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| 06:49.55 | Mouette | exppp.c:351: error: `sys_errlist' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 06:50.04 | Mouette | in 7.14.8 |
| 06:51.25 | Mouette | maybe solaris hasn't the fonction |
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| 10:40.58 | jpjacobs | Hi ! |
| 10:41.54 | jpjacobs | I once made a ubuntu package for BRLCAD, but it isn't maintained any more, and back then it even was just a hackup, not taking into account dependancies etc. |
| 10:44.11 | jpjacobs | But now I keep getting those mails as "Hey I can't install your BRLCAD package, please help". But since I'm no longer using it, Would you mind taking the package off line, and put http://jpjacobs.ulyssis.org/brlcad-7.8.4.zip instead? it's the directory structure of the debian package, and has a usefull shellscript for setting up the environnement |
| 10:45.43 | jpjacobs | But at least state that I am not the package maintainer, and can't really help, unless point them through to general "how to build and install packages in ubuntu" pages. |
| 10:45.46 | jpjacobs | Thanks! |
| 12:18.14 | brlcad | howdy jpjacobs |
| 12:18.36 | jpjacobs | howdy |
| 12:18.46 | brlcad | jpjacobs: you referring to the .deb on sf.net? |
| 12:20.30 | jpjacobs | I guess so... if it's the one I made :) |
| 12:21.05 | jpjacobs | (btw sorry if I stop responding, the network here has troubles today...) |
| 12:22.19 | brlcad | hm, that was balbir thomas |
| 12:27.31 | jpjacobs | hmmm i'll see |
| 12:29.06 | brlcad | so what exactly are you asking? :) .. doesn't seem like the existing 7.8.4 deb has your name (at least in the credits, cant crack the file atm) |
| 12:30.39 | brlcad | maybe there's an entry in apt that references you |
| 12:30.49 | jpjacobs | in apt even? |
| 12:31.12 | jpjacobs | is it in apt yet? because I made the package because there was none in the repository at that moment |
| 12:31.33 | jpjacobs | mmm I think i'll mail the guy who mailed me for support where he got the link... |
| 12:31.44 | brlcad | i'm not sure what the current status is, it wasn't then it was approved, then rumored that it was, then wasn't, so I don't know |
| 12:31.59 | brlcad | don't have a debian box accessible, and that's not something we maintain |
| 12:33.04 | brlcad | either way, sounds like you deserve thanks in out contributor's file -- happen to know when you worked on it (and your full name)? |
| 12:34.31 | jpjacobs | well I think it was about 3 years ago... but actually the only thing it was was a quick package without proper dependancies and stuff. The only thing I really wrote was a wrapper for Xterm that sets up an environnement as is used in the manual |
| 12:40.59 | ``Erik | I know I built a debian/ directory long ago, but lost access to my debian machine... d'no ubuntu, but if a package maintainer is not keeping current, basic courtesy says that they should step aside if contacted |
| 12:41.44 | ``Erik | I've been feeling remiss in my maintainership of the fbsd port, if pedro asked to retake the responsibility, I would probably cede and take on a 'mentor' roll |
| 12:41.47 | ``Erik | role |
| 12:42.19 | jpjacobs | I never was a package maintainer, just made it once, ugly hackup, and put it online if anybody could use it... now it's like 3 years old, and I still have mails for support (not a lot, but anyway) |
| 12:42.21 | ``Erik | (also; huzzah! dude is coming to finish up on my house today!) |
| 12:42.51 | ``Erik | that's 3 people looking to you as the official liazon, man :) |
| 12:43.05 | jpjacobs | :) |
| 12:43.10 | jpjacobs | hehe |
| 12:43.18 | ``Erik | it's meritocracy, if you have the desire and the ability, then you're the guy |
| 12:43.52 | jpjacobs | anyway, I give them directions to building packages in general, hand them over the wrapper script and such, but not really anything that couldn't be written on a site or wiki somewhere... |
| 12:47.15 | brlcad | jpjacobs: well if you find out that the ref is somewhere on our end, I can disable it .. but not finding it -- you're probably coming up on people just searching "brl-cad on debian" or somesuch |
| 12:47.49 | jpjacobs | searched myself just now, couldn't find it... |
| 12:48.00 | brlcad | that that hack is still thank-worthy, if you care to be annotated |
| 12:48.17 | brlcad | s/that that/and that/ |
| 12:48.46 | jpjacobs | well, Yea, but maybe (if we find out where it is) state that it's totally unmaintained hack from 3 years back :) |
| 12:49.47 | jpjacobs | If you want you can also put the zip file with the debian directoory structure online, so anybody can plugin any compiled version, and roll their own .deb? |
| 12:50.10 | jpjacobs | (how ever i don't remmember quite so well how the actual deb-making went...) |
| 12:53.38 | brlcad | there's no point in posting old versions |
| 12:53.43 | brlcad | especially ones that old |
| 12:54.00 | brlcad | they just get disabled if there is a problem |
| 12:54.08 | brlcad | the actual "problem" is that there hasn't been an update ;) |
| 12:56.08 | jpjacobs | yeps... so you can put up the zip with the structure (just has the /usr/bin ... structure) it's here if you'd like it http://jpjacobs.ulyssis.org/brlcad-7.8.4.zip |
| 12:59.38 | brlcad | have it, but that's not useful by itself (at least posted on sf.net with our distributions) |
| 12:59.58 | brlcad | I'll just keep it handy in case someone else expresses interest in working on it |
| 13:00.20 | brlcad | which actually seems to happen every few months .. but nobody takes it to completion it seems |
| 13:00.49 | jpjacobs | indeed |
| 13:00.58 | jpjacobs | :p |
| 13:01.12 | brlcad | looks like you showed up on 20061123 ;) |
| 13:01.33 | jpjacobs | :) waaaaay back :) |
| 13:04.59 | brlcad | jpjacobs: can you check if the 7.8.4 .deb on sf.net is yours? |
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| 13:05.23 | brlcad | https://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=105292&filename=brlcad-7.8.4.deb&a=36697579 |
| 13:05.38 | brlcad | if it is, i'll just turn it off |
| 13:09.30 | jpjacobs | I'll see |
| 13:09.45 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34535 10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: credit jpjacobs for his work back in 20061123 where he prepared a .deb package for 7.8.4. the dist included a brlterm wrapper script that sets the PATH/MANPATH, lscolors, and provides the apt package control files. |
| 13:10.18 | jpjacobs | brlcad, jeps, it lists me as maintaine |
| 13:10.19 | jpjacobs | r |
| 13:11.14 | brlcad | disabled |
| 13:11.21 | jpjacobs | thx |
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| 13:59.26 | ``Erik | interesting, hulu lets you skip past commercials now |
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| 15:03.07 | ``Erik | ok, they messed something up, if you skip to the end of a show, then play it back from the start, it skips over all the ads |
| 15:03.09 | ``Erik | heh |
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| 15:18.37 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34536 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (12 files in 2 dirs): Add editing for RHC, RPC and Superell to libged and Archer. |
| 15:34.18 | brlcad | ``Erik: interesting, i'll have to try that... |
| 15:34.54 | brlcad | i did notice that they have a timer, it won't play a commercial if it's played one recently |
| 15:44.29 | ``Erik | maybe that's what I ran into |
| 15:44.51 | ``Erik | I was trying to watch an episode, wanted to see if it was fresh in my mind, so I skipped to the end, then back to the beginning |
| 15:45.23 | ``Erik | in the past, when I tried to skip to the end, it brought me straight to the next scheduled ad, so I found this behavior... intriguing :) |
| 15:46.11 | ``Erik | (I don't mind the advertisements... they're far fewer than cable tv, and don't have the volume issue) |
| 15:46.25 | brlcad | fancast does that |
| 15:46.31 | brlcad | very annoying |
| 15:46.36 | ``Erik | does which now? the volume issue? |
| 15:46.51 | brlcad | jump to mid-show and it'll play all the ads in-betwee |
| 15:47.04 | ``Erik | ah, hulu used to do that |
| 15:47.13 | ``Erik | even that's ok with me, though... the volume thing is what pisses me off |
| 15:47.36 | ``Erik | I mean, I have to turn the volume up for the show, and when a commercial hits, it's 4x the volume, wtf |
| 15:47.37 | brlcad | hm, no volume issue for me |
| 15:47.58 | ``Erik | different channels have different "preferred" volumes as well |
| 15:48.04 | ``Erik | :/ |
| 15:48.38 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r34537 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob continues onward on the archer interactive editing support, adding support for rhc, rpc, superell in addition to epa, part. just annotate them as 'most primitives' since he'll undoubtedly add more still |
| 15:48.47 | ``Erik | 'fox' has to go down to -40, comedy central and cartoon network are -24 |
| 15:49.50 | brlcad | that's pretty odd |
| 15:49.54 | ``Erik | probably should not have bought a 600 watt home theater system O:-) |
| 15:50.11 | brlcad | really can't say I've really noticed and that's watching 4 or 5 channels |
| 15:50.18 | brlcad | maybe your flash needs upgrading :) |
| 15:50.25 | ``Erik | heh, possibly |
| 15:50.35 | ``Erik | I've noticed a lot of service degredation |
| 15:50.38 | brlcad | or quicktime or whatever all it goes through |
| 15:50.46 | ``Erik | like the 'on demand' channel now hangs indefinitely |
| 15:51.04 | brlcad | oh, for the comcast box? |
| 15:51.24 | ``Erik | I pulled it up one night, got the 'loading data; please wait' screen, left the box on overnight, it was still tehre in the morning |
| 15:51.34 | brlcad | yeah, mine never worked .. I called them 3 or 4 times for it, they'd send a reset signal, it'd work for one day then be busted again |
| 15:52.11 | ``Erik | I'm starting to think d-lo's idea of "cancel cable, it's all online" might be a brilliant avenue |
| 15:52.16 | brlcad | it was 50/50 if I cold cycled the box |
| 15:52.35 | brlcad | that's my route now :) |
| 15:52.38 | ``Erik | no, this has been dead for many months, and I do a full rebooted pretty much daily |
| 15:52.40 | brlcad | works great |
| 15:53.01 | ``Erik | the cable box goes off when I turn off the tv and amp |
| 15:53.15 | brlcad | the thing has a cmos iirc, has to stay unplugged for 1min to reset or something iirc |
| 15:53.28 | brlcad | ah, k |
| 15:53.31 | ``Erik | it's been down with power outages, and I unplug it all when I leave town |
| 15:54.27 | ``Erik | oh, uh, *prod* machine migration, still in the queue? |
| 15:54.56 | ``Erik | noticed that the old machine is cooked up an awful lot on apache looking for locks |
| 15:55.16 | ``Erik | 30% cpu utilization but reading 3.0 load due to buttloads of lockd and select |
| 15:55.28 | ``Erik | might be failing fs issues |
| 15:55.32 | ``Erik | or bad code |
| 15:55.45 | brlcad | part of it is bad top reporting |
| 15:56.00 | brlcad | cpu stats are jacked in that version |
| 15:57.52 | ``Erik | a lot is jacked in that version, it was a zomfg hack release to cover some ugly mistakes |
| 15:58.28 | ``Erik | I don't think the 5 series was sane until 5.4, and everyone who was doing critical work was off on 6 when 5.2.1 came out |
| 15:58.48 | ``Erik | now it's 7.2 |
| 15:59.08 | ``Erik | (6 was a bit of a stinker as well, but 7 seems back to the quality 4 had) |
| 16:02.06 | ``Erik | *shrug* personally, I want to bring them to pace to get a modern sbcl set up behind modproxy :) port atrophy is my concern |
| 16:02.27 | ``Erik | if you run sudo portaudit -Fda, ... there's an awful lot of... issue |
| 16:04.45 | brlcad | nods |
| 16:06.03 | ``Erik | I tried to put that output into a weekly cron email, I don't think I did it right though :) |
| 16:06.25 | ``Erik | I'm sure you saw the sudo's |
| 16:09.28 | brlcad | probably saw them, but not ringing a bell at the moment |
| 16:09.34 | brlcad | but mind is off in libged land atm |
| 16:53.27 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34538 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/make.c: Added hyp to the result given when -t is specified. |
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| 18:01.48 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34539 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (scale_rhc.c scale_rpc.c scale_superell.c): Add editing for RHC, RPC and Superell to libged and Archer. |
| 18:33.44 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r34540 10/brlcad/trunk/include/common.h: HAVE_DRAND48 does only make sense with a config.h |
| 19:00.08 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r34541 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/scale_tor.c: Constrain the scaling. |
| 19:23.59 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03JamesVasile 07http://brlcad.org * r1443 10/wiki/Compiling: Added build instructions specific to debian/ubuntu |
| 19:24.45 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03JamesVasile 07http://brlcad.org * r1444 10/wiki/Main_Page: Added link to Compiling page |
| 19:35.25 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:12.15 | CIA-28 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r34542 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/README.Linux: Add note about 64 building on Linux platforms |
| 23:46.59 | dreeves__ | ,m,. |
| 23:48.21 | dreeves__ | brlcad saw your comments and the patch I will take a look soon I have been very tied up on a project not much time. soon hopefully |