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| 00:42.44 | starseeker | ``Erik: You're running haiku? |
| 00:43.34 | starseeker | brlcad: I'm being nominated to fix picket fence? |
| 00:43.36 | starseeker | makes note |
| 00:50.53 | ``Erik | nope, starseeker, I just like being a pita |
| 00:51.21 | ``Erik | haiku is more up jay-lo and brlcad's alley, I'm more of a unix classicist, more likely to have hpux, aix, or *bsd |
| 00:52.43 | ``Erik | this is annoying, I wanna go poop, but I don't wanna miss the end of this atlantis, I haven't seen it before |
| 00:52.47 | ``Erik | curses his lack of tivo |
| 00:56.53 | ``Erik | O.O |
| 00:57.02 | ``Erik | wow, I'm glad I didn't leave, that was... not very tv like |
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| 01:47.10 | starseeker | heh - boing |
| 01:47.34 | ``Erik | eh? |
| 01:47.44 | ``Erik | keep your boners private, boy |
| 01:48.40 | starseeker | no no - brlcad's in and out of the channel |
| 01:48.49 | starseeker | what was the weird ending - movie like? |
| 01:49.48 | ``Erik | um, on atlantis, two people were body swapped, one was about to be killed, they unfuxxed the body swap, the one with the gun to the head said "no, it's me" and started spouting facts, the dude with the gun said "I don't believe you", cut to black, bang |
| 01:50.51 | ``Erik | thinks the writers heard about the cancellation before writing the last few episodes and said "fuck bubblegum and lollipops, let's do it good" |
| 01:51.47 | ``Erik | this episode has been fairly dark and grim, highly unusual (using marylin manson and johnny cash in the audio), ... I'm actually excited to see the next :D |
| 01:52.59 | starseeker | ah |
| 01:53.10 | starseeker | cheerful |
| 01:53.51 | ``Erik | ah, this'd be the episode lee talked about, with the 5mph a10's |
| 01:54.18 | Ralith | ``Erik: yeah, but you *know* cut-to-black-bang means someone *else* got shot or something. |
| 01:54.45 | ``Erik | nah, was a one-shot character |
| 01:54.48 | Ralith | also 5mph a10s would be pretty awesome for the first few seconds |
| 01:54.50 | Ralith | oh, ok |
| 01:54.50 | ``Erik | who was a "grey" figure |
| 01:54.52 | Ralith | in that case awesome |
| 01:55.02 | Ralith | (after the first few seconds they would run out of ammo) |
| 01:55.20 | ``Erik | I d'no, a10's carry a LOT of 30mm rounds |
| 01:55.32 | Ralith | hm? I thought all they had was the big axial gun. |
| 01:55.34 | ``Erik | they could burn off the gun a dozen times over with the their load |
| 01:55.44 | Ralith | 'burn off'? |
| 01:55.46 | ``Erik | they have the big 30 up front, plus whatever's on the pods |
| 01:55.59 | ``Erik | uhm, guns generate heat, heat dissepation is an issue |
| 01:56.05 | Ralith | ah yeah. |
| 01:56.10 | Ralith | that thing's only 30mm? |
| 01:56.10 | ``Erik | portable machine guns have big air coolers, some even had water coolers |
| 01:56.19 | Ralith | could've sworn it was bigger. |
| 01:56.27 | Ralith | anyway, you know how fast it fires |
| 01:56.29 | ``Erik | 30mm DU rounds will punch through just about any tanks top armor |
| 01:56.39 | ``Erik | most aircraft carry 14.4 or 20mm |
| 01:56.50 | ``Erik | with a fraction of the load of an a10 |
| 01:56.59 | Ralith | it might carry tons of ammo but it fires at ridiculous rates |
| 01:57.11 | ``Erik | oh yeah |
| 01:57.19 | ``Erik | but it can only do short bursts before it has to stop to cool |
| 01:57.28 | Ralith | point |
| 01:58.00 | Ralith | someone should apply the a10 concept to a helicopter :D |
| 01:58.23 | ``Erik | um |
| 01:58.26 | ``Erik | they call it the apache? |
| 01:58.29 | ``Erik | :D |
| 01:58.44 | ``Erik | ah64? |
| 01:59.02 | ``Erik | or, dare I say it, the HIN-E |
| 01:59.05 | PrezKennedy | they brought the heli concept over ti planes with a-10 is more like it |
| 01:59.12 | PrezKennedy | *to |
| 02:00.00 | ``Erik | a10 is '72, ah64 is '81 |
| 02:00.05 | ``Erik | care to rethink? :D |
| 02:00.21 | ``Erik | all hail wikipedia |
| 02:01.07 | Ralith | ``Erik: bah, rocket pods don't count. |
| 02:01.28 | Ralith | I mean ridiculously huge gun :D |
| 02:02.00 | Ralith | (although recoil would probably crash the thing) |
| 02:02.20 | ``Erik | the nose gun on the ah64 is pretty brutal, especially with the helmet controlled aim |
| 02:02.30 | Ralith | they have helmet controlled aim? |
| 02:02.32 | Ralith | cooool |
| 02:02.45 | ``Erik | yeah, the gunner looks at the target, the 30mm gun points there |
| 02:02.58 | ``Erik | there's a reticule on a flip down pane that provides crosshairs |
| 02:03.08 | Ralith | that's pretty awesome |
| 02:03.24 | Ralith | hopefully it aligns quickly? |
| 02:03.26 | ``Erik | it's an m230, not a gau8, slower rate of fire, MUCH smaller ammo suppy |
| 02:03.28 | ``Erik | instantly |
| 02:03.36 | Ralith | nice! |
| 02:03.50 | ``Erik | the apache one is a single bolt feeder, the a10 one is a 6 barrel gattlign |
| 02:04.12 | ``Erik | again, heat dissipation issue :D |
| 02:04.18 | Ralith | yup. |
| 02:04.35 | Ralith | I want a helicopter gunship :( |
| 02:04.55 | Ralith | is it still a practical antitank weapon at low rates of fire like that? |
| 02:05.02 | ``Erik | meh, if your'e gonna go to a gunship, why not get an ac130? |
| 02:05.16 | ``Erik | yes, the bullets penetrate most top armor |
| 02:05.25 | PrezKennedy | <3 ac-130 |
| 02:05.41 | ``Erik | howitzer with wings |
| 02:05.42 | PrezKennedy | favorite part of the movie Transformers is when they call in one of those |
| 02:06.09 | Ralith | ah, that thing |
| 02:06.29 | Ralith | eh, hard to be personal about it when you're that far away. |
| 02:06.37 | Ralith | and none of the awesome heli maneuvering, either. |
| 02:06.43 | ``Erik | tanks are built with most of the armor on the front glacis, the big deal about the tow missile is that it flies OVER the target and shoots down, into the thinner top armor... aircraft happen to always hit the top armor |
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| 02:07.36 | ``Erik | hehehe, screw heli maneuvers, a specters usual pattern is to acquire an "orbit" and pummel the target from like ten miles out |
| 02:07.59 | Ralith | yeah, I know |
| 02:08.03 | Ralith | but it's not as cool :( |
| 02:08.26 | ``Erik | well, it's like comparing drag racers to formula 100's |
| 02:08.33 | ``Erik | they're built for very different purposes |
| 02:08.54 | Ralith | yup |
| 02:49.09 | ``Erik | itches to jabber about spoilers O.o |
| 03:06.28 | Ralith | ? |
| 03:12.37 | ``Erik | stargate atlantis |
| 03:12.56 | ``Erik | it ended much putzier than I woulda hoped, given the two preceding episodes :( |
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| 03:39.37 | brlcad | ``Erik: it's not over, though -- they've openly said there will be at least one or probably two movies coming out afterwards |
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| 04:09.33 | ``Erik | guess that'd explain the putz ending |
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| 04:34.38 | Dr_Phreakenstein | . |
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| 10:27.04 | csanyipal | howdy! |
| 10:29.30 | csanyipal | I'm making a tutorial for my pupils, using the "Introduction to MGED" tutorial. I get an error message in MGED when doing: menu / Edit / Primitive Editor |
| 10:29.52 | csanyipal | This is at page 49 in the tutorial. |
| 10:30.05 | csanyipal | The error message is: |
| 10:32.44 | csanyipal | extra switch pattern with no body, this may be due to a comment incorrectly placed outside of a switch body - see the "switch" documentation extra switch pattern with no body, this may be due to a comment incorrectly placed outside of a switch body - see the "switch" documentation while executing "switch -glob $fe_type {# bu_vls type arguments are %V, char arrays are %s.# XXX - %S is DEPRECATED [7.14]{%*[sSV]} { if $do_gui {en..." |
| 10:32.44 | csanyipal | (procedure "esol_build_form" line 49) invoked from within "esol_build_form $id $w $esol_control($id,type) $vals 1 1 1" (procedure "esol_build_default_form" line 22) invoked from within "esol_build_default_form $id $w.sformF" (procedure "init_edit_solid" line 90) invoked from within "init_edit_solid id_0" invoked from within ".topid_0.#topid_0#menubar.#topid_0#menubar##id_0#menubar#edit invoke active" ("uplevel" body line 1) inv |
| 10:32.45 | csanyipal | oked from within "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke active]" (procedure "cad_MenuInvoke" line 33) invoked from within "cad_MenuInvoke .topid_0.#topid_0#menubar.#topid_0#menubar##id_0#menubar#edit 1" (command bound to event) |
| 10:32.59 | csanyipal | Is this a bug? |
| 10:40.28 | csanyipal | I have BRL-CAD version 7.14.1 from SVN. |
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| 12:38.22 | brlcad | csanyipal: yep, that's probably a very recent bug (probably specific to 7.14.1) |
| 12:47.22 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33517 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/Makefile.am: there are no longer manpages in this dir to dist |
| 12:50.27 | csanyipal | brlcad: Thank You! |
| 12:52.18 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33518 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 12:52.18 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: bob fixed a recently introduced issue with the make command in mged where it was |
| 12:52.18 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: creating objects using object keypoints instead of the view center. this was |
| 12:52.18 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: reported by butler et al via sf bug #2279233 (mged "make" command changed). |
| 12:54.14 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33519 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: related to the make command fixes, bob also tweaked the scale sizes for various primitives including grip, hyp, part, rcc, rec, rhc, rpc, tec, tgc, trc and all arbs |
| 12:56.12 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33520 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 12:56.12 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: bob fixed the -u option to bot_dump so that the user can specify units. the |
| 12:56.12 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: problem was simply that argument processing wasn't reading the unit value |
| 12:56.12 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: (missing colon on getopt). this fixes the sf bug #2279400 (bot_dump -u option |
| 12:56.14 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: problems) reported by butler et al on the modeling team. |
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| 19:07.48 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33521 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/tclcadAutoPath.c: |
| 19:07.50 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: fix the long-standing load problems with finding itcl.tcl at runtime when we're |
| 19:07.52 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: not installed yet. it turns out that incrTcl doesn't use the auto_path to look |
| 19:07.54 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: for its own files, it uses an init script that only checks relative to |
| 19:07.56 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: tcl_library and the ITCL_LIBRARY environment variable. we can't use the prior, |
| 19:07.58 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: so we use the latter. |
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| 19:20.33 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33522 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/tclcadAutoPath.c: |
| 19:20.33 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: add some protections so that the user can still manually override ITCL_LIBRARY |
| 19:20.33 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: and ITK_LIBRARY and have the values respected. we do only respect it, though, |
| 19:20.33 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: if we find an itcl.tcl and itk.tcl file there otherwise the automatic searching |
| 19:20.34 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: still tries to find a match. |
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| 22:08.20 | csanyipal | Hello! I try to use the Overlap Tool - brlcad version 7.14.1 |
| 22:09.49 | csanyipal | I can't get such an image as in the "Introduction to MGED" tutorial at page 53. |
| 22:10.00 | csanyipal | How can I get this picture? |
| 22:18.06 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33523 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: |
| 22:18.08 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: fixed a run-time failure where mged would fail to start up giving an error |
| 22:18.10 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: saying it couldn't find the itcl.tcl file. the problem is due to incrTcl |
| 22:18.12 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: ignoring the auto_path during Itcl_Init(), so it needed a little more |
| 22:18.14 | CIA-65 | BRL-CAD: encouragement via setting ITCL_LIBRARY. |
| 22:34.12 | brlcad | csanyipal: that picture was probably made by intersecting the two primitives and then just ray-tracing it |
| 22:39.15 | brlcad | if you want a quick review of overlaps, you can run "rtcheck" on the command-line (rtcheck -s### so set the sample density) |
| 22:39.28 | brlcad | rotate the view after you run the command to see the overlapping segments |
| 22:39.54 | brlcad | the Overlap Tool basically does the same thing, be sure to rotate the view after running a check |
| 22:47.04 | csanyipal | brlcad: Thank You! |
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| 23:05.26 | csanyipal | So long! |