| 00:36.43 | starseeker | brlcad: I guess you can take another wack at breaking red - I'm not convinced I've used the regex library in the "ideal" way for the task, but it seeme to make a fair bit of sense |
| 00:50.04 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39850 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/red.c: Allow newlines in between floats - a natural editing possibility in red tmp files is to break up a matrix into 4-columns |
| 01:06.06 | ``Erik | he'll be back *shrug* |
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| 03:45.39 | ``Erik | hrm, I don't see it on my shelf :/ starseeker, remind me to look for my TOC book at work tomorrie |
| 03:47.57 | ``Erik | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=theory+of+computation&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&hl=en&cid=1442957637363865374&ei=RRxFTJT7FaLgwwXgkZDbDA&sa=title&ved=0CBkQ8wIwATgA#p |
| 03:48.41 | ``Erik | it lays out the grammar levels and goes into the fundamentals that seperate regex and lex/yacc |
| 03:49.27 | ``Erik | (and is the book that had me choose bf for that task) |
| 03:50.48 | ``Erik | (also the book mostly responsible for taking my 330 starting class down to 17 graduating) |
| 03:51.39 | ``Erik | still regret the one day of lecture for that class I missed... O.o it was intense :D |
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| 09:36.31 | Alexandrus | moin(); |
| 11:00.39 | brlcad | moin |
| 11:01.19 | brlcad | Alexandrus: there's also a 'coil' tool now to help automake pipe creation |
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| 13:39.48 | starseeker | LOL - apple made the macpaint source code available to the computer museum, and apparently stipulated only non-commercial use |
| 13:39.52 | starseeker | wow |
| 13:40.05 | starseeker | tries to imagine a commercial use for that code today... |
| 14:07.59 | brlcad | heh |
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| 14:42.09 | Alexandrus | @brlcad: thanks |
| 14:42.22 | Alexandrus | where do i find information about this? |
| 14:47.03 | Alexandrus | there is some claim in "coil.xml" |
| 14:47.10 | Alexandrus | but can't find the tool nor the command yet |
| 15:18.15 | Alexandrus | ->help automake gives "No help found for automake" |
| 15:51.42 | brlcad | Alexandrus: brlman coil |
| 15:52.03 | brlcad | MANPATH=/usr/brlcad/man:$MANPATH man coil |
| 15:52.09 | brlcad | or that |
| 15:52.54 | brlcad | automake is used by the build system, has little to do with the coil tool |
| 17:25.38 | Alexandrus | ok, i try to figure that out |
| 17:25.45 | Alexandrus | have to say, its not a unix here... |
| 17:26.31 | Alexandrus | so /usr/brlcad/man does not actually exist |
| 17:26.41 | Alexandrus | i greeped the whole folder for "coil" |
| 17:27.35 | brlcad | Alexandrus: which platform? |
| 17:27.45 | Alexandrus | windows vista |
| 17:27.47 | brlcad | ah |
| 17:27.56 | Alexandrus | no brlman found |
| 17:27.56 | ``Erik | coil is a reasonably recent addition, it's probably not in the windows binary package and may not even be in the msvc build stuff yet :/ |
| 17:27.57 | brlcad | coil isn't in the Windows binary distribution yet |
| 17:28.26 | Alexandrus | so i have to work through the source first... |
| 17:29.13 | Alexandrus | whats keeping it from the msvc build? |
| 17:29.37 | ``Erik | lack of someone willing to log into a windows machine? :) |
| 17:30.28 | ``Erik | ooh, I bet the new libpng is gonna break the msvc build, too |
| 17:30.40 | brlcad | Alexandrus: most of the devs don't use windows on a regular basis, so it gets attention at "unpredictable" levels of activity, sometimes high but often lagging |
| 17:30.44 | Alexandrus | the usual portablity issues:) |
| 17:30.55 | brlcad | the code itself is portable |
| 17:31.08 | Alexandrus | i open a mac... |
| 17:31.12 | brlcad | it's maintaining the actual minor build issues, maintaining the build files, etc |
| 17:31.36 | brlcad | moreover, our source releases tend to stay FAR ahead of our binary releases |
| 17:31.40 | brlcad | and coil is pretty new |
| 17:32.00 | Alexandrus | hmm |
| 17:32.19 | Alexandrus | now, i opened a mac.. |
| 17:32.26 | Alexandrus | checking mged version.. |
| 17:32.53 | brlcad | added in 7.14.4 |
| 17:32.54 | Alexandrus | even worse.. |
| 17:33.16 | brlcad | building on the Mac is usually really simple |
| 17:33.17 | Alexandrus | so...i am going to install msvc.. |
| 17:33.22 | brlcad | ~cadsvn |
| 17:33.23 | ibot | To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 17:33.45 | brlcad | cd brlcad && sh autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-all && make -j8 && make install |
| 17:34.24 | ``Erik | hm, coil exists in shapes/, but I see no correlary in the msvc8 project files O.o |
| 17:37.33 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39851 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/coil/: copy tire project as template for coil |
| 17:38.30 | Alexandrus | ok, which vs c++ do you use for compilation? |
| 17:38.47 | brlcad | vc8 |
| 17:38.51 | Alexandrus | ok |
| 17:39.03 | Alexandrus | => visual c++ 2008 |
| 17:39.04 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39852 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (Makefile.am coil/coil.vcproj coil/tire.vcproj): rename tire.vcproj to coil.vcproj and add it to the dist |
| 17:40.23 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39853 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/coil/coil.vcproj: update from tire to coil source file and product exe. |
| 17:41.38 | brlcad | Alexandrus: actually I believe vc8 is Visual C++ 2005 |
| 17:41.45 | Alexandrus | oh... |
| 17:41.53 | Alexandrus | not sure where to find this old thing |
| 17:41.56 | brlcad | they don't have anything to do with the year |
| 17:42.04 | brlcad | 2008 should work |
| 17:42.07 | Alexandrus | i try |
| 17:42.12 | brlcad | but you'll have an easier time on the mac |
| 17:42.28 | Alexandrus | would like to get it running on the big screen |
| 17:42.33 | Alexandrus | so, i wish to try:) |
| 17:42.36 | brlcad | we're in the middle of preparing a release now, and haven't gotten to verifying the windows build just yet |
| 17:42.48 | brlcad | though it should be finished today or tomorrow |
| 17:42.52 | Alexandrus | i am not expecting miracles |
| 17:42.59 | Alexandrus | i just give feedback as much as possible |
| 17:43.06 | brlcad | quite appreciated |
| 17:43.19 | brlcad | saw the forums postings, will reply later |
| 17:43.35 | Alexandrus | forum? |
| 17:43.40 | Alexandrus | i missed this one |
| 17:43.53 | brlcad | I suspect the .mgedrc issue is that windows is treating it as a hidden file due to its name |
| 17:44.42 | Alexandrus | unlikely |
| 17:44.56 | Alexandrus | (to what i know about windows) |
| 17:44.59 | brlcad | if I had a windows box up, I could probably point you right to the file |
| 17:45.12 | Alexandrus | ok, i am trying to get all stuff running |
| 17:45.59 | brlcad | if you hit the menu to create a .mgedrc, and it didn't pop up an error dialog, then it created the file *somewhere* .. just a matter of where |
| 17:46.13 | Alexandrus | ->dir/s ... |
| 17:46.40 | brlcad | should be in top root dir, or dir with mged.exe, or my doc's dir, or some other similar working dir .. but just don't know without having access to windows handy |
| 17:47.41 | brlcad | the name does pose a problem because windows has to treat the file as a special "extended" file with a long extension |
| 17:48.11 | brlcad | since fat32 files only have three characters in their extension portion of filenames |
| 17:48.36 | Alexandrus | thats a ageold dos thing... |
| 17:48.46 | brlcad | so it has to mangle the name as an extended file |
| 17:49.09 | brlcad | sure, they work around it .. with extensions, but under the hood the age old issue is still there, and some tools aren't happy |
| 17:49.27 | brlcad | point only being: I don't trust the autoamtic search |
| 17:49.33 | Alexandrus | i think on ntfs this is completly ignored |
| 17:50.09 | Alexandrus | i have extensions with more than 3 chars here all the time |
| 17:51.03 | Alexandrus | but lets see... |
| 17:51.07 | Alexandrus | still installing/downloading |
| 17:55.15 | Alexandrus | restart... |
| 18:02.18 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39854 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln: add coil to the solution |
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| 18:04.44 | Alexandrus | re:) |
| 18:04.57 | Alexandrus | i am searching the project file now:) |
| 18:09.58 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39855 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (bolt/ gastank/ handle/ human/ window/ window_frame/ wire/): use the tire project as a template, create stubs for bolt, gastank, handle, human, window, window_frame, and wire. |
| 18:11.11 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39856 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (12 files in 6 dirs): use the tire project as a template, create stubs for bolt, gastank, handle, human, window, window_frame, and wire. |
| 18:12.21 | Alexandrus | can't find it..must be blind |
| 18:16.44 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39857 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (13 files in 7 dirs): rename tire stubs for bolt, gastank, handle, human, window, window_frame, and wire. |
| 18:16.47 | brlcad | Alexandrus: misc/win32-msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln is the main solution file |
| 18:16.57 | Alexandrus | ok:) |
| 18:20.54 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39858 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/README.Windows: update the docs to reflect new dir names and outdated info about the display manager. |
| 18:26.22 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39859 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (9 files in 9 dirs): update the tire templates to compile the correct new source files, enable the new tools (bold, fence, gastank, handle, human, window, window_frame, and wire) for compilation. |
| 18:27.30 | brlcad | (and coil) |
| 18:27.35 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39860 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: added all of the remaining shape tools to the windows build: bolt, fence, gastank, handle, human, window, window_frame, and wire |
| 19:05.01 | Alexandrus | errors...more errors...even more errors |
| 19:05.11 | Alexandrus | vc c++ 2008 tries to import |
| 19:05.16 | Alexandrus | but can't read some properties... |
| 19:06.36 | Alexandrus | compiling... |
| 19:19.06 | Alexandrus | missing asc2g.exe... |
| 19:19.21 | Alexandrus | 8 successfull, 54 failed |
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| 19:32.24 | Alexandrus | moin |
| 19:36.47 | Alexandrus | he stops in coil.c 106 "missing ; before type" |
| 19:37.05 | Alexandrus | and he isn't convinced by an extra ";" there |
| 19:37.58 | ``Erik | heh, c99-ism crept in |
| 19:38.13 | Alexandrus | ok, i admit not to understand this |
| 19:38.25 | ``Erik | moving that line to the beginning of the function might fix it |
| 19:39.17 | Alexandrus | its getting worse... |
| 19:39.24 | Alexandrus | "unreferenced local variable" |
| 19:39.32 | Alexandrus | and there is a rather long list following |
| 19:39.49 | Alexandrus | he doesn't like the wp64 switch, if this tells you something? |
| 19:43.03 | Alexandrus | C2275 "invalid use of a type as expression" |
| 19:48.13 | CIA-93 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39861 10/brlcad/trunk/src/shapes/coil.c: various fixes for c89 and windows. |
| 19:48.23 | ``Erik | try that |
| 19:48.36 | Alexandrus | i do |
| 19:58.19 | Alexandrus | fatal error: inputfile "libbu.lib" can't be opened |
| 19:58.36 | Alexandrus | i try to solve this myself this time |
| 20:01.43 | Alexandrus | libbu->libpng : C1083: "Cannot open file ..\..\..\src\other\pngvcrd.c" |
| 20:01.52 | Alexandrus | libbu->libpng : C1083: "Cannot open file ..\..\..\src\other\pnggccrd.c" |
| 20:02.16 | starseeker | Alexandrus: we updated libpng recently, so the Windows build may be out of sync |
| 20:02.34 | Alexandrus | i just updated everything from svn |
| 20:02.53 | Alexandrus | still out of sync? |
| 20:04.59 | starseeker | probably... |
| 20:05.12 | starseeker | unless I missed an update (possible) |
| 20:05.30 | Alexandrus | i just don't know |
| 20:05.33 | Alexandrus | first time i look in the source |
| 20:06.49 | Alexandrus | i heard something about libpng a few hours before.. |
| 20:06.53 | Alexandrus | so, you might be right |
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| 20:55.23 | Alexandrus | its 22:55 here, time to leave |
| 20:55.27 | Alexandrus | thanks for all help:) |
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| 21:27.14 | brlcad | hehe, http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html |
| 22:28.42 | ``Erik | bleh, iphone patch |
| 22:33.44 | ``Erik | that missy thing reminds me of http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/9479.jpg |
| 22:36.55 | ``Erik | isn't dave thorne the one who did the 7 legged spider? |
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| 22:38.28 | ``Erik | yeahhhh, I've read this guys stuff before, good stuff :) |
| 22:38.51 | ``Erik | http://www.27bslash6.com/overdue.html is what got me to his page originally |
| 22:45.15 | yukonbob | ^-- /me likes missing cat one... |
| 22:45.40 | yukonbob | http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html |
| 22:46.01 | yukonbob | feh |
| 22:46.05 | yukonbob | reads more history |
| 22:46.10 | yukonbob | :) |
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| 23:50.56 | ``Erik | ok, apple is starting to piss me off... microsoftian convolution going on |
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