| 00:46.21 | brlcad | happy new year everyone! |
| 00:49.53 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37095 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/sketch/sketch.c: basic macros everyone should know ;) |
| 01:47.40 | ``Erik | hm |
| 01:48.52 | brlcad | hm indeed! |
| 04:09.50 | starseeker | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.01 | starseeker | Happy New Year! (for those on USA East coast or later time) |
| 05:22.34 | starseeker | ``Erik: what in the heck has gotten into the stefil devs, tacking hu.dwim onto everything? |
| 05:39.31 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2100 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* trc */ |
| 05:41.27 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2101 10/wiki/BRL-CAD_Primitives: /* nmg */ |
| 06:58.53 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03Ssd 07http://brlcad.org * r2102 10/wiki/Talk:Main_Page: /* BRL-CAD Primitives */ |
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| 13:32.46 | ``Erik | hm, so this is what 2010 feels like O.o |
| 14:29.32 | starseeker | proposes this decade we switch from declaring the year of Linux on the desktop to declaring the year of *BSD on the desktop :-P |
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| 15:41.48 | ``Erik | desktops are so passe, it's all netbooks and servers, y'know, uh, 'thin clients' |
| 15:41.49 | ``Erik | again |
| 15:41.51 | ``Erik | or something :D |
| 15:42.05 | ``Erik | two point oh |
| 18:30.55 | yukonbob | haha... |
| 18:31.11 | yukonbob | starseeker: ---v (from #netbsd) |
| 18:31.13 | yukonbob | 09:19 < yukonbob> 2010: the year of NetBSD on the Desktop |
| 18:31.13 | yukonbob | 09:20 < yukonbob> hehe |
| 20:19.32 | starseeker | lol |
| 20:20.01 | starseeker | well, since it's NetBSD - "2010: the year of NetBSD on *" |
| 20:32.10 | ``Erik | *bsd is a force to be reckoned with... as a server os... I ifgure the 'desktop' is seriously going to slowly move to being a thin client, I think the whole web two point oh ajax thing is gonna become more and more common |
| 20:32.56 | ``Erik | especially with html5 :) |
| 20:33.03 | starseeker | heh |
| 20:33.33 | starseeker | is still mildly annoyed that there couldn't be some sort of baseline video codec decided upon... |
| 20:33.41 | ``Erik | (and I'm an old unix geek... I don't like it, it's just what it smells like to me) |
| 20:33.44 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 20:33.48 | starseeker | I don't care if it was basic mpeg, just SOMETHING |
| 20:34.05 | ``Erik | but at least there's astandard container for your unstandard video |
| 20:34.19 | ``Erik | heh :( |
| 20:34.37 | starseeker | <snort> and all the players sufficiently capable that they can handle something like that make lawyers' hair stand on end |
| 20:35.20 | ``Erik | is coming up on 30 years of coding :/ |
| 20:36.21 | starseeker | cool :-) |
| 20:36.30 | ``Erik | y'know, was talking to daytona, I've been coding longer than he has |
| 20:37.39 | ``Erik | but he's an awful damn sharp fellow, and got his intro to coding with awfully smart help, he made a comment on wednesday that made me feel like a retard |
| 20:38.01 | ``Erik | good times :) |
| 20:39.37 | starseeker | hehe |
| 20:39.56 | starseeker | hmm, cool - software for drug effect prediction |
| 20:40.38 | starseeker | this is hilarous - they're claiming it's non-commercial license only for academics, but they're also saying it's GPL: http://funsite.sdsc.edu/scb/smap/Registration.jsp |
| 20:41.51 | starseeker | 'course, no academic email no ticket... |
| 20:48.11 | ``Erik | gpl is gpl, they can't do squat about it... they can opt to not respond to email, but.... |
| 20:48.32 | starseeker | yeah, they must be counting on other academics not posting it for download |
| 20:48.52 | starseeker | (which I can't find so far, so perhaps it's working for them) |
| 20:49.16 | ``Erik | seems silly |
| 20:49.34 | starseeker | probably would like to get some $$$ from big pharma |
| 20:51.41 | ``Erik | gpl doesn't prohibit dual licensing *shrug* |
| 20:51.59 | starseeker | yeah, looks like inexperienced setup |
| 20:53.33 | starseeker | sigh Nintendo stomps on a fan film... |
| 20:54.00 | starseeker | you get the feeling lawyers get bored or something |
| 20:54.01 | ``Erik | yeh, /. last night |
| 20:54.46 | starseeker | Large businesses are to grass roots orgs what lawn mowers are to lawns |
| 20:55.14 | ``Erik | all large businesses were small businesses at one point |
| 20:55.38 | ``Erik | :( I think arl has seen the biz size mutation over the last 5 years or so |
| 20:55.57 | starseeker | true, but generally when they're small they have fewer resources to waste on such things... |
| 20:56.47 | ``Erik | kinda makes me want to go create a massive mega-corp |
| 20:56.53 | starseeker | is sometimes tempted to try and sit in on management/business classes just to see what they are teaching them... |
| 20:57.15 | ``Erik | so when I see that kinda fucktardedness, I can put my foot down and go "oh my fucking god, you are ruining everything that is good in humanity" |
| 20:57.19 | ``Erik | :D |
| 20:57.22 | starseeker | bets it's some variation of "Worship the Next Quarter Profit Metric" |
| 20:57.37 | ``Erik | mba's are ... |
| 20:57.47 | ``Erik | shuts up before he gets, uh, non-pg |
| 20:57.49 | starseeker | ``Erik: hmm, interesting - create megacorp, just to run it the right way... |
| 20:58.05 | starseeker | non-pg? |
| 20:58.07 | starseeker | or pc? |
| 20:58.18 | ``Erik | all of the above |
| 20:59.03 | ``Erik | I've word for mega-corps, I've worked for microcorps, ... and I grew up on navy insalations, I can cover your screen wtih my "opinions" |
| 20:59.12 | starseeker | lol |
| 20:59.16 | starseeker | indeed |
| 21:00.41 | starseeker | 's first step in running a megacorp would be to pull all the books on the original "HP Way", and make the managers listen to them while sleeping at night until it becomes instinctual |
| 21:01.33 | ``Erik | see, I'd be mroe apt to purchase a large quanity of cans, instruct mgmt to write "change" on the sides, and put them to teh street with their new tool |
| 21:01.37 | ``Erik | :D |
| 21:02.03 | starseeker | not that american consumers will pay for quality anyway, of course... |
| 21:02.07 | starseeker | heh |
| 21:02.33 | ``Erik | I can see say, a shop foreman being a useful position |
| 21:02.50 | ``Erik | but professionals generally wanna do the righ tthing, they just happen to get paid for it |
| 21:03.04 | ``Erik | um, the tv show 'scrubs', uh, kelso? ... yeah... |
| 21:03.29 | ``Erik | common theme in that show is trying to succeed in spite of mgmt |
| 21:03.42 | ``Erik | which I think is awfully common in real professional life |
| 21:04.25 | ``Erik | heh, twinky got isst attention by working on it from home |
| 21:13.17 | PrezKennedy | ``Erik, about trying to succeed despite management... Amen! |
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| 21:22.30 | ``Erik | stevey: I've yet to see an alegory where mgmt made success. |
| 21:23.39 | ``Erik | my assertation is that when you hire 'professional' folk, step thefuck backa nd let then do what they do, any attempt to control or manage will just result in waste |
| 21:24.55 | ``Erik | when I started at arl, I was putting in mebbe 50-60 hours being productive... it was an important project, and I was part of it... now I'm feeling micromanaged out the wazoo, I spend the last two hours of my day staring at the clock and do my best to avoid touching code when I'm not at work |
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| 22:02.11 | yukonbob | ``Erik: re: AJAX -- I hope not -- what a fugly interface, a browswer. |
| 22:02.35 | ``Erik | do you use gmail? or google maps |
| 22:02.36 | ``Erik | ? |
| 22:03.06 | ``Erik | <-- is thinking of what will be, not what SHOULD be |
| 22:03.12 | starseeker | yukonbob: for a lot of "boring but functional" stuff it works quite well |
| 22:03.21 | starseeker | and there are also the rare cases like google maps |
| 22:04.00 | starseeker | agrees though on the "high end" app side of things - I doubt blender will be getting an AJAX based GUI anytime soon |
| 22:06.19 | yukonbob | I have a gmail acct., and I have used google maps, yes. |
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