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| 01:46.13 | brlcad | maths22: so is the svn module still needed then? |
| 01:46.31 | brlcad | or is that your staging ground for the live site? |
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| 02:05.31 | maths22 | It should not be needed |
| 02:05.40 | maths22 | Do you know why php exec would not work on the server? |
| 02:41.49 | brlcad | maths22: security restrictions |
| 02:55.15 | maths22 | Would there be any way for it to be enabled either for a special subdomain or directory? |
| 02:55.22 | maths22 | git webhooks |
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| 08:42.17 | pandrei | Hello |
| 08:43.10 | pandrei | is anyone working on this project for gsoc : Object-oriented interfaces ? |
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| 09:15.02 | d_rossberg | pandrei: at the moment nobody is working on any gsoc project ;) so, you are interested in the object-oriented interface and would like to work on it? |
| 09:15.13 | pandrei | yes |
| 09:15.25 | pandrei | I have a few(perhaps irrelevant) questions |
| 09:15.52 | pandrei | do I still have commit access? would it be a good idea to submit a few patches related to that part of the codebase |
| 09:16.00 | pandrei | before still writting the proposal |
| 09:16.43 | pandrei | I just co and built brlcad a few moments ago |
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| 09:31.37 | d_rossberg | pandrei: you probably still have commit access, but nevertheless it would be a good idea to submit a patch first |
| 09:32.24 | d_rossberg | did you already compiled the core interface? |
| 09:33.14 | pandrei | I'm not sure, I compiled brlcad |
| 09:33.28 | pandrei | I don't know if it's included or it's in a different repo |
| 09:34.04 | d_rossberg | that's not enough, you need to check out the rt^3 branch first (parallel to brlcad) |
| 09:34.23 | d_rossberg | i.e. rt^3/trunc |
| 09:42.01 | pandrei | ok, I got that branch now |
| 09:42.15 | pandrei | and tried to run cmake ../rt3, it complains it cannot find brlcad |
| 09:42.22 | pandrei | (it is installed in /usr/brlcad) |
| 09:43.03 | pandrei | is it looking for the brlcad trunc, and not the binaries? |
| 09:48.53 | d_rossberg | it needs both: the trunc and the binaries |
| 09:51.18 | pandrei | it asks me to set BRLCAD_BASE_DIR |
| 09:52.10 | pandrei | I should change it in cmake/FindBRLCAD.cmake I assume |
| 09:58.17 | d_rossberg | that's odd, i can't find a BRLCAD_BASE_DIR here and i have no problem with the cmake configuration |
| 09:58.45 | d_rossberg | maybe it's because i've checked out brlcad and rt^3 side-by-side? |
| 09:59.04 | pandrei | I have them on the same dir level, aswell |
| 09:59.44 | pandrei | I have the brlcad(trunc), brlcad-build, rt3 and rt3build on same level |
| 10:00.15 | pandrei | and the relevant binaries are at /usr/brlcad/dev-7.24.1 |
| 10:05.39 | d_rossberg | this should be ok, did you tried the cmake gui? |
| 10:09.33 | pandrei | I didn't know cmake has a gui |
| 10:12.12 | d_rossberg | i think it's called cmake-gui |
| 10:13.58 | d_rossberg | looking again at the cmake files it looks like the brl-cad source trunk isn't necessary |
| 10:14.59 | d_rossberg | the brlcad-config is important (BRLCAD_CONFIGEXE cmake variable) |
| 10:15.48 | d_rossberg | is /usr/brlcad/dev-7.24.1/bin in your path variable? |
| 10:16.23 | pandrei | nope |
| 10:16.33 | pandrei | you're right, that might be one of the issues |
| 10:17.17 | pandrei | haha, now it worked |
| 10:17.47 | pandrei | thanks a lot ! |
| 10:18.36 | d_rossberg | ok, in the build directory type "make coreinterface" |
| 10:19.14 | d_rossberg | you'll run into an error there, maybe a chance for a first patch |
| 10:19.35 | pandrei | yes, the BU_UNSETJUMP problem |
| 10:19.54 | pandrei | well, as you said, it's a great starting point |
| 10:19.55 | pandrei | thanks! |
| 10:20.31 | d_rossberg | ? i got another error, however |
| 10:21.28 | d_rossberg | there is a small example program in rt^3/tests/coreInterface using this c++ interface |
| 10:34.23 | pandrei | it's weird that I get 'was not declared in this scope' for all BU_UNSETJUMP occurences |
| 10:34.35 | pandrei | SET/UNSET even |
| 10:40.26 | pandrei | those are defined in include/bu/parallel.h |
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| 11:14.52 | khmarehman | Hello Everyone |
| 11:18.17 | khmarehman | I am Abdur Rehman from Pakistan and I am Mechatronics Engineer |
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| 11:50.32 | javampire | kanzure: Hi Bryan, I added one more commit to the pull request: https://github.com/ncsaba/python-brlcad/commit/819699f735bb2b82cf6ccc9b23d679c6f59f4985 |
| 11:51.18 | javampire | it is about caching the _bindings directory between re-installs, configurable from the ~/.python-brlcad.cfg file |
| 11:52.52 | javampire | the reason is that when I'm not explicitly working on the bindings install code, I want only to reinstall the higher level python code, which takes <1 second versus the 10+ seconds it takes to process the bindings |
| 11:53.09 | javampire | if I repeat that often enough, it becomes annoying... |
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| 13:03.47 | d_rossberg | pandrei: ... as i've said: i got another error, trying to find out what's wrong ... |
| 13:05.16 | pandrei | I'll try to rm everything and pull them again, to see if this works. However, should I have ran make in rt^3 before make coreinterface? |
| 13:45.31 | d_rossberg | i think i got the cause for the BU_UNSETJUMP issue ... and no, "make" doesn't work, i would say |
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| 14:32.50 | pandrei | d_rossberg: sorry, d/c ed |
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| 14:52.50 | d_rossberg | pandrei: you sould update your rt^3 copy |
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| 15:04.35 | pandrei | d_rossberg : yes, that did it, thanks! |
| 15:04.44 | pandrei | however, make coreinterface succesfully compiles now |
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| 17:19.27 | pandrei | so, how should I proceed next, since you apparently fixed that error for me ? |
| 17:45.16 | richa | Isn't BRL-CAD's wiki based on mediawiki engine? |
| 17:45.38 | richa | Just wondering because I couldn't see a Powered by mediawiki image at the bottom |
| 17:47.00 | kanzure | javampire: why is it part of the same pull request? what about making a different branch so that i can consider it separately from the other work.. |
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| 18:02.24 | ``Erik | https://github.com/ValveSoftware/ToGL (d3d->opengl bridge from valve) |
| 18:11.12 | richa | Where will I get the source code for BRL-CAD's wiki? |
| 18:13.08 | pandrei | richa : svn co https://svn.code.sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
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| 19:56.22 | brlcad | richa: for the wiki? |
| 19:56.41 | brlcad | it's a current mediawiki installation |
| 19:57.00 | brlcad | pandrei: that's our source code to BRL-CAD, not for our wiki |
| 19:57.18 | pandrei | oh, sorry |
| 19:57.20 | brlcad | np |
| 19:57.26 | richa | brlcad: Isn't it http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/HEAD/tree/web/trunk/htdocs/ |
| 19:58.03 | brlcad | richa: yeah, it's there but not for much longer -- just moved to github yesterday |
| 19:58.10 | brlcad | see the checklist, there's a link there |
| 19:58.21 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code/Checklist |
| 19:59.07 | brlcad | if you're developing a module for it, a basic mediawiki download/install should be suitable |
| 19:59.15 | pandrei | brlcad: you plan to move to github other modules aswell? |
| 19:59.38 | brlcad | maths22: possible, sure, but would have to investigate the implications |
| 19:59.51 | richa | Why am I getting internal server error with http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/HEAD/tree/web/trunk/htdocs/ |
| 20:00.00 | brlcad | some of the features disabled are for a reason (that specific one, I'm not sure about) |
| 20:00.15 | richa | I am not able to run it locally |
| 20:00.56 | brlcad | richa: why not? |
| 20:01.58 | brlcad | richa: i don't get an internal error with that url, so not sure -- are you logged in or trying to check out that url? |
| 20:02.11 | brlcad | pandrei: I just realized who you are :) |
| 20:02.36 | pandrei | I forgot to change my nick, I just realized that |
| 20:02.56 | richa | brlcad: I mean I am not able to set up that code locally |
| 20:04.23 | richa | Does it require some configuration files to be set up first? |
| 20:04.34 | brlcad | richa: that code refers to configuration files and a database that you almost certainly do not have |
| 20:04.37 | brlcad | or know about |
| 20:05.03 | brlcad | e.g., it'd be pretty terrible to check in our database information and passwords |
| 20:05.28 | brlcad | i'm confused as to what you're doing though |
| 20:06.08 | richa | brlcad: Just trying to set up BRL-CAD's wiki locally |
| 20:06.56 | brlcad | richa: you can't :) |
| 20:07.04 | richa | brlcad: ohh |
| 20:07.23 | brlcad | at least not in any meaningful sense |
| 20:07.31 | brlcad | you need the database |
| 20:08.09 | richa | Then for http://brlcad.org/wiki/Synchronize_Wiki_with_Docbook a standard mediawiki install would be fine, right? |
| 20:08.12 | brlcad | we'll need to automate a database dump some place for you to be able to do that |
| 20:08.20 | brlcad | yeah, perfectly fine |
| 20:08.30 | richa | ok |
| 20:08.46 | brlcad | you'll more need to download the sources to brl-cad, compile, and install those |
| 20:08.51 | brlcad | so you have access to the docs |
| 20:09.09 | brlcad | docbook lives in the svn url pandrei gave you |
| 20:09.33 | richa | yeah, I have the docs |
| 20:09.48 | brlcad | richa: remember that is only the starting point for an idea -- it's ultimately YOUR project that you're proposing |
| 20:10.01 | brlcad | so think about what you want to accomplish, talk to us about that |
| 20:10.13 | richa | yeah, sure. |
| 20:10.24 | richa | I was just trying out pandoc |
| 20:10.46 | brlcad | do you have a grasp of our current conundrum? |
| 20:10.56 | brlcad | hasn't read the wiki/Sync... page yet |
| 20:11.04 | pandrei | brlcad: poke me when you've got a bit of time to talk about the interface project |
| 20:11.39 | pandrei | this one : Object-oriented C++ Geometry API |
| 20:12.42 | brlcad | pokes pandrei |
| 20:12.46 | pandrei | oh |
| 20:12.49 | pandrei | that's fast |
| 20:13.32 | brlcad | you've learned some C++ since two years ago? |
| 20:13.43 | richa | While converting docbook to mediawiki syntax, pandoc misses out some markups |
| 20:13.43 | brlcad | or knew some then |
| 20:13.59 | brlcad | richa: yep |
| 20:14.08 | pandrei | I've started using it a few months ago |
| 20:14.09 | richa | So, its not worth to use it |
| 20:14.17 | brlcad | richa: if it were THAT easy, we would have already done it ;) |
| 20:14.24 | pandrei | switched from java |
| 20:14.59 | brlcad | richa: well, it's certainly a possibility to extend pandoc too, or inspect our unsupported markup to see if it's really required |
| 20:16.05 | brlcad | don't get "too" myopic on docbook itself |
| 20:16.29 | brlcad | there are other possibilities too like converting docbook to another format that might more directly round-trip translate to mediawiki |
| 20:16.46 | brlcad | there are myriad interested involved here |
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| 20:17.04 | brlcad | pandrei: good lad |
| 20:17.20 | pandrei | haha |
| 20:18.50 | richa | brlcad: Designing parser functions? |
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| 20:24.40 | pandrei | brlcad : related to that project, I was thinking a reasonable proposal would include most(if not all) class interfaces for the proposed primitives |
| 20:24.49 | pandrei | and some sort of order/logic in which to be implemented |
| 20:30.58 | brlcad | richa: parser functions or chaining together multiple tools, or extending an existing tool like pandoc or mediawiki for different formats, etc |
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| 20:31.32 | brlcad | pandrei: have you looked at how far rossberg has gotten yet? |
| 20:31.37 | brlcad | he has several primitives already implemented |
| 20:31.41 | pandrei | yes |
| 20:31.50 | brlcad | no way you'd get all of them done during gsoc .. I think :) |
| 20:31.59 | brlcad | some of the few remaining are monsters in comparison |
| 20:32.09 | pandrei | I don't think I understood you |
| 20:32.19 | brlcad | and some beg for changes in librt, not just wrapping what we have |
| 20:32.36 | pandrei | I haven't looked in detail in each file, but aren't those that already exist fully implemented |
| 20:32.53 | brlcad | pandrei: implementing a class interface for ALL of brl-cad's primitives .. even just the ones remaining .. is a lot of work |
| 20:33.08 | brlcad | you're wrapping the class, but you have to define the interface |
| 20:33.31 | brlcad | define an interface for creating a DSP .. not so simple |
| 20:33.40 | brlcad | or worse, NURBS |
| 20:33.58 | brlcad | i could be wrong |
| 20:34.01 | richa | brlcad: I am still confused with one thing, when a user will choose the edit option he will get wiki markups |
| 20:34.02 | brlcad | prove me wrong :) |
| 20:34.19 | brlcad | richa: he will? |
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| 20:34.26 | richa | brlcad: Where will he be provided with the XML? |
| 20:35.10 | brlcad | richa: will he? |
| 20:35.27 | pandrei | brlcad: I think I first have to get a good grasp of what the project really is, I think it's not what I assumed. |
| 20:35.39 | brlcad | richa: i'm not trying to be obtuse .. but your questions assume a particular solution, and there is no solution defined ;) |
| 20:35.43 | pandrei | by class interfaces I meant "This is how the rest of the primitives will be looking" |
| 20:36.44 | richa | brlcad: I will try to figure it out |
| 20:37.23 | brlcad | richa: the edit option could kick into wiki markup, xml, asciidoc, markdown, markdown+, ... |
| 20:38.23 | brlcad | there's motivation in our documentation to support at least two markup formats -- we need docbook for our bigger complicated docs |
| 20:38.45 | brlcad | we could benefit from a lighter-weight markup for smaller texts |
| 20:39.36 | brlcad | there are tools that can be run on the backend to prepare / process our docs into other formats, things that can be done before the data gets to mediawiki |
| 20:39.37 | maths22 | brlcad: only one script would need it to call git and rsync |
| 20:40.12 | brlcad | or maybe mediawiki looks at the docbook xml directly, and just presents it in an edit dialog as a media type (like the pdf or svg plugins) |
| 20:41.43 | brlcad | maths22: it's a matter of how to turn on that exec without enabling it for the entire server .. imagine some unpatched web app on one of the dozens of sites hosted on the server having some vulnerability that does unnoticed/unpatched whereby that can call exec and do whatever they want on the system |
| 20:42.17 | brlcad | that's a concern, because we cannot reasonably police or keep all potential web content up-to-date all the time for every possibile vulnerability that comes out |
| 20:43.32 | brlcad | it's also a DoS attack vector .. simple request keeps the machine busy |
| 20:43.36 | brlcad | maths22: what you mention sounds like something that could run as a cron job too .. why does it need to be exec'd by someone outside the server? |
| 20:44.08 | brlcad | could have the web interface drop a file, and a cron job watch for that file to do the git+rsync/whatever |
| 20:44.38 | maths22 | I found a version that does that... I'll tell you more later |
| 20:44.56 | brlcad | k |
| 20:58.11 | starseeker | richa: it might be worth seeing if Beacon does anything useful: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocBook_Editor_Documentation |
| 20:58.46 | starseeker | would probably be higer profile if it did, but definitely something to check out |
| 20:59.06 | pandrei | brlcad: I'm currently looking at the Ellipsoid class |
| 20:59.08 | starseeker | maybe even worth finishing it to do a "direct edit" of the DocBook srcs |
| 20:59.15 | pandrei | and from what I see, it mostly contains geometrical handling functions |
| 21:03.30 | brlcad | pandrei: ellipsoid is probabaly the easiest object possible, just so you know |
| 21:03.42 | pandrei | haha, I picked it randomly |
| 21:04.15 | brlcad | pandrei: do you remember the mged 'in' commands at all? |
| 21:04.41 | pandrei | in dsp2.s dsp f Ex2.dsp 152 150 0 ad 1 0.005 |
| 21:04.44 | pandrei | like this one? |
| 21:04.47 | brlcad | right |
| 21:04.55 | pandrei | that creates a dsp object |
| 21:04.57 | brlcad | that's basically an object interface |
| 21:05.01 | brlcad | every primitive is different |
| 21:05.22 | brlcad | you can take any one of those and turn them into a C++ constructor easily enough |
| 21:05.27 | brlcad | ...when they exist ;) |
| 21:05.37 | pandrei | aah, I think I understand now |
| 21:05.45 | brlcad | we have several primitives that are too complicated to be described by the 'in' command |
| 21:06.04 | brlcad | like defining a polygonal mesh (bot) |
| 21:06.27 | brlcad | which daniel may have already implemented .. if so a good example of something more complex |
| 21:06.41 | richa | starseeker: Yeah, I saw it partially. Is http://beaconeditor.org/ down currently or they do not have a live demo right now? |
| 21:06.41 | pandrei | so basically the 'interface' is something to hide the implementation details and provide a unique api for object handling |
| 21:06.54 | pandrei | like libvirt, if you know of it |
| 21:07.32 | brlcad | don't |
| 21:07.46 | brlcad | waves to ejno |
| 21:08.23 | pandrei | the remaining primitives are those that cannot be adapted to the interface?\ |
| 21:08.24 | ejno | hello brlcad |
| 21:15.55 | brlcad | pandrei: no |
| 21:16.03 | brlcad | which interface are you talking about? |
| 21:16.25 | brlcad | for both the C++ and 'in' interface, the ones remaining are simply "harder" |
| 21:18.25 | pandrei | so I need to decide which ones to implement first, and which ones to focus my gsoc project on |
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| 21:24.32 | brlcad | pandrei: bingo |
| 21:24.46 | brlcad | maybe even try to do just one as a patch |
| 21:24.56 | brlcad | s/patch/commit/ |
| 21:25.52 | brlcad | there's almost certainly one or two really easy ones still remaining |
| 21:26.02 | brlcad | I know the easy ones only took rossberg a day or two |
| 21:26.48 | pandrei | I'll submit a patch first, long time since I haven't looked at HACKING guide BRL-CAD |
| 21:27.07 | pandrei | do you happen to know d_rossberg's time zone? |
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| 21:29.03 | brlcad | pandrei: germany, so probably gmt+3 or something |
| 21:29.15 | pandrei | that's great since I'm gmt+2 |
| 21:29.55 | brlcad | got to run, ttyl |
| 21:30.59 | teepee | germany is gmt+1 right now |
| 21:31.13 | teepee | we are not that much east :) |
| 21:31.20 | brlcad | ahh :) |
| 21:32.01 | brlcad | if germany were in the americas, it'd almost certainly span multiple timezones |
| 21:32.11 | pandrei | O_o |
| 21:35.50 | brlcad | ahh, not with the vertical orientation.. fits in nicely |
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