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| 10:40.43 | ``Erik | blahhhh |
| 11:44.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35160 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: wim reports rtweight crashing on windows. unclear as to the cause but have narrowed it down and seems to be during view_init where .density file is parsed. |
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| 12:59.41 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35161 10/brlcad/trunk/ (BUGS NEWS src/rt/viewweight.c): |
| 12:59.43 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: thanks to a report from Wim Bokkers, sf # 2822415 (rtweight crashes on Windows), |
| 12:59.45 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: rtweight should no longer crash on windows or elsewhere. the problem was an |
| 12:59.47 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: assumption in rtweight's view_init() that the HOME and PWD environment variables |
| 12:59.49 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: are always set. When they are unset, we end up with null pointer dereferences |
| 13:00.08 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: and crashing. |
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| 13:06.50 | ``Erik | irritating. |
| 13:07.29 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r35162 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: |
| 13:07.31 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: make sure there aren't any other bad getenv assumptions of non-nullity in the |
| 13:07.33 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: code. shold also see if there are any patters that warrant a generalized |
| 13:07.35 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: interface for finding standard resource locations (home dir, current dir, |
| 13:07.37 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: brlcad-bin dir, brlcad-data dir, etc) |
| 13:14.13 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35163 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (Makefile.am doc/rise.txt rise/): omnomnom (remove old RISE stuff.) |
| 13:16.12 | ``Erik | has a server sitting with a screen that says "No keyboard detected. Press F1 to continue." |
| 13:16.16 | ``Erik | stupid pc crap |
| 13:16.52 | _clock_ | ``Erik: maybe they mean Formula One? |
| 13:18.19 | starseeker | must say he is impressed with the lineup of projects on the FLOSS interview list |
| 13:18.26 | ``Erik | heh, that'd be amusing, but what they actually mean is that the people who put it together are *cue censor beeping for 5 minutes of excessive vulgarity* |
| 13:21.42 | louipc | starseeker: what's that list? |
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| 14:04.42 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35164 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (5 files in 2 dirs): eliminate server side MySQL stuff. |
| 14:10.42 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35165 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/load_g.c: remove dead code |
| 14:21.25 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35166 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (22 files in 2 dirs): collapse all the texture_*.h headers |
| 14:34.43 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35167 10/isst/trunk/src/gui.c: gut the MySQL geometry load stuff |
| 14:45.56 | starseeker | louipc: OpenSolaris, Inkscape, Cinelerra, Blender, OpenMoko, Xen, Bug Labs, XBMC, Rockbox... |
| 14:46.08 | starseeker | and soon, BRL-CAD :-) |
| 14:48.10 | ``Erik | url? |
| 14:52.36 | starseeker | http://twit.tv/floss |
| 14:52.54 | starseeker | oh, BZFlag not BRL-CAD |
| 14:52.59 | starseeker | my mistake |
| 14:53.42 | starseeker | http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pYAJMbVobYCTro_z4LGo3ZQ |
| 14:55.39 | starseeker | They're trying to get OpenStreetMaps, Stellarium, WINE... |
| 14:55.42 | starseeker | wow |
| 14:56.38 | starseeker | should suggest Maxima... |
| 14:57.43 | ``Erik | ya like being laughed at that much? :D *duck* |
| 14:57.54 | starseeker | is used to it |
| 14:58.01 | starseeker | hey, I didn't suggest Axiom... |
| 15:35.56 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r35168 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Mods to support undo operations for the _GLOBAL object in Archer. |
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| 15:37.39 | louipc | haha bzflag is really popular eh? |
| 16:25.47 | brlcad | starseeker: I did get to talk (briefly) about BRL-CAD |
| 16:26.37 | brlcad | louipc: yeah, and pretty well-known |
| 16:26.53 | brlcad | everyone has a warm spot in their heart for the lil tanks |
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| 16:50.48 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r35169 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/copy.c: Free color table before importing another to avoid the blather. |
| 16:51.20 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r35170 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Added a few comments. |
| 17:07.40 | ``Erik | *burp* |
| 17:07.50 | brlcad | mm.. hungry now |
| 17:07.57 | brlcad | should get some nom nom |
| 17:08.07 | ``Erik | didn't know you were in until I saw your car on the way out, we hit green turtle |
| 17:08.15 | brlcad | darn |
| 17:08.40 | brlcad | you probably shouldn't hit turtles |
| 17:08.59 | ``Erik | had donatello with a side of raphael |
| 17:09.13 | ``Erik | teenage mutant ninja hors devours |
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| 18:30.21 | starseeker | brlcad: around? |
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| 18:46.45 | brlcad | starseeker: yes |
| 19:04.42 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35171 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/load_g.c: add tie calls |
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| 19:16.34 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35172 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (Makefile.am slave/load_g.c): need to install texture_internal.h ... |
| 19:17.25 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r35173 10/isst/trunk/src/gui.c: don't try to set sensitivity on non-existant widgets. |
| 19:38.59 | brlcad | ``Erik: any luck with swiss cheese? |
| 19:39.18 | brlcad | i just hit the same painting algorithm bug, index of 256 |
| 19:39.37 | brlcad | not the first time that's come up -- I documented it in BUGS a couple years ago |
| 19:41.49 | starseeker | WOOOO-HOOO |
| 19:42.02 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r35174 10/brlcad/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): YES. Got the bounding box building to respect the trimming - the openbook is now centered properly in the default raytrace (not to mention the surface tree no longer has unneeded bounding boxes.) |
| 19:43.17 | brlcad | starseeker: awesome hehe |
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| 20:53.22 | ``Erik | no with the swiss cheese, get bus faults here and there, got busy with other stuff |
| 20:53.30 | ``Erik | *shrug* |
| 21:13.52 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r35175 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Changed queueing mechanism: now models get queue for BRLCAD processing only if the file changed. |
| 21:30.34 | Ralith | ``Erik: did you ever get Qt to build? |
| 21:46.33 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35176 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ogretest.cxx: First attempt at using a Qt Layout on top of the context. The last widget becomes the only one visible. |
| 21:47.00 | ``Erik_ | yeah, qt4 |
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| 21:48.24 | Ralith | ``Erik: okay, can cmake detect it? |
| 21:48.30 | ``Erik | haven't tried yet :D |
| 21:51.34 | ``Erik | nope |
| 21:51.43 | Ralith | damn. |
| 21:51.56 | ``Erik | they're named kinda funny, though |
| 21:51.57 | Ralith | observes that removing rootWidget->show() is probably not a good way to fix the layout |
| 21:52.11 | Ralith | funny? |
| 21:52.20 | ``Erik | not Qt4, but QtCore QtOpenGL QtGui ... |
| 21:52.25 | Ralith | that's normal |
| 21:52.34 | Ralith | at least, that's how it is on my system |
| 21:52.43 | ``Erik | ok |
| 21:52.43 | Ralith | if you're using standard install procedures, strictly this is a cmake bug ;x |
| 21:52.53 | ``Erik | straight out of macports |
| 21:53.10 | ``Erik | hrm, they all have _debug on them |
| 21:53.11 | ``Erik | erik@precious ~/src/rt^3$ pkg-config --cflags QtCore_debug |
| 21:53.11 | ``Erik | -DQT_SHARED -I/opt/local/libexec/qt4-mac/include -I/opt/local/libexec/qt4-mac/include/QtCore |
| 21:53.21 | Ralith | ...wtf? |
| 21:53.22 | Ralith | that's not right |
| 21:53.29 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35177 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ogretest.cxx: Working layout! Woo! |
| 21:54.10 | Ralith | oh wow |
| 21:54.13 | Ralith | qtcreator is sexy |
| 21:54.30 | ``Erik | qt4-mac @4.5.2 aqua/qt4-mac |
| 21:54.44 | Ralith | ``Erik: sure you don't have some flags set funny? |
| 21:54.54 | Ralith | *that* sounds like a macports bug |
| 21:55.34 | ``Erik | didn't use a variant, just said "port install qt4-mac" and let it do its thing |
| 21:55.59 | Ralith | incidentally |
| 21:56.12 | Ralith | I'm going to try using Qt Creator to do the UI design |
| 21:56.25 | Ralith | should I be sticking its project files, etc. into version control? |
| 21:56.31 | Ralith | or keeping that local and only committing the generated code? |
| 22:00.00 | Ralith | brlcad: maybe you're the one I should be asking ^? |
| 22:01.28 | Ralith | <3 the Qt docs |
| 22:01.31 | Ralith | very thorough :] |
| 22:02.36 | ``Erik | yeah, qt was the first X toolkit I was able to really get into... once I figured out how things worked, I immediately fled to gtk, though |
| 22:02.53 | Ralith | buildtimes? |
| 22:03.24 | ``Erik | and api |
| 22:03.51 | Ralith | ah. |
| 22:04.04 | ``Erik | and various other issues, like back then, you had to explicitely catch resize and show events and call paint in qt, gtk "just worked" |
| 22:04.07 | Ralith | qt4 broke backwards compatibility, though |
| 22:04.18 | Ralith | and seems very nice so far |
| 22:05.01 | Ralith | plus, benign corporate backing ftw |
| 22:05.22 | Ralith | ``Erik: no opinion on the project file thingy? |
| 22:05.42 | ``Erik | I d'no the qtbuilder output and rt^3 isn't my playground *shrug* |
| 22:06.16 | ``Erik | personally, I tend to avoid committing generated files, but that's just me |
| 22:06.42 | Ralith | I'll keep it out of svn unless someone says otherwise, then |
| 22:08.28 | starseeker | Ralith: I'd commit at least the Qt Creator files |
| 22:08.52 | starseeker | the question of what we want to rely on for building is definitely a brlcad question |
| 22:09.01 | Ralith | okay then. |
| 22:09.28 | starseeker | part of that - does the code generator generate different code on a per-platform basis? |
| 22:09.29 | Ralith | QtCreator isn't necessary, but it's a good case of something that Qt offers which could significantly simplify GUI work. |
| 22:09.35 | starseeker | nods |
| 22:09.39 | Ralith | I don't know, but I doubt it |
| 22:09.51 | Ralith | Qt itself is *very* "code once, build anywhere" |
| 22:10.09 | Ralith | one of its major attractions, imo |
| 22:11.25 | Ralith | oh wait! |
| 22:11.32 | Ralith | the progerm I was looking for is Qt Designer |
| 22:11.38 | Ralith | that explains why this is so IDEy |
| 22:13.05 | starseeker | grins |
| 22:13.21 | starseeker | yeah, that probably makes a difference |
| 22:13.40 | Ralith | it did have a very nice GUI, though. |
| 22:15.13 | Ralith | needs to find a way to default to one of the more attractive Qt themes |
| 22:30.12 | Ralith | eugh. |
| 22:30.18 | Ralith | looks like I need to make a plugin :/ |
| 22:35.28 | Ralith | or maybe not |
| 22:48.23 | Ralith | okay, I've got a test window layed out in designer, and cmake's generating code from it correctly; now I need to work out how to actually *use* it. |
| 22:49.03 | Ralith | seems to have worked! :D |
| 22:53.44 | Ralith | okay, now to make the design useful. |
| 22:53.49 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35178 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (CMakeLists.txt mainwindow.ui ogretest.cxx): Moved to Qt Designer, using cmake to generate code from mainwindow.ui. |
| 22:58.43 | ``Erik | w00t |
| 22:59.20 | Ralith | this is remarkably straightforward |
| 23:02.33 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35179 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/mainwindow.ui: Got the OgreGLWidget automatically resizing, although it still has an unnecessarily huge border. |
| 23:04.58 | Ralith | ahah! |
| 23:08.57 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35180 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/mainwindow.ui: Killed the border. |
| 23:10.14 | Ralith | ``Erik: so macports' Qt4 is debug-mode-only? |
| 23:10.24 | Ralith | that's not just your system? |
| 23:11.57 | ``Erik | I've no idea |
| 23:12.09 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35181 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/mainwindow.ui: Duplicated pre-designer ogretest; superimposed and laid out widgets working nicely. |
| 23:17.04 | Ralith | hm. |
| 23:17.32 | Ralith | I guess I'll have to work out another way to test. |
| 23:19.40 | Ralith | observes that Designer layouts end up with all widgets in the same namespace |
| 23:29.25 | Ralith | needs a screenshot of the original g3d |
| 23:30.47 | Ralith | designer's pretty intuitive :) |
| 23:34.47 | brlcad | pics or it didn't happen! |
| 23:35.04 | CIA-30 | BRL-CAD: 03ralith * r35182 10/rt^3/trunk/src/g3d/ (mainwindow.ui ogretest.cxx): Beginnings of a non-functional duplication of the original G3D GUI. |
| 23:35.11 | brlcad | Ralith: commit at least anything one of us would need to reproduce what you're doing |
| 23:35.26 | Ralith | brlcad: yeah, that question got a lot less complicated when I realized I was using the wrong app :P |
| 23:35.38 | Ralith | Qt Creator is an IDE which spews out all sorts of weird project files |
| 23:35.41 | brlcad | just document what those things are somewhere, the README or something |
| 23:35.54 | brlcad | nods |
| 23:35.58 | Ralith | Qt Designer is a UI editor which creates .ui XML files which cmake knows how to preprocess into actual code. |
| 23:36.11 | Ralith | so the course of action there is obvious (commit the .ui and modify CMakeLists) |
| 23:37.14 | Ralith | brlcad: anyway, it's working great! I haven't got the GUI *doing* anything yet, but designer's very easy to work with, and I should be able to approximately duplicate the G3D UI as soon as I get something to refer to. |
| 23:37.33 | Ralith | unfortunately, I can't build old g3d here :/ |
| 23:39.22 | Ralith | I'm also very thankful for all the issues with portably managing text input, etc that I'm *not* running into thanks to the use of Qt to handle all that. |
| 23:39.32 | ``Erik | 80 pounds of paper recycling out on the curb O.o |
| 23:39.35 | Ralith | it's all Just Working nicely. |
| 23:43.29 | Ralith | quite a relief after all that pain with Ogre. |
| 23:48.15 | Ralith | has a neat idea for handling console output that also handles a transparency issue that may or may not exist |
| 23:53.10 | Ralith | anyway, if anyone could spare the time to run and screenshot old g3d that'd be great. |
| 23:54.07 | brlcad | there are screenshots on the website, http://brlcad.org/~mafm/g3d-screenshots/ |
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| 23:54.38 | Ralith | oh, cool, thanks |
| 23:54.40 | Ralith | didn't know about that |
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| 23:58.06 | Ralith | brlcad: remind me what the difference was supposed to be between the always-visible console (bottom of screenshots) versus the pop-up console? |