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| 01:14.50 | R0b0t1 | Hey, anyone there? |
| 01:15.02 | R0b0t1 | I'm having problems compiling brlcad from source on my ubuntu |
| 01:15.14 | R0b0t1 | It says libz.la doesn't exist... |
| 01:15.24 | R0b0t1 | But it should be in the archived directory I unzipped. |
| 01:26.06 | ``Erik | when you ran ./configure, did it say it was going to use the system zlib, or try to build it? |
| 01:29.06 | R0b0t1 | ``Erik: It says "no: Using system" |
| 01:29.18 | R0b0t1 | Although, it says a surprising number of things I have installed are missing |
| 01:29.25 | R0b0t1 | For extra features, hm |
| 01:35.58 | ``Erik | then libz.la shouldn't be looked for at all, it should do -lz to pick up the .so file O.o where does it break? |
| 01:36.33 | ``Erik | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ if you want to paste teh chunk leading up to the error? |
| 01:37.33 | R0b0t1 | http://pastebin.com/m5f5e4afd |
| 01:37.44 | R0b0t1 | loves bzflag, but already had a pastebin window open |
| 01:41.53 | ``Erik | bzflag.bz == brlcad.org :) |
| 01:42.18 | ``Erik | just haven't coerced brlcad into making the paste.brlcad.org work yet... O.o |
| 01:43.17 | ``Erik | hm, so the output at the end of configure said it was going to compile tcl and tk, but use the system libz and libpng? |
| 01:43.42 | ``Erik | (and... 7.8.4? where did you get that?) |
| 01:44.08 | ``Erik | and 7.12.2? something's seriously screwed up there heh |
| 01:44.43 | ``Erik | it'd be best to grab 7.16.0 from sourceforge |
| 01:46.41 | R0b0t1 | Hmm |
| 01:46.49 | R0b0t1 | I thought I was getting the newest one, :P |
| 01:49.24 | ``Erik | http://sf.net/projects/brlcad/files/BRL-CAD%20Source/7.16.0/ |
| 02:00.24 | R0b0t1 | Damn. That's a lot of warnings. |
| 02:01.22 | ``Erik | ? |
| 02:01.22 | Maloeran | Building stuff on Ubuntu is rather annoying, you have to install all these little "dev" packages just to get header files and static libraries |
| 02:01.35 | brlcad | where is it in the compile? some portions arent ours to quell |
| 02:01.44 | ``Erik | src/other specifically |
| 02:03.06 | Maloeran | I really don't understand why the package maintainer felt they should provide separate "-dev" packages to allow actual compilation of software using the libraries |
| 02:03.18 | Maloeran | The 5kb .h file was just too heavy? Ah gez |
| 02:03.28 | Maloeran | package maintainers* |
| 02:03.29 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:03.32 | ``Erik | pets fbsd O:-) |
| 02:03.37 | R0b0t1 | Ewww |
| 02:03.39 | R0b0t1 | Go gentoo. |
| 02:03.49 | R0b0t1 | Oh, nothing is fatal yet. Just... lots of warnings... :P |
| 02:05.20 | Maloeran | Gentoo is great, just don't ever try to do a major update once it's installed and running :) |
| 02:05.47 | ``Erik | pets his fbsd boxen that do major updates without sweating it :) |
| 02:07.08 | Maloeran | Yes, the Gentoo crowd kind of messed up the convenience of a software packaging system |
| 02:07.54 | ``Erik | they made a halfassed attempt to copy the bsd one and ended up with typical linux quality... :> *duck* |
| 02:07.57 | Maloeran | I don't want to have to modify obscure symlinks to update my "profile", or modify some files to force the system to install a package it decided I didn't want |
| 02:08.52 | ``Erik | (no one fighting? darn.) |
| 02:09.11 | Maloeran | "This package is masked!" .... "Now go figure out what that means and how to bypass my database, because I'm a stubborn packaging system and I don't care about what you think you need." |
| 02:09.40 | R0b0t1 | Ello, new error: http://pastebin.com/m2a2e5ac3 |
| 02:10.04 | R0b0t1 | wat |
| 02:10.16 | R0b0t1 | how is emerge --keep-going world obscure |
| 02:10.26 | Maloeran | Sorry, 4 years of Gentoo have taken their toll on me |
| 02:10.53 | Maloeran | --keep-going will not install a masked package |
| 02:11.06 | R0b0t1 | Oh, well yeah. |
| 02:11.10 | ``Erik | that error says that your xslt/libxml2 stuff is broken |
| 02:11.41 | ``Erik | looks like a 64 vs 32 bit issue? |
| 02:11.46 | R0b0t1 | Perhaps |
| 02:11.48 | R0b0t1 | I am on 64bit |
| 02:12.06 | R0b0t1 | And I borked my synaptic because someone turned my comp of while upgrading. |
| 02:12.15 | R0b0t1 | Dunno if that's it, though. |
| 02:12.20 | R0b0t1 | Anything you could think of I could try? |
| 02:12.29 | ``Erik | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=610789 |
| 02:12.55 | R0b0t1 | Wait, what |
| 02:13.09 | ``Erik | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml2/+bug/151045 |
| 02:14.23 | ``Erik | http://www.mail-archive.com/sage-devel@googlegroups.com/msg10281.html |
| 02:14.30 | ``Erik | (amusingly, I went to school with jason grout) |
| 02:15.08 | Maloeran | Apparently you got to remove some /usr/local/lib/libz* and reinstall |
| 02:15.18 | R0b0t1 | has no /usr/local/lib |
| 02:15.31 | R0b0t1 | Well, hmm |
| 02:15.36 | ``Erik | it's a "your libz and libxml2 don't match up right" issue |
| 02:15.36 | R0b0t1 | It says to remove older versions |
| 02:15.53 | Maloeran | As it should be, Ubuntu doesn't install anything in /usr/local, some people may manually install stuff there and it generates library conflicts... |
| 02:16.55 | Maloeran | Check what you got in LD_LIBRARY_PATH, for any strange path |
| 02:17.15 | R0b0t1 | Looks normal |
| 02:17.16 | Maloeran | Software installed from different sources may modify that path and install libraries in other locations |
| 02:17.41 | ``Erik | mebbe try reinstalling libz and libxml2? *shrug* |
| 02:17.43 | R0b0t1 | Ah, hm, I see a way to continue my upgrade from where it was terminated. I'll finish that and perhaps come back, I would assume that would fix it. |
| 02:18.15 | R0b0t1 | Thanks for your help :). I think it's some deeper-level error though, not really easily fixable at all. |
| 02:18.34 | ``Erik | really? on fbsd, it'd just be "portmanager -u -bu -l" and go have cookies |
| 02:18.37 | ``Erik | :D *duck* |
| 02:18.44 | R0b0t1 | Ta, off to install gentoo on my slimclient (with only usb ports and svideo... had to plug the SATA into another comp) |
| 02:18.45 | Maloeran | Eh, doesn't sound like such a big error to me... |
| 02:18.55 | R0b0t1 | Well, big as in, weird. |
| 02:19.30 | ``Erik | isn't ther ean "emerge --do-everything-that-was-supposed-to-happen-but-didnt"? :) |
| 02:19.39 | R0b0t1 | Yeah, or something like it. |
| 02:19.49 | R0b0t1 | Well, but I mean, it doesn't really break anything completely. |
| 02:20.00 | ``Erik | looks at the gentoo manpage at http://funroll-loops.info/ |
| 02:20.02 | R0b0t1 | But something you linked me to, ``Erik, gave me the solution. |
| 02:20.18 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 02:21.12 | Maloeran | Gentoo is weird really. It tries to be very user-friendly in preventing you of doing "bad" stuff like installing packages it decided you didn't need... but it requires one to modify obscure symlinks and files at random occasions |
| 02:21.56 | Maloeran | As if they only managed to get the bad part at trying to be user-friendly |
| 02:22.54 | R0b0t1 | Meh |
| 02:23.05 | R0b0t1 | There's times where everything needs a "shut up and listen" button. |
| 02:23.20 | R0b0t1 | I've personally gotten REALLY tired of some software not listening :p |
| 02:24.04 | Maloeran | Yes, I have developed a... special and strangely emotional relationship with Gentoo's emerge |
| 02:24.09 | Maloeran | And it isn't going too well |
| 02:29.22 | starseeker | brlcad: do I need to update the ChangeLog again? |
| 02:29.45 | R0b0t1 | Haha! |
| 02:29.47 | R0b0t1 | That fixed it. |
| 02:29.57 | R0b0t1 | It was a relic causing trouble from my interrupted upgrade. |
| 02:35.16 | R0b0t1 | Really quick question. |
| 02:35.19 | R0b0t1 | How do I run brlcad. |
| 02:35.59 | ``Erik | um, there're over 400 programs |
| 02:36.05 | ``Erik | the one most people are looking for is "mged" |
| 02:36.33 | ``Erik | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Documentation |
| 02:38.01 | R0b0t1 | Hmm |
| 02:38.39 | R0b0t1 | Bummer, thought it'd have a GUI :p |
| 02:38.42 | R0b0t1 | reads the docs |
| 02:38.58 | ``Erik | mged is the "gui" |
| 02:40.16 | R0b0t1 | I'd be calling it more of a CLI. |
| 02:40.44 | R0b0t1 | Ruh-roh, unable to initialize gui |
| 02:44.06 | R0b0t1 | ``Erik: Heh, got a few more minutes? |
| 02:44.09 | ``Erik | ? |
| 02:45.55 | R0b0t1 | mged starts with |
| 02:45.55 | R0b0t1 | MGED unable to initialize gui, reverting to classic mode. |
| 02:45.55 | R0b0t1 | attach (nu|X|ogl)[nu]? |
| 02:46.17 | R0b0t1 | :-\, and no matter which option I choose, only provides a CLI |
| 02:47.11 | ``Erik | hrm, classic mode is a command line interface with a display window (X would be the one you want) |
| 02:47.19 | ``Erik | if it's doing that, it means your tk isn't quite right |
| 02:47.41 | ``Erik | perhaps try rebuilding BRL-CAD, this time using ./configure --enable-all --enable-optimized |
| 02:47.43 | R0b0t1 | tk? |
| 02:47.52 | ``Erik | yeah, tcl/tk is how the gui is done |
| 02:47.53 | R0b0t1 | ok, then :) |
| 02:48.44 | starseeker | Maloeran: I find once I get /etc/make.conf, /etc/package.mask, /etc/package.unmask, and /etc/package.use set properly it helps a lot |
| 02:49.05 | starseeker | usually tossing something in one of those 4 files handles things |
| 02:50.31 | brlcad | starseeker: nah, it's close enough |
| 02:50.37 | R0b0t1 | http://pastebin.com/m51a51776 |
| 02:50.40 | R0b0t1 | Another error :0 |
| 02:50.57 | brlcad | hm, that'd be an interesting system to debug.. enough tk to link, but not configured properly to initialize |
| 02:51.01 | R0b0t1 | But it's in other, I think I remember something about ignoring those :) |
| 02:51.18 | brlcad | yeah, add --disable-jove |
| 02:51.23 | brlcad | you don't want it anyways |
| 02:51.37 | R0b0t1 | Hm, really? |
| 02:51.42 | brlcad | that build issue is fixed in svn head |
| 02:51.47 | R0b0t1 | Oh, I see. |
| 02:52.22 | R0b0t1 | wonders what jove did anyway |
| 02:52.29 | ``Erik | a really shitty old emacs clone |
| 02:53.12 | ``Erik | I mean, uh, "jonathons own version of emacs" |
| 02:54.55 | R0b0t1 | (XD) |
| 02:55.09 | R0b0t1 | I ran the new ./config line, but I still have problems. |
| 02:56.01 | ``Erik | bites his tongue O:-) |
| 02:56.11 | R0b0t1 | ... the same problem |
| 02:56.12 | R0b0t1 | :p |
| 02:56.20 | R0b0t1 | I added disable-joves though |
| 02:56.53 | ``Erik | --disable-jove, not --disable-joves... O.o |
| 02:56.56 | R0b0t1 | It provides me no GUI |
| 02:57.13 | ``Erik | ah, you mean it installed with --enable-all and still has the 'unable to initialize tk' error? |
| 02:57.20 | R0b0t1 | I did it right on my ./configure, whooops. |
| 02:57.27 | brlcad | you have to "make clean" after reconfiguring |
| 02:57.29 | R0b0t1 | ``Erik: Yeah... |
| 02:57.30 | R0b0t1 | Oh |
| 02:57.31 | R0b0t1 | Heh |
| 02:57.33 | brlcad | and then rebuild |
| 02:57.56 | starseeker | glares at 3Dconnexion - how the heck can you "license" a device for professional use? |
| 02:58.26 | ``Erik | sips the beer he licensed O.o |
| 02:59.04 | ``Erik | (it's all good, I'll be done with it in a couple hours and delete my, uh, copy O.o) |
| 02:59.22 | starseeker | SpaceNavigator is awesome, but that makes me very wary of them |
| 02:59.45 | ``Erik | hrm, you weren't wary when you saw "a logitech company"? O:-) |
| 03:00.10 | starseeker | I mean, increased support sure, but do they claim that you CAN'T use the device, even unsupported, for commercial activities? |
| 03:00.27 | R0b0t1 | It's only cheating if you get caught. |
| 03:00.43 | ``Erik | imagines it would be a very short court case |
| 03:00.51 | starseeker | no kidding |
| 03:01.15 | starseeker | I thought the rule with hardware was still "I bought it, it's mine now" |
| 03:01.35 | starseeker | unless 3Dconnexion thinks they're "renting" the things... |
| 03:02.00 | starseeker | https://3dconnexionstore.com/itemDetail.asp?itmNo=77826423N |
| 03:02.12 | starseeker | "allows for commercial use..." WTF? |
| 03:02.13 | ``Erik | they're a corporation, they're gonna keep pushing the limits until they get smacked down... I mean, just look at http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/06/1639252/Cable-Exec-Suggests-Changing-Consumer-Behavior-Not-Business-Model?art_pos=9&art_pos=9 |
| 03:02.47 | starseeker | wonders if they mean "allows" in the sense of "makes possible due to having proper support" |
| 03:02.49 | R0b0t1 | The fuck |
| 03:02.51 | R0b0t1 | That is weird. |
| 03:03.22 | ``Erik | be amusing to throw that link on hn or something to see the geek riot |
| 03:03.51 | R0b0t1 | The world needs more extremists... Because they're the only people who seem to get things done. |
| 03:04.06 | ``Erik | heh |
| 03:04.09 | starseeker | if they mean that in the "thou shalt not do anything commercial with this hardware without a proper license" my motivation to write up BRL-CAD support for it goes byebye |
| 03:04.28 | ``Erik | send it to rms, he'll show up at logitech hq, steal the food off their plates and emit body odors :D *duck* |
| 03:07.09 | starseeker | considers emailing 3D for clarification... wonder if they'd respond or not |
| 03:07.49 | starseeker | yay, a working merge |
| 03:07.54 | starseeker | now, one final distcheck |
| 03:09.53 | ``Erik | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=14566 heh |
| 03:11.19 | ``Erik | zomfg O.O http://tinyurl.com/6d7xo4 I need one |
| 03:11.50 | starseeker | ``Erik: heh - that first one could be a Despair poster |
| 03:12.04 | brlcad | more than likely, commercial use just invalidates support, software driver updates, liability, .. you're on your own |
| 03:12.17 | ``Erik | notes that starseeker hasn't poked around motivatedphotso much |
| 03:12.43 | starseeker | brlcad: yeah, that's what I figured - they word it very badly though |
| 03:13.00 | brlcad | more likely, just a way to milk a little more money because businesses will have to get the more expensive one |
| 03:13.27 | ``Erik | still seems low trying to constrain use like that |
| 03:20.23 | starseeker | brlcad: hmm - I doubt their SDK license is compatible - does that mean we're looking at reverse engineering it? |
| 03:20.43 | starseeker | http://www.3dconnexion.com/support/4h.php |
| 03:23.13 | R0b0t1 | *sigh* |
| 03:23.30 | R0b0t1 | I still get "MGED unable to initialize gui, reverting to classic mode." |
| 03:23.34 | R0b0t1 | Anything else I could try? |
| 03:23.50 | brlcad | ?ot |
| 03:24.01 | brlcad | starseeker: it's not unlike the pro/e and unigraphics plugins |
| 03:24.23 | brlcad | we're not redistributing the sdk |
| 03:24.58 | starseeker | ah - so we don't have to have it present in BRL-CAD to make use of the device? |
| 03:26.15 | starseeker | (since this device is available for <$100 even in the worst case, it would be nice to have everything needed to use it with BRL-CAD already in BRL-CAD...) |
| 03:26.19 | brlcad | those terms would apply to the dev compiling and their use of the sdk -- our code remains ours |
| 03:26.34 | brlcad | everything is pretty much already in brl-cad |
| 03:27.02 | brlcad | there are bindings for those 6-dof already, at least event-wise |
| 03:27.28 | brlcad | could even pass them through as key-bindings and use their simple gui control panel to emulate key stokes |
| 03:28.57 | brlcad | R0b0t1: really? that's an a clean installed enable-all build?? find that hard to believe |
| 03:29.14 | brlcad | unless you dont' have X running or something |
| 03:29.25 | R0b0t1 | Hmm |
| 03:29.27 | R0b0t1 | YEah. |
| 03:29.34 | R0b0t1 | Pretty sure I have X running. :p |
| 03:30.02 | R0b0t1 | brlcad: Yeah, it's all of what you said. |
| 03:30.02 | R0b0t1 | :S |
| 03:31.23 | brlcad | if you run fbhelp, what does it output? |
| 03:31.32 | brlcad | and does it flash a window |
| 03:31.53 | brlcad | er, display a window |
| 03:32.13 | brlcad | pastebin the fbhelp output |
| 03:32.21 | brlcad | ~bzpaste |
| 03:32.22 | ibot | hmm... bzpaste is http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/ |
| 03:32.25 | brlcad | there |
| 03:32.32 | brlcad | (the .com sucks) |
| 03:33.18 | ``Erik | *cough* make paste.brlcad.org work *cough* O:-) |
| 03:33.42 | brlcad | somebody hear something? |
| 03:33.48 | brlcad | hm, must have been the wind |
| 03:33.50 | ``Erik | wonders if bwish would be a good trial |
| 03:34.22 | ``Erik | ponders saving wind up all weekend for brlcad's office O.o nahhh, coudln't do that to d-lo |
| 03:34.35 | brlcad | bwish was next .. wanted to see what was compiled first, and verify that X is working first |
| 03:34.53 | brlcad | right, you totally could/would do that to d-lo |
| 03:35.22 | ``Erik | ok, I couldn't do that to my hiney. O.o |
| 03:35.53 | R0b0t1 | brlcad: Sorry |
| 03:35.57 | R0b0t1 | And yes, a window appears. |
| 03:36.29 | R0b0t1 | brlcad: http://pastebin.com/m4cbd8971 |
| 03:37.40 | starseeker | RObOt1: use pastebin.bzflag.bz |
| 03:39.07 | R0b0t1 | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m50e8a7f |
| 03:40.24 | brlcad | hm, you enabled ogl |
| 03:40.32 | brlcad | so next up, run bwish |
| 03:40.48 | ``Erik | ogl shouldn't interfer with tk, though |
| 03:40.52 | brlcad | does it display a window? |
| 03:41.20 | brlcad | the embedded dm-ogl might be having trouble initializing if he's got a crap card/config/combo |
| 03:43.18 | R0b0t1 | Aha |
| 03:43.22 | R0b0t1 | I might have to install tcl |
| 03:43.39 | brlcad | heh, I asked if you installed :) |
| 03:43.48 | R0b0t1 | Hmm |
| 03:43.52 | R0b0t1 | It is installed, as I thought. |
| 03:44.18 | brlcad | are you running the installed binary or the in-dir compiled binary? |
| 03:44.27 | R0b0t1 | Says something about not finding ./tcl8.5.1/library/init.tcl |
| 03:44.32 | R0b0t1 | installed |
| 03:45.20 | starseeker | that's not the version we have in any recent tarball |
| 03:45.50 | brlcad | yeah, that's not ours |
| 03:45.51 | R0b0t1 | Eh |
| 03:45.55 | starseeker | maybe a distclean + ./configure --enable-all ? |
| 03:46.40 | brlcad | or even starting over with a fresh checkout/download and build/install |
| 03:46.44 | R0b0t1 | No rule to make distclean? |
| 03:46.50 | brlcad | sounds like you got something stale |
| 03:47.06 | starseeker | R0b0t1: unless brlcad tells you different, give this a go from your top level brlcad directory: make distclean && ./autogen.sh && ./configure --enable-all && make |
| 03:47.30 | starseeker | then (as root unless you have other permissions set up for /usr/brlcad) make install |
| 03:48.07 | R0b0t1 | make[1]: *** No rule to make target distclean. stop. |
| 03:48.13 | starseeker | blinks |
| 03:48.19 | starseeker | what directory are you in? |
| 03:48.32 | R0b0t1 | brlcad-7.16.0, where I unziped the tarball. |
| 03:49.15 | starseeker | um. ok, just blow away the old directory and re-unzip the tarball |
| 03:49.16 | brlcad | is that where you compiled? |
| 03:49.48 | brlcad | you did something wrong or you're in the wrong dir or you already ran a partial/full distclean before |
| 03:56.08 | R0b0t1 | Well, I re-untar'd, doing everything but the make distclean |
| 03:59.21 | starseeker | how's it going? |
| 04:02.12 | *** join/#brlcad Patmcc19 (n=chatzill@174-17-176-182.phnx.qwest.net) |
| 04:02.25 | R0b0t1 | starseeker: Chugging along... |
| 04:06.23 | R0b0t1 | Oh, docbooks, almost done |
| 04:08.53 | R0b0t1 | starseeker: brlcad: Still the same error. |
| 04:10.37 | R0b0t1 | I mean, no GUI. |
| 04:10.42 | starseeker | after a make install |
| 04:10.45 | R0b0t1 | yes |
| 04:10.54 | starseeker | /usr/brlcad/bin/mged ? |
| 04:11.17 | R0b0t1 | ... |
| 04:11.19 | R0b0t1 | Hmm |
| 04:11.26 | R0b0t1 | That's really odd. Because that works. |
| 04:11.40 | starseeker | do "which mged" |
| 04:11.52 | starseeker | without the quotes |
| 04:12.05 | R0b0t1 | /bin/mget |
| 04:12.07 | R0b0t1 | aha |
| 04:12.15 | starseeker | bingo |
| 04:12.49 | R0b0t1 | I put the brlcad before the others. |
| 04:12.51 | R0b0t1 | Now it works :) |
| 04:13.06 | starseeker | cool - have fun :-) |
| 04:14.11 | R0b0t1 | One quick thing -- how do I make a database? |
| 04:14.18 | R0b0t1 | Swear that's my last question. |
| 04:15.10 | starseeker | File->New... in mged will work |
| 04:15.34 | R0b0t1 | Yeah, I was doing that, but it fails with "no database is currently opened |
| 04:15.45 | starseeker | or if you supply a nonexisting name to mged as a command line argument, it will ask if you want to create it |
| 04:15.49 | starseeker | e.g. mged test.g |
| 04:16.13 | starseeker | oh, was it now... |
| 04:16.20 | starseeker | checks |
| 04:16.51 | starseeker | hmm, works in latest svn |
| 04:17.09 | R0b0t1 | Oh, there we go. |
| 04:17.11 | R0b0t1 | Now it works. |
| 04:17.14 | R0b0t1 | Ok, thanks :) |
| 04:17.23 | R0b0t1 | starts playing with his brlcad and goes lurking |
| 04:18.34 | CIA-37 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r36451 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS TODO src/util/Makefile.am src/util/pix-ppm.1): added a man page for the pix-ppm command |
| 04:19.47 | starseeker | wonders if anyone has ever used a SpaceNavigator to play quake ;-) |
| 04:24.07 | yukonbob | R0b0t1: enjoy!!!!!1 |
| 04:31.39 | CIA-37 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36452 10/brlcad/branches/STABLE/ (1295 files in 115 dirs): merge trunk to STABLE from r36077 to HEAD r36450 |
| 04:31.51 | brlcad | hah, down to the wire.. nice! |
| 04:32.01 | brlcad | ~starseeker++ |
| 04:32.12 | yukonbob | this going to be a point-release? |
| 04:32.51 | brlcad | they're all point-something :) |
| 04:32.57 | starseeker | retreats for some sleep (die evil cold germs, die...) |
| 04:33.04 | yukonbob | :P pbfffffft |
| 04:33.16 | brlcad | starseeker: catch some rest this weekend finally/hopefully :) |
| 04:33.19 | brlcad | nice work |
| 04:33.29 | starseeker | thanks - you too! |
| 04:33.31 | brlcad | merge went a lot easier with those instructions? |
| 04:33.36 | starseeker | FAR easier |
| 04:33.41 | brlcad | great |
| 04:34.07 | starseeker | should send that to the subversion guys to add into their standard docs |
| 04:34.12 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:34.26 | starseeker | will probably reappear in ~20 hours or so |
| 04:34.36 | brlcad | the bad part is needing to manually keep track of your last merge point |
| 04:34.43 | brlcad | it should figure that part out |
| 04:35.23 | brlcad | understandable why it works the way it does, but from a usability standpoint, it can definitely be improved without breaking the philosophy |
| 04:36.32 | yukonbob | was shocked other day when somebody mentioned Tcl 8.5.0 came out ~2 years ago... which is ~ when I lost a grip on building brlcad on my machine -- now I only relive the glory days of spinning wireframes in my memory... |
| 04:36.58 | yukonbob | soon, I'll get it up/running again. |
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