| 00:38.23 | mafm | night! |
| 00:50.48 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33353 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/search.h: fix for osX.5 |
| 00:58.07 | ``Erik_ | (has u_int in sys/types.h, but it wasn't being included *shrug* -> unsigned int was easy, hopefully not wrong) |
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| 01:35.08 | brlcad | looked benign |
| 01:37.52 | rawer_ | brlcad: what are my regails when i'm coming into the channel, those in bold text ? |
| 01:38.16 | rawer_ | is it fun.fun.fun. - naturfood.net ?? |
| 01:38.31 | brlcad | rawer_: que? |
| 01:38.49 | brlcad | ~dict regails |
| 01:39.13 | rawer_ | i meant what does it write |
| 01:39.24 | rawer_ | does it shows my ip ? |
| 01:39.27 | brlcad | yep |
| 01:39.35 | rawer_ | which one? |
| 01:39.42 | brlcad | 20:39 -!- rawer_ [n=ubuntu@217.8.236.161] has joined #brlcad |
| 01:39.54 | rawer_ | oh... |
| 01:40.42 | brlcad | we do have cloaks that I could give out, but you'd still have to register to get one |
| 01:41.00 | brlcad | speaking of such, if anyone wants a cloak, lemme know |
| 01:41.13 | rawer_ | i don't need cloaks, i prefer some resilient as5 |
| 01:41.16 | brlcad | tears a big ol' hole into one of his walls |
| 01:50.10 | rawer_ | i will quit to re-install the system |
| 01:51.11 | rawer_ | brlcad: so what happens when i upload archive to into the brl-cad's tracker? |
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| 01:51.40 | rawer_ | shall I save a link or something? |
| 01:51.54 | rawer_ | to give it to another human... |
| 01:55.40 | *** part/#brlcad rawer_ (n=ubuntu@217.8.236.161) |
| 02:07.39 | brlcad | Ralith: you can put a link or upload it as an attachment |
| 02:07.55 | brlcad | you could also upload it via anonymous ftp to brlcad.org/incoming |
| 02:08.06 | Ralith | you probably meant rawer |
| 02:08.07 | Ralith | who just left |
| 02:08.10 | Ralith | >_> |
| 02:09.23 | brlcad | oops, yep I did |
| 02:09.34 | brlcad | read s/left/joined/ |
| 02:10.04 | brlcad | Ralith: well then maybe you can't upload it as an attachment ;) |
| 02:10.24 | Ralith | perhaps not! |
| 02:24.08 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33354 10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: |
| 02:24.08 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: merge in more changes from Sebastian Pipping's git tree, commit |
| 02:24.08 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: fe2e3ecadce19faa426595da2572b090bd3769b9 (Add download code using wget or curl, |
| 02:24.08 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: as available). made a few mods to make the download of config.guess optional |
| 02:24.09 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: (and default to off for now) and toggleable based on a DOWNLOAD var. |
| 02:27.52 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33355 10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: add command-line -d|--download switches for turning DOWNLOAD on |
| 02:41.20 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33356 10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: apply Sebastian Pipping's 18a5403c34555594184b6d28c200cdefb778bfdd commit from his git tree (libtoolize detection added for config.guess download after autoreconf, add /me to authors) with a few minor mods. |
| 02:50.39 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33357 10/brlcad/trunk/autogen.sh: |
| 02:50.39 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: and the last change by sebastian pipping, from git commit |
| 02:50.39 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 320ee0c022636152b173ecd9b57a373fce02b1a4 (Separate availability check and actual |
| 02:50.39 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: download, report versions, add support for fetch). includes a few (untested) |
| 02:50.39 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: minor mods to push the actual download line to a one-liner. |
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| 11:11.46 | mafm | ho ho ho |
| 11:53.46 | mafm | meh, nobody likes my santa's-like greeting :P |
| 12:00.44 | archivist | chucks a snowball at mafm bah humbug |
| 12:08.34 | mafm | :þ |
| 12:10.03 | mafm | christmas spirit is dead :P |
| 12:31.46 | claymore | Mornin all! |
| 12:32.06 | claymore | and no, Christmas Spirit is alive and well in my household. |
| 12:32.39 | claymore | The REAL Christmas Spirit that is... not the commericialized, overbearing Santa style Chirstmas ;) |
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| 12:59.57 | claymore | hai ``Erik_ |
| 13:08.14 | claymore | kicks ``Erik_ 's cable modem. Behave!!! |
| 13:08.53 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33358 10/rt^3/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): removed pthreadcc and socketcc (perhaps temporarily) due to licensing. Plan to replace with boost::asio and boost::threads |
| 13:14.46 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33359 10/rt^3/trunk/include/boost/ (198 files in 11 dirs): added boost::asio to include/ dir. 'Boost::Asio is a cross-platform C++ library for network and low-level I/O programming' |
| 13:34.46 | claymore | heh, compile error message: "../../include/boost/optional.hpp:15:39: error: boost/optional/optional.hpp: No such file or directory" -looks like the optional file isn't optional. :D |
| 13:35.01 | clock_ | hates boost |
| 13:35.25 | clock_ | I don't know what it is but it's often required by C++ programs and renders them unable to compile |
| 13:35.49 | claymore | boost is just a ginormous collection of libraries. |
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| 13:58.54 | brlcad | grr. |
| 13:59.57 | brlcad | is getting unhappy with younder reliable isp of late being no longer reliable |
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| 14:06.41 | PrezKennedyJR | brlcad, who? |
| 14:11.54 | brlcad | sago |
| 14:16.46 | brlcad | woo hoo, couch arrived! |
| 14:17.10 | brlcad | and my awesomeness bench made from old railroad ties |
| 14:17.28 | brlcad | two more deliveries to go! |
| 14:17.49 | brlcad | clock_: boost is only a pita if it's not managed properly, like any external dependency |
| 14:18.20 | brlcad | you really do have to use their tool to determine what is used and what isn't, so you get everything (or simply include all of boost, but that's a cop-out and massive) |
| 14:22.21 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33360 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Added the TireWizard. |
| 14:35.50 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33361 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/tire.c: Removed leftover debug statement. |
| 15:10.57 | PrezKennedyJR | brlcad, i heard about the couch |
| 15:11.00 | *** join/#brlcad elite01 (n=omg@unaffiliated/elite01) |
| 15:11.06 | PrezKennedyJR | get my mom and dad to buy a new one already! |
| 15:21.17 | ``Erik_ | takes off his pants and dances around |
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| 15:41.13 | claymore | oddness. |
| 15:41.13 | ``Erik | and/or evenness |
| 15:41.40 | claymore | is hungry. |
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| 17:13.53 | *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || GSoC 2008 Highlight: new prototype gui, check it out! || Source Release 7.14.0 is now posted (20081108) |
| 17:21.31 | brlcad | claymore: tv awesomeness is definitely > luncheon, but I'm still waiting |
| 17:22.10 | brlcad | the furniture is in, though.. really love this recliner :) |
| 17:23.22 | brlcad | was going to go to the luncheon if it arrived in time, but looks like that's a no-go |
| 17:23.29 | brlcad | the window was 10-2 |
| 18:02.08 | mafm | hmm guys, generic question about programming |
| 18:02.30 | mafm | in C/C++, the compiler optimizes i++ increments when not assigned? |
| 18:02.38 | mafm | or it does store the old value anyway? |
| 18:03.04 | mafm | (I know that it depends on the compiler and optimization level, but I mean in general and well known compilers) |
| 18:04.35 | mafm | that would be important, performance/storage-wise, in for() loops in example |
| 18:05.53 | elite01 | i bet most do, at least if i is a primitive type |
| 18:06.05 | elite01 | i still prefer ++i since it matches the intention better |
| 18:06.14 | elite01 | when in doubt, watch asm output |
| 18:06.21 | elite01 | (--save-temps or so) |
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| 19:40.40 | mafm | thanks elite01 (I read it before but forgot to say anything) |
| 19:40.41 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33362 10/brlcad/trunk/src/archer/plugins/Wizards/tirewizard/TireWizard.tcl: Indicate the units for various entries. |
| 19:41.05 | mafm | I think that the optimization only involves checking whether there's some use for the value to be returned |
| 19:41.10 | mafm | if not, the code is converted |
| 19:41.55 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33363 10/brlcad/trunk/src/archer/plugins/Wizards/tirewizard.tcl: Minor mod of an error message. |
| 19:52.46 | ``Erik | *burp* |
| 19:53.15 | claymore | wow... just wow.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-429 |
| 20:01.57 | ``Erik | heh, the guy who tried to follow procedure and saved lives gets punished, the guy who fucked it all up got promoted O.o russia aint' so different from the us after all! :D |
| 20:03.13 | claymore | I d'no.... the captain of a submarine forgetting to rig for dive? Thats pretty bad and deserves a bit of punishment :/ |
| 20:03.49 | ``Erik | yeah, but ordering underway without trained crew, ordering immediate torpedo range without the regular post-drydock shakedown? |
| 20:04.14 | claymore | oh yeah, thats pretty dumb to. Not arguing that lol. |
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| 21:39.37 | nixon-9 | dinner time? |
| 21:47.05 | brlcad | soon! |
| 21:47.36 | nixon-9 | brlcad: heck the mail box |
| 21:48.52 | nixon-9 | brlcad: give me a hint how to connect to windows from linux through the cable? |
| 21:49.07 | nixon-9 | 0-modem cable, two computers |
| 21:54.36 | ``Erik | gotta set up the, uh, tty |
| 21:54.52 | ``Erik | linux does that in, uhmmmmm, I think inittab? |
| 21:54.56 | ``Erik | to a getty? |
| 21:55.06 | ``Erik | then use like 'minicom' or 'tip' on the other one |
| 21:55.09 | ``Erik | tada! |
| 21:55.15 | nixon-9 | ``Erik: ok |
| 21:55.37 | nixon-9 | ok, i will try it at a very first time |
| 21:55.44 | ``Erik | knows how to do it on bsd or slowaris better |
| 21:56.18 | nixon-9 | wants it to be the best experience ever! |
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| 22:13.53 | brlcad | best experience ever.. |
| 22:13.59 | brlcad | then what are you using windows for? |
| 22:14.55 | i`lya | i`lya: right, heh... marry moment for both computers and me |
| 22:15.53 | i`lya | brlcad: it's not my pc, that with windows one... We have licensed windows at work, btw |
| 22:16.17 | brlcad | being licensed doesn't make the OS work any better |
| 22:16.46 | i`lya | the more reachable the internet - the more they forcce citizens to buy licensed software. not for homes, but at least for firms |
| 22:17.09 | i`lya | brlcad: but i can not say windows xp was unstable |
| 22:18.10 | brlcad | nobody is forced to buy anything |
| 22:18.49 | i`lya | brlcad: without internet, in '97 - we had to use illegal software |
| 22:19.19 | ``Erik | surely you could've started punching in op codes and bootstrapping a home rolled OS |
| 22:19.21 | brlcad | you along with millions of others, what's your point? |
| 22:19.38 | brlcad | and you didn't have to, there were other viable operating systems even back in '97 |
| 22:19.45 | ``Erik | or bought a copy of minix |
| 22:19.55 | ``Erik | or linux, or fbsd, or netbsd, or obsd, or ... |
| 22:20.16 | brlcad | I think that's right about when I make linux my primary, actually |
| 22:20.18 | louipc | linux wasn't so great in 97 |
| 22:20.37 | ``Erik | did it in '96 |
| 22:20.37 | ``Erik | late '96, like octoberish |
| 22:20.48 | ``Erik | feb-oct with winderz, it was... too much to bear |
| 22:20.52 | brlcad | louipc: neither was windows :) |
| 22:21.07 | louipc | well my sound card worked at least :D |
| 22:21.22 | i`lya | brlcad: linux + offline = linux on 5 cd, 3-hours installation, uh.... i played games to be true |
| 22:22.36 | i`lya | who remembers 4X cd-roms? my is right here, close to me. Can plug it thru ide->usb to laptop |
| 22:23.11 | ``Erik | heh, I had a 1x :D |
| 22:23.39 | i`lya | what a good time! Life was more simple! |
| 22:23.47 | ``Erik | used to buy 120 minute audio cassettes because you could fit more data on them, even though they went bad sooner |
| 22:23.57 | ``Erik | pheer my epeen |
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| 22:24.34 | i`lya | ``Erik: they didn't went bad sooner! |
| 22:24.45 | ``Erik | they'd stretch and become unreadable |
| 22:24.48 | i`lya | they rule |
| 22:25.00 | i`lya | ``Erik: no |
| 22:25.39 | ``Erik | at least the coleco adam decided they were crap *shrug* I was buying the red and silver ones, uh, 'tdk' I think? |
| 22:25.45 | brlcad | i`lya: plenty of linux distros were on just one disc |
| 22:26.00 | ``Erik | in '97, many were on sets of floppies :) |
| 22:26.04 | brlcad | heck, even redhat only had two through most of the 90's |
| 22:26.07 | i`lya | brlcad: but they need libraries from iternet |
| 22:26.17 | brlcad | no, full distributions |
| 22:26.24 | brlcad | I did plenty of offline installs |
| 22:26.30 | i`lya | ``Erik: TDK, heh |
| 22:27.49 | i`lya | brlcad: 5 cd - i have told it about modern distributions (know 8 cd) |
| 22:28.16 | i`lya | those 3 cd i had contained more than one dvd with kubuntu |
| 22:28.53 | ``Erik | http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsd7.0?id=yVw7ircA&mv_pc=24 booyeah |
| 22:28.53 | brlcad | i`lya: you're jumping from 90's to now |
| 22:29.13 | brlcad | i'm saying back then it was just a disc or two and you were fine |
| 22:29.50 | i`lya | brlcad: but i could thnk about e.g. Need For Speed + wine + linux |
| 22:30.10 | brlcad | i.e. "without internet, in '97 - we had to use illegal software" is complete bull :) |
| 22:30.33 | i`lya | brlcad: right, but there were only illegal windows - for newbies |
| 22:30.59 | brlcad | huh? |
| 22:31.08 | brlcad | there was linux |
| 22:31.17 | brlcad | there was a bunch of other OS too |
| 22:31.50 | ``Erik | installed linux from 14.4k modem |
| 22:31.58 | i`lya | brlcad: right |
| 22:32.19 | i`lya | feel guilty |
| 22:32.51 | i`lya | i pay 0.10-0.30 usd / mb |
| 22:33.35 | ``Erik | sooo, back then y ou would've paid about a dollar for a functional linux download, hrm |
| 22:34.14 | i`lya | ``Erik: ah, i mean right now - but in a past, internet was a dream! |
| 22:36.24 | brlcad | that's what BBS were for |
| 22:36.45 | ``Erik | bbs's were awesome |
| 22:36.51 | i`lya | brlcad: i'm using it since '03 |
| 22:36.52 | brlcad | I paid into a local BBS a couple bucks a month |
| 22:37.28 | i`lya | brlcad: was it like phones just right at street? |
| 22:37.42 | i`lya | What does it look like, that BBS? |
| 22:37.44 | brlcad | (from panama) and the BBS would dial up the USA once a week to relay into another BBS that had intermittent internet connectivity |
| 22:38.35 | i`lya | brlcad: calm fun |
| 22:38.41 | brlcad | i`lya: it was on the computer, you'd dial into a bulletin board system -- text-only interface, apps, messages, games, mail |
| 22:38.44 | i`lya | or dead disko |
| 22:38.47 | ``Erik | remembers computer clubs, with boxes of 5.25" floppies sitting around with software and several machines with dual drives... people would bring a box of blanks and copy what they wanted |
| 22:38.51 | ``Erik | nutty stuff |
| 22:39.14 | brlcad | yeah, I remember doing that :0 |
| 22:39.31 | ``Erik | odd social events :) |
| 22:39.37 | brlcad | one guy would buy something, then everyone had it |
| 22:39.42 | i`lya | social, right |
| 22:42.48 | i`lya | how can i 'go back' in info files? |
| 22:43.04 | i`lya | is it e.g. Alt+Left Arrow? |
| 22:43.15 | brlcad | 'p'? |
| 22:43.27 | brlcad | 'p'revious |
| 22:43.32 | i`lya | ok |
| 22:43.51 | brlcad | 't'op |
| 22:44.20 | i`lya | brlcad: why do you know it? |
| 22:44.49 | brlcad | I don't, I just ran it and saw the menu :P |
| 22:45.14 | brlcad | it's a blend of emacs and vi behaviors |
| 22:45.20 | i`lya | whoa!:-/ |
| 22:49.16 | i`lya | brlcad: i think you know french, could it be? try to say something. |
| 22:50.23 | i`lya | like la femmé est l'amour (hope it means something :) |
| 22:53.48 | i`lya | brlcad: what if i try to edit pages "program-info.info" in the package "program-info.tgz"? will the menu work after that? Or i will have to re-arrange links in TeTex ?? |
| 22:53.57 | brlcad | je ne parle pas francais |
| 22:54.00 | i`lya | i meant info files |
| 22:54.47 | brlcad | i`lya: depends what edits you make |
| 22:54.53 | i`lya | brlcad: i read they grammar right now (this month) in attempt to know this language |
| 22:55.13 | i`lya | brlcad: adding/deleting random lines and letters |
| 22:55.50 | brlcad | why would you do that? |
| 22:56.00 | brlcad | actually, I don't want to know |
| 22:56.06 | brlcad | no, I doubt that will work |
| 22:56.09 | i`lya | brlcad: i'm a bad, bad man |
| 22:56.30 | i`lya | brlcad: i doubt, too - and will not even try it |
| 23:00.18 | i`lya | .info files are nicely arranged for learning something. Most of modern sources offer too big amount of information at once - we all will have big heads soon (will mutate towards virtual entities) |
| 23:58.50 | i`lya | brlcad: what time? |
| 23:59.02 | ``Erik | party time! |
| 23:59.07 | ``Erik | takes off his pants and dances |
| 23:59.15 | i`lya | ibot: time |
| 23:59.16 | ibot | You cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.12.11 23:59:16 GMT) |
| 23:59.24 | mafm | night |
| 23:59.54 | i`lya | ``Erik: don't get a flu, put on your pants |