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| 14:17.48 | brlcad | waves |
| 14:21.23 | rays2pix | Good Morning Sean - This is Deepak |
| 14:22.07 | rays2pix | I am working on defining the generic civ_image struct ..planning to have it as a superset of all image formats we are going to support |
| 14:22.54 | rays2pix | as far as the methods to operate on this I am confused on how to choose "what are all the methods we can pick up integrating an external library like cdx/image magick" |
| 14:24.01 | rays2pix | i meant cximage not cdx.. and I didnt get time to go through that source..may I know whether there is any particular reason for recommending it as a integration choice |
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| 15:48.49 | brlcad | rays2pix: excellent, but I'm not sure what you're asking |
| 15:49.28 | brlcad | are you're asking me whether you should integrate a particular 3rd party library? :) |
| 15:50.29 | brlcad | that question is ill-defined as-is |
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| 16:09.51 | rays2pix | brlcad: sorry had to go out.. Yes it was the question~ thanks for understanding. Currently as you suggested earlier I will focus on designing the generic icv_image |
| 16:10.38 | rays2pix | brlcad: if thats the case we can make the decision about integration later when I get time to do more research on it |
| 16:10.50 | rays2pix | right now end semester times, testing times in student life:(! |
| 16:12.26 | brlcad | rays2pix: that question can't be answered without understanding what another library offers |
| 16:12.30 | brlcad | or inspecting how it's designed |
| 16:12.37 | brlcad | or looking at its dependencies |
| 16:12.43 | brlcad | and other factors still |
| 16:12.49 | rays2pix | sure i understand that, I have few libraries in mind. Will do that study later. |
| 16:13.02 | rays2pix | just thought of checking with you guys whether you had that info. no probs |
| 16:13.15 | brlcad | I have tons of info, but that doesn't help you help me |
| 16:13.21 | brlcad | or help you write a proposal :) |
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| 16:13.37 | rays2pix | sure thanks for keeping my life simple:)! |
| 16:14.18 | brlcad | if you're too busy to make a solid application, how are you going to not be too busy to successfully participate? :) |
| 16:14.39 | brlcad | being too busy is the single most common reason people are failed |
| 16:15.01 | brlcad | so I wouldn't be helping you anyways |
| 16:15.20 | ncsaba | Hi all |
| 16:15.24 | brlcad | you could conceivably get in and get failed right away |
| 16:15.25 | rays2pix | From May 22 I will be free from academics, I will yet strive to give my best possible proposal |
| 16:15.52 | rays2pix | right now I wish i had more time to sit and go through various image formats , but clearly I dont have that much time |
| 16:16.01 | brlcad | rays2pix: so no other internship, part-time job, or student activities this "summer" |
| 16:16.05 | brlcad | ? |
| 16:16.09 | brlcad | hi ncsaba ! |
| 16:16.25 | rays2pix | brlcad: No If selected in GSOC its going to be GSoc+ self study |
| 16:16.28 | brlcad | rays2pix: I pointed you at the one library that was the most important to look at if any |
| 16:16.47 | brlcad | what does self study mean? |
| 16:17.00 | ncsaba | brlcad: I see you're real busy with GSOC :-) |
| 16:17.14 | rays2pix | brlcad: picking up something of interest and studying about it |
| 16:17.57 | rays2pix | brlcad:If not selected in Gsoc will still try to find ways to code and get more time for self-study! |
| 16:17.58 | brlcad | ncsaba: yeah, this time of year is always a little hectic when we participate :) |
| 16:18.56 | brlcad | rays2pix: that's kinda vague, but okay..it's good to have interests |
| 16:18.58 | rays2pix | brlcad: l will come up with the proposal update and will get your feedbacks from there. |
| 16:19.09 | brlcad | forewarning that GSoC tends to take up all of your time... |
| 16:19.14 | brlcad | I assume you haven't particiapted before |
| 16:19.22 | ncsaba | brlcad: bad timing for my own impatience :-P |
| 16:19.36 | brlcad | ncsaba: oh? you waiting on something? |
| 16:19.44 | brlcad | my mailbox has a bit of a backlog at the moment |
| 16:19.55 | rays2pix | brlcad: yep this is my first attempt, I have no issues if its going to consume time! I dont have any other assignments |
| 16:19.56 | brlcad | sorry if I overlooked something recent |
| 16:20.26 | rays2pix | brlcad: by self study i meant picking up some books which I reserved for leisure like this one "Computational beauty of nature" |
| 16:20.34 | ncsaba | brlcad: I uploaded a patch with the surface/volume/centroid functions for the pipe primitive/analyze command |
| 16:21.40 | ncsaba | and looking for some heads up/down on continuing with the pipe primitive + making analyze more model/view structured |
| 16:23.07 | ncsaba | I see a lot of potential in using the analyze infrastructure to allow more extensively querying the primitives for key structural elements (center points, tangent lines, etc.) |
| 16:23.41 | brlcad | yeah, I agree |
| 16:24.27 | brlcad | we'd like to expose some of that into a library as well (libanalyze or libgqa) |
| 16:24.37 | brlcad | for fully generalized behavior |
| 16:25.04 | ncsaba | for the pipe primitive for example right now I would have a need to get the center points of the bent segments, to place there some other elements |
| 16:25.10 | brlcad | i reviewed your first patch and except for the indents it looked good, but haven't looked since you started the analyze hook |
| 16:26.23 | ncsaba | well the next patch is trickier, has some math which hopefully is right, and some trickery for the surface discontinuities |
| 16:27.11 | ncsaba | BTW, is there some equivalent of the volume calculations done by gqa, but for surface ? |
| 16:28.10 | brlcad | nope, but that's one of the extensions envisioned |
| 16:28.22 | ncsaba | hmm, I could have a look |
| 16:28.42 | ncsaba | I need a way to confirm the correctness of the surface calculation |
| 16:28.48 | brlcad | gqa itself does sampling and refinement for volume, so it'd have to do a completely different refinement sampling for surface area (curvature-based) |
| 16:28.57 | brlcad | we have lots of ways of doing that |
| 16:29.13 | ncsaba | I will have to read that code |
| 16:29.14 | brlcad | comparing to primitives, for example, where we know exactly |
| 16:29.46 | ncsaba | yes, simple cases work fine, but I'm lazy to check the more complex ones |
| 16:30.43 | ncsaba | I would rather spend a week to write some surface sampling code than 1 hour calculating manually for a few known ones ;-) |
| 16:30.45 | brlcad | easy to build up ones where an exact answer is known |
| 16:31.01 | brlcad | can also compare to polygonalization |
| 16:31.18 | brlcad | which should converge and is directly evaluatable |
| 16:31.31 | ncsaba | ok, that last sentence I'm not sure I understand |
| 16:31.39 | brlcad | no worries |
| 16:31.51 | brlcad | just to know that we have several ways to test an implementation should the time come :) |
| 16:32.08 | brlcad | and now lunch! |
| 16:32.23 | ncsaba | ok, good appetite then :-) |
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| 17:15.33 | priyanka_ | Hello all, I am interested in GSoC Project "Cross Platform Framebuffer" . I have some queries regarding this. 1) Project require making framebuffer in Qt ? 2) Which patch need to submit in order to show that I understood the problem well and can contribute? Any startup help? |
| 17:15.39 | priyanka_ | Please do reply |
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| 18:04.41 | d_rossberg | priyanka_: 1) Qt is an example for a cross platform GUI toolkit. You may use this or any other such library with BRL-CAD compatible lizense. 2) You can find some ideas for a patch in the TODO file in the BRL-CAD repository. |
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| 18:14.10 | ``Erik | http://www.pcworld.com/article/249951/if_it_aint_broke_dont_fix_it_ancient_computers_in_use_today.html |
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| 18:43.53 | Izak | Heyy there |
| 18:44.12 | Guest83358 | brlcad are you there ? |
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| 18:46.05 | Izak_ | Hmmmm |
| 18:46.07 | Izak_ | hsdhhs |
| 18:46.13 | Izak_ | sdhsdjkcsnds |
| 18:46.26 | Izak_ | trying to |
| 18:48.00 | Izak_ | Ch3ck_: How far? |
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| 18:53.30 | zero_level | what are the third party libraries used in brlcad.. just wanted to see the grasp of how they are documeneted and how are the api calls made for those libraries in BRL-CAD code.. |
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| 18:59.39 | zero_level | hey.. i think my chat has been buried between the login details.. here is a copy of that |
| 18:59.40 | zero_level | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:11.43 | kanzure | no, you don't need to repeat yourself. |
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| 19:35.15 | zero_level | @kanzure. ok.. i saw too much zitter due to quit and joined status.. |
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| 20:05.11 | hawthorn | hello i am back |
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| 20:12.42 | Ch3ck | Hey guys |
| 20:26.56 | navdeep | hello |
| 20:28.25 | navdeep | I wan to work with project idea material database for GSOC. |
| 20:29.59 | Ch3ck | nice meeting you navdeep |
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| 20:31.55 | navdeep | Help me from where I can found material database project previous work. |
| 20:32.11 | navdeep | I want to review the project code. |
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| 20:33.42 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55266 brlcad/trunk/src/sig/dconv.c: add 'file' because the code is looking at that argument as a file name |
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| 20:39.46 | Ch3ck | nav_deep: have you downloaded the source code. |
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| 20:41.43 | navdeep | Ch3ck : No, I don't know where to download the source code. |
| 20:42.07 | Ch3ck | ok when did you sign up for the brlcad project? |
| 20:42.16 | Ch3ck | what OS are u using ? |
| 20:42.35 | navdeep | CH3ck : I am using linux OS |
| 20:42.57 | Ch3ck | ok let me give you the link so you can download from the terminal? |
| 20:43.01 | Ch3ck | ok by u ? |
| 20:43.16 | navdeep | Ch3ck : yes |
| 20:43.22 | Ch3ck | ok |
| 20:43.28 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55267 brlcad/trunk/src/sig/dconv.c: simplify the programming, and push 'N =' and 'L =' downward |
| 20:44.28 | Ch3ck | navdeep: first of all have you subscribed to the mailing list? |
| 20:45.27 | navdeep | I have subscribed the BRL-CAD mailing list |
| 20:46.07 | Ch3ck | ok |
| 20:46.24 | Ch3ck | let me give you the svn link you just execute on the terminal.. |
| 20:46.34 | navdeep | Ch3ck : Soon I will Introduce myself with my project idea |
| 20:46.49 | navdeep | Ch3ck : ok |
| 20:46.53 | Ch3ck | ok |
| 20:47.08 | Ch3ck | you'll have to work faster since applications end by Friday. |
| 20:47.55 | navdeep | Yes I will work day and night for this. |
| 20:48.16 | Ch3ck | ok |
| 20:48.19 | Ch3ck | here is the link: |
| 20:48.22 | Ch3ck | svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 20:48.33 | Ch3ck | just execute at the terminal |
| 20:48.42 | Ch3ck | it'll download the latest src |
| 20:52.58 | zero_level | @check.pls help me with this.. "what are the third party libraries used in brlcad.. just wanted to see the grasp of how they are documeneted and how are the api calls made for those libraries in BRL-CAD code." |
| 20:53.45 | Ch3ck | zero_level: do you have the src? |
| 20:53.50 | zero_level | yes |
| 20:55.59 | Ch3ck | ok |
| 20:56.20 | Ch3ck | zero_level: well for brlcad: much of it was written from scratch |
| 20:56.35 | zero_level | yes that is what i found.. |
| 20:56.51 | Ch3ck | from what i don't really see much of them |
| 20:57.04 | zero_level | are there are no third party libraries shipped with the src.. i could find none.. |
| 20:57.06 | Ch3ck | almost all the routines, data structures and the rest |
| 20:57.06 | vladbogo | hi all |
| 20:57.12 | Ch3ck | are custom made. |
| 20:57.23 | Ch3ck | yeah |
| 20:57.32 | Ch3ck | vladbogo: hi |
| 20:57.35 | vladbogo | zero_level I don't know exactly what you are looking for |
| 20:57.44 | vladbogo | but I can suggest you a tool |
| 20:57.48 | vladbogo | maybe it helps |
| 20:57.58 | vladbogo | it's called ack-grep |
| 20:57.59 | zero_level | so is it some policy... or it is fine to write a propsal which helps uses some third party libraries |
| 20:58.25 | vladbogo | you can use it to search in all folders what are you looking for |
| 20:59.04 | Ch3ck | well from what i see there are little or no third party libraries in brlcad. |
| 20:59.26 | vladbogo | something like ack-grep "test" searches all references of test in all dirs and subdirs from where you lunch the command |
| 20:59.55 | vladbogo | it also says in which file the occurrence appeared |
| 20:59.59 | Ch3ck | vladbogo: well that works if zero_level knows exactly |
| 21:00.07 | vladbogo | yes |
| 21:00.08 | Ch3ck | what he is looking for. |
| 21:00.14 | Ch3ck | so in his case |
| 21:00.18 | Ch3ck | that's different |
| 21:00.22 | Ch3ck | so would be difficult. |
| 21:00.35 | vladbogo | maybe it helps |
| 21:00.50 | vladbogo | for me made the navigation in code much easier |
| 21:00.52 | Ch3ck | well may be.. |
| 21:01.08 | Ch3ck | vladbogo: how is your application going. |
| 21:01.33 | zero_level | @vladbogo i have checked for most of the libraries (i know of ) using the grep tool in ubuntu.. didnt get any.. therfefore i tried asking it on the IRC .. |
| 21:02.16 | vladbogo | I've finished a first form of it and now i want to improve it |
| 21:02.27 | Ch3ck | vladbogo: yeah me too.. |
| 21:02.36 | Ch3ck | brlcad gave me some quick fixes |
| 21:02.40 | Ch3ck | which i have done. |
| 21:02.43 | zero_level | @ch3k and @vladbogo if my proposal uses some third party libraries and as i see brlcad was written from raw.. so is it some policy or thy are open to third party libraries..? |
| 21:03.09 | Ch3ck | zero_level: well i don't know but have you read the Hacking file? |
| 21:03.42 | vladbogo | zero_level: I don't know, I am a GSoC student |
| 21:03.57 | zero_level | do you mean readme on the man folder. |
| 21:03.58 | zero_level | ? |
| 21:04.37 | Ch3ck | me too |
| 21:04.44 | Ch3ck | there is a hacking file |
| 21:05.42 | Ch3ck | well the read me should have some info about that. |
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