| 00:04.04 | Yoshi477 | starseeker, i have a N810 |
| 00:21.27 | starseeker | Yoshi477: cool - how do you like it? |
| 00:21.36 | Yoshi477 | i like it alot |
| 00:21.51 | Yoshi477 | if i had money i would wish for 3g on it! |
| 00:21.59 | Yoshi477 | gps does what i want it to do, |
| 00:22.05 | starseeker | sweet |
| 00:22.08 | Yoshi477 | browser not bad for speed |
| 00:22.12 | Yoshi477 | email pretty good |
| 00:22.19 | Yoshi477 | wireless conect real good |
| 00:22.23 | Yoshi477 | games good |
| 00:22.27 | Yoshi477 | can run scummvm |
| 00:22.39 | Yoshi477 | low memory not nice though |
| 00:22.52 | starseeker | nods |
| 00:22.54 | Yoshi477 | and it can't play flac! |
| 00:23.20 | Yoshi477 | mounts smb and nfs good |
| 00:23.45 | Yoshi477 | mplayer is nice on it, although can skip on movement scenes on fullscreen |
| 00:23.54 | Yoshi477 | so i watch not in full screen and it seems to be better |
| 00:24.10 | Yoshi477 | i don't know about the n900 though |
| 00:24.27 | Yoshi477 | does it use skype for calls or does it actually work on the phone company! |
| 00:25.01 | Yoshi477 | 600 euros! |
| 00:25.08 | Yoshi477 | thats like 800 CAD |
| 00:25.11 | Yoshi477 | if not 900 |
| 00:25.35 | Yoshi477 | how much does an iphone cost out there |
| 00:35.41 | Yoshi477 | anyways cya, |
| 00:35.52 | Yoshi477 | im looking at Mer for the N810, looks cool, |
| 02:03.06 | starseeker | Yoshi477: sorry, doing things |
| 02:06.23 | starseeker | yeah, phones are expensive when you don't get them subsidized |
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| 15:03.16 | yukonbob | Yoshi477: n810 was being blown out by Amazon for less than 300 lately; n900 is out now... |
| 15:03.54 | yukonbob | sees than Yoshi477 knows the n900 is out :P |
| 15:04.19 | starseeker | yukonbob: where are you seeing < 300? I'm seeing over $400 here |
| 15:04.39 | yukonbob | hrmm... few weeks ago I -bought- one for < 300 |
| 15:04.49 | yukonbob | was at amazon.co |
| 15:04.52 | starseeker | is jealous |
| 15:04.59 | yukonbob | *.com |
| 15:05.17 | starseeker | there are a couple used ones for < 300... |
| 15:05.34 | yukonbob | had to have a friend in US receive it, because amazon wouldn't ship to Canada, and amazon.ca didn't carry it. |
| 15:06.18 | Yoshi477 | i got an invisiable shield on mine! |
| 15:06.53 | yukonbob | !Gah --- they're showing as $500 now |
| 15:07.08 | yukonbob | too bad :( |
| 15:07.09 | starseeker | If the N900 is a phone too, I'm going to have to start working on ways to justify getting one |
| 15:07.22 | starseeker | Nokia deserves support for what they're doing |
| 15:08.12 | yukonbob | starseeker: it is |
| 15:08.50 | starseeker | not an open hardware phone of course, but certainly a step in the right direction |
| 15:09.40 | yukonbob | no, not an openmoko, but largely open platform *(OS-wise) |
| 15:10.18 | yukonbob | "Maemo" linux + Gtk ("Hildon") in a "Fremantle" window manager |
| 15:10.59 | starseeker | and they're going with Qt for the N900? |
| 15:11.39 | yukonbob | oops -- "Fremantle" != wm -- is code name for Maemon v5 |
| 15:12.01 | yukonbob | starseeker: I believe it's still Gtk for n900 |
| 15:12.32 | Yoshi477 | looking to get this first! http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=1002947 |
| 15:13.01 | yukonbob | http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle#Changes |
| 15:13.35 | starseeker | Ooo, an openmoko for $250... |
| 15:14.07 | yukonbob | L00nucks journal had a review of the OpenMoko few months ago, and said the phone basically sucks. |
| 15:14.27 | yukonbob | it was a neat hacking platform, but the call quality was poor |
| 15:14.28 | starseeker | yeah, I know |
| 15:14.36 | yukonbob | and the stylus was laughable |
| 15:14.39 | starseeker | that's REALLY too bad |
| 15:14.43 | yukonbob | nods |
| 15:14.52 | starseeker | if they would just do a good phone, I don't care about all the gizmos |
| 15:15.07 | yukonbob | I was following the OpenMoko project for some time, and thought it would be my entrance into this new size of computing |
| 15:15.11 | yukonbob | *new to me |
| 15:15.11 | starseeker | "do one thing, do it right - the Unix phone, the Unix way" |
| 15:15.16 | yukonbob | heh |
| 15:15.40 | starseeker | wants one anyway for the sheer novelty |
| 15:16.02 | starseeker | take it into a Verizon Wireless store and see if there's a matter/antimatter reaction |
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| 15:18.19 | starseeker | if they could just get a good phone going, someone could start up a nonprofit organization to spread wireless coverage equipment and do cell phone and internet data via phone right |
| 15:21.06 | yukonbob | that's what /me hoped to tap into w/ the n810 (mind-you, only with wireless, not cellular)... n900 next. |
| 15:21.45 | yukonbob | starseeker: how's it going, by the way -- haven't talked for some time ;) |
| 15:22.03 | starseeker | going good - just got new house, so preparing to move |
| 15:22.16 | yukonbob | !w00t |
| 15:22.25 | starseeker | projects galore :-/ |
| 15:22.55 | starseeker | house has, among other details, bad wood paneling and a mirror wall downstairs |
| 15:23.12 | yukonbob | you mean house projects, a la dry walling, new fixtures, painting, etc.? |
| 15:23.16 | starseeker | carpet everywhere, relatively cheap finishings |
| 15:23.19 | starseeker | yep |
| 15:23.31 | yukonbob | great. |
| 15:23.45 | starseeker | 'course, if it were better finished we couldn't have afforded it |
| 15:23.54 | yukonbob | has had a few of those (and continues to have them) for last few years |
| 15:24.10 | starseeker | as it is it's in a decent location neighborhood, so only the downturn let us in even now |
| 15:24.51 | yukonbob | sounds like a good purchase: get the worst house in the best neighbourhood |
| 15:24.58 | starseeker | will go for the "sweat equity" approach to house redo |
| 15:25.04 | yukonbob | nods |
| 15:25.06 | starseeker | yeah, pretty much |
| 15:25.24 | yukonbob | starseeker: what city? |
| 15:25.50 | starseeker | not that it's a bad house - my favorites when we were hunting were a farm house with the floor sagging in the middle and a house so trashed my fiance and I had to go back outside |
| 15:25.54 | starseeker | Fallston, MD |
| 15:26.34 | starseeker | our realtor was brave and went downstairs in the latter house - came out looking a bit pale |
| 15:26.41 | yukonbob | heh |
| 15:27.03 | yukonbob | starseeker: were you living in eastern Canada before? |
| 15:27.10 | starseeker | nope, Baltimre |
| 15:27.16 | starseeker | er Baltimore |
| 15:27.17 | yukonbob | hrmm |
| 15:27.26 | yukonbob | wonders why I associated you with Canada |
| 15:27.32 | yukonbob | oh well |
| 15:27.34 | starseeker | raises eyebrow |
| 15:28.00 | starseeker | dunno - maybe I'm not conservative enough to be seen as US? ;-P |
| 15:28.10 | yukonbob | == Canada; if you need a western CAD address to crash, lemme know ;) |
| 15:28.17 | yukonbob | starseeker: hehe |
| 15:29.06 | starseeker | Fallson on the whole is seen as a "good" place to live, so a lot of folks didn't bother doing much updating to their decor |
| 15:29.41 | starseeker | folks we bought from got caught by the downturn, I'm sure - traditionally they would have gotten a pretty penny for this place without doing any updating |
| 15:30.14 | starseeker | as it was, they were on the market a year without any offers |
| 15:30.24 | starseeker | that's a good position to be in as a buyer :-) |
| 15:31.15 | yukonbob | nods |
| 15:31.35 | starseeker | I attempted to follow my training and look past the superficial |
| 15:31.35 | yukonbob | that housing downturn was not so present in Canada, in my experience. |
| 15:31.53 | yukonbob | housing sales/starts down, but prices didn't fall too much. |
| 15:32.01 | yukonbob | best side effect was lower interest rates |
| 15:32.07 | starseeker | well, that's a blessing |
| 15:32.32 | starseeker | in the US, there were a few super overheated areas and a general insane price climb |
| 15:33.01 | starseeker | East Coast has always sucked, but Arizona (of all places) really went nuts for a while |
| 15:33.50 | starseeker | knew not to buy as soon as he saw a news article saying mortgage companies were looking for creative new ways to get people loans and get them into houses |
| 15:34.31 | starseeker | they deserve to get smacked, the problem is they're dragging down the whole economy with 'em |
| 15:35.14 | starseeker | loves it when he hears a radio show saying "we only lost 200,000 jobs this month - the rate is slowing!" |
| 15:35.42 | starseeker | uh, yeah - 'cause they're running out of jobs to cut |
| 15:48.16 | Yoshi477 | == southern ontario! if someone need to pitch a tent! |
| 16:26.42 | yukonbob | Yoshi477: where? |
| 16:26.53 | yukonbob | was of Toronto for ~2.5 years |
| 16:27.00 | Yoshi477 | fergus! |
| 16:30.50 | yukonbob | <-- doesn't know where that is -- will need to break out a map ;) |
| 16:32.31 | Yoshi477 | north of guelph |
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| 23:27.55 | PcWarlock | hi all |
| 23:28.29 | louipc | yo |
| 23:29.01 | PcWarlock | - Ghost |
| 23:29.09 | PcWarlock | ggsdf |
| 23:29.18 | louipc | mmhm |
| 23:30.29 | PcWarlock | hi |
| 23:30.33 | PcWarlock | how r u |
| 23:30.53 | louipc | good. how are you? |
| 23:31.32 | PcWarlock | thanks |
| 23:31.39 | PcWarlock | fine |
| 23:31.49 | PcWarlock | where r u from |
| 23:32.46 | louipc | canada |
| 23:32.55 | PcWarlock | well |
| 23:39.30 | PcWarlock | -cmuse |
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| 23:47.22 | cmuse | hi all |
| 23:47.52 | cmuse | why not anybody say something |
| 23:47.54 | cmuse | ? |
| 23:48.10 | cmuse | :) |
| 23:49.00 | louipc | sleepy |
| 23:49.33 | cmuse | yes |
| 23:49.35 | cmuse | :) |