| 00:20.09 | starseeker | well, that's probably it then - something about my bwish is messed up |
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| 19:53.03 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33775 10/jbrlcad/trunk/src/org/brlcad/preppedGeometry/PreppedTgc.java: Added support for TGC primitive |
| 20:00.35 | brlcad | makes a note to port more of that lib to C++ |
| 20:01.28 | brlcad | for now, though, time to visit the family |
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| 20:21.44 | inacio | Can anyone tell me how to, or point me to the correct docs, on how to build brl cad for mac os? First it wouldn't handle OpenGL; then I added an LDFLAGS variable to configure "-F/System/Library/Frameworks -framework OpenGL" but now autoconf tells me it doesn't know how to use the compiler. Any tips, or the web page I should read, because I couldn't find it. |
| 20:22.39 | brlcad | inacio: doc/README.MacOSX |
| 20:22.57 | inacio | wow, that's embarrasing⦠|
| 20:23.07 | brlcad | you should actually turn off the ogl inteface --without-ogl |
| 20:23.20 | brlcad | it's problematic on Mac due to an X11 issue |
| 20:23.44 | brlcad | you won't lose functionality -- we implement the same functionality via other protocols |
| 20:24.07 | inacio | I will lose HW acceleration though, right? |
| 20:24.13 | brlcad | nope |
| 20:24.18 | inacio | cool |
| 20:24.43 | brlcad | we don't do shaded displays via opengl yet anyways, we use ray-tracing |
| 20:24.58 | brlcad | that'll be sometime next year |
| 20:26.29 | inacio | Is there a default config string for Mac OS? I was trying |
| 20:26.29 | inacio | ./configure --prefix=/opt/local/brlcad --with-ogl --enable-optimized --enable-dtrace LDFLAGS="-F/System/Library/Frameworks -framework OpenGL" |
| 20:26.56 | inacio | obviously this should at least become |
| 20:26.57 | inacio | ./configure --prefix=... --without-ogl |
| 20:27.32 | inacio | can I use --enable-optimized and --enable-dtrace? (I don't really need dtrace, btw, mostly curiosity) |
| 20:28.52 | inacio | I am trying this on a PowerMac dual G5. |
| 20:28.56 | inacio | if it matters. |
| 20:31.01 | inacio | should I want a 64-bit version? |
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| 20:32.28 | brlcad | dtrace with optimized is probably kinda useless |
| 20:32.37 | brlcad | just like debugging with optimized |
| 20:32.57 | brlcad | might get something, but it'd only be useful to devs |
| 20:33.22 | brlcad | 64-bit isn't going to do anything for you |
| 20:35.34 | inacio | dtrace is just to have something of real size to try with dtrace. It might be interesting to me to see what I can understand from performance using just dtrace. I occasionally run into analysis problems similar to that on programs whose code base isn't available. I realize that it might be fairly non-sensical. |
| 20:36.44 | inacio | what happens when you try to use OpenGL on Mac OS? I didn't dive into the compile problem, but I guess that someone else has. |
| 20:37.14 | brlcad | bad behavior |
| 20:37.40 | brlcad | some issue in the glx bindings causes the display to not update until it's invalidated, among other issues |
| 20:38.00 | inacio | that would get pretty ugly |
| 20:38.01 | brlcad | the compile problem is probably easy to fix -- builds fine with ogl here |
| 20:39.11 | inacio | I have a pile of libraries and such installed for working on my day job, I wonder if there is a conflict. (I doubt I will dive deep enough to figure it out though.) |
| 20:49.28 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 20:53.02 | yukonbob | brlcad: (or anybody) -- can you compare contrast brlcad w/ CATIA in a sentence or two? |
| 20:53.17 | yukonbob | *compare/contrats |
| 20:53.23 | yukonbob | *contrast |
| 20:56.29 | yukonbob | !wow -- CATIA is now Windows only, if I understand v6 correctly... |
| 20:58.36 | louipc | ! |
| 21:03.46 | yukonbob | is curious re: brl-cad vs. catia because I just got a book about computers and archtecture, and found out Frank Gehry uses a CATIA core for his work... I saw a documentary about him and saw him working on his computer and at the time wondered what he was using... apparently, it's CATIA |
| 21:03.56 | brlcad | yukonbob: sure cadn. "BRL-CAD is *way* more awesome than CATIA." |
| 21:04.12 | yukonbob | brlcad: ok.. thanks... ;) |
| 21:04.19 | yukonbob | LOL |
| 21:04.23 | yukonbob | waves to brlcad |
| 21:04.55 | brlcad | sentance #2: "BRL-CAD is Open Source and CATIA is not." |
| 21:05.07 | louipc | brlcad++ |
| 21:05.38 | yukonbob | would getting BRL-CAD to a place where one could be competitve with f. gehry a smop, or are there so many core differences that it's comparing apples and oragutuangs? |
| 21:06.01 | yukonbob | *smop -- simple matter of programming |
| 21:06.35 | yukonbob | ie: building an interface (perhaps archer is already there) and perhaps linking-up existing library functions in unique ways... |
| 21:07.12 | yukonbob | *orangutans |
| 21:08.03 | yukonbob | svn updates... |
| 21:16.05 | brlcad | smot&e |
| 21:16.09 | brlcad | time and effort |
| 21:17.18 | brlcad | dessault puts more manpower into catia than any other cad company (that I'm aware of) except maybe autodesk w/ autocad |
| 21:17.41 | brlcad | they have more than 1000 *devs* that work on it |
| 21:18.27 | brlcad | of course, that's across all lines that dassault employs afaik |
| 21:19.00 | yukonbob | what's the status of brl-cad and nurbs? |
| 21:19.09 | yukonbob | integrated and Good? |
| 21:19.22 | brlcad | being worked on bit by bit |
| 21:19.32 | brlcad | not done by any stretch, but making progress |
| 21:21.22 | brlcad | the status is "needs more time and effort" :) |
| 21:22.14 | yukonbob | smop/smot&e nice... |
| 21:28.55 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r33776 10/jbrlcad/trunk/ (62 files in 15 dirs): |
| 21:28.55 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: Added support for TGC primitive |
| 21:28.55 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: Added a simple rt sample app |
| 21:28.55 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: Added some unit tests |
| 21:40.41 | brlcad | good gravy.. john must have been working on that all day or more |
| 21:41.53 | brlcad | detaches and hits the road, cya all later |
| 21:43.03 | yukonbob | ciao |
| 21:43.24 | yukonbob | prepares to head-out, too |
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