| 01:10.36 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33875 10/jbrlcad/trunk/ (16 files in 7 dirs): |
| 01:10.36 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: Corrected some bugs. |
| 01:10.36 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: Added a bin directory |
| 01:16.01 | louipc | some bugs? :D |
| 02:01.24 | brlcad | starseeker: ah |
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| 06:36.07 | brlcad | burps what could quite possibly be some of the best wings he's had to date |
| 06:36.28 | brlcad | now to unbreak distcheck.. |
| 06:36.35 | yukonbob | goes to Wingnuts in Vancouver... |
| 06:36.46 | yukonbob | brlcad: question re: development methodology. |
| 06:36.54 | brlcad | yukonbob: shoot |
| 06:37.50 | yukonbob | I noticed you were helping somebody with a build, and you said "I usually just use HEAD, in case a bug is already solved there" -- so it must be a law "never check-in a broken build", correct? |
| 06:38.45 | brlcad | not quite so strict, but something to that effect -- at least not knowingly break the build or leave it in a broken state |
| 06:38.48 | yukonbob | heh -- /me sees previous comment "unbreak..." :) |
| 06:39.24 | yukonbob | I guess some philosophies are 100% strict... was wondering what your take on it is... |
| 06:40.00 | brlcad | yeah, there being a good example actually -- good faith fix was made that should have been benign, but later discovered that it wasn't and broke the build -- so now I can't proceed until things are fixed or reverted, and the issue shouldn't linger |
| 06:41.34 | brlcad | issues will happen, even with a 100% policy |
| 06:42.20 | brlcad | because in actuality, no matter how many tests you impose, that really only approaches 100% and is some level of 99.something% |
| 06:43.00 | brlcad | with process overhead (hopefully) giving you an order or two of additional confidence but at the *cost* of development fluidity and process overhead |
| 06:45.25 | brlcad | so my general take is to be more adaptive to whatever the situation is, able to respond to a failed build reasonably quickly and with responsibility on the devs to take good faith efforts to not break things and fix them when they are broken |
| 06:45.49 | brlcad | that's pretty much in-line with what is spelled out in the HACKING file too |
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| 13:55.36 | starseeker | d-lo: Could you pass the word I'm out sick today, if you're in? |
| 13:58.20 | brlcad | sorry to hear that starseeker |
| 13:58.54 | starseeker | brlcad: I guess it's reasonable - it hasn't happened much this past year - but it sucks :-( |
| 13:59.05 | starseeker | distcheck is still busted? |
| 13:59.18 | brlcad | my issue now |
| 14:00.03 | brlcad | fixed the makefile bunding, but also pulled configure and I don't understand why that isn't getting regenerated yet |
| 14:00.28 | starseeker | hmm. OK |
| 14:00.57 | brlcad | so the tcl init problem may still be there, but don't know |
| 14:01.58 | brlcad | got another test going now |
| 14:02.03 | brlcad | g'morning d-lo |
| 14:04.15 | d-lo | grumbles about state vehicle inspections... |
| 14:04.36 | d-lo | mornin brlcad! |
| 14:07.59 | d-lo | starseeker: Did you call and leave voice mails? |
| 14:08.13 | d-lo | starseeker: Sent an email to Ed, Paulette and Steph. |
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| 14:23.40 | _sushi_ | brlcad: the brlcad now works fine, thanks! |
| 14:57.58 | brlcad | _sushi_: glad to hear it |
| 15:13.02 | brlcad | woots as has a functioning distcheck, sans init errors |
| 15:13.16 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33876 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/ (tcl/Makefile.am tk/Makefile.am): so the configure scripts need to be included so they can be run immediately post-dist creation (and don't get a chance to regenerate), but don't include the Makefile files else evil trolls will foil thy compile. |
| 15:14.06 | brlcad | hm, though the init errors were during test, not distcheck.. testing |
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| 15:54.31 | brlcad | starseeker: woot, all working again |
| 16:51.48 | brlcad | plans to make a release this weekend if all still looks good |
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| 17:39.17 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33877 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/geometry/Hit.java: Added @Override annotation |
| 17:43.22 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33878 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/ (8 files in 3 dirs): More bug fixes |
| 17:48.51 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33879 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/samples/rt.java: Take into account the colortab |
| 17:54.39 | d-lo | Go John Go! |
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| 20:16.57 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33880 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/preppedGeometry/PreppedArb8.java: Corrected miss behavior |
| 20:17.42 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33881 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/spacePartition/RayData.java: Fixed variable that hid field |
| 20:19.02 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33882 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/preppedGeometry/ (PreppedEllipsoid.java PreppedRec.java PreppedTgc.java): Only Bot needs to add its segments to the RayData |
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| 21:04.16 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33883 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ged.c: Setting the default view to 35,25 |
| 21:05.58 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33884 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/setup.c: Set default display variables for when there's no database open. |
| 21:16.37 | brlcad | woot |
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| 21:55.56 | starseeker | d-lo: thanks :-) |
| 21:56.14 | starseeker | brlcad: excellent :-) |
| 21:56.40 | brlcad | yeah, and with those last two fixes from bob, might be good to go |
| 21:56.43 | starseeker | makes note to self to diff with 8.5.6 vanilla for future reference. |
| 21:56.51 | brlcad | can you test mged? |
| 21:57.01 | starseeker | sure, let me build quick |
| 21:57.35 | brlcad | at least for potential show-stopper issues, minor ones can just make the list for later |
| 22:03.52 | starseeker | brlcad: did bob show you the gqa visualization? |
| 22:04.25 | brlcad | I saw what he was working on last week |
| 22:04.32 | starseeker | ah :-) |
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| 22:05.37 | starseeker | now if we can make it use a default grid spacing based on the view size, we may be able to type gqa instead of rtcheck and get better results :-) |
| 22:07.06 | brlcad | gqa output would still need to be improved, rtcheck's is a little more organized |
| 22:07.33 | starseeker | nods |
| 22:07.41 | starseeker | that should be doable though |
| 22:08.12 | brlcad | would be nice to replace rtcheck so we don't have duplicate functionality |
| 22:08.23 | brlcad | even if the namesake remains |
| 22:08.28 | starseeker | indeed |
| 22:08.52 | starseeker | for full on replacement though, we'd have to have a "compatibility" mode, wouldn't we? to be able to duplicate previous results? |
| 22:09.19 | brlcad | not strictly speaking |
| 22:10.10 | brlcad | it just needs to at least do what rtcheck does to replace it |
| 22:10.16 | brlcad | more is okay, just shouldn't do less/worse |
| 22:10.49 | brlcad | one feature rtcheck will do still that gqa won't is user-specified view grids |
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| 22:11.03 | brlcad | should be a simple enhancement to add arbitrary views really |
| 22:11.12 | starseeker | that's what I was thinking |
| 22:11.47 | starseeker | we would need to do something of the sort eventually anyhow |
| 22:11.59 | brlcad | then maybe gqa's default is just 0 0 0, 0 90 0, 0 0 90 like it does now, but allow user to specify N arbitrary views to override |
| 22:12.22 | brlcad | so you could get rtcheck's exact rays being fired if you set up the same view and only that view with no refinement, for example |
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| 22:17.11 | starseeker | right |
| 22:17.36 | starseeker | then for the rtcheck alias, just hardcode the options that would provide the grid set derived from the view plane |
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| 22:41.06 | starseeker | brlcad: Seems to be doing find for release critical stuff - opendb didn't result in the background color being updated according to preferences, but I don't know if that's a problem or not |
| 22:41.47 | brlcad | does it display the wireframe when you e up something? |
| 22:42.30 | starseeker | yep |
| 22:45.24 | brlcad | k |
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| 23:56.02 | tc-rucho | hello, how can I set the twist angle in the view? |
| 23:56.29 | tc-rucho | azimut and elevation are set with 'ae', but, what about twist? |
| 23:56.57 | tc-rucho | I would find brlcad way more intuitive if it allowed me to just do 'view tw=15' |
| 23:57.09 | tc-rucho | or 'view set tw=15' |
| 23:57.19 | tc-rucho | but that doesn't work |
| 23:57.34 | brlcad | you have the right idea |
| 23:57.41 | brlcad | just the wrong syntax |
| 23:58.03 | tc-rucho | what's it then? |
| 23:58.14 | brlcad | two ways |
| 23:58.21 | tc-rucho | I've been looking for a way to do that for like 20 mins |
| 23:58.32 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:58.48 | brlcad | okay, so first slightly longer way, view command |
| 23:58.54 | brlcad | run view, see the list of subcommands |
| 23:58.57 | brlcad | one of them is aet |
| 23:59.06 | brlcad | view aet 0 0 30 |
| 23:59.10 | brlcad | az/el/twist |
| 23:59.16 | tc-rucho | oh, but when I tried 'help view aet' it was not documented |
| 23:59.38 | tc-rucho | mged> help view aet |
| 23:59.39 | tc-rucho | Usage: view center|size|eye|ypr|quat|aet |
| 23:59.41 | tc-rucho | (get/set view parameters (local units).) |
| 23:59.43 | tc-rucho | No help found for aet |
| 23:59.48 | brlcad | "help view aet" means "help view" and "help aet" |
| 23:59.57 | tc-rucho | I think that shouldn't say "no help found for aet" |