| 00:42.36 | ``Erik | O.o |
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| 08:45.07 | brlcad | hi elena! |
| 11:49.27 | Yoshi47 | 34356:10 mged |
| 12:05.40 | brlcad | heh, point of diminishing returns :) |
| 12:18.33 | d-lo | mernin all. |
| 12:32.40 | starseeker | Yoshi47: I think that tesselation has probably reached the point where it will take less time to implement, test and run a better algorithum instead of letting that one finish ;-) |
| 12:33.01 | Yoshi47 | but.. but.. but.. |
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| 15:09.34 | ``Erik | yeh, wow, I'd call it, yoshi... looks like we might be doing an experimental 'marching cubes' style tesselator as an alternate path, that might be done before your nmg tesselate run O.O |
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| 15:19.24 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r36151 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spltest.c: Fixed a typo. |
| 16:34.00 | brlcad | or let it keep going and be the first to try the experimental one when it's ready in a couple months .. see which finishes first ;) |
| 16:34.57 | Ralith | ooh, new tesselation that soon? |
| 16:35.04 | Ralith | now *there's* motivation to get back on g3d |
| 16:36.02 | brlcad | needs to look for his old code |
| 16:38.22 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36152 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/ (Makefile.am dmtype.tcl tclIndex): stub out files for a command to change display manager types. |
| 16:39.07 | starseeker | notes that there is still no reply to his ogre posting... |
| 16:39.28 | yukonbob | happy monday #brlcad |
| 16:44.39 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36153 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/dmtype.tcl: Well, openmv LOOKS like the command to call for new dm setup but it's not displaying... |
| 16:50.26 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36154 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/csgbrep.cpp: OK, looks like csgbrep can run cleanly now - enable all except dsp (which works only if terra.dsp is in the same directory.) |
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| 17:37.41 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36155 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/dmtype.tcl: OK, this refreshes it - now it just crashes after trying to do anything. (arrrgh) |
| 17:55.20 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36156 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/dmtype.tcl: OK, at least it doesn't die now, but background color info is lost and it's hard to tell if the type really has been changed, plus fb_close_existing errors... |
| 18:19.09 | starseeker | chuckles - ifp->if_name is /dev/X and X24_interface.if_type is "24 bit X Window System (X11)" - fb_close_existing is doing a strcasecmp to see if those are the same |
| 18:19.12 | starseeker | uh, nooo... |
| 18:22.45 | starseeker | brlcad: what is the "right" way to handle a comparison like that? |
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| 19:03.39 | brlcad | it shouldn't be comparing if_name to if_type |
| 19:04.49 | brlcad | that could be a bug |
| 19:05.15 | brlcad | at a glance, looks like one, but would need to dive more deeply |
| 19:08.45 | Ralith | starseeker: ogre posting? |
| 19:09.32 | brlcad | yeah, I think the header is (now) wrong. used to be user->type and app->name .. but now they're name and description |
| 19:12.17 | brlcad | after four hours of research, phone calls, and more calls .. I finally found a replacement battery in stock. woot! (they have exactly 1) |
| 19:25.48 | d-lo | laptop battery? |
| 19:34.40 | brlcad | car |
| 19:35.24 | brlcad | drained it empty too many times, now it won't build a charge |
| 19:35.40 | d-lo | wow as in the brandy new car? |
| 19:35.50 | brlcad | yeah |
| 19:35.58 | brlcad | the stock battery is known for this |
| 19:36.13 | yukonbob | that's what you get for leaving the flux capacitor on w/o the car running... |
| 19:36.20 | d-lo | how is it that it was drained to zero capacity? Forget the lights or something? |
| 19:36.42 | brlcad | the alarm system drains it |
| 19:36.46 | brlcad | pretty quickly at that |
| 19:37.08 | d-lo | huh. Who'd a thunk. |
| 19:37.28 | yukonbob | modern cars. |
| 19:37.42 | brlcad | you have about two weeks on full charge on a new battery before the alarm and ECU will drain it dry |
| 19:38.10 | yukonbob | overheard a conversation about newer Mercedes having a firewire (!) connector available to the car if you break one of the taillights... |
| 19:38.15 | yukonbob | hasn't confirmed... |
| 19:38.20 | d-lo | and that is even with driving it? |
| 19:38.33 | brlcad | I hadn't driven it since thurs or friday |
| 19:39.03 | brlcad | and this is at least the third time to go dead, so I'm sure there has been crystalline buildup |
| 19:40.15 | d-lo | Not to knock that machine of yours, but the undersized capacity battery seems like a design flaw almost... |
| 19:41.32 | brlcad | not according to their principles -- it's all about track use; no reason you can't charge it every night in their mind |
| 19:41.59 | brlcad | stock is tradeoff "light" battery with a decent cold-crank |
| 19:42.11 | d-lo | heh, well I suppose that does make sense. |
| 19:42.22 | d-lo | whats the capacity/cca of the stock? |
| 19:42.28 | d-lo | its gotta be tiny :) |
| 19:42.45 | brlcad | if they had their druthers, I'm sure they'd opt for a voltphreak nano lithium |
| 19:43.39 | brlcad | but I aint paying a grand for a battery even if it is a sixth the weight :) |
| 19:43.42 | brlcad | tempting though |
| 19:43.46 | d-lo | heh, I'm sure :) |
| 19:43.51 | brlcad | it's not, like I said -- they went with a balance |
| 19:44.20 | brlcad | not too big, but barley big enough to be a weekly driver without having the alarm suck it dry |
| 19:44.56 | d-lo | lol, start keeping a spare battery in the passenger's seat :) |
| 19:45.09 | brlcad | kinda defeats the weight savings :) |
| 19:45.28 | brlcad | actually, the battery i'm getting is a little bigger, 6 lbs heavier |
| 19:45.38 | d-lo | dead battery kinda defeats the whole car thing :P |
| 19:45.55 | brlcad | and a solid 30% or so more capacity |
| 19:46.09 | d-lo | sounds like a good upgrade then. |
| 19:46.19 | starseeker | Ralith: http://www.ogre3d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52872&sid=eec749b9549d58752765d06e745084ba |
| 19:47.07 | brlcad | was going to get one of these.. but the only distributor is up in fallston and they're closed mondays (and I don't feel like waiting) http://www.sector111.com/handler.cfm?cat_id=20216&cat_id=20228&prod_id=1212&function=product |
| 19:47.54 | d-lo | 12AH? lordy... |
| 19:48.41 | d-lo | Why not just get a few packages of AA's and duck tape them together. a single AA has 2500 mAH ;) |
| 19:48.55 | brlcad | d-lo: here's the schedule of batteries that fit without "too" much hassle (almost all require a custom mount), http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f129/133373d1252964925-battery-choices-information-battery-schedule.jpg |
| 19:49.29 | brlcad | the top three are the stock versions (I have a variant of #2) |
| 19:50.52 | brlcad | iirc, the car drains about 35-40 mAH/s with the immobilizer and alarm on |
| 19:51.02 | d-lo | thats crazy man. |
| 19:51.10 | brlcad | that's cobra :) |
| 19:51.46 | brlcad | not really a lotus thing, just a high-end alarm .. the microwave system is probably the biggest drain |
| 19:52.34 | brlcad | (stick your hand in with the top off, alarm will go off) |
| 19:53.00 | brlcad | goes to pick up that battery, cyas |
| 19:57.43 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36157 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/dmtype.tcl: put colors back |
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| 20:23.51 | CIA-33 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r36158 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/ (dmtype.tcl help.tcl): update dmtype, add help |
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| 21:34.55 | starseeker | woot - dmtype set rtgl works with an rtgl enabled build :-) |
| 22:07.05 | ``Erik | O.O dead battery already? damn |
| 22:07.26 | ``Erik | glad I bought a german machine, not a british one :> |
| 22:19.05 | brlcad | ``Erik: I suspect the car sat on the dealer's lot dead for weeks |
| 22:19.50 | brlcad | it was dead before I test drove it, they had to quick-jump it :) |
| 22:27.48 | ``Erik | ah, so the battery got that one brutal deep cycle that screwed it up? |
| 22:28.27 | brlcad | no matter now, this new battery is a beast |
| 22:28.49 | brlcad | probably |
| 22:28.58 | brlcad | plus it was a wet battery, not sealed |
| 22:30.13 | ``Erik | well... http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/show/powerlaps.shtml so ptbtbtbbtt |
| 22:30.14 | ``Erik | :D |
| 22:30.48 | brlcad | the alternator probably boiled off a fair bit of the acid water recharging it from dry, could hear is sloshing (seemed more than usual) .. |
| 22:31.15 | ``Erik | hm, wonder if the battery woulda been salvagable... *shrug* |
| 22:31.25 | ``Erik | gotta pay to play, batteries are cheap :) |
| 22:31.33 | brlcad | was looking at the exige-s's supercharger just yesterday.. |
| 22:32.11 | brlcad | could possibly get it and installed for less than 5g |
| 22:32.27 | brlcad | yeah, they are cheap |
| 22:32.58 | brlcad | well this new one wasn't (the sales dude even balked) but it's all relative and this problem shouldn't happen again |
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| 22:36.17 | ``Erik | hm, my next few mods are going to be more suspension tuning |
| 22:36.36 | ``Erik | ya just don't need power if you never have to slow down... :D |
| 22:37.00 | ``Erik | strut braces, mmmmebbe coilovers |
| 22:37.13 | ``Erik | the shortthrow shifter is nice |
| 22:37.55 | ``Erik | amusingly, the black one was all sorts of souped up when I bought it... race pedals, short-throw, massive ceramic brakes on the front, ... |
| 22:38.12 | ``Erik | <-- is just too much of a puss to push it |
| 23:15.40 | starseeker | winces - rtgl is... rather brittle at the moment |
| 23:29.10 | ``Erik | heh |
| 23:49.49 | ``Erik | cranks up barry mcguire O.o |
| 23:58.45 | brlcad | starseeker: heh, you should try toggling X and ogl first :) |
| 23:59.05 | brlcad | rtgl is more than brittle .. unlike the other two dm's, it's also tightly tied into mged's update loop |
| 23:59.42 | brlcad | nifty, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/04/AR2009100402533.html?hpid=sec-politics |
