| 00:28.51 | starseeker | clears out his BRL-CAD checkout... |
| 00:37.30 | maths22 | brlcad: I don't use command line editors enough to have bothered learning them |
| 00:37.36 | maths22 | Yes... I know I should |
| 00:37.51 | maths22 | But nano is so user-friendly |
| 00:37.59 | maths22 | I was using pico, but it doesn't have syntax hightlighting |
| 01:05.02 | Stragus | uses some weird Motif-based editor that hasn't been updated in 10 years |
| 01:05.22 | Stragus | Although I made various changes in the source for the version I use for myself |
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| 02:10.04 | Notify | refinement, but seems to be working. |
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| 02:20.53 | starseeker | Stragus: nedit? |
| 02:23.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63430 brlcad/branches/qtged/src/qbrlcad/cadtreemodel.cxx: This needs to be checked, but I'm guessing the problem case is actually when aircode and region_id are set, rather than the region flag itself? |
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| 04:13.00 | brlcad | maths22: emacs isn't exactly a command line editor, heh |
| 04:14.11 | brlcad | but yeah, I'd strongly recommend you learn one dev envrionment in detail, and of course recommend emacs for a long list of reasons |
| 04:14.25 | brlcad | but really the trick is learning it in detail and becoming uber efficient with it |
| 04:15.38 | maths22 | I agree that learning such a thing would be useful. |
| 04:15.57 | brlcad | sublime, atom, emacs, all good choices |
| 04:16.12 | maths22 | By the way, there will be one restriction on duplicating tasks |
| 04:16.31 | maths22 | The duplicates cannot have their titles changed, as that would mess up the numbering |
| 04:16.46 | maths22 | Actually, once duplicates are made, the master should not be able to have its title changed |
| 04:17.58 | brlcad | yeah, that's understandable |
| 04:18.19 | brlcad | btw, if you decide to take the plunge, I found this useful: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/refcards/pdf/refcard.pdf |
| 04:19.02 | brlcad | granted a rather different version back when I learned .. :) |
| 04:19.05 | maths22 | I could mirror the title, but I think that would cause more problems |
| 04:19.22 | maths22 | more in users minds than in the app, but usability is important |
| 04:22.53 | brlcad | fwiw, here's the melange form: http://ibin.co/1hAl212o59D5 |
| 04:27.14 | maths22 | Thanks |
| 04:27.34 | brlcad | some annoyances there are that you have to fill out every field repeatedly, I found myself very freuqently using the browser back-arrow, changing the title and description a little, and submitting; just to avoid having to set the type, tags, time, and, mentor every single task |
| 04:27.43 | maths22 | thanks - I can see that one as a mentor (probably because you would need to approve it any ways) |
| 04:27.57 | brlcad | ah, good |
| 04:28.14 | maths22 | I can make 2 copy functions-one that makes literal duplicates and one that pre-fills the edit form |
| 04:28.18 | brlcad | so yeah, you can add some and see how it gets really tedius |
| 04:29.06 | brlcad | default round-robin mentor assignment would be useful |
| 04:30.24 | maths22 | OK-I will add a table for a list of mentors soon |
| 04:30.39 | maths22 | Do you want the 2 types of copy? |
| 04:30.50 | brlcad | possible to pull that list from melange? |
| 04:31.22 | brlcad | usernames are listed on https://www.google-melange.com/gci/dashboard/google/gci2014#all_orgs_mentors |
| 04:33.16 | brlcad | course if you can pull that csv you could pull the task list csv too... :) |
| 04:34.34 | maths22 | Can't pull dynamically-That page is behing a login |
| 04:36.44 | brlcad | surely cakehttps://github.com/corefactor/CakePHP-Oauth-Plugin |
| 04:36.58 | brlcad | surely indeed |
| 04:37.21 | brlcad | and a snippet that shows how: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8741501/cakephp-oauth-with-google :) |
| 04:37.55 | maths22 | I am not talking about authenticating into my app |
| 04:38.17 | maths22 | I am saying that the app cannot pull that page without authentiation |
| 04:38.34 | brlcad | yes.. |
| 04:38.39 | maths22 | and the authentication would be logging into google |
| 04:38.49 | maths22 | Which can only happen on the client side |
| 04:39.17 | brlcad | oauth authenticates with google, once you do that youll have auth tokens and can get at the dashboard |
| 04:39.58 | maths22 | I have auth tokesn for my app |
| 04:40.20 | maths22 | That would allow me to make each google user a user in my app |
| 04:40.39 | maths22 | That does not allow me to make arbitrary reqeuests to other google apps using their credentials |
| 04:44.12 | brlcad | I get what you're saying, but I recall there being a means to basically do that (at least with google login apps), basically feeding them the cookie they expect |
| 04:44.28 | brlcad | "basically" |
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| 04:45.52 | brlcad | heh, and here's a gsoc project to try and prevent it: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/public/google/gsoc2014/anuroopkuppam/5629499534213120 |
| 04:47.39 | maths22 | That also would add significant latency to the app. |
| 04:49.54 | maths22 | Take a look at the clone button |
| 04:50.24 | brlcad | totally worth it if it just talked to melange ... otherwise that latency still exists, it's just on the mentors/admins clicking on and waiting on melange, copy-pasting data periodically back and forth |
| 04:54.24 | maths22 | I see what you are saying. If I can find a way to easily do it, I will. |
| 04:57.52 | brlcad | hm, just tried cloning something and it didn't seem to work |
| 04:58.36 | brlcad | looks like import messed up on at least one of them too, sort by title, the "Alex" task |
| 04:59.04 | maths22 | I see that task |
| 04:59.16 | maths22 | What did you try to clone? |
| 04:59.22 | maths22 | Also, the copy button should work |
| 05:00.55 | brlcad | tried to clone promo video #2 |
| 05:01.01 | maths22 | try again |
| 05:01.10 | brlcad | and #1 |
| 05:01.13 | maths22 | It may have happened when I was in the middle of updating the file ore something like that |
| 05:01.33 | brlcad | just did, still no |
| 05:02.05 | brlcad | tried missing docs too |
| 05:02.07 | maths22 | I see why that is failing |
| 05:02.15 | maths22 | CHeck if copy works, and I will fix that |
| 05:05.08 | brlcad | yes, worked |
| 05:05.24 | brlcad | few usability suggestions |
| 05:07.04 | brlcad | unless it's going to seriously make it sluggish, I'd rather see all tasks so I can search the page to jump to tasks instead of hunting where it's on page 9 of 16 or 11 or 13 or 12, ah, there it is... |
| 05:07.33 | maths22 | OK-I will remove the paginator |
| 05:07.34 | brlcad | no point in seeing the tags in the summary unless I can filter on them, just clutter |
| 05:07.48 | maths22 | THe nice thing about cake is that these sorts of changes are fairly easy |
| 05:08.28 | brlcad | length seems inconsistent ... might be mixing hours and days |
| 05:08.59 | maths22 | That is an import artifact |
| 05:09.19 | maths22 | I manually converted stuff, and was not that careful about it, as I was just trying to create usable test data |
| 05:10.26 | brlcad | suggest eliminating view and edit button, make selecting the titel go to that task ideally to an edit mode with a button to preview the rendered state or display it side-by-side or something so it's not a separate thing |
| 05:10.42 | brlcad | okay, makes sense |
| 05:11.57 | brlcad | might as well display your unique ID if delete is going to reference it, and it helps for talking about them |
| 05:12.15 | maths22 | Everything is now on one page |
| 05:13.23 | brlcad | a filtering option would be nice, that part does work well on melange, though it is very laggy |
| 05:13.36 | maths22 | I will see about filtering |
| 05:13.45 | maths22 | There are some jquery table plugins that might help |
| 05:14.05 | brlcad | huh, I still get pages |
| 05:14.22 | maths22 | Now you shouldn't |
| 05:14.24 | maths22 | saving helps |
| 05:14.30 | maths22 | also, the id links to the edit page |
| 05:14.32 | brlcad | ah, yes |
| 05:15.33 | brlcad | need a better moniker of clone vs copy if other orgs use this, unclear which is which |
| 05:16.19 | maths22 | Yep |
| 05:16.44 | brlcad | especially considering the clone button asks how many copies ;) |
| 05:17.20 | maths22 | This is true |
| 05:17.29 | maths22 | Do you have any ideas? |
| 05:19.50 | brlcad | could merge them, just one button |
| 05:20.06 | maths22 | How would you choose which you want? |
| 05:20.09 | maths22 | I like the idea |
| 05:22.22 | brlcad | Clone -> How many defaulting to 1 -> clicking okay taking you to the edit page where the info is all filled in and the title includes #next |
| 05:23.13 | brlcad | if they enter > 1, it creates the N copies like you have it now |
| 05:23.52 | maths22 | OK |
| 05:27.33 | brlcad | something odd with the sorting (try title sort, look at first two) |
| 05:30.20 | brlcad | feels like the task title should be selectable -- it is the locus of attention when searching |
| 05:31.29 | brlcad | always wanted to try cakephp out but never had a reason .. this is pretty impressive progress for one day |
| 05:31.37 | brlcad | good salespitch ;) |
| 05:36.47 | maths22 | Will make the title clickable too. |
| 05:37.02 | brlcad | have you played at all with cappuccino? that's another I've been interested in |
| 05:37.05 | maths22 | The title sorting issue is in the data-I'm guessing there are some hidden characters |
| 05:37.12 | maths22 | I have not looked at or heard of cappuccino |
| 05:37.21 | brlcad | http://www.cappuccino-project.org |
| 05:37.36 | brlcad | different style, more about building web GUIs |
| 05:38.17 | maths22 | I will have to take a look later |
| 05:43.20 | brlcad | there's a space before the word Design in that one title |
| 05:43.29 | maths22 | OK |
| 05:43.32 | brlcad | easily found and fixed |
| 05:43.34 | maths22 | That would do it |
| 05:43.35 | maths22 | Yep |
| 05:43.45 | maths22 | I just hadn't bothered looking |
| 05:54.35 | maths22 | if you copy once, should the title be mutable |
| 05:57.55 | maths22 | I also have the choice logic working |
| 05:58.03 | maths22 | 1=let you edit |
| 05:58.10 | maths22 | many = make a bunch |
| 06:12.06 | brlcad | yeah, mutable is fine, even if there are >1 copies |
| 06:12.40 | brlcad | just changing that title is going to mess with future cloning |
| 06:13.25 | brlcad | I might want to make 10 copies, and then tweak all 10 in some small way |
| 06:13.37 | brlcad | either in the title or in the description |
| 06:14.31 | brlcad | another common pattern is creating follow-on tasks, but I don't think there's a usability improvement possibility there without live bidirectional syncing because you want the melange url embedded in the description |
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| 13:55.39 | ``Erik | heh, ronja mentioned in a hn comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8606345 |
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| 15:25.37 | brlcad | mm, lots of interesting news bits on HN today |
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| 15:31.39 | brlcad | nifty: http://tanzer.io |
| 15:31.53 | brlcad | tcl web server |
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| 16:30.02 | ``Erik | hn is the new slashdot, though it's already going the way of slashdot... *cough* |
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| 17:33.56 | starseeker | ``Erik: so have you develped the successer to hn yet? :-P |
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| 18:19.59 | brlcad | neat: http://setosa.io/ev/ |
| 18:20.20 | brlcad | especially the markov chain code you can modify |
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| 18:52.29 | deepak_ | brlcad: Hi |
| 18:55.06 | brlcad | n_reed: starseeker: good read regarding recent discussion about std::string performance: http://www.drdobbs.com/cpp/c-string-performance/184405453 |
| 18:57.43 | brlcad | would be interesting to see where bu_vls compares, but it's conceptually in the middle minimizing heap activity |
| 18:59.00 | brlcad | his results were an optimized approach was 35x faster than std::string for single threaded and a whooping 2500x faster for a 10-thread multithreaded comparison (avoids locking entirely) |
| 19:22.11 | starseeker | brlcad: interesting. What's the license? |
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| 19:32.15 | brlcad | starseeker: it's just code snippets to teach/test, not a library to be used .. you apply the techniques to ones own code |
| 19:33.49 | brlcad | more just food for thought, as with any stats .. lots of caveats and gotchas that undboutedly affect this |
| 19:35.34 | brlcad | different libc's will undoubtedly show hugely different results, wouldn't be surprised if a modern gcc /clang libc weren't faster now (article is 10 years ago) |
| 19:37.32 | deepak_ | I'm trying to work with OGV. After cloning it from the BRL-CAD repo I don't find any instructions in ReadME file to install and use it. Please guide me with the steps to do the same. |
| 19:40.55 | brlcad | deepak_: I don't know the installation steps either, did you try to just put it on a server and see if it loads? |
| 19:41.42 | brlcad | deepak_: you should ask on the mailing list, there are a couple people that have it set up successfully ... you should write a README or INSTALL file ;) |
| 19:41.52 | brlcad | great patch submission ;) |
| 19:44.36 | deepak_ | brlcad: Okay, I'm proceeding and try to install it on my server. If something went wrong I'll be reporting on our mailing list :). |
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| 20:06.01 | deepak_ | brlcad: One thing more, I have read certain html files of OGV and I found that at some places coding standard are violated eg: after <div> next <div> is represented by the space of 2 instead of 4. Is it the violation of coding standard? I couldn't find this in hacking file. |
| 20:06.02 | brlcad | deepak_: okie dokie |
| 20:06.59 | brlcad | deepak_: we don't yet have published coding standards for web apps, but it's more important that it be consistent within that file |
| 20:14.51 | deepak_ | brlcad: Okay :D. |
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| 20:36.32 | brlcad | that list isn't quite accurate .. many/most of those are also in mged |
| 20:36.49 | brlcad | either as built-in or tclscript commands, just not in the callback table list |
| 20:37.40 | brlcad | cd and pwd are tcl system commands |
| 20:42.28 | brlcad | maths22: this is the form I set up last year: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1l5berjknWtj29zkHJ0q8jLUzPMBYCWYfkv97qAGirZI/viewform |
| 20:43.09 | brlcad | by breaking up the description into four separate fields, consistent formatting can be applied |
| 20:43.13 | brlcad | auto-applied |
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| 21:10.54 | starseeker | brlcad: yeah, figured |
| 21:11.20 | starseeker | mostly was trying to get a sense of how many commands were/are "wired" into the GUI in various ways |
| 21:12.09 | starseeker | hasn't even looked at Tcl yet - dealing in straight libged argc/argv calls for the moment to avoid introducing complexities |
| 21:13.41 | maths22 | brlcad: thanks |
| 21:13.49 | starseeker | really, if we added a uniform ability to handle matching characters (ls name*, for example) at the libged level things would just about work until the user wants to actually write tcl scripts... |
| 21:14.02 | maths22 | I can make a custom add view (something like tasks/add-brlcad) |
| 21:14.08 | maths22 | taht would have these sors of reqtures |
| 21:37.41 | brlcad | starseeker: yep, globbing and such should definitely happen lower-level imo too |
| 21:57.50 | starseeker | brlcad: do we still have that list of missing man pages? I'm thinking for GCI tasks we might have them stub in basic pages (command name, maybe args, and hook it into the build) to get some templates set up, if that still needs doing... |
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