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| 07:19.36 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34956 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Allow users to upload own raytracing images of the models (in addition to the automatically generated ones). |
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| 08:08.10 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34957 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/imagecache/ (17 files in 2 dirs): Imagecache module (5.x-2.4) initial commit |
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| 08:26.50 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34960 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/scripts/7.14/raytrace.txt: Update raytracing script to compensate for blank edges. |
| 09:46.19 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34961 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/themes/fireflystreamcom/style.css: Inline thumbnail preview images. |
| 10:45.38 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34962 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Refactor processing mechanism to use flag module instead of nodequeue module. |
| 11:36.25 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34963 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Completed queue processing implementation (on cron job for now and without time limits). |
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| 15:11.40 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34964 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/token/ (token.info token_node.inc): Token update (5.x-1.13) |
| 15:17.14 | ``Erik | "raytracing signed distance functions" http://sebastiansylvan.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!4469F26E93033B8C!173.entry |
| 15:21.24 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34965 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/update_status/ (24 files in 2 dirs): Update_status module (5.x-2.3) initial commit. |
| 15:24.26 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34966 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/ (37 files in 33 dirs): Drupal core update (5.19) |
| 15:47.33 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34967 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Fixed queueing bug for new models (no nid is defined on submit event) |
| 17:29.54 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34968 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/filefield/filefield.module: A hacked fix for the filefield module to clean up files upon deletion. |
| 17:48.20 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34969 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Provide feedback message related to post submission processing (queueing). |
| 17:52.14 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34970 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/ (brlcad.info brlcad.install brlcad.module): Update of BRL-CAD custom module settings and dependencies. |
| 18:52.29 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r34971 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/conv/Makefile.am src/conv/g-egg.1 src/conv/g-egg.c): added panda3d egg format |
| 19:21.10 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03ebautu * r34972 10/web/trunk/htdocs/more/sites/all/modules/brlcad/brlcad.module: Implemented watchdog messages for queue processing. |
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| 19:40.43 | elena | hi |
| 19:41.13 | elena | brlcad or starseeker, are you here? |
| 19:42.32 | elena | ``Erik? |
| 19:47.15 | ``Erik | hrm? |
| 19:47.35 | elena | hi. do you have 1 min? |
| 19:47.49 | ``Erik | <-- sets a countdown timer to 60 seconds |
| 19:47.50 | ``Erik | :D |
| 19:48.01 | ``Erik | I have several minutes, actually |
| 19:48.06 | elena | do you have an account on brlcad.org? |
| 19:48.14 | ``Erik | ja |
| 19:48.22 | ``Erik | is it not responding? |
| 19:48.23 | elena | i only need 1 for now. i'll take the rest later :) |
| 19:48.30 | elena | it's responding. |
| 19:48.45 | elena | I was just wondering if brlcad is installed on it? |
| 19:48.52 | elena | i can't seem to find it. |
| 19:49.21 | ``Erik | doesn't seem so |
| 19:50.12 | ``Erik | hrm, the ports directory is blasted and the os is ancient, how much of BRL-CAD do you need? just rt? |
| 19:50.14 | elena | i'll try to install it in my home dir then. |
| 19:50.30 | elena | mged and rt. |
| 19:50.41 | elena | pix-png and dependencies, too. |
| 19:51.02 | ``Erik | hrm, ok, I'll co the last stable and see if I can insatll it to /usr/brlcad/ |
| 19:51.33 | ``Erik | actually, I'll just grab current |
| 19:51.34 | elena | thank you. |
| 19:52.08 | elena | i wanted to install the latest tbz |
| 19:52.30 | ``Erik | (need to get migrated to the new machine, the lack of space and lack of updates are starting to hurt) |
| 19:52.31 | elena | i just reading about it. i never installed anything on freebsd before. |
| 19:53.00 | ``Erik | um, when we were running out of hard drive space, I removed the src and ports directories... assuming migration would happen "real soon now" |
| 19:53.30 | ``Erik | so installing or updating anything would be very manual and likely break stuff :( |
| 19:53.50 | ``Erik | have you tried using the new machine? |
| 19:54.19 | ``Erik | guessing not as you don't have an account there :) |
| 19:54.48 | elena | i didn't. |
| 19:58.29 | ``Erik | bah, stupid docbook crap |
| 19:58.49 | elena | hei, don't worry about it. |
| 19:59.08 | ``Erik | it's going, it's just taking a long time to co |
| 19:59.17 | elena | i don't want to eat up your time. i'll try to get it done myself. |
| 19:59.31 | ``Erik | meh, I'm just watching a crappy movie on tv anyways |
| 19:59.58 | elena | i switched it off. it was a stupid movie, too, but it kept distracting me. |
| 20:01.46 | ``Erik | "spiderman 2.1" here |
| 20:02.02 | elena | 2.1? |
| 20:02.14 | ``Erik | that's what the tvguide says |
| 20:02.22 | elena | I got the 7.10 in my home dir if you want. |
| 20:02.27 | elena | we could us that. |
| 20:02.36 | ``Erik | ah, extended verson of spiderman 2 |
| 20:02.56 | elena | oh. I could be spiderman 3 alpha release :) |
| 20:03.03 | ``Erik | http://dvd.ign.com/articles/772/772560p1.html |
| 20:03.10 | ``Erik | autoreconf is running now |
| 20:03.19 | elena | are you in us? |
| 20:03.45 | ``Erik | yes, near baltimore... work in the same office as brlcad, starseeker, indianlarry, etc... |
| 20:04.27 | elena | how did you spent yesterday? |
| 20:04.31 | elena | any party? |
| 20:05.12 | ``Erik | sat around, watched tv, coded a little, drank a 'brown cow' and went to sleep O.o no partying or celebration, though I did watch the fireworks briefly |
| 20:06.00 | elena | not too tired then :) |
| 20:06.27 | ``Erik | heh, no, less tired that most days :) |
| 20:06.57 | elena | good. some rest is nice. |
| 20:13.57 | ``Erik | configure running now |
| 20:20.29 | ``Erik | compiling |
| 20:21.22 | elena | brb |
| 20:21.47 | elena | back |
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| 20:44.20 | elena | did it finished? |
| 20:44.32 | elena | did it finish? |
| 20:45.55 | ``Erik | still in the src/other dir |
| 20:46.39 | ``Erik | it's not a terribly fast machine, overloaded with poorly written SQL and php smashing all over, plus a couple far overburdened irssi processes, and I nice'd the build.. it'll take a while :) |
| 20:47.28 | ``Erik | interrupts and starts compiling the minimal set |
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| 20:55.37 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03Ebautu 07http://brlcad.org * r1534 10/wiki/More_Changelog: July 5 activities |
| 20:55.56 | elena | it could benefit from a php optimizer |
| 20:58.36 | ``Erik | the machine? it'd benefit from some analysis of the sql statement, saved prepared statements, moving away from php to optimized compiled modules for heavy lifting, and people moving from irssi to bx O.o O:-) |
| 20:59.16 | ``Erik | has been looking at using optimized common lisp as an application server for web stuff |
| 21:00.05 | elena | then it would be too fast :) |
| 21:01.01 | ``Erik | heh, no such thing :) but it's definitely much more pleasant to work in than php... and I couldn't even imagine doing cgi and shtml/ssi anymore |
| 21:01.56 | ``Erik | (for some reason, I'd gotten myself under the impression that 'more' was a python beastie like on django or something at some point, was surprised to see the drupal stuff there... musta confused myself at some point) |
| 21:05.26 | elena | i didn't learn python (yet) :( |
| 21:07.02 | ``Erik | I'm in the process, but only due to panda3d |
| 21:07.46 | ``Erik | <-- wrote an exporter to generate the panda3d format from BRL-CAD geometry this morning O.o BRL-CAD work on a weekend, I must be going insane |
| 21:08.09 | elena | :D |
| 21:23.18 | ``Erik | 24 degrees, nice breeze... if it weren't for noisy children with noisy toys, this'd be a great day to sit out in the grass :/ |
| 21:47.50 | ``Erik | rt is installed |
| 21:48.03 | elena | thank you. |
| 21:48.25 | ``Erik | still working on mged |
| 22:06.24 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r34973 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/Makefile.am: add libgcv to dependancy list |
| 22:07.46 | ``Erik | mged is installed |
| 22:15.36 | CIA-32 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r34974 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/Makefile.am: add libpc to dependancy list |
| 22:17.20 | ``Erik | hrm, pix-png is installed, I THINK it'll work, but I'm not sure... can't compile libpc, so can't install the entire util dir |
| 22:18.30 | elena | it complains about libtcl8.5.so |
| 22:18.37 | elena | mged, too. |
| 22:19.29 | ``Erik | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/brlcad/lib |
| 22:20.01 | elena | :) |
| 22:20.34 | ``Erik | (not sure if I messed something up or if it's just a facet of that OS and how it deals with rpaths) |
| 22:21.09 | ``Erik | was outdated in 2004... O.o |
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| 23:01.10 | Ralith | why does BRL-CAD like to live in its own dir, anyway? |
| 23:01.45 | ``Erik | file name conficts, mostly |
| 23:02.11 | Ralith | ah. |
| 23:02.17 | ``Erik | centos, for example, has /usr/lib/librt.so |
| 23:02.27 | Ralith | yeah, that came to mind |
| 23:02.54 | Ralith | every time I build g3d I get a warning wrt. that |
| 23:03.00 | ``Erik | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d8629591 |
| 23:03.20 | ``Erik | I think libbn.so exists in some old crypto package |
| 23:03.46 | ``Erik | and then there's the whole tcl/tk/incrtcl/tkimg mess |
| 23:04.07 | Ralith | other packages have taken the approach of naming things like libbrlcad-rt.so |
| 23:04.10 | ``Erik | (which really needs to be fixed) |
| 23:04.22 | Ralith | and yeah, the tk situation is addressable |
| 23:04.24 | ``Erik | what other packages? |
| 23:04.42 | Ralith | uh |
| 23:04.45 | Ralith | at least, I think some have |
| 23:04.48 | Ralith | none come to mind right away |
| 23:05.01 | ``Erik | *shrug* |
| 23:05.12 | Ralith | Ogre takes the approach of sticking a subdir in $PREFIX/lib/ |
| 23:05.16 | Ralith | not to resolve conflicts, though |
| 23:05.37 | Ralith | probably just because the lib names were already getting too long |
| 23:05.57 | ``Erik | throw in that it comes from the classic unix days where non-trivial suites took their own directory (/opt/motif /opt/oracle ...), and then all these other programs popped up stealing our names, *shrug* why bother changing it? |
| 23:06.20 | Ralith | isn't advocating changing it, just observing a few different solutions. |
| 23:06.36 | ``Erik | one of my old projects has its own $PREFIX/lib/$PACKAGE/ dir, but that was more to keep things together as it does bunches of dlopen/dlsym evilness |
| 23:07.24 | ``Erik | (pluggable frontends and backing stores, each lib implements the same function names, a tiny shell picks which one to use and wires it in) |
| 23:07.40 | ``Erik | cuz I thought I was badass in '99 or '00 O:-) |
| 23:07.49 | Ralith | hehe |
| 23:07.54 | Ralith | excessive dynamicness is underrated |
| 23:08.02 | Ralith | it's one of the things I love about lisp. |
| 23:08.10 | ``Erik | well, it allowed me to do some crazy shit very very quickly |
| 23:08.18 | Ralith | like what? |
| 23:08.45 | ``Erik | how many people do you know writing full MUA's with gtk, gnome, and curses interfaces and able to store in mysql, postgresql, mdir, mspool, ... |
| 23:09.15 | ``Erik | and then make a dozen tiny utilities in just a dozen or two lines without touching existing installed code while it chunks along |
| 23:09.18 | alecs1 | hi, where's a good place to post some questions about the relation between models and the production line? |
| 23:09.34 | ``Erik | what do you mean by "production line"? |
| 23:09.42 | Ralith | ``Erik: Sounds like fun. gtk and gnome were different interfaces? |
| 23:10.11 | alecs1 | I'm specifically interested in the way bonnets and complex shapes are manufactured |
| 23:10.17 | ``Erik | ralith: yes, gtk first, then gnome as I learned it (gnome was very much in flux at the time... um, this was around 0.10 to 0.30) |
| 23:10.31 | Ralith | er, what's the difference? |
| 23:10.36 | alecs1 | and if there's some sculpting process of creating a "press" automatically from the CAD model |
| 23:10.42 | Ralith | isn't gnome just a DE that uses gtk? |
| 23:11.17 | alecs1 | because of non-native english I don't really find results on google |
| 23:12.04 | ``Erik | alecs1: I'd imagine most are stamped into shape, and if you have gcode or something, you might be able to use a CNC mill or something to generate the mold/stamp? *shrug* BRL-CAD isn't terribly tied to CAM stuff, we're more in the CAE area |
| 23:12.31 | Ralith | for the time being, anyway. |
| 23:12.35 | ``Erik | ralith: yeah, but funky wrappers and stuff to generate code... like the menu is a metalanguage that goes through a parser instead of building by hand gtk style |
| 23:12.43 | Ralith | ah. |
| 23:12.56 | ``Erik | instead of making a window and putting stuff in it, you define a "GNOME_app" or something |
| 23:13.59 | Ralith | sounds very elaborate |
| 23:14.00 | ``Erik | (kinda like how OGRE sits ontop of opengl, I guess?) |
| 23:14.44 | Ralith | ogre's is probably a much deeper abstraction. |
| 23:14.54 | Ralith | given that it can sit on top of DirectX just as happily |
| 23:15.06 | alecs1 | thanks, could you tell me some more key-words for finding the machines that press the sheet metal to make the external body parts? |
| 23:18.27 | ``Erik | rm, "brake" "press" "panel beating" mebbe a question like "how are car panels made" |
| 23:31.11 | alecs1 | thank you, I think I found enough material :) |
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| 23:34.17 | ``Erik | w00t |
| 23:52.26 | Ralith | wuut |