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| 02:20.44 | starseeker | possibly the most absurd vehicle I have ever seen: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hummer-H3-Limousine-2008-H3-PINK-HUMMER-LIMOUSINE-LIMO-LIMOSUITE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem35a28c1bacQQitemZ230360357804QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks |
| 02:23.51 | ``Erik | smells like a "daddy's rich" car |
| 02:24.17 | starseeker | that's up (or down) there with the Oscar Myer hot dog car |
| 02:24.33 | ``Erik | hey now, the weinermobile is COOL |
| 02:25.57 | ``Erik | how else do you get disturbing scenarios like http://wizbangpop.com/images/2009/07/wienermobile%20crash.jpg ? :D |
| 02:26.38 | starseeker | oh my |
| 02:26.57 | starseeker | doesn't see an ex-military Hummer on ebay... hmm... |
| 02:27.17 | starseeker | thought they sold a few in the early days before GM figured out there was a civilian market... |
| 02:30.53 | ``Erik | probably collectors items now |
| 02:31.17 | ``Erik | wonder how many of those 'fall off the truck' O.o |
| 02:37.54 | starseeker | Hehe, well, this might be a decent runner up: http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2552645&convertTo=USD |
| 02:38.37 | starseeker | Hmm, opening bid $150... |
| 02:38.54 | ``Erik | heh, looks oddly familiar |
| 02:39.16 | starseeker | talk about an awesome way to update our model... |
| 02:40.16 | starseeker | imagines pulling up to work in that thing... |
| 02:40.25 | starseeker | "no, really, it's my own truck!" |
| 02:41.07 | starseeker | wonders what the gas milage is |
| 02:41.18 | starseeker | I suppose if you have to ask you can't afford to run it... |
| 02:42.09 | starseeker | maybe we can convince Bob he needs it for something |
| 02:45.51 | ``Erik | looks like around 6mpg |
| 02:46.05 | starseeker | winces |
| 02:46.17 | starseeker | I know - design the world's first hybrid m35 |
| 02:46.32 | starseeker | it can't be any more pointless than the pink stretch hummer limo |
| 02:46.39 | ``Erik | max highway speed goes between 45 and 60 depending on grade and shtuff |
| 02:47.04 | starseeker | grins at the idea of going to yard sales in that thing... |
| 02:48.05 | ``Erik | http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/mil/m35/mileage/mileage.html |
| 02:50.48 | starseeker | cool |
| 02:51.04 | ``Erik | seems that's the c^3 variant, has a hugeassed box on the back |
| 02:51.07 | starseeker | or, if that's too fuel efficient... http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2565791&convertTo=USD |
| 02:51.44 | starseeker | nods - I think 55mph is low enough that it's up in the air whether weight or wind resistance is the major factor |
| 02:53.20 | ``Erik | I d'no, a 10' brick at 55mph is going to have a lot of force on it |
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| 02:54.19 | starseeker | ah, yeah, that tall you're probably right |
| 02:54.35 | starseeker | shouldn't have wandered onto this site - cool stuff |
| 02:54.40 | starseeker | http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=2550019 |
| 02:55.08 | ``Erik | 210hp and tops at 60, even if it were engine rpm limited, it'd have to have a lot of wind resistance to need that much hp |
| 02:56.17 | starseeker | must be for hauling |
| 02:56.18 | ``Erik | (hard finding good info on the m35, apparently infiniti calls one of their cars that) |
| 02:56.57 | starseeker | bemusedly wonders if gcam could be made to work with that milling machine... |
| 02:57.36 | ``Erik | how's this for a sleek street machine.. imagine the awesome CD and such a small front area.. http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/mil/m35/first/319commo_truck_large.jpg |
| 02:58.38 | starseeker | hehehe |
| 02:59.25 | starseeker | would be worth renting one just to park it next to the BRLCADmobile for a photo |
| 02:59.34 | ``Erik | heh |
| 03:01.10 | ``Erik | d'no why you'd want a collection of slow vehicles in a single picture, though O:-) |
| 03:03.43 | starseeker | was thinking - m35 truck == current GUI, Lotus == intended new GUI |
| 03:04.21 | starseeker | ick - they apparently sell office equipment by the pallet |
| 03:06.57 | starseeker | blinks at music CDs in one lot |
| 03:07.04 | starseeker | bet there's a good story behind that one |
| 03:12.23 | starseeker | ooh, heck-yeah http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=2509637&convertTo=USD&tid=GLSPPR7932&cm_re=1-_-hotlots-_-row3col3 |
| 03:16.06 | starseeker | is still a physics nerd at heart |
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| 04:20.35 | mvm92 | anyone know any good beginner tutorials for brlcad? |
| 04:55.19 | talcite | hey guys. I need a bit of help with the build process. Is there a part of the program that's being built against libwdb? |
| 04:55.37 | talcite | I'm having build errors after rpaths were removed |
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| 13:28.29 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r35509 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/ (7 files): Added a threaded CommandParser and an interface to support abstraction of the object CommandParser passes its commands to. Additionally, added socket Connect and Disconnect commands into AdminControlPanel. |
| 13:32.03 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r35510 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/CommandParser.h: reduced visibility of copy constructor and internal command checking function |
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| 14:23.56 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35511 10/rt^3/trunk/src/ (10 files in 10 dirs): support "out of dir" builds |
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| 15:38.45 | ``Erik | nice. in rt^3, cmake claims qmake cannot be found, but there it is O.o |
| 15:38.52 | d-lo | lawl |
| 15:39.15 | d-lo | the classic helpful post: Works for me! |
| 15:39.42 | d-lo | what flava of cmake? |
| 15:40.04 | ``Erik | cmake version 2.6-patch 4 |
| 15:40.29 | ``Erik | ah, it's search for qmake 4, but doesn't announce it the messages |
| 15:40.49 | ``Erik | on bsd, ois fails to find Xlib.h (it's /usr/local/include/X11/Xlib.h, which confuses things) |
| 15:41.02 | d-lo | hrm. |
| 15:41.09 | d-lo | and ois is an ogre dep? |
| 15:41.27 | ``Erik | src/other/ois/ |
| 15:41.45 | d-lo | right. I think the only reason its there is because of ogre. methinks |
| 15:41.59 | ``Erik | comments it out |
| 15:42.33 | d-lo | are you builing src/g3d or src/other/ogre? |
| 15:42.44 | d-lo | s/builing/building/ |
| 15:43.18 | ``Erik | toplevel |
| 15:44.03 | ``Erik | will fight it some more O.o |
| 15:45.32 | ``Erik | nutty, it actually build |
| 15:45.35 | ``Erik | built |
| 15:45.46 | d-lo | in the toplevel CMakeLists.txt, add '/usr/local/include/' to the 'INCLUDE_SEARCH_PATHS thingy |
| 15:46.09 | d-lo | mebbe that will help it find x11. |
| 15:46.25 | d-lo | or did it build it with ois already? |
| 15:47.35 | ``Erik | I commented it out |
| 15:47.44 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35512 10/rt^3/trunk/src/other/CMakeLists.txt: comment out ois. Not needed for GS, and fails where X is in /usr/local/ |
| 15:47.48 | ``Erik | it smells very not unix friendly... it's all "linux" crud |
| 15:48.07 | ``Erik | damnit, svn is retarded, I ^c'd that at the very beginning and it still went and did it |
| 15:48.21 | ``Erik | heh, and it claims that commit failed. |
| 15:48.35 | d-lo | awesome. |
| 15:51.41 | ``Erik | heh, it saved it remote but forgot to update the local notion of what exists remotely... transaction fail... |
| 15:51.58 | ``Erik | goes luddite and bunkers in the land of cvs and automake O.o |
| 15:54.52 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r35513 10/rt^3/trunk/CMakeLists.txt: added some search paths for lib/ and include/ detection. |
| 15:59.56 | ``Erik | doesn't seem to fix it O.o |
| 16:00.10 | d-lo | k |
| 16:00.30 | d-lo | wonders why it works here.... |
| 16:02.33 | d-lo | so your Xlib.h is in /usr/local/include/X11 and not /usr/include/X11 ? |
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| 17:01.14 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 17:02.15 | ``Erik | historically, /usr/lib was only for system libs, X would go in like /opt/X/lib or /usr/X11R6 or even /etc/X/ ... linux craps everything in the same place :/ |
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| 17:16.41 | louipc | etc fir libs! |
| 17:20.11 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r35514 10/rt^3/trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Removal of antiquated classes |
| 17:20.35 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r35515 10/rt^3/trunk/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Implementation of netProto handshaking. |
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| 17:25.20 | ``Erik | etc used to be a misc dir, not a config dir... :) |
| 17:30.14 | talcite_ | brlcad: ping? |
| 17:40.11 | ``Erik | talcite_work: libwdb? it's a part of BRL-CAD and used by many things... |
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| 18:41.44 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35516 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/cut.c: fix lame bug, make cut work again. |
| 18:42.27 | talcite | do you guys know when the next release is likely to come out? |
| 18:42.41 | louipc | 'soon' :D |
| 18:43.54 | talcite | haha alright. No rush. I need to weed out all of these rpath problems |
| 18:44.24 | louipc | I guess your packaging will be made slightly easier then eh? |
| 18:44.52 | talcite | well, it looks better if I'm packaging a release than a SVN revision |
| 18:45.05 | talcite | but it's not a huge issue, you see SVN packages sometimes in the repos |
| 18:45.24 | talcite | what's more pressing though is that rttherm is using rpaths and won't compile without them |
| 18:45.28 | louipc | I hear that itcl/tk will it into mainline tcl/tk |
| 18:45.34 | louipc | that will be great |
| 18:45.38 | talcite | cool. Yeah |
| 18:45.54 | louipc | yea |
| 18:57.02 | ``Erik | next release should be "any day now", brlcad was trying to push it out before siggraph, but didn't quite manage *shrug* and now I imagine he's in a coma recouping |
| 18:57.17 | ``Erik | isn't exactly sure what the stoppers are, or woulda done it last week |
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| 20:45.42 | elena | hi, all. |
| 20:53.18 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35517 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/cut.c: get visible line rendering again. |
| 20:58.02 | CIA-38 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35518 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: adrt split view cutting plane is back. knock it off the list! |
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| 22:55.09 | ``Erik | huh, a seggie |
| 22:55.27 | starseeker | segway? ;-) |
| 22:56.55 | ``Erik | heh, didja see paul grahams essay about segways? and the ensuing nerdrama? |
| 22:57.27 | starseeker | no - where's that? |
| 22:57.49 | starseeker | oh, nice work with the cuting plane |
| 22:58.07 | ``Erik | um, paulgraham.com/essays/ ? :) |
| 22:58.18 | ``Erik | was on hn a bit ago |
| 22:58.39 | ``Erik | (all things pg are on hn... irritating how much cocksucking goes on there) |
| 22:58.55 | ``Erik | yeah, heh.. the cutting plane... turns out that (a+b)*c != a+(b*c) |
| 22:58.57 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 22:59.58 | starseeker | ow |
| 23:00.08 | starseeker | when did that sneak in? |
| 23:00.26 | starseeker | wants to see a demo :-)) |
| 23:01.29 | ``Erik | um, there were a bunch of a[0] += c*b[0]; etc, and I grabbed VADD2SCALE() not paying attention to the parens |
| 23:01.35 | ``Erik | file was riddle with those, musta had an off day |
| 23:01.39 | starseeker | ah |
| 23:01.47 | starseeker | can I run it yet? |
| 23:01.56 | starseeker | looks for binary... |
| 23:01.58 | ``Erik | install the latest brlcad, install isst, put ktank.g in /tmp/ and run isst |
| 23:02.20 | ``Erik | left click zooms in and out, right click rotates, middle click pans |
| 23:02.25 | starseeker | is isst in its own tree? |
| 23:02.28 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 23:02.31 | ``Erik | requires gtk+ |
| 23:02.52 | starseeker | ah |
| 23:03.19 | ``Erik | also requires /usr/brlcad/include and /usr/brlcad/lib/librt.{so,dylib,dll} |
| 23:04.22 | ``Erik | (if I recall my winderz, it SHOULD compile just fine with msvc or mingw, but if you happen to know the fu to try to make it go into distributed mode, it'll fail due to WSAStartup() not being called) |
| 23:06.26 | ``Erik | (given the cracking of the hard outer shell, btw, I would like a chatter session among the BRL-CAD cabal in the very near future...) |
| 23:06.49 | jdoliner | hey can anyone explain to me how to use user values in opennurbs |
| 23:07.30 | ``Erik | file:line ? |
| 23:08.08 | ``Erik | <-- doesn't know, but is good at mindlessly jabbering, things he managed to help indianlarry with a fugly c++ oddity in spite of being anti-c++ :) |
| 23:09.26 | jdoliner | you can find them in opennurbs_x.h line:338 |
| 23:09.36 | jdoliner | there are of type ON_U |
| 23:09.43 | jdoliner | which I can't find declared anywhere |
| 23:12.19 | starseeker | jdoliner: what are you trying to do? |
| 23:12.27 | starseeker | is it something not in opennurbs_userdata.h? |
| 23:13.13 | starseeker | perhaps example_userdata/example_userdata.cpp has something helpful? |
| 23:13.21 | jdoliner | thanks let me check that |
| 23:15.55 | jdoliner | I could be really wrong but I think user data is a different thing |
| 23:16.06 | starseeker | isn't sure |
| 23:16.25 | jdoliner | m_user is supposed to be just a scratch field on some of their classes |
| 23:16.31 | ``Erik | um |
| 23:16.39 | jdoliner | all I'm doing is setting it to a number and then checking which number I set it to |
| 23:16.45 | starseeker | I see it used only in brep.h and brep.cpp |
| 23:17.16 | starseeker | what are you trying to achieve? |
| 23:18.40 | jdoliner | basically I have an array of ON_X_EVENTS that record intersections between a pair of 2dcurves and the respective trims in the faces they're going to go into |
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| 23:18.55 | jdoliner | I use that field to record which curve the intersection occurred in |
| 23:19.04 | jdoliner | curve1 or curve2 |
| 23:19.09 | starseeker | Hmm. I doubt that's the right place... |
| 23:19.11 | ``Erik | ok, it IS compiled, must be a generated symbol |
| 23:20.05 | jdoliner | the error i'm getting is when i do m_user == 0 |
| 23:20.05 | starseeker | jdoliner: any reason you can't hang that info on the BRL-CAD primitive as an attribute? |
| 23:20.43 | ``Erik | ON_U is cooked up as a union |
| 23:20.56 | jdoliner | oh |
| 23:21.02 | jdoliner | so if I do m_user.int |
| 23:21.08 | jdoliner | then it will cast it as an int |
| 23:21.15 | ``Erik | opennurbs_define.h:204 |
| 23:22.07 | jdoliner | aha |
| 23:22.18 | jdoliner | that should do it then |
| 23:22.23 | ``Erik | doesn't answer starseekers question, though |
| 23:22.26 | jdoliner | I'm not sure how I managed to miss that with my search |
| 23:22.27 | jdoliner | yes |
| 23:22.37 | ``Erik | that's how to fix it, but ... is that REALLY what you want to do? |
| 23:22.44 | jdoliner | is there a brl-cad ON_X_EVENT primitive? |
| 23:22.55 | jdoliner | i'm a little foggy on what you meant by that |
| 23:23.44 | ``Erik | is unfamiliar with "ON_X_EVENT" |
| 23:24.03 | ``Erik | translate to non-opennurbs, please? :) |
| 23:24.05 | jdoliner | ON_X_EVENT is a record of an intersection between 2 curves |
| 23:24.14 | jdoliner | or between a curve and a surface |
| 23:24.34 | jdoliner | it has all the relevant information bundled up in it |
| 23:25.00 | jdoliner | being the points of intersection themselves |
| 23:25.07 | ``Erik | ok, so literally "opennurbs cross event"? |
| 23:25.08 | jdoliner | the paramaters they occurred at |
| 23:25.14 | jdoliner | yeah |
| 23:25.26 | ``Erik | my initial reading was "if something happens in X windows" :) |
| 23:25.48 | ``Erik | (erm, X windowing system, or X... don't flame me) |
| 23:25.50 | jdoliner | yeah, I actually thought that to at fiest |
| 23:26.22 | jdoliner | so they also have a field m_user |
| 23:26.36 | ``Erik | well, there ya is... it's a raw union... those're dangerous as they lack any kinda magic to do checking on :/ |
| 23:26.37 | jdoliner | which is just a scratch field for anything you might want to use it for |
| 23:27.01 | ``Erik | a common C pattern is struct poo_s { int magic; union v { ... } }; |
| 23:27.33 | ``Erik | then you can switch(mypoo.magic){ case SOMETHING: mypoo.v.something = x; ... } |
| 23:28.03 | jdoliner | yeah I agree it's dangerous, here's why I think it will be okay |
| 23:28.58 | ``Erik | *shrug* ya don't have to defend yourself |
| 23:29.05 | ``Erik | I'm just pointing out the danger :) |
| 23:29.06 | jdoliner | these values are all set within a class and then used read out by that same class, the ON_X_EVENTS are never touched by outside functions |
| 23:29.21 | jdoliner | oh but I like to |
| 23:29.46 | jdoliner | I'd defend myself to my goldfish or something if I didn't have real people |
| 23:29.56 | jdoliner | I always wind up noticing flaws that way |
| 23:30.47 | ``Erik | if you grep the BRL-CAD, you'll find quite a few instances of goto... *shrug* personally, I'm reluctant to permit them in anything I touch, but sometimes you gotta go use something that is generally considered evil |
| 23:31.02 | ``Erik | s/,/ src,/ |
| 23:31.55 | ``Erik | (naked unions stink to me, it's damn cheap to shove a union in a struct with a type field) |
| 23:41.08 | ``Erik | starseeker: did you manage to get it up and running? |
| 23:43.15 | starseeker | nah, I'm on a mac which (afaik) has no gtk install |
| 23:43.25 | starseeker | will try it at home |
| 23:46.19 | ``Erik | ah, bummer |
| 23:46.47 | starseeker | ``Erik: so now you're essentiall as robust as our tesselation? |
| 23:46.48 | ``Erik | you're still at the office? |
| 23:46.52 | starseeker | yep |
| 23:46.57 | ``Erik | um, for the most part, I think... |
| 23:47.07 | ``Erik | there're still modes which'll call bu_bomb |
| 23:47.09 | starseeker | just got here not too long ago - it's been a crazy day |
| 23:47.20 | ``Erik | use bobs linux box? :) |
| 23:47.24 | starseeker | heh |
| 23:47.59 | ``Erik | I want to re-write teh gui to use tk and libfb, so I can put it right in BRL-CAD :/ |
| 23:48.14 | starseeker | nods |
| 23:48.20 | starseeker | see if you can integrate it with Archer |
| 23:48.30 | ``Erik | and enable a plugin system that sends the "mode specific" panel via tk across the wire |
| 23:48.33 | starseeker | ttk widgets Suck (slightly) Less (tm) |
| 23:50.25 | ``Erik | (frankly, it's neat and all, but I"d like to get it spooled where someone else is dicking with it and I can go do other things...) |
