IRC log for #brlcad on 20091207

00:03.48CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36820 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob added a new 'data_axes' command to archer
00:38.49*** join/#brlcad jesica__ (n=jesica@201.255.230.172)
00:39.55jesica__brlcad, ill put it in wiki
00:40.12jesica__the mail from forgesuorce is late :P
00:40.43jesica__and i have the second review done
01:30.51CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36821 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/region_end.c: Initialize NMG_debug_state.
01:32.54jesica__what time is it there?
01:39.38``Erikhere? 22:40
01:39.48``Erikno, 20:40, sorry
01:39.50``Erik8:40pm
01:56.53jesica__im still waiting for my subscription
01:57.13jesica__a friend will send it by sourceforge with his name
02:13.00jesica__there will be problem with the accent?
02:13.57``Eriksubscription? accent? whu?
02:15.57jesica__do you thing wont be a problem if i write acción in spyte of accion
02:18.04``ErikI dunno who accion is, but you can spit on hi without bugging us, yes
02:25.10jesica__what?? jajaja
02:25.32``ErikO:-)
02:25.53jesica__what "spit on hi" means?
02:26.44``Erikspit, sypte, something
02:27.37jesica__i know what spit means, but i can understand the sentence
02:31.55``Eriktypo, s/hi/him/
02:32.54jesica__okas
02:33.17jesica__now, who is him? :)
02:33.37jesica__acción means action
02:33.43jesica__in spanish
02:33.52jesica__and it have '
02:34.03``Erikheh, okie, typos + mistranslation, wee
02:34.11jesica__i thought that maybe that can be trouble
02:34.21jesica__troubling?
02:34.40``Erikat the moment, the only trouble around is cat..
02:35.03jesica__jajjaja
02:35.11``Erikmy poor punctured leg :(
02:35.14jesica__starseeker, where are you!!!
02:35.25``Erikgato es loco?
02:35.26jesica__i can understand everything you say!!
02:35.29``Erikor somethin?
02:35.45jesica__cat means gato
02:35.56jesica__crazy or insane is loco
02:36.01``Erikyes, my cats are crazy
02:48.48jesica__mmm how to cook cat in 20 minutes
02:49.02jesica__in Argentina we eat cats
02:50.26``Eriknice, I have probably done the smae when I went to korea, but it tends to horrify americans
02:50.39jesica__jajajjaa
02:50.58jesica__im just kidding
02:51.15``Erik:) I'm not.
02:51.46``ErikI have probably eaten both cat and dog in my travels
02:52.09jesica__http://iweb.dl.sourceforge.net/project/brlcad-es/mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.xml
02:52.20jesica__``Erik, jajajjaa
02:52.52jesica__starseeker, brlcad complete the first
02:57.51jesica__i was thinking that maybe im too unpolite because the irc causes i dont prejudge people
02:58.03jesica__sorry if im too informal
02:58.51``ErikI doubt you'll upset folk, more an issue of people being afk...
03:00.09jesica__``Erik, is funny not understans you :) afk?
03:00.39``Erikaway from keyboard
03:01.13jesica__well, good night people
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03:01.57``Erikcatch yo later, jesica
03:04.12``Erikodd watching curry NOT fake an accent
03:11.50jesica__``Erik, how can i see this file as its seen for the user?
03:12.02jesica__(maybe im not too clear)
03:12.17jesica__like pdf i say
03:22.18starseekerjesica__: what, is ``Erik being annoying again?
03:25.04starseekerjesica__: downloaded the file, thank you :-)
03:25.23jesica__i found only one detail to correct
03:25.47jesica__i ate a letter somewhere
03:27.13jesica__sometimes i think erik is an adult nd sometimes that is a teenager?
03:27.20starseekerhe's an adult
03:27.30starseekerhard to believe I know, but he's older than I am
03:27.43jesica__a very one? :)
03:27.58starseekerhmm?
03:28.56jesica__tell me, how old are you? if you want
03:29.26jesica__just to make a mental image and write correctly
03:29.38starseekeroh - I'm under 30, he's over 30 :-)
03:30.24jesica__so, should i be more formal writing here?
03:30.31starseekernah
03:30.38starseekeras you've noticed, we're informal
03:31.13jesica__I do not want to disrespect anyone
03:31.31starseekerno problem :-)
03:32.01starseekerI'm trying to produce an html version of your document for you, but it's got a syntax bug
03:32.15starseekerand I seem to have misplaced my emacs nxml extension
03:34.02jesica__starseeker, i should learn to do that but not today :P
03:34.21jesica__are you using emacs for that?
03:34.32starseekeryes
03:35.30jesica__mmm iwould like to use it, but ive never done something different to edit with vim simple texts
03:44.14starseekerjesica__: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.pdf
03:44.32starseekerignore the images - I just need to size them correctly
03:45.48starseekerjesica__: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/mged01_creating_primitive_shapes.html
03:45.50jesica__eeeaaaa excellent
03:46.17starseekerI will work on making our documentation building system language aware
03:47.00starseekermakes a note to update the doggone screenshots... mged 5.0, eeek
03:47.15starseekeralrightie, late here - nice work jesica__ !
03:47.24starseekerthank you very much
03:47.41jesica__starseeker, im going to sleep
03:47.48jesica__i saw another error
03:48.15jesica__let me read it again tomorrow and change it on sourceforge
03:48.28starseekerjesica__: is the person who asked for the translation also able to see and review?
03:48.51starseekersounds good!
03:49.08jesica__i guess
03:49.43jesica__two different people read again, but two words are wrong
03:49.53starseekerno big deal, it happens
03:50.09starseekersometimes best test for documentation is to have someone try following it
03:50.11jesica__let me change it and make a last review tomorrow
03:50.17starseekerOK
03:51.08jesica__sorry
03:51.15starseekerno, no problem
03:51.23starseekerI have some work to do on the build system myself
03:52.36jesica__good night people, this time its true :)
03:53.33jesica__starseeker, thank for the companion in my work
03:53.59starseekerglad to help
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10:14.56brlcadhttp://stuffthingsandjunk.blogspot.com/2009/12/stl-to-igs-iges-conversion.html
10:15.34brlcadwe should look into why iges export without -m wasn't working right
10:15.48brlcadotherwise, cool
11:20.57CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r36822 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-X.c: Fixed typo.
12:00.36brlcadoops
12:00.48brlcadC-x 4 f
12:00.48brlcad:)
12:01.13indianla1ryi do it all the time ...
12:14.15``Erikdang emacs weenies
12:33.33brlcadcan't find the damn .vc TLD authority
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14:52.41brlcadhowdy d_rossberg
14:52.57brlcadguten morgen
15:11.46d_rossberggood morning brlcad
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15:55.37dli7.16.2 build error: http://pastebin.ca/1705653
16:08.36d_rossberglooks like it should be HIDDEN in cut.c, line 67
16:09.19dlid_rossberg, is this a compiler problem, or indeed a bug in source code
16:09.47d_rossbergi think it is a bug in the source code
16:10.46dlid_rossberg, any idea how to fix this?
16:10.51d_rossbergwhich only arises in a release build
16:11.10d_rossbergyes, see my first message
16:11.33dlid_rossberg, I don't understand :(
16:12.08d_rossbergedit src/librt/cut.c
16:12.40d_rossbergput HIDDEN in front of line 67 and save the file
16:13.25d_rossberg(look at the surrounding lines)
16:14.06dlid_rossberg, yes, it's building now
16:14.39dlid_rossberg, thanks, let me restart the building process again
16:19.14CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r36823 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/cut.c:
16:19.14CIA-41BRL-CAD: consistent HIDDEN declaration for rt_plot_cut
16:19.14CIA-41BRL-CAD: otherwise the release build my fail
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16:50.37dliis this a typo within 7.16.2 source: http://pastebin.ca/1705706
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17:03.15d_rossbergdli: good question, i don't know much about bwish but it looks like another bug
17:03.42d_rossbergbwish has build on my system, however i don't know how an why
17:06.08dlid_rossberg, thanks
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20:10.12starseekerbrlcad: what was the specific error you sometimes got on parallel make of the docbook?
20:10.25CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2050 10/wiki/BoT: add some initial notes about bot mode types and what they mean
20:12.28brlcadruntime error
20:12.29brlcadruntime xsltApplyStylesheet: saving to lessons/en/mged11_refining_mug.html may not be possible
20:12.55brlcadfor a variety of random files, depends which get there  first
20:13.11brlcadthen then first one reports an Error 9 afterwards (and didn't write out the html file)
20:16.37starseekerlooks like xsltCheckWrite fails in libxslt
20:19.17starseekerbrlcad: thanks for the BoT writeup
20:19.45brlcadsorry to anyone that gets it multiple times, wasn't sure who all is on users
20:19.52brlcad(everyone "should" be...)
20:22.01starseekerbrlcad: any idea what "stereo" mode is in the dm_ogl display manager or how to trigger it?
20:22.23starseekerlot of very ugly looking hard coded values being used just for that little bit...
20:23.23brlcadthere's a render mode that will generate stereographic images (left/right eye images)
20:23.30brlcadfor 3d displays
20:23.43starseekerum
20:23.46brlcadwe do red-blue shift iirc
20:23.53starseekerhad anyone ever used it?
20:23.53brlcadsee the rt lighting modes iirc
20:23.56brlcadyep
20:24.00starseekernuts
20:24.12brlcaddunno why rtgl would need it
20:24.15brlcadprobably just copied
20:24.19starseekerit's in dm-ogl
20:24.34starseekerdidn't like all the ugly const defs
20:24.37brlcadI'd expect to see it in X/ogl
20:25.45brlcaddon't recall how to get to it for the dm, but "usually" stereo mode just draws the same content twice with a slight shift for left/right eyes
20:26.02brlcadput on the glasses and you get the effect
20:26.30brlcadnot too terribly uncommon as funky as it sounds, even bzflag has a stereo render mode
20:27.26brlcadi'm not sure http://pastebin.ca/1705706 is right...
20:27.43brlcadthere is a history_record() in src/mged/history.c
20:29.52brlcadundoubtedly some symbol problem with the one in libbu for production compiles, though
20:31.26brlcaddli: that was for you :)
20:31.54starseekermakes a note to read up on stereo rending to figure out how to do it less hackishly
20:32.28brlcaddli: ah, never mind.. i see your patch was in bwish, not mged
20:33.58CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36824 10/brlcad/trunk/src/bwish/cmd.c: this shouldn't compile for production builds.. history_record is a libbu HIDDEN function. thx for noting this dli.
20:35.58CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36825 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/cmdhist.c: _bu_ prefix the HIDDEN funcs
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21:05.23CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36826 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: make sure XSLTPROC and APACHEFOP are set to : consistently in case they are not detected so we don't end up with a build failure, move the block outside the if test.
21:25.57starseekerreads the tgc shot routine and goes a bit crosseyed
21:26.39CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36827 10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: credit dli aka dongxu_li for his work on getting brl-cad's ebuild in order for gentoo/portage. made (minor) code contributions in december 2009 recently but first started working on the ebuild in april 2009.
21:39.07starseekernow that's interesting
21:39.39starseekernirt reports an overlap los of 1 with a metaball and arb8 overlap but still reports the metaball LOS as 0
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21:45.50starseeker``Erik: your metaballs code is impressive in a "black magic how on earth does this work" kinda way :-P
22:02.48brlcadheh
22:12.28CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2051 10/wiki/BoT: add a section on BoT advantages over STL, reorder and format tweaking too
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22:53.09CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36828 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/backtrace.c: clever compiler, quell warning about unreachable code due to exit() terminations. probably fixed an itsy bitsy memory leak in the process. mark the static funcs HIDDEN.
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22:55.52CIA-41BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36829 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (backtrace.c bitv.c): ws indent style cleanup
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