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| 06:23.33 | brlcad | ``Erik: starseeker: need one or both of you to sign up at https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/homepage/google/gci2012 and send me your link_id |
| 06:23.47 | brlcad | it's separate from the one for gsoc |
| 06:24.57 | brlcad | if anyone is interested in being a mentor for GCI this year, let me know (pm or public, whatever) |
| 06:26.42 | brlcad | GCI is high school, and the tasks are well-defined simple mini-projects that are estimated to take an average student less than two hours to complete |
| 06:27.05 | brlcad | so help formulating ideas is also appreciated! :) |
| 06:27.39 | Stattrav | I wrote the most concise explaination of the project |
| 06:28.16 | brlcad | Stattrav: heh |
| 06:28.49 | brlcad | that's not exactly what I'd call concise, but it'll certainly work ;) |
| 06:41.45 | Stattrav | brlcad: I started working on the frontend now |
| 06:42.12 | Stattrav | I was just messing around with some templating engines so as to have a proper display |
| 06:43.10 | Stattrav | off to go to a class, I shall inform you about that soon. |
| 06:43.55 | brlcad | awesome, thanks -- look forward to the update |
| 06:44.33 | brlcad | has been working on the underlying benchmark infrastructure tremendously of late .. |
| 06:45.29 | brlcad | I did just make a change to the output log just yesterday, but shouldn't affect parsing if that was done right... :) |
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| 07:01.07 | Stattrav | totally |
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| 11:26.19 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.48 | ``Erik | brlcad: (looking at gci, I seem to be attached already...) php? |
| 11:37.59 | ``Erik | that for the drupal stuff? |
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| 14:21.26 | brlcad | ``Erik: yeah, any of the web work |
| 14:21.36 | brlcad | I guessed or your link_id and it seemed to work :) |
| 14:21.54 | brlcad | the app isn't done, I just stubbed it in with some previous language |
| 14:39.58 | crdueck | brlcad: yes, of course. My last midterm is this tuesday, if I submit by thursday will that be alright? |
| 15:17.18 | ``Erik | we could probably chop up the windows threading work into 2-3 bite sized tasks |
| 15:19.31 | ``Erik | (I'd imagine anything this small that we'd think of would mostly be the 'dirty' trivial stuff that our arrogance prevents us from doing) |
| 15:23.46 | ``Erik | mebbe improvements to util/terrain (should that be procdb?) or an lsystem tree generator? |
| 15:24.24 | ``Erik | convert a shell script to tcl so it can run on winderz? |
| 15:25.07 | ``Erik | (like, say, benchmark... or regress...) |
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| 16:56.49 | brlcad | crdueck: okay |
| 16:57.14 | brlcad | ``Erik: unlike previous years, this year they are 2- hour tasks.. |
| 17:14.49 | brlcad | "trivial stuff" is very much the scope |
| 17:15.16 | brlcad | I'm looking to do a task decomposition on the existing Quickies page to make them even smaller |
| 17:15.30 | brlcad | or at least to make sure they're doable within a couple hours |
| 17:22.34 | ``Erik | yeah, I'm just thinking that any ~2hr task we'd want done would be done unless there was some ick to it, like msvc/win32... *shrug* decomposition is another way to find those sized tasks, or 'fresh eyes' type tasks, like reviewing |
| 17:23.16 | brlcad | moving comments from source to headers is a good one |
| 17:23.46 | brlcad | unit tests are good |
| 17:25.33 | brlcad | unit tests for all of libbu and libbn make for about 100 tasks |
| 17:26.05 | brlcad | currently about 20 of 113 |
| 17:27.53 | brlcad | would be easier to track if they were 1:1 instead of N:M |
| 17:28.29 | brlcad | there's probably a few bugs that are <2 hrs |
| 17:38.34 | ``Erik | hm, identifying library functions that aren't used in any of our executables might be handy, too (then the "dead code" vs "third party utility" decision could be made by someone more familiar) |
| 17:38.50 | brlcad | I have a script for that |
| 17:40.01 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/tmp/bu_call_counts.txt for libbu, for example |
| 17:40.15 | ``Erik | speaking of small bugs, 'make test' locks up in the libbu rb tree stuff |
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| 17:43.07 | brlcad | waves to crdueck |
| 17:43.13 | brlcad | er, and cristina :) |
| 17:43.50 | cristina | waves back :) |
| 17:44.24 | brlcad | ``Erik: since when? I don't think that's changed recently.. |
| 17:45.11 | ``Erik | been doing it for a while, try a "make test" |
| 17:45.42 | brlcad | all of my builds right now are single-precision fastf_t builds, so I wouldn't trust them |
| 17:46.03 | ``Erik | I assumed the dude working on it was in progress on it and would fix it, *shrug* |
| 17:46.27 | brlcad | the rb tests are done afaik |
| 17:47.01 | brlcad | worked for me a couple weeks ago when I last ran them |
| 17:49.09 | ``Erik | heh, the test program halts waiting for input. |
| 17:55.11 | brlcad | oh right |
| 17:55.46 | ``Erik | cia is mia |
| 17:56.03 | brlcad | i thought I'd fixed that |
| 17:56.13 | brlcad | you know cia went down, right? |
| 17:56.41 | ``Erik | haven't been paying attention... like permanently? or until someone attends the host? |
| 17:57.19 | brlcad | like as in someone accidentally fdisked the virtual host partition without making a backup |
| 17:58.10 | brlcad | long complicated story, but they're working on restoring service |
| 17:58.32 | ``Erik | nice |
| 17:58.53 | ``Erik | at the beginning of october, looks like |
| 17:59.10 | brlcad | it was a mess before it went down with an ancient django and other issues, and it was apparently a bit beyond the abilities of the latest maintainer's hands |
| 17:59.37 | ``Erik | and no brlbot for local needs? :D |
| 17:59.50 | brlcad | I last worked on it with bearperson about two years ago and he may have a backup (I may too, but on a disabled drive) |
| 17:59.56 | brlcad | go ahead ;) |
| 18:00.29 | brlcad | commit mails are flowing, so someone would just need to set up a procmail on bz to notify irc |
| 18:00.44 | ``Erik | fires up slime and looks for cl-irc O.o |
| 18:02.22 | brlcad | libirc will do the trick easily enough with probably 100 lines of code |
| 18:02.33 | brlcad | (if you wanted to do it in C) |
| 18:02.40 | ``Erik | but it wouldn't have a cl- in front of it |
| 18:02.57 | ``Erik | http://common-lisp.net/project/cl-irc/ |
| 18:12.58 | brlcad | whatever floats your boat, anything is great if it's reliable :) |
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| 18:28.30 | brlcad | waves to andrei__ |
| 18:29.09 | andrei__ | I have to learn how to do this purple writing :( |
| 18:31.08 | brlcad | purple? |
| 18:31.40 | andrei__ | well when you waved me it looks like a different type of writing and I don't know how to do that |
| 18:31.46 | andrei__ | looked* |
| 18:31.51 | brlcad | ooooh, hah |
| 18:31.58 | brlcad | just type /me says hello |
| 18:32.07 | andrei__ | says hello |
| 18:32.10 | brlcad | there ya go ;) |
| 18:32.11 | andrei__ | aah, now I know ! |
| 18:32.37 | brlcad | does a backflip |
| 18:32.43 | brlcad | falls on his face |
| 18:33.28 | brlcad | I thought you were perhaps learning to write purple prose: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_prose |
| 18:34.21 | andrei__ | Im currently using mIRC and in mIRC that command is displayed purple |
| 18:37.35 | ``Erik | yeah, it's an 'action' with ctcp flags and all O.o |
| 18:38.10 | ``Erik | rfc1459 if you want to see the nitty gritty guts of how irc works :D |
| 18:38.23 | andrei__ | irc is defined in rfc ?:o |
| 18:38.47 | ``Erik | the protocol is, yes |
| 18:40.44 | ``Erik | brlcad: was cia using commit emails or a svn post commit hook? |
| 18:41.32 | brlcad | essentially, yes |
| 18:42.20 | brlcad | it was it's on hook, ciabot_svn.py |
| 18:43.50 | brlcad | actually think ciabot_svn.py sent the data via XML RPC, not e-mail .. but I don't know which sourceforge configured it for |
| 18:44.00 | brlcad | probably rpc |
| 18:44.41 | ``Erik | cool, so I can plug in a ucw app to catch the xml rpc message, break it down and shoot it to irc... easy O.o |
| 18:45.16 | ``Erik | (you do have permission to shove a modified ciabot script in, right? mebbe as a second hook in case cia.vc returns?) |
| 18:45.50 | brlcad | I don't think so |
| 18:46.14 | brlcad | we can't define our own hooks, that was one sourceforge provided everyone |
| 18:46.33 | brlcad | the ciabot_svn.py script is obviously wired to send to cia.vc |
| 18:46.52 | brlcad | an e-mail hook is the easiest |
| 18:46.57 | brlcad | then it can just live on .bz |
| 18:58.56 | ``Erik | parsing the generated emails might be ugly |
| 19:06.48 | brlcad | shrug -- they're simple enough to extract with a couple regex |
| 19:07.06 | ``Erik | multiline comments foul that up |
| 19:07.08 | brlcad | the only problem is when the commit message is really long, truncating it |
| 19:08.22 | brlcad | I don't think anyone would cry if the message was sent through 's/[:space:]+/ /g' |
| 19:26.20 | brlcad | ``Erik: gci application completed if you want to review it -- I'm working on the tasks next |
| 20:47.11 | ``Erik | the beginning of the 'why would your org like to participate' doesn't feel quite right to me... apologetic with a hint of glibness O.o mebbe put a positive spin by saying how we're prepared instead of saying that we weren't prepared before? |
| 20:47.56 | ``Erik | other than that, looks great... damn your wordsmithing and copy writing fu |
| 20:49.34 | ``Erik | thinks he has the receiver, parser and infrasture together for brlcia, will verify tomorrow after some commit emails and put the irc bot part in place |
| 20:52.36 | brlcad | awesome! |
| 20:57.50 | ``Erik | https://github.com/erikg/cl-cia mwahaha |
| 21:01.18 | brlcad | reworded why participate intro, thanks |
| 21:01.54 | brlcad | heh, neat |
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| 21:44.41 | brlcad | okay template in place, breaking up the old topics to 2-hour chunks |
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