IRC log for #brlcad on 20091116

00:10.35Emton~seen R0b0t1
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00:10.57R0b0t1omgwtf stalker!
00:11.03Emtonlol
00:11.09Emtonnot me!! it's the ibot
00:11.37Emtonit's watching us, thought u might be another bot
00:11.39Emtonlol
00:11.42Emtonguess not
00:13.53Emtonhave seen this movie, 9/11 Coincidences? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odp1FO0Vmuw
00:17.08Emton~seen Emton
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04:11.45Emtonhey what's up
04:12.04Emtonstarting playing around w/those distros but..
04:12.18Emtonthey use cygwin anyways hehe
04:12.30Emtonso back to cygwin
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07:43.47Emtonanybody?
07:47.53louipcwhat distros?
08:18.21Emtonthose coLinux jammies
08:18.38Emtonwas having problems w/cygwin
08:19.04Emtonturned to be mute since they all use cygwin anyway
11:37.56brlcadyou say you modified libpkg?
11:38.04brlcadshouldn't have needed to
11:54.38CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36484 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/ (Makefile.am TODO): a todo file specifically for libdm. refactor dm-generic, support application driver dms, and remove tcl/tk use from api
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12:50.55CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36485 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/step/configure.ac: remove loads of unnecessary stuff. should reduce configure time some.
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13:08.13CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36486 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/step/configure.ac: more removal for brevity
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13:48.02CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36487 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: if we're compiling stricct, turn attributes off. this is needed because our format string allows a %V conversion character that is not recognized.
13:51.17CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36488 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac:
13:51.19CIA-61BRL-CAD: add compiler tests for strict compilation flags (-pedantic -W -Wall -Werror)
13:51.21CIA-61BRL-CAD: along with -Wno-lang-lang which is needed due to tcl.h's use of the c99 long
13:51.23CIA-61BRL-CAD: long construct. this set of strict compilation flags can be enabled on a per
13:51.29CIA-61BRL-CAD: directory basis using the STRICT_FLAGS variable as directories are cleaned up.
13:51.31CIA-61BRL-CAD: additionally, add -std=c89 to the compile line to make our compliance goal
13:51.37CIA-61BRL-CAD: explicit (at least if we're using gcc).
13:52.38CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36489 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (avs.c list.c parallel.c vls.c): quell a variety of verbose-level warnings, primarily type conversions
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15:16.32CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r36490 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): change line comments (//) to block comments (/* */)
15:33.18starseekerbrlcad: erm - C++ apparently doesn't like -std=c89 - is there a C++ version
15:43.48brlcadahh, right
15:44.08brlcadhadn't gotten that far myself.. disabling gnu extensions caused other failurs
15:48.25CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36491 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: override setting all flags for -std=c89 since we only want CFLAGS, not CXXFLAGS. not a valid std on c++ files.
16:17.49starseekeroh, lovely - opennurbs isn't c89 valid
16:18.33starseekerreflects that if we need to fix opennurbs, it might be time to revert to a vanilla opennurbs in the trunk and make only the minimal changes that we need
16:19.33brlcadwouldn't be, it's c++
16:19.46brlcadit's it barfing on something?
16:19.50starseekeropennurbs_memory.c
16:19.57brlcadhrm
16:20.14brlcadsvn mv opennurbs_memory.c opennurbs_memory.cpp ;)  (j/k)
16:20.26brlcadit's probably c99
16:21.05brlcadif that's the case, need to make that -std flag non-global (to a var), then override the var in opennurbs
16:28.14CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36492 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/jove/jove_io.c: minor ansi compliance patch, use S_ISCHR() instead testing S_IFCHR directly.
16:29.33CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36493 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/step/TODO: Add a TODO about getting the NIST code to actually generated the correct code for src/conv/step
16:29.53starseekerer, generate rather
16:30.30brlcaddon't forget EXTRA_DIST lucy!
16:30.39starseekeroo, good point
16:30.42brlcad</carlos>
16:31.33CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36494 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/step/Makefile.am: Bad developer. Update the Makefile.am too.
16:32.03brlcadheh, thank you gnu hurd for that S_ISCHR() hint
16:32.31starseekerwait, what? HURD actually helped someone do something??
16:32.37starseekerfaints in shock
16:43.55``Erikwait, what? hurd/herd produced something other than a lot of claims about how it'll be awesome?
16:43.58``ErikO.O
16:44.08brlcadwasn't hurd directly
16:44.15brlcadbut a patch from someone to hurd
16:44.22brlcadwas the same patch jove needed
16:44.27brlcador at least similar
16:45.03``Erikthe only patch jove needs is the one measured in megatons
16:45.07``ErikO:-)
16:45.35starseekerdon't worry - on some far day in the remote future we'll be able to nuke it
16:46.19louipcwell, it's disabled by default.. good 'nuff for me
16:47.32starseekerah fudge, forgot to deprecate make_bb
16:49.30starseekerbrlcad: I take it I should make a 7.16 section in deprecated.txt?
16:49.54brlcadif you're deprecating something, yep
16:50.03brlcadjust follow form
16:50.15starseekershould have done it earlier, but I'll do it now...
16:51.26starseekerwonders what else he forgot to deprecate...
16:51.52brlcadif you at least said it in a file elsewhere or in the commit message, "close enough"
16:52.11CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36495 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/deprecation.txt: make_bb will go away in favor of bb, which defines a superset of its functionality.
16:52.21brlcadsomeone should weed out the oldest deprecations at some point
16:52.36brlcadno sense keeping the ancient issues active
16:52.55starseekerwhat's the distinction between deprecated and obsolete?
16:53.05brlcadobsolete is when it's removed
16:53.20brlcaddeprecated is when it's scheduled to be removed
16:53.25starseekerah
16:53.53starseekeris a bit confused - how come there is anything newer than 7.12 in obsolete?
16:53.53brlcadso top items are moved to the bottom when they're finally yanked, so there's a log of what happened even if you missed deprecation
16:55.28brlcadheh, damn!
16:55.33starseekerOh, I see - "there exists a an equivalent alternative interface"
16:55.40brlcadthe new Werror portion is killer
16:56.06brlcadworking like a charm, but damn is it failing cross-platform even on our "clean" libbu..
16:56.09brlcadquells
16:56.11EmtonI had to modify libpkg because of conflicts with socket.h, un.h
16:56.22CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36496 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/deprecation.txt: Fix typo in instructions.
16:56.27brlcadEmton: can you be more specific?
16:56.39brlcadsuspect maybe a header test failed?
16:56.47brlcador a specific patch that fixed it
16:56.50Emtonyea, hang on i'll reproduce
16:58.10Emtonhere is what happend *after* i hacked the .h redefine errors away
16:58.12Emton$ make
16:58.12Emtonrict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -version-info 19:1 -no-undefined -L/us
16:58.12Emtonr/local/lib -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fexceptions -g -o libpkg.la
16:58.12Emton-rpath /usr/brlcad/lib pkg.lo tcl.lo vers.lo
16:58.12Emton.libs/pkg.o: In function `pkg_open':
16:58.12Emton<PROTECTED>
16:58.14Emton<PROTECTED>
16:58.16Emton<PROTECTED>
16:59.51brlcadstarseeker: there's a bug report on the 10.4 ogl-enabled build causing a crash
17:02.26starseekercrud. we've really got to get to AquaTk and get off this Mac X11 merry-go-round
17:02.53brlcadEmton: hm, some net lib is missing
17:03.47brlcadobviously detected HAVE_WINSOCK_H .. so it's trying to use winsock
17:04.08Emtonwell gethostbyname was one of the things it complained of originally being "redefined" so I ripped it out of a local winsock.h for libpkg
17:04.34Emtondo you know what WSAStartup is?
17:04.42brlcadyes
17:04.51brlcadneed to know what that original problem was
17:04.53``Erikthe function to initialize the socket library on winderz
17:05.12brlcadif it was being redefined due to our headers
17:05.12Emtonyea, i think its stemming from automake issues
17:05.14``Erikneeds winsock.dll linked, I imagine
17:05.19brlcadyeah
17:06.16Emtoni've got like 5 versions on here, don't know if that's the problem, but i think i'll wipe out the stuff and add it back
17:07.41brlcadlibpkg compiles cleanly now via studio, so it should just be build settings that need tweaking, not source changes
17:07.51brlcadmaybe a few preprocessor checks
17:08.20brlcadbut no logic changes should be necessary
17:09.09Emtonyea, another thing it complained about was the return (PKG_ERROR) stuff
17:09.25Emtonnot being casted, i cast as (int) and it stopped
17:13.42CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36497 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: strict c89 standards compliance without gnu or bsd extensions is a bit too far out of reach .. disable for the time being.
17:15.29CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36498 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/pkg.c: quell warning. cast since the func returns int (thx Emton) and PKC_ERROR is already a cast pointer.
17:18.09Emtonis libpkg really needed for standlalone server?
17:18.28brlcadwhat do you mean?
17:18.53brlcadit's a low-level networking library, how most of the framebuffer utilities intercommunicate
17:19.05Emtonit says in pkg.c sounds like ipc stuff
17:19.24brlcadit is, sorta
17:19.27Emtonoh ok yea
17:19.51Emtonwasn't sure if it was for more distributed model of BRLCAD
17:20.28brlcadnope, it's intrinsic to many of the tools
17:20.54Emtonyea, rt won't build w/out it
17:21.06brlcadmostly the server-based tools, one of which is a distributed processing tool, but others too
17:22.25brlcadall the tracers, most of the framebuffer tools, all the display managers, the remrt distributed rendering system, the mged gui (framebuffer and diplay manager servers embedded), .. and probably a few others
17:22.40Emtonheh, u fixed that cast problem quick =)
17:23.29Emtonyea, i know i need to fix this cygwin env problem and get it done right
17:28.08CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36499 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: keep disabled, but need to move the c89 test above above the headers and types so the tests will fail properly (ran into HAVE_SIG_T getting defined even though it's a bsd extension, compile-time failure.)
17:28.37brlcadyeah, if you can update to a latest checkout, no mods.. compile and report that pkg error -- can see what the fix should be for gethostbyname and whatever else was failing
17:32.24Emtonalright, i'll get it and let you know what happens, takes hours for me on this antique here tho
17:32.47brlcadnods
17:32.56CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36500 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: minor comment
17:46.19CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36501 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: technically now have stricter compilation flags on 'clean' directories .. just only one dir (libbu) is clean, and semi-clean at that (can't enable -std=c89 justwithout quellage)
18:05.36CIA-61BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36502 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/mappedfile.c: mmap takes void*, feed it NULL
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