| 00:00.17 | ``Erik | yes, we know what rt looks like O.o it's in SVN |
| 00:00.28 | IriX64 | sure is :) |
| 00:01.16 | IriX64 | thank God he said "clipboard" and not 9mm :) |
| 00:03.07 | ``Erik | only punkass "gansta" wannabes carry 9's anymore, a .40 or 10mm is where it's at, yo |
| 00:03.10 | ``Erik | :D |
| 00:04.33 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/T7SLwE60.html <--- this is where i learn from mostly ;) |
| 00:05.28 | IriX64 | after all the code *is the documentation |
| 00:07.18 | ``Erik | bu.h would be a good commented index of all that crap (and we know what src/libbu looks like) |
| 00:07.53 | IriX64 | thanks, i look at a lot of stuff, like the style you guys have |
| 00:08.00 | IriX64 | its consistent |
| 00:08.53 | IriX64 | if i try a diff to my brlcad2 svn thing, do the old diffs stay? |
| 00:11.18 | IriX64 | remebering of course "my system is strange" :) |
| 00:15.40 | IriX64 | remeber when i started with 7.6.2? i still can say i've never had so much fun :) |
| 00:17.44 | IriX64 | he, all because i wanted to test automake on a makefile.am :) |
| 00:17.49 | IriX64 | heh even |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33577 10/brlcad/trunk/ (TODO include/bu.h): |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: bitv shifting is now 'optimized' as in no longer calculated at run-time. since |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: bitv_t doesn't change at compile time and works equally well for large bit |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: vectors (actually a little faster if 'long' is a signficantly faster integer |
| 00:25.18 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: type than 'long long' even on a 64-bit platform). that makes us ready to |
| 00:25.21 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: release if testing goes well. still need a mega-mged test script to make sure |
| 00:25.23 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: libged integration is good. |
| 00:27.26 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33578 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: given the libged integration, we do need to write mged test script to exhaustively exercise all commands before doing a release. |
| 00:29.56 | ``Erik | "svn diff > version.patch" and then manually review it |
| 00:31.54 | IriX64 | thanks man |
| 00:33.53 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33579 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: |
| 00:33.53 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: victor provided a reproducible case where xpush blows steaming chunks and fails |
| 00:33.53 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: miserably to do its job leaving the db in a destroyed state. looks like it is |
| 00:33.53 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: stopping halfway through the task but gives no indication that anything goes |
| 00:33.54 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: wrong. |
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| 00:38.02 | ``Erik | neato |
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| 00:58.53 | *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || GSoC 2008 Highlight: new prototype gui, check it out! || Source Release 7.14.0 is now posted (20081108) |
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| 01:10.33 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.com/mario.dulisse2/frame.png :) |
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| 01:23.43 | ``Erik | grats on the masters, twingy |
| 01:24.34 | ``Erik | neato, more tkhtml breakage |
| 01:26.28 | Twingy | I didn't get a masters |
| 01:30.38 | ``Erik | oh, I heard you did |
| 01:30.53 | ``Erik | guess the grapevine twisted the message :) you were going for a masters at gatech, right? |
| 01:32.12 | Twingy | yes, I stopped that over a year ago |
| 01:32.20 | ``Erik | heh |
| 01:32.22 | Twingy | I'm pursuing a masters in computer engineering now |
| 01:32.42 | ``Erik | ah, cool |
| 01:36.39 | mafm | night |
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| 04:05.43 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 05:12.52 | Dr_Phreakenstein | hello, yukonbob |
| 05:13.19 | Dr_Phreakenstein | (sorry, got some serious lag here ;) ) |
| 05:17.09 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob |
| 05:44.58 | yukonbob | hey Dr_Phreakenstein |
| 05:45.04 | yukonbob | brlcad: long time, no chat :) |
| 05:48.26 | brlcad | indeed! |
| 06:02.45 | yukonbob | what's happening, my Internet friend? |
| 06:03.13 | yukonbob | (is capatalizing Internet considered Bad Form these days? I think it's passe') |
| 06:03.15 | yukonbob | *internet |
| 06:04.22 | brlcad | nah |
| 06:04.40 | brlcad | going pretty good |
| 06:04.50 | brlcad | lot of irons in the fire, but made some progress today |
| 06:05.33 | yukonbob | nice... |
| 06:05.49 | yukonbob | interesting news to talk about? |
| 06:06.05 | yukonbob | is getting into cmake (after owning the book for almost a year) |
| 06:06.17 | yukonbob | is also getting into cross compiling (mingw) |
| 06:06.27 | yukonbob | ...and more hardcore Tcl... |
| 06:06.34 | brlcad | cool |
| 06:07.07 | yukonbob | ...and looking forward to getting the lastest ITcl/ITk (branded "ng") running so he can get over this no-brl-cad drought... |
| 06:07.15 | brlcad | biggest news is probably that libged is coming to completion, getting integrated with mged now, and will soon hopefully provoke the merging of mged and archer |
| 06:07.20 | yukonbob | I don't know when the last time I had it installed was :P |
| 06:07.34 | yukonbob | ah, I miss mged |
| 06:08.41 | yukonbob | once I finally get it installed, I want to a) start modelling again (speedos) b) delve into programming against librt |
| 06:09.05 | yukonbob | I'll be picking your brain... |
| 06:09.54 | yukonbob | actually has some only-secondarily related-to-brl-cad questions for you, but I'll collect some info and formulate good questions before I start wasting time... |
| 06:10.31 | brlcad | looks forward to it |
| 06:10.37 | yukonbob | :) |
| 06:11.10 | yukonbob | you have any news re: itcl/itk ng? I've heard that they pass all the test suites, but I haven't tried building for quite a few weeks... |
| 06:11.18 | yukonbob | what's the tree use? |
| 06:11.21 | brlcad | librt is easy .. since you're so interested in tcl, you might be more keen on mged/archer enhancements |
| 06:11.42 | brlcad | I tried it about 6-8 weeks ago |
| 06:11.46 | brlcad | and it failed miserably |
| 06:11.47 | yukonbob | success? |
| 06:11.48 | yukonbob | ha |
| 06:11.50 | yukonbob | *ah |
| 06:11.51 | yukonbob | :P |
| 06:11.56 | yukonbob | fsck |
| 06:12.18 | yukonbob | itcl/itk are still aboslutely required though, correct? |
| 06:12.19 | brlcad | it's changed a fair bit since then, worth another try |
| 06:12.24 | brlcad | absolutely, yes |
| 06:12.42 | brlcad | there's more than 100k lines of itcl/itk code |
| 06:12.44 | yukonbob | ya -- test scores have gone up, which is promising ... I monitor the wiki page occasionally .... |
| 06:12.55 | brlcad | monitors the trackers |
| 06:13.01 | yukonbob | itcl is certainly a blessing and a curse... |
| 06:13.09 | yukonbob | ?trackers |
| 06:13.16 | brlcad | the sf trackers |
| 06:13.19 | yukonbob | ah |
| 06:13.31 | brlcad | all bug reports, feature requests, support requests, patches |
| 06:13.39 | yukonbob | ya |
| 06:13.51 | brlcad | easier to see when someone is actually busy |
| 06:14.01 | brlcad | as opposed to just being all talk |
| 06:14.06 | brlcad | on the lists |
| 06:14.07 | yukonbob | true, true. |
| 06:15.04 | yukonbob | goes to see latest news/details on itcl/itk, setup test env... |
| 06:20.21 | PrezKennedyIII | i wish i could go on just a couple hours of sleep like brlcad can :( |
| 06:20.32 | PrezKennedyIII | waves good night |
| 06:20.39 | brlcad | it's easier the more you do it |
| 06:20.55 | brlcad | plenty of time to sleep when you're dead |
| 06:20.59 | PrezKennedyIII | ive tried... it doesn't work for me |
| 06:21.04 | PrezKennedyIII | i need about 6-8 hours |
| 06:21.09 | brlcad | one/two time tries don't do jack |
| 06:21.12 | brlcad | has to be habitual |
| 06:21.32 | PrezKennedyIII | ive tried for years and i finally gave up |
| 06:21.50 | PrezKennedyIII | i need at least 6, or the day absolutely sucks |
| 06:22.09 | brlcad | 4 is about the minimum sustainable for most |
| 06:22.38 | PrezKennedyIII | besides, youll be dead sooner if you dont get enough sleep :p |
| 06:22.42 | PrezKennedyIII | catch 22 ;) |
| 06:22.47 | brlcad | nah, old wives tale |
| 06:23.09 | brlcad | there've been plenty of studies that have shown it's sustainable |
| 06:23.15 | louipc | depends on what you do to your body I suppose |
| 06:23.27 | brlcad | it's just not something you can jump into though |
| 06:24.05 | brlcad | it's like cold weather or distance running or listening to loud music |
| 06:24.13 | brlcad | your body adjusts over time |
| 06:24.51 | PrezKennedyIII | and then you can never hear the same, your knees get damaged, and you catch pneumonia |
| 06:24.54 | PrezKennedyIII | :D |
| 06:24.55 | louipc | I did 4hrs a night for about 2yrs... but I'd sleep everywhere... on the bus, waiting in line, at lunch break, ... |
| 06:25.12 | PrezKennedyIII | gnight all |
| 06:25.18 | louipc | gnite |
| 06:25.46 | PrezKennedyIII | oh yeah, brlcad... my dad is trying that whole 4 hour thing and i dont think its workin for him either |
| 06:25.55 | PrezKennedyIII | he falls asleep playing games |
| 06:25.58 | brlcad | particularly liked the discovery episode that put a northern indian/eskimo against someone from new england, testing their cold weather extremes |
| 06:26.14 | louipc | hah |
| 06:26.24 | brlcad | hooked them both up to instruments in a closed room and dropped the temperature fast to measure their responses |
| 06:26.38 | brlcad | (in their skivies only) |
| 06:26.57 | brlcad | pretty interesting to see the response graphs over time |
| 06:28.13 | brlcad | both could withstand some pretty substantial extreme colds before getting near internal organ danger temps, but the eskimo was noticably unaffected nor uncomfortable until it was near that extreme |
| 06:29.06 | louipc | so he can keep on trucking potentially to safety eh? |
| 06:29.11 | brlcad | the other dude was mostly just 'miserable' and whiny much longer |
| 06:30.01 | yukonbob | starts itcl build attempt. |
| 06:30.03 | brlcad | the indian could withstand a colder temp, but it wasn't nearly as drastic as their first measure of asking them to say when they "felt cold" |
| 06:30.05 | yukonbob | runs into first failure... |
| 06:31.02 | brlcad | you have to have a recent tcl/tk too |
| 06:31.08 | yukonbob | 8.5.6 |
| 06:31.23 | yukonbob | _has_ been working, quietly, in his lab here ;) |
| 06:42.49 | yukonbob | is stalled at this hour... |
| 06:43.08 | yukonbob | brlcad: if it's agreeable to you, I've got some general questions that I'll pose in the future... |
| 06:43.29 | yukonbob | more shared-lib/libtool/auto*-fu |
| 06:44.00 | yukonbob | prepares to hit hay --- is not on 4h sleep sched yet ;) |
| 06:53.21 | brlcad | heh |
| 07:02.56 | brlcad | wanders off to his car for a cruise |
| 08:41.20 | brlcad | wanders into the darkness |
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| 12:34.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33580 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: |
| 12:34.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: some declarations for signal handling |
| 12:34.07 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: Notice: Signals are poorly supported by MS Windows. This o.s. has its own methods to do the job. Using signals means to target a Unix o.s.. |
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| 12:38.38 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r33581 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/BrlcadCore.def: added one more function to export |
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| 14:20.58 | mafm | hi |
| 14:23.58 | brlcad | howdy |
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| 15:08.35 | yukonbob | brlcad: speaking of 4h sleeping schedules, are you a coffee (or tea, jolt, etc) drinker? |
| 15:15.24 | ``Erik | coffee made with bawls, pheer |
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| 16:14.25 | brlcad | yukonbob: I go through phases, but yeah sure |
| 16:15.08 | brlcad | usually a couple weeks on, few weeks off, so I never get used to it (and then it also usually does its job very well if I need it) |
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| 20:21.52 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33582 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (4 files in 2 dirs): move utilization of vmath.h |
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| 20:54.36 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33583 10/brlcad/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 20:54.36 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: daniel makes a good point about signals on windows. instead of making the code |
| 20:54.36 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: specific to signals, make the api attempt to suspend interruptions (with various |
| 20:54.36 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: signals being one form of an interrupt). on mac and windows, this might also |
| 20:54.36 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: include buffering various gui events (like the close button) that may have |
| 20:54.38 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: independent callbacks. hide the two new bu_*_signal() routines as an |
| 20:54.40 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: implementation detail for now since it's not readily needed anywhere else and |
| 20:56.41 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33584 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/signal.c: rename prep |
| 21:00.22 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33585 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): rename signal.c to interrupt.c |
| 21:03.38 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33586 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (chgview.c cmd.c facedef.c rtif.c track.c utility1.c): s/interupts/interrupts/g typo |
| 21:10.12 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33587 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: |
| 21:10.12 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: should refactor mged's signal handling so that any long-running command can be |
| 21:10.12 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: interrupted safely. as it is, with the sig2/sig3 interrupt handler using |
| 21:10.12 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: longjmp's, just about any librt call might leave the dbip in a bad state. |
| 21:13.53 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33588 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libutil/ (Makefile.am camera.c camera.h umath.c umath.h): eliminate umath and camera |
| 21:14.15 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33589 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (25 files in 5 dirs): use vmath where possible |
| 21:56.03 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33590 10/brlcad/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs): move mersenne twister random number generator from ADRT's libutil to libbn |
| 21:58.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33591 10/brlcad/trunk/ (9 files in 8 dirs): eliminate src/adrt/libutil and src/adrt/libcommon |
| 22:06.18 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33592 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: src/adrt/libcommon is GONE, man |
| 22:13.40 | kanzure | I have a set of points that represent a path that I'd like to model. These points would be, say, used to guide a drill bit. Is there a way for me to do this easily via BRLCAD? |
| 22:14.00 | kanzure | Previously I was attempting to plot tubing using those coords, but there were one too many things going wrong that I haven't been able to track down. |
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| 23:37.06 | kanzure | Hey elite01. |
| 23:37.38 | elite01 | yo kanzure :D |
| 23:37.41 | elite01 | waves |
| 23:37.52 | kanzure | waves back. |
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