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| 05:38.24 | csanyipal | Hello! |
| 05:39.29 | pacman87 | good evening |
| 05:39.48 | csanyipal | Here is Morning. :) |
| 05:41.11 | csanyipal | I have BRL-CAD version 7.14.1 |
| 05:41.37 | csanyipal | When I create from menu a shape, I get the shape in Edit mode. Is this a normal behavior? |
| 05:44.32 | pacman87 | i just use 'in' from the command line window |
| 05:45.35 | csanyipal | ok but I'm translating the Introduction to MGED.pedf tutorial and I want to know.. |
| 05:45.45 | pacman87 | if you wait around for a few hours, you should get a response from someone more knowledgable |
| 05:45.46 | csanyipal | pdf |
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| 05:46.53 | skitter | will it be possible to edit pages in wiki, in "~/ru/wiki" folder? |
| 05:49.22 | skitter | ...and to ratify the changes made by this wiki's user then? |
| 05:50.13 | csanyipal | I must go now in the school to work.. so long.. |
| 05:50.45 | skitter | if yes, i need to re-vise 60 or so commands, part of them could not be viewed thru wiki engine, i think. |
| 05:51.08 | brlcad | csanyipal: that is expected/normal behavior |
| 05:51.24 | csanyipal | brlcad: thanks! :) |
| 05:51.45 | skitter | csanyipal: try to imagine that female-teachers teach you particular study-cases & put their clothes off simultaneously - helps!!! |
| 05:52.03 | csanyipal | skitter: :) |
| 05:52.06 | brlcad | skitter: you question doesn't make sense |
| 05:52.16 | skitter | brlcad: ok, great. |
| 05:52.16 | brlcad | it's a wiki, so if you can edit it, you can edit it |
| 05:52.52 | brlcad | "~/ru/wiki" doesn't exist |
| 05:53.04 | skitter | brlcad: then i need to transfer the rest into the xml. but i will have to do it manually |
| 05:53.20 | skitter | brlcad: well, i meant... |
| 05:53.35 | brlcad | all of the docs are going to end up in docbook format, regardless of where they are now |
| 05:54.03 | brlcad | ideally we will eventually have a means to edit the docbook masters through the website somehow |
| 05:54.11 | brlcad | whether through the wiki or some other means |
| 05:54.21 | brlcad | so that editing can be bidirectional |
| 05:55.15 | skitter | brlcad: i have loaded bad pages into the tracker - can i delete them and upload the new ones, as "finally translated" and "these ru .sml need a syntax check" ?? |
| 05:58.45 | skitter | brlcad: what if docbook has two paragraphs and an <arg></arg> arguments between them? will the wiki engine determine the grammar and build the page rightly in this case? |
| 05:59.40 | skitter | ok, i see i can not delete them if i hadn't logged in when 've uploaded them... |
| 06:03.23 | brlcad | skitter: they're your tracker items, you can remove the files and/or add new ones or add more |
| 06:03.29 | brlcad | s/more/multiple/ |
| 06:03.39 | skitter | i think 1. i can not use programming to spread the text into the xml - and do it manually (more time, less healthy) 2. someone will modify xml - and i will check commands in wiki then (being able to edit 'source' xml in a right way by means of e.g. tracker). So i plan to upload the rest (it means whole work is finished) - and wait untill |
| 06:04.42 | brlcad | if it could be easily programmed into docbook/xml, it would have already been done |
| 06:05.20 | brlcad | the "right way" is in the svn revision control system, that's where the official versions reside (or will reside) |
| 06:05.35 | skitter | brlcad: yeah, the formula "s/more/multiple/" = "sexy / more / more then more" means the way software develops |
| 06:05.38 | skitter | :) |
| 06:06.08 | skitter | brlcad: where is a root of svn? |
| 06:06.53 | skitter | uh... i can speed up the work then! |
| 06:07.46 | brlcad | substitute / this / that / |
| 06:08.08 | brlcad | the root of svn .. is in our subversion repository |
| 06:08.10 | skitter | brlcad: your strange slang says nothing to me! |
| 06:08.22 | brlcad | it's not slang, it's basic regular expression |
| 06:08.24 | skitter | brlcad: and? |
| 06:08.57 | skitter | brlcad: basic regular expression for humans are "i love you" and so on... |
| 06:09.12 | skitter | brlcad.org/wiki/SVN - 9k ?? |
| 06:09.14 | brlcad | and people only get commit access after they show competency with the commit rules, patch submission/application processes, and general well-being integration with existing developers |
| 06:12.12 | yukonbob | waves in |
| 06:12.15 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 06:12.37 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob |
| 06:13.47 | yukonbob | brlcad: 8.5.6 released today... |
| 06:16.46 | skitter | no, previous upload wasn't under my account or failed. |
| 06:16.48 | yukonbob | ^--- tcl/tk, of course ;) |
| 06:17.23 | skitter | ok, reboot |
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| 06:33.12 | skitter | brlcad: is this a trunk http://brlcad.org/wiki/Special:Upload ? |
| 06:33.36 | skitter | brlcad: or only through the sourceforge? |
| 06:44.51 | skitter | finally goes to fatty sourceforge |
| 06:47.37 | skitter | hucleberries fatty sourceforge at a day light ever! woring thru starseeker... wil have emailed him |
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| 07:05.18 | skitter | ok, quitting |
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| 08:37.31 | skitter | starseeker: final edition of the comands (lesser part) are in your e-mail box. Hope its syntax is good and all we need is just to turn wiki to quetion this files somewhere at the ~/ru folder on a server. |
| 08:39.45 | skitter | i said lesser because either those commands have left are tiny or my mged cmd index 7.10.2 isnt too new |
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| 10:47.34 | mafm | hi |
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| 13:27.49 | Axman6 | merry christmas from Aus cadheads :) |
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| 15:04.43 | brlcad | thx Axman6 |
| 15:25.34 | ``Erik | *readreadread* |
| 15:25.56 | ``Erik | wouldn't a flat end mill head in a straight line be subtracting an arb8, not a buttload of cylinders? |
| 15:27.27 | ``Erik | 668 would be the next door neighbor, 667 is across the street :D |
| 15:29.00 | ``Erik | notes that asking for a commit bit makes it take longer to get a commit bit |
| 15:29.22 | ``Erik | okie, all caught up, time to ignore ya'll for a few more days :D |
| 15:30.33 | brlcad | I don't think he even knew what he was asking for or implying |
| 15:31.20 | archivist | heh I think he does know |
| 15:32.09 | archivist | coming at it from a machinists view |
| 15:32.19 | brlcad | doubtful, asking if http://brlcad.org/wiki/Special:Upload is a trunk is silly, his complaints about sf.net are about simply loading the http pages |
| 15:33.15 | archivist | sees talking about different people |
| 15:38.54 | DanielFalck | ``Erik: yes you're right about the arb vs. a lot of cylinders |
| 16:04.22 | WhiteCalf | ahaha its the one day of the year my brother is working and im not |
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| 17:19.00 | playfulhotgirlis | "dbconcat database_file [prefix]" or "dbconcat [prefix] database_file" ?? what order of the arguments? |
| 17:21.06 | playfulhotgirlis | time |
| 17:22.26 | brlcad | dbconcat [-p|-s] file.g [prefix|suffix] |
| 17:36.54 | playfulhotgirlis | brlcad: sweet! |
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| 19:29.33 | mafm | bye |
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| 22:32.52 | Axman6 | now this has some interesting models for some adventurous brl-cad user to replicate: http://www.dimensions-math.org/Dim_regarder_E_E.htm |
| 22:41.37 | alex_joni | Axman6: those are some really cool animations |
| 22:42.04 | Axman6 | the whole series looks worth watching, i'm up to the 5th episode atm |
| 22:42.42 | alex_joni | just started with the 2nd |
| 22:43.55 | csanyipal | Hi, I try to make s model for the explanation of the azimuth in my translation of the "Introduction to MGED" tutorial. |
| 22:44.14 | csanyipal | I made a model for this purpose, it can see here: |
| 22:44.16 | csanyipal | http://s520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/csanyipal/?action=view¤t=2_Lecke_XY_sik_proba.jpg |
| 22:45.03 | csanyipal | I ask how can I make a shape that is on this picture abowe a curve arrow? |
| 23:23.08 | Axman6 | csanyipal: just curious, which language are you translating to, and is 'sik' plane in it? |
| 23:25.22 | csanyipal | It is in Hungarian and yes, sik is a plan. |
| 23:25.38 | csanyipal | this plane is an arb8 |
| 23:26.02 | csanyipal | 1 mm high |
| 23:26.09 | Axman6 | righto :) |
| 23:26.28 | Axman6 | it's been a long time since i've played with brl-cad actually. need to check it out again |
| 23:26.32 | Ralith | what happens if you intersect a true plane with a volume, anyway? |
| 23:26.40 | Ralith | (i.e. arb8 with only 4 unique coords) |
| 23:29.49 | csanyipal | Ralith: If I understand you correct, you get a plan that isn't an infinite plane. |
| 23:31.01 | Ralith | csanyipal, but what happens when you intersect that with a volume? |
| 23:31.48 | csanyipal | Ralith: theorethical, or in MGED? |
| 23:32.08 | Ralith | as rendered |
| 23:32.19 | Ralith | mged won't care |
| 23:32.55 | csanyipal | Ralith: first, I can't to create a plane in MGED.. |
| 23:33.02 | Ralith | yes you can |
| 23:33.07 | csanyipal | how? |
| 23:33.11 | Ralith | arb8 with all points on a plane |
| 23:33.34 | Ralith | iow a rectangular prism with one dimension = 0 |
| 23:33.35 | csanyipal | You mena an arb8 that hasn't a hight? |
| 23:33.43 | csanyipal | mean |
| 23:34.16 | Ralith | that is one example of the set of shapes I described. |
| 23:38.21 | csanyipal | So, to get a "curve cylinder" I must first to make a torus, and two planes and then with boolean regulars I must to get an intersect of these shapes? |
| 23:39.51 | csanyipal | Are there a simpler method for this? |
| 23:46.56 | Ralith | what's a "curve cylinder"? |
| 23:47.14 | Ralith | look at the mged quick reference sheet; there's lots of primitives that might be what you want |
| 23:50.32 | csanyipal | "curve cylinder" doesn't exist I just call it this way to explain somehow what kind of shape I need.. |
| 23:52.37 | csanyipal | This shape is on the picture in the "Introduction to MGED" tutorial at the page 18. |
| 23:53.02 | csanyipal | The "Azimuth, Elevation, and the xyz Coordinate System" picture |
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| 23:54.23 | csanyipal | this is the shape that represents the Azimuth on this picture |
