| 00:09.11 | mafm_ | sleepy time, night! |
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| 02:13.08 | starseeker | has figured out how to get videos onto rockbox Ipod <evil grin> :-) |
| 02:19.43 | Ralith | you can get videos onto rockbox anything |
| 02:19.45 | Ralith | it's pretty insane |
| 02:19.57 | Ralith | even my 4-tone-grayscale iaudio can do video thanks to rockbox. |
| 02:20.28 | madant | is flabbergasted |
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| 07:02.56 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33530 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (bwish/main.c mged/setup.c): |
| 07:02.56 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: Itcl_Init() leaves initialization in a bad state if it fails causing a failure |
| 07:02.56 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: the second time through during initialization (we try once as-is, then once |
| 07:02.56 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: again after setting up auto_path and friends via tclcad_auto_path(). this gets |
| 07:02.57 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: rid of the failure and associated failure message. |
| 07:06.27 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33531 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (bwish/main.c mged/setup.c): comment on the stupid Itcl_Init() behavior for comprehending down the road. |
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| 10:57.31 | mafm | hallo |
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| 11:24.37 | d-lo | Mernin all. |
| 11:39.24 | mafm | mernin :) |
| 13:32.49 | brlcad | howdy |
| 13:33.12 | d-lo | howdy howdy |
| 13:33.22 | d-lo | starseeker: How did the Photoshoot go? |
| 13:33.52 | archivist | starseeker pr0n? |
| 13:33.59 | d-lo | brlcad: I can't remember, did you get the D40 or D50? |
| 13:34.27 | d-lo | archivist: Depends on your definition of that. But it involves sexy army tanks :) |
| 13:34.38 | archivist | :) |
| 13:37.10 | archivist | Im slowly researching one of the first tank experiments which was a local event |
| 13:38.11 | brlcad | d-lo: D90 |
| 13:38.27 | d-lo | ah, Samsonite. I was way off. |
| 13:39.20 | brlcad | samsonite? |
| 13:39.32 | d-lo | bad joke from 'Dumb and Dumber' |
| 13:40.17 | brlcad | ah, heh, right |
| 13:47.04 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33532 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: |
| 13:47.04 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: the incrTcl pathing issues should now all be fixed when using system tcl/tk. |
| 13:47.04 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: the result, though, is that now there is some other initialization bug that |
| 13:47.04 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: causes mged to crash (bwish works) inside the display manager on X11 calls. |
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| 14:13.18 | starseeker | d-lo: quite well, actually |
| 14:13.26 | starseeker | archivist: tank pr0n :-) |
| 14:13.32 | archivist | :) |
| 14:13.55 | starseeker | nice tank photos, was working on them this weekend actually |
| 14:13.55 | archivist | you got mk1 permission? |
| 14:14.04 | starseeker | mk1? |
| 14:14.26 | starseeker | mark 1 you mean? |
| 14:14.33 | archivist | the very early ww1 tank |
| 14:14.41 | starseeker | we switched to the Mark VIII |
| 14:14.56 | starseeker | have the handbook of the guts - very useful for this sort of thing :-) |
| 14:15.25 | starseeker | early British docs are stuck in their National Archives, but the Mark VIII was produced in the US :-) |
| 14:15.35 | starseeker | better odds |
| 14:16.15 | archivist | I have to go to London sometime to rummage for the prototype stuff |
| 14:17.26 | starseeker | cool |
| 14:18.03 | starseeker | If there is a museum somewhere that has plans for the Mark I or Mark IV and wouldn't slap copyright on any copies, that would be interesting |
| 14:18.07 | archivist | holiday work, when I get a new round tuit |
| 14:18.12 | starseeker | nods |
| 14:18.45 | archivist | differen museums have different attitudes |
| 14:19.26 | starseeker | right - but it wouldn't make much sense for an open source project to work hard to get ahold of photographs that can't be used in an open source context |
| 14:19.44 | starseeker | archivist: Your work might have more flexibility though |
| 14:20.22 | archivist | its all about generating money to sustain the museums |
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| 14:20.40 | starseeker | Oh, sure |
| 14:20.48 | starseeker | I never said I didn't understand the motivation |
| 14:21.05 | starseeker | but I happen to think it's one of the things tax dollars are SUPPOSED to be used for |
| 14:21.06 | archivist | my project will be a small book with local interest |
| 14:21.39 | archivist | UK museums are tending to be independent charities these days |
| 14:21.46 | starseeker | you never know ;-) |
| 14:23.43 | starseeker | that's a pity :-( |
| 14:23.44 | archivist | amongst the old computer collectors there is a lot of scanning and placing online going on. dont see too many companies beating them up yet |
| 14:24.16 | archivist | one or two are positively helping |
| 14:24.50 | starseeker | the distinction between "Can sue successfully, but aren't" and "Can't sue successfully" is important to a lot of folks in the open source world |
| 14:25.12 | starseeker | although the legal system is so murky sometimes I think the distinction is a bit fuzzy - see SCO :-/ |
| 14:26.05 | archivist | I watched SCO from the beginning |
| 14:26.55 | starseeker | almost wondered with that latest bit of news if SCO is deliberately trying to be the biggest jerk possible to the open source world, just for the sake of being a jerk |
| 14:27.17 | starseeker | selling off the remaining actual assets simply to pursue litigation... ugh |
| 14:27.23 | starseeker | feels queasy |
| 14:30.17 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33533 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: minor comment |
| 14:30.41 | archivist | some just dont know when they are beaten |
| 14:31.18 | starseeker | predicts some flash based game where zombies wearing the SCO logo are chasing after penguins |
| 14:31.27 | archivist | hehe |
| 14:43.24 | ``Erik | sco was a good guy in the early 80's :( it was the caldera buyout and change in mgmt that made 'em suck |
| 14:44.03 | ``Erik | and the chief jerk, darl mcbride, had fucked up a slew of other companies before the one we just happened to notice |
| 16:58.52 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33534 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/ (4 files in 3 dirs): all text files should have a trailing newline for parsing/portability/consistency. |
| 17:03.47 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33535 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added missing newline |
| 17:08.38 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33536 10/rt^3/trunk/autogen.sh: sync from upstream (brlcad module) to get the lastest changes from sebastian. |
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| 17:17.33 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33537 10/rt^3/trunk/misc/ (footer.sh header.sh indent.sh template.sh): sync template and indent scripts with brlcad module |
| 17:18.13 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33538 10/brlcad/trunk/ (2134 files in 148 dirs): a dozen days overdue, but welcome in the Ox. hail 2009. |
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| 17:19.44 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/stealth.png <---- your svn code as of an hour or so ago :) |
| 17:20.55 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33539 10/rt^3/trunk/ (193 files in 22 dirs): welcome our Ox overlords. update copyright to 2009. |
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| 17:27.52 | brlcad | IriX64: the picture doesn't change. please no more pictures of havoc. |
| 17:28.06 | IriX64 | noted thank you |
| 17:28.58 | IriX64 | if i take that to russia, think they'll give me a ride in it :) |
| 17:30.25 | IriX64 | that tkhtml3 install thing, any word? |
| 17:30.40 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33540 10/brlcad/trunk/ (INSTALL doc/README.MacOSX): include some additional documentation on enabling 64-bit compilation and details on universal builds for mac |
| 17:31.52 | brlcad | I need more detail than "that tkhtml3 install thing" |
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| 17:36.36 | IriX64 | ill re-install and pastebin the error messsages |
| 17:40.41 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/gb5sTW33.html <--- install time error |
| 17:41.31 | IriX64 | wasn't sure i should let you see it, my system is not normal but it is unixish in nature |
| 17:46.01 | brlcad | IriX64: what's not normal is that you still say that same "my system is not normal" disclaimer after what? 3 years? |
| 17:46.49 | IriX64 | heh im "trying" to make it normal :) |
| 17:47.43 | IriX64 | figured you'd see cygdrive and be all over me :) |
| 17:48.37 | brlcad | have I ever been? |
| 17:48.45 | brlcad | you say that every time too |
| 17:48.56 | IriX64 | much to your credit as a channel op, you have ;) |
| 17:49.45 | brlcad | i've not been on you for running cygwin, I've been on you for random chatter in the channel and useless pastebins |
| 17:50.10 | IriX64 | true, ill avoid usefull pastebens like the plague |
| 17:50.38 | brlcad | as for that install error in tkhtml3, looks like maybe you're compiling against a system Tcl/Tk? |
| 17:50.56 | IriX64 | btw cp tclsh.exe tclsh85.exe works wonders as a workaround |
| 17:51.01 | IriX64 | no your tcl tk |
| 17:51.44 | IriX64 | i tried system 8.5.5, error is still there and at run time you guys tell me you have 8.5.5 but we need exactly whatever your version is |
| 17:51.54 | brlcad | then it looks like Tcl didn't compile correctly |
| 17:52.50 | IriX64 | i deinstalled my 8.5.5 |
| 17:53.16 | IriX64 | much to your credit tho configure found it and everyybody was happy at build time |
| 17:53.59 | brlcad | what? |
| 17:54.15 | IriX64 | tcl/tk8.5.5 |
| 17:54.57 | brlcad | you're not making sense |
| 17:55.03 | brlcad | is that a install failure or is it not? |
| 17:55.17 | brlcad | the pastebin indicates that it cannot run tclsh |
| 17:55.59 | brlcad | it's failing inside the init.tcl initial load script, which shouldn't happen unless you've got other parts of tcl messed up |
| 17:56.25 | brlcad | it could be a tcl build system bug, in which case you should report it to their tracker |
| 17:56.53 | IriX64 | understood |
| 17:57.55 | brlcad | can even give them the exact same pastebin text for the bug report |
| 17:58.07 | IriX64 | thanks i will |
| 17:58.10 | brlcad | could try installing tclsh first, then see if it runs |
| 17:58.22 | brlcad | i.e. just run "tclsh" .. see if it gives you that message |
| 17:59.01 | IriX64 | i get the % prompt |
| 17:59.38 | brlcad | is that the tclsh that was just built? |
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| 18:00.02 | brlcad | yukonbob: wb |
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| 18:02.26 | IriX64 | tclsh8.5 gives me a % prompt yes |
| 18:06.20 | brlcad | then it sounds like it's something screwy probably in the tkhtml build |
| 18:06.30 | brlcad | not a tcl build bug |
| 18:06.35 | IriX64 | agreed |
| 18:07.09 | brlcad | probably something with either TCL_LIBRARY or TCLLIBPATH on that line |
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| 20:50.08 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/jeep.png <--- no more havoc's :) |
| 20:51.21 | louipc | IriX64: I think the point is unless you have something original or revolutionary screenshots are not welcome |
| 20:51.28 | louipc | :P |
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| 22:53.12 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/poolio.png <--- something new :) |
