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| 01:06.50 | hcurtis | brlcad: Checking in |
| 01:11.13 | clock | ``Erik, actually when we are at this topic |
| 01:11.37 | clock | I realized (in my opinion) the best way to understand how the brain and mind works |
| 01:11.42 | clock | is to surprise surprise |
| 01:11.45 | clock | bnuild your own brain |
| 01:12.44 | clock | but the step #1 is not C compiler |
| 01:13.47 | clock | step #1 is call an electrician and ask him to install 60 amp circuit breakers for your home and draw appropriate wires |
| 01:13.53 | clock | step #2 is buy 130 PCs |
| 01:13.57 | clock | Step #3 is then the C compiler |
| 01:14.04 | hcurtis | brlcad: You might already be aware of my difficulties with getting my program using bu.h to locate all of the header files it needs. Until we talk about possible solutions, I’ll just work on coming up with code that solves the fast4-g issue. |
| 01:14.05 | clock | then you can do visual cortex in real time |
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| 08:11.41 | sofat | hello sir i am php developer |
| 08:12.46 | sofat | i want to start the work with you |
| 08:12.58 | sofat | please guide me sir . |
| 08:14.21 | sofat | i wish to work for brlcad please tell me there is any opportunity for php developer. |
| 08:16.22 | teepee | looking at the wiki I'd guess there's a good chance for that |
| 08:17.34 | sofat | can you give the url of that page then i will try |
| 08:17.42 | sofat | thank you |
| 08:18.14 | teepee | i was looking at the list of GSoC projects. that's already running, but maybe some of the tasks are not taken (http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas) |
| 08:19.20 | teepee | searching through the wiki might turn up other possibilities too |
| 08:20.06 | teepee | otherwise, I'd suggest to hang around a bit (or come back at a later time) it's often a bit more busy here when the sun reaches the US timezones ;) |
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| 09:12.54 | albertcoder | Hello! I have been working on Materials Database under GSoC. I have deployed the previous code on my college server and made it work to some extent after applying a couple of patches. I have been unable to make out the difference between "id" and "materialID" in the database. |
| 09:14.25 | archivist | a database can have its own row ID unrelated to a public ID |
| 09:14.51 | albertcoder | "uid" specifies user id, "materialID" specifies material id, but what does "id" stand for? |
| 09:15.26 | archivist | uid often refers to unique id |
| 09:16.44 | albertcoder | does uid refer to only a user or can it refer a material too? |
| 09:17.05 | archivist | a plane id can just be an id of that row, it depends |
| 09:17.10 | archivist | plain |
| 09:18.02 | albertcoder | Okay that means it's a kind of serial number, is it? |
| 09:18.09 | archivist | can be |
| 09:18.34 | archivist | so a user id could be the person who added it |
| 09:19.25 | albertcoder | and that will be denoted by uid, right? |
| 09:19.57 | archivist | I dont know that database/table and its use |
| 09:20.49 | albertcoder | Okay, I will try applying my senses a bit more to it. Thanks BTW :) |
| 09:21.11 | archivist | what I am saying is be careful with assumptions |
| 09:21.48 | albertcoder | Yes definitely! |
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| 09:27.26 | fenn | premature abbreviation |
| 09:28.38 | albertcoder | archivist, Okay I think I have come to understand the difference. :P That's the concept of primary and foreign key. |
| 09:29.36 | archivist | some get religious about key naming :) |
| 09:30.10 | albertcoder | haha yes, really :) |
| 09:30.37 | fenn | databases are all inside out from normal thought so you actually do need to follow the religious practices to ensure it makes sense |
| 09:32.07 | fenn | albertcoder: i am surprised at the sheer number of GSoC contributors to this project, is there a reason it stands out as particularly appealing? |
| 09:32.39 | fenn | (i say this as someone who has attempted to build a materials database) |
| 09:32.49 | fenn | er, by "this project" i mean brl-cad |
| 09:34.35 | albertcoder | fenn, I am wondering too why it appeals that much. :P Feeling like I have too many proficient competitors. :) |
| 09:36.27 | albertcoder | brlcad, I wished to ask about the patches I had submitted. :) |
| 09:37.42 | albertcoder | To my uttermost surprise, one patch even claimed of a mistake in the BRL-CAD HACKING file. |
| 09:50.53 | fenn | is this all that exists of the current web interface and database schema? http://brlcad.org/design/material.tar.gz |
| 09:51.18 | fenn | not that db.sql is really a proper schema |
| 09:51.56 | fenn | if that's all there is, may i recommend avoiding php completely and starting from scratch |
| 09:54.25 | albertcoder | Yes, I got the same tarball when asking for a reference point. |
| 09:54.54 | fenn | there are many off the shelf web to database frameworks designed for this sort of task, such as django or ruby on rails |
| 09:56.43 | albertcoder | But sadly I haven't worked on django or ruby on rails either. I would have to stick to PHP. |
| 09:57.09 | archivist | I would not touch those two frameworks with a bargepole |
| 09:57.48 | fenn | ok maybe it's overkill, i'm not particularly fond of sql databases in the first place but that seems to be what the thinking is around this project |
| 09:58.43 | fenn | but really anything is better than php |
| 09:58.55 | archivist | sql is right for relational data |
| 10:00.20 | albertcoder | fenn, Being a novice, right now I wish to save as much time as I can rather than straying around learning new tools/frameworks. Anyway I comply to your thoughts. |
| 10:22.11 | fenn | .tell albertcoder to answer your original question about ids, it's set up as multiple tables (density, melting point, etc.) so that each value can have an associated timestamp, and presumably also a user id to keep track of who is adding what. the materialID is the only thing that really resembles what you would consider a serial number for each material; the other "id" fields are more like |
| 10:22.17 | fenn | pointers to a data structure (this is what i mean by saying databases are inside out) |
| 10:22.21 | fenn | blah |
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| 10:30.51 | fenn | memoserv to the rescue |
| 10:44.46 | fenn | "A good carpenter can drive in a nail with either a rock or a hammer, but how many carpenters do you see bashing stuff with rocks? Part of what makes a good developer is the ability to choose the tools that work best." |
| 10:57.18 | mihaineacsu_bbl | fenn: I agree. Those frameworks are better suited (and more fun) and also easy to pickup. |
| 10:58.10 | fenn | more importantly, other people can use the code you write later on |
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| 12:07.57 | hcurtis | brlcad: Here is an update. Last night, I re-read the GSoC checklist to identify the items on it that I still need to get done. Also, I re-read and analyzed fast4-g and worked on my plan to remedy the problems with it. I'd like to talk with you soon. |
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| 13:21.33 | clock | is there also a Google Winter of Code? |
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| 13:21.53 | mihaineacsu_ | hehe, no |
| 13:23.01 | mihaineacsu_ | maybe there would be one if students had a winter break :) |
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| 13:33.44 | teepee | mihaineacsu_: australians have probably (looking from US winter ;) |
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| 13:59.04 | clock | wow so many commits |
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| 22:08.45 | hcurtis | Update for Sean and whoever else that might be interested: I have continued to analyze fast4-g.c and research its elements that are unfamiliar to me. It is now making a lot more sense than it did before. However, I still need to figure out the best way to make the program expand the container it already has instead of creating a new container and copying things into it. |
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