| 00:07.33 | phreak4257 | . |
| 00:08.05 | Ralith | ' |
| 00:09.26 | Ralith | vmath.h doesn't incur any dependencies, right? |
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| 00:34.32 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/7.14.1.png <---- finally |
| 00:36.11 | Ralith | nice |
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| 02:03.48 | Ralith | brlcad: got some questions about vecmath.h (which I am very close to killing completely) in lgt |
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| 03:44.50 | gentoo_iron | . |
| 03:45.13 | Ralith | ' |
| 03:45.31 | Ralith | gentoo_iron: decide on a nick already :P |
| 03:48.31 | gentoo_iron | :) |
| 03:48.44 | gentoo_iron | stupid netowrk connection |
| 03:49.19 | gentoo_iron | if i have several nicks, it will try that instead of booting me |
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| 03:57.39 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/bang.png and hit.png :) |
| 03:59.16 | Ralith | IriX64: nice, although you might want a prettier view :P |
| 03:59.36 | IriX64 | couldn't find miss april or the paper moose |
| 03:59.50 | Ralith | the havok is nice |
| 03:59.56 | IriX64 | very |
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| 04:00.06 | Ralith | but you're only lighting a fraction of the visible area |
| 04:00.16 | Ralith | not very fun to look at a big blob of shadow |
| 04:00.26 | IriX64 | thats the underbelly i rotated it |
| 04:00.32 | IriX64 | suns on top |
| 04:00.35 | Ralith | yeah |
| 04:00.37 | Ralith | render the top |
| 04:00.38 | Ralith | ^^ |
| 04:02.03 | IriX64 | reality is sometimes hard to understand |
| 04:03.09 | IriX64 | which would you like to see? |
| 04:03.28 | IriX64 | out of the examples, i don't draw |
| 04:04.50 | yukonbob | reads scrollback |
| 04:04.56 | Ralith | just commenting on aesthetics |
| 04:05.05 | Ralith | I can render it myself if I actually want to see something :P |
| 04:05.24 | IriX64 | would you like a top shot? |
| 04:05.29 | IriX64 | give me 5 |
| 04:06.28 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 04:08.27 | Ralith | IriX64: no, no need to spend your time |
| 04:08.32 | Ralith | like I said, I can see all I want of it |
| 04:08.42 | Ralith | got bored of raytracing the havok a long time ago :P |
| 04:14.52 | IriX64 | try brl-cad.png |
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| 06:12.23 | brlcad | Ralith: apparently not, because I don't remember said paper (cutaway generation) |
| 06:12.32 | brlcad | oooh, the siggraph paper |
| 06:12.53 | Ralith | yeah! |
| 06:13.58 | brlcad | hm |
| 06:15.09 | Ralith | also: lgt/vecmath.h defines EPSILON (which is used as you might expect) to a seemingly arbitrary value, and I haven't seen an obvious parallel in vmath.h . Should I copy that to vmath, use Vsomething_TOL, move the #define to the source files that need it, or what? |
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| 06:26.37 | brlcad | http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/wilmotli/ |
| 06:28.30 | Ralith | ty |
| 06:29.10 | Ralith | oo, a paper on exploding things too |
| 06:29.44 | brlcad | don't move tolerances to vmath |
| 06:30.00 | brlcad | there "shouldn't" be any hard-coded tolerances in the public header files |
| 06:30.15 | brlcad | a couple have snuck in over the years, but they're the exception |
| 06:31.08 | Ralith | thought that would be inappropriate |
| 06:31.17 | Ralith | but what *do* I do about it? |
| 06:31.22 | Ralith | none of the other options seem particularly elegant |
| 06:31.36 | Ralith | and it seems a shame to keep vecmath.h around for that alone |
| 06:33.09 | brlcad | looks like it's only used in three files, and at least one of those is completely arbitrary |
| 06:34.04 | Ralith | so move it to a #define in each file? |
| 06:34.12 | brlcad | (reflect.c) .. so that could completely go away or be changed to some other "near zero" sanity value, or use some lgt global tolerance |
| 06:34.33 | brlcad | or a var in the main file, and just export in the other one/two |
| 06:35.29 | brlcad | it probably should just have a bn_tol in do_options.c and have that exported in ir.c |
| 06:36.02 | brlcad | i'm sure there's other places in lgt that could be managing tolerance better too |
| 06:36.23 | Ralith | I'm hesitant to dig into that without an understanding of what it's doing, though |
| 06:37.30 | brlcad | sure |
| 06:37.36 | brlcad | just thinking out loud |
| 06:38.11 | brlcad | the quick fix is just a fastf_t |
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| 06:39.23 | Ralith | so, drop fastf_t bn_tol = the value EPSILON has right now in do_options.c, and a matching extern in ir.c, and an independent #define in reflect.c? |
| 06:40.01 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33272 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spltest.c: clean up the mess while reviewing where things were left off at with the old spline surface testing. |
| 06:40.09 | brlcad | fastf_t or bn_tol .. one's a single val, the other a tolerance structure |
| 06:40.18 | Ralith | oh, heh |
| 06:40.22 | Ralith | didn't know bn_tol was a type. |
| 06:40.51 | brlcad | fastf_t is a type too :) |
| 06:41.01 | Ralith | the _t clued me in on that. |
| 06:41.01 | brlcad | struct bn_tol and fastf_t |
| 06:41.06 | brlcad | fastf_t is basically a double |
| 06:41.08 | Ralith | as well as the numerous appearances in the code. |
| 06:41.23 | brlcad | but could be a float or some other (arbitrary) floating point type |
| 06:42.27 | Ralith | looks over bn_tol and opts for the simple fix |
| 06:42.40 | Ralith | seeing as that's all that's actually being used. |
| 06:45.06 | Ralith | any relevant naming conventions I should be reminded of? |
| 06:46.23 | brlcad | nothing relevant for that |
| 06:53.27 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33273 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bspline/bspline.c: be a little more explicit |
| 07:00.23 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33274 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bspline/bspline.c: ws and comment cleanup |
| 07:04.54 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33275 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spltest.c: |
| 07:04.54 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: fix a memory deallocation error. since this is calling mk_export_fwrite |
| 07:04.54 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: directly (which is really just wdb_export()), it cannot use a rt_nurb_internal |
| 07:04.54 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: that is on the stack because ifree() ends up getting called on the internal |
| 07:04.54 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: during export. |
| 07:11.27 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33276 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: |
| 07:11.27 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: end of cycle review, pnts import and export were finished, but still would like |
| 07:11.27 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: to get file input support working (maybe a pnts command instead of typein). |
| 07:11.27 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: still need to do something with color and vectors for the wireframe and possibly |
| 07:11.27 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: raytracing too (big changes to support that, multi'region' primitives). also, |
| 07:11.30 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: incrTcl once again gets the shaft (but this time not even making the next |
| 07:11.32 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: iteration due to other priorities) |
| 07:13.09 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33277 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/bot_shell-vtk.1: wrong title header |
| 07:16.33 | yukonbob | what's happening w/ incrtcl |
| 07:16.45 | yukonbob | is working w/ the 4.0a1 atm (on own 'puter) |
| 07:20.48 | yukonbob | hits hay |
| 07:33.00 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33278 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/bot_shell-vtk.1: case consistency |
| 07:34.36 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33279 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/bot_dump.c: it's a lie, -v is not a recognized argument |
| 07:35.35 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33280 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS TODO src/conv/Makefile.am src/conv/bot_dump.1): add an initial manual page for bot_dump in response to a request for one from the modeling team. this is pretty rudimentary documentation, but should be better than nothing. |
| 07:35.37 | brlcad | yukonbob: nothing |
| 07:36.13 | brlcad | the todo push back is on some configure cleanup that is still needed |
| 07:36.34 | brlcad | so our automatic system detection works better for mixed combinations of system/provided |
| 07:39.57 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33281 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: cliff added editing support for the hyp primitive to mged. (this is just a rewrite for consistency (past tense or fragment, lowercase mged on the one-liners)) |
| 07:44.53 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r33282 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: cliff also added a new 'lens' proc-db for making exact optical lenses. (this is just a rewrite for readability, news should be worded for a wide viewship, as much comprehension as possible in the space given.) |
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| 12:21.58 | claymore | Morning all! |
| 12:22.02 | starseeker | grooves out on his working mouse |
| 12:22.04 | starseeker | morning! |
| 12:22.14 | starseeker | gears up for an early start |
| 12:22.23 | starseeker | yay 9am meetings |
| 12:22.36 | claymore | ewwww. |
| 12:24.32 | claymore | damn.... just looked. that 9 am meeting means *ME* too. |
| 12:24.38 | claymore | grumbles |
| 12:25.19 | archivist | har har nearly dinner time here |
| 12:25.48 | claymore | oh yeah... well.... um... i had dinner almost 12 hours ago... so there!.... yeah! ;) |
| 12:27.43 | starseeker | and rush hour traffic |
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| 12:27.53 | starseeker | rushes to get into rush hour traffic |
| 12:28.44 | claymore | AudioBooks man! Its the only way to combat being surrounded by tons of metal piloted by idiots! |
| 12:29.41 | claymore | will be starting the Wizards First Rule series by Goodkind soon. |
| 13:23.01 | brlcad | 9am meeting? eek |
| 13:23.15 | claymore | looks at watch. |
| 13:23.32 | claymore | brlcad: that Lotus would come in handy right now eh? :D |
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| 13:38.57 | brlcad | will be 15 or so late unless car falls apart |
| 13:44.09 | clock_ | also wants to be 15 once more again |
| 13:48.40 | claymore | brlcad: I'll tell them the truth: You're stuck in traffic ;) |
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| 14:11.20 | alex_joni | clock_: but you'll lose all you knowledge too |
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| 14:45.56 | clock_ | alex_joni: better losing knowledge than losing youth |
| 14:52.50 | alex_joni | clock_: that's debateable |
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| 14:54.43 | claymore | a person has control over losing knowledge, but no control over losing youth. best not to fight the inevitable and make the most out of the the time you have :) |
| 14:55.22 | alex_joni | there are cases where you don't have control over losing knowledge |
| 14:55.42 | alex_joni | but at that point loss of youth is probably irrelevant/irreversible aswell |
| 14:55.53 | claymore | true, but if you dive into details, then *any* philisophical debate falls apart ;) |
| 14:56.11 | alex_joni | divide et impera ;) |
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| 15:28.35 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33283 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/swidgets/scripts/selectlists.itk: Check-in for Doug Howard. |
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| 17:04.08 | IriX64 | i could use some help |
| 17:04.35 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33285 10/rt^3/trunk/src/iBME/GeometryService/Jobs/ (16 files): Architecture change: Converted all arrays over to std::vector or std::list where appropriate. |
| 17:04.43 | claymore | amen to that :D |
| 17:05.02 | IriX64 | heh fbed is giving me grief |
| 17:05.23 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33286 10/rt^3/trunk/src/iBME/GeometryService/ (24 files in 2 dirs): Architecture change: Converted all arrays over to std::vector or std::list where appropriate. |
| 17:07.45 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r33287 10/rt^3/trunk/src/iBME/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Architecture change: Converted all arrays over to std::vector or std::list where appropriate. (Multiple commits where required due to the intermittent network issues here.) |
| 17:17.28 | sporty | IriX64: where shall i register myself to put my xml files prepared for international translations? Where's a tracker? |
| 17:24.00 | sporty | ok, will have started from logs of previous day |
| 17:25.25 | IriX64 | sporty, i have no idead man sorry |
| 17:25.35 | IriX64 | idea too |
| 17:25.48 | sporty | ok, i see logs - there's a link |
| 17:26.28 | IriX64 | good |
| 17:26.52 | sporty | not bad, heh |
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| 17:32.42 | claymore | hai ``Erik ! |
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| 17:34.40 | louipc | sporty: try the patch tracker. http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=640804&group_id=105292&func=browse |
| 17:34.49 | sporty | ok |
| 17:35.20 | sporty | but i\m already trying to create an account |
| 17:36.06 | louipc | you'll have to create a sourceforge account I believe |
| 17:46.10 | sporty | i did it |
| 17:46.19 | IriX64 | cheers |
| 17:46.44 | sporty | i have created a cup of a tea... now about the account .. |
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| 17:53.57 | sporty | well... i can not log into my account. weak connection fot sourceforge traffic... will use e-mail |
| 17:54.03 | sporty | ...then. |
| 18:16.53 | ``Erik | yargh |
| 18:25.11 | yukonbob | "To err is human, to arrr! is pirate" |
| 18:30.46 | claymore | arrrrrrg! |
| 18:32.49 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r33288 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add code to support "more args" commands in Tcl land. Activate the "in" and "inside" commands in Archer. |
| 18:33.41 | claymore | More ARGS!!! ARG!!!!!! |
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| 20:07.27 | brlcad | starseeker: turned off OCR? |
| 20:07.44 | starseeker | oops - not intentionally |
| 20:08.01 | brlcad | no biggie, have to turn them into images to color correct them anyways |
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| 20:08.16 | brlcad | hello sporty |
| 20:08.42 | brlcad | figure out your login to sourceforge? that is the best way to send stuff over (initially) |
| 20:10.23 | sporty | brlcad: i can not go to sourceforge due to weak internet connection. It interrupts |
| 20:11.24 | brlcad | what does that mean? |
| 20:11.38 | sporty | i'm using e-mails |
| 20:11.42 | brlcad | data is data |
| 20:12.04 | sporty | brlcad: yes, but e-nail - it is usually 10 kb of data |
| 20:12.14 | brlcad | if you can send and receive data over smtp, you should be able to do the same over http |
| 20:12.56 | sporty | brlcad: so i have to re-vise commands... Can i add <refentry id='man.c.ru'> ?? |
| 20:13.09 | brlcad | so browse with javascript disabled, stylesheets disabled |
| 20:13.20 | sporty | brlcad: but i pay 0.30 usd per megabyte and hate sourceforge.net |
| 20:13.26 | sporty | ok |
| 20:13.44 | brlcad | hell, use lynx |
| 20:14.13 | brlcad | images are the killer, turn off image loading |
| 20:14.19 | sporty | starseeker: i'm about to edit all my files again... |
| 20:14.20 | brlcad | so much possible |
| 20:14.40 | brlcad | it'll just be a LOT more effective as a tracker item then via e-mail |
| 20:15.08 | sporty | brlcad: everything is already turned off, and i'm using toonel.net for http and direct connection for downlos |
| 20:15.11 | brlcad | but if e-mail is your only option, join the devel mailing list and send them to there in patch form as attachments |
| 20:17.07 | brlcad | as for the refentry id, I don't personally see yet why those need to change |
| 20:17.13 | sporty | brlcad: no, don't have time to know how to create patches. I'm getting experience in translations. These commands i already have (first 50 or 60) - fully translated. The rest will be a bit more rough. |
| 20:17.18 | brlcad | you can mark the entire book/article/whatever as lang="ru" |
| 20:17.20 | sporty | brlcad: ok |
| 20:17.30 | sporty | brlcad: how? |
| 20:17.34 | sporty | as: |
| 20:18.16 | sporty | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" lang="ru"?> ???? |
| 20:18.22 | sporty | right? |
| 20:18.42 | sporty | if so, then these commands are ready |
| 20:18.44 | brlcad | no, it goes on the book/article/chapter -- depends how it's broken out |
| 20:18.54 | sporty | ok, wait |
| 20:19.21 | sporty | ok, will decide with starseeker |
| 20:19.28 | brlcad | refentry lang="ru" iirc |
| 20:19.43 | brlcad | or it happens at a higher level |
| 20:19.58 | brlcad | they go into a "ru" directory already |
| 20:20.03 | sporty | <refentry id='c' lang="ru"> |
| 20:20.21 | sporty | brlcad: let them go to /ru directory |
| 20:20.27 | sporty | it could be better |
| 20:20.50 | louipc | sporty: are you using svn? |
| 20:21.12 | sporty | because i've asked elite01 to add some commands on another language - and i has told he can spend about an hour for them all |
| 20:21.22 | sporty | louipc: no |
| 20:22.06 | louipc | you can easily get a patch of your changes with `svn diff` though :D |
| 20:22.07 | sporty | louipc: i'm using cost internet connection - this is an only obstruction |
| 20:22.24 | sporty | ah... no |
| 20:23.03 | brlcad | sporty: so what *are* you doing? |
| 20:23.25 | brlcad | because if you're trying to help, you've being very difficult .. seemingly intentionally |
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| 20:24.18 | sporty | brlcad: right now i'm re-vising commands. E.g. word "combination" in russian will be "complicated object" - in those sentences whichmind primitives - |
| 20:24.20 | brlcad | there's a reason why certain methods and formats are preferred over others.. it's generally what's most time-efficient for everyone (patches being a big one) |
| 20:24.59 | brlcad | that doesn't sound right |
| 20:25.05 | sporty | but i thought svn are just a night-builds... |
| 20:25.37 | brlcad | svn is where all current development occurs |
| 20:26.14 | brlcad | which combination object isn't quite the same as compound object, nor complicated object.. |
| 20:26.17 | sporty | i think it could be a good idea to leave some words as combination as special terms. "combination"='kombinaciya' |
| 20:26.28 | sporty | that's what i do right now |
| 20:26.34 | brlcad | how do you refer to two things that are joined together using boolean operations? |
| 20:26.52 | sporty | ok, wait... |
| 20:27.39 | sporty | e.g. 'creates combination with name combination_name' |
| 20:29.08 | sporty | never mind, bad example. I think it could be great to edit commands on the site, after all. There will sure be people who can approve/disapprove commands on the native languages |
| 20:33.32 | sporty | brlcad: i know at least two manuals on my native. 'booleans' tend us towards complicated objects, where 'complicated' mean rather non-original, than "more simple vs more complicated". From this points of view, everithing is ok. I only think i need to re-vise all the commands again - and i want it to be a final variant. Unless it will lie in wiki. |
| 20:35.03 | sporty | i also want to leave e.g. 'regions', 'combinations', 'rubber band' as special terms. |
| 20:36.42 | sporty | i've understood that 'full' translation shall be used in other cases. B.t.w, one this manual about the commands is tiny-but-powerfull introduction in 3D. |
| 20:39.35 | sporty | louipc: so how can i create a xml-commands-rus-part1.patch ? I wanted to gzip it and upload through the tracker... |
| 20:43.00 | louipc | sporty: if you didn't alter any existing files I'd think that would be alright. Otherwise you'd use the diff command to make a patch. Read the man page to see how to use it. |
| 20:43.20 | sporty | ok |
| 20:46.14 | sporty | i think <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" lang="ru"?> - and i need to quit to find out if it right or not |
| 20:47.04 | sporty | don't write smth without me! If everything is ok, all user commands will be available soon |
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| 21:18.52 | sport1 | it's ok |
| 21:30.02 | redvsblue | does erik's connection suck or is it just my imagination? :P |
| 21:42.14 | brlcad | it sucks when he's not paying attention to it |
| 21:42.37 | redvsblue | oh |
| 21:42.47 | redvsblue | well i guess thats good, it means he is being productive? |
| 21:42.50 | redvsblue | :P |
| 21:43.59 | brlcad | unlikely |
| 21:44.21 | sporty | brlcad: does the rset *don't gets a new* value untill it is explicitly supplied on a command line |
| 21:44.46 | brlcad | sporty: right, it's like "set" on the unix prompt |
| 21:44.55 | sporty | ok |
| 21:44.59 | brlcad | prints if you ask for stuff, sets it if you provide a value |
| 21:46.07 | brlcad | sporty: so what does this call it? http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_solid_geometry |
| 21:46.16 | brlcad | complicated objects? |
| 21:47.07 | sporty | brlcad: ah, just combination=combination and region-region and so on. |
| 21:49.35 | sporty | brlcad: any mention call it "complicated vs. primitive shapes" - but here, on a sophisticated 'basis', combinations remain "combination" and regions remain "region" - these words only sounds more rough on russian, as e.g. german ones |
| 21:50.01 | sporty | i mean i do not change anything |
| 21:50.45 | sporty | this translation only helps to read through the manual more quickly |
| 21:51.16 | sporty | brlcad: I guess Rubber Band is... what is it? |
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| 21:58.04 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/brl-cad.png |
| 21:58.07 | sporty | brlcad: <refentry id='rset' lang="ru"> - so i try to finish this long translation work more quickly. |
| 21:59.02 | sporty | IriX64: i can not download pics (mobile internet) - what do they use brl-cad for? |
| 21:59.23 | IriX64 | solid modelling and cad |
| 21:59.42 | sporty | cad? |
| 21:59.54 | IriX64 | computer aided design |
| 22:00.22 | sporty | i mean, only design? or they try to e.g. speed up the 'documentation' cycle |
| 22:00.36 | IriX64 | test it before its built |
| 22:01.13 | IriX64 | see how many rockets itll take before its destroyed :) |
| 22:02.09 | IriX64 | there's some others on the site too, all recent |
| 22:02.50 | sporty | IriX64: i'm about to use brl-cad this way: 10-15 minutes for geometry, fea, - and it's an analog, then again, 20 mins for geometry and fea - and these 2-3 times produces a good shape --> qcad (or some sophisticated cad package). Time is a problem... it's about 40-hours week... |
| 22:03.27 | sporty | IriX64: not tea - fea! |
| 22:03.37 | sporty | ha-ha :) |
| 22:03.44 | IriX64 | :) |
| 22:04.04 | sporty | i have new fea package cose-aster.org |
| 22:04.12 | sporty | code-aster.org |
| 22:04.38 | sporty | and few books to read till the end of this month |
| 22:05.03 | IriX64 | whatever happened to doxygen :) |
| 22:05.25 | sporty | doxygen? what is it? |
| 22:05.33 | IriX64 | documentation |
| 22:05.42 | IriX64 | pkg |
| 22:06.20 | sporty | doxygen - documentation of what? |
| 22:06.35 | IriX64 | anything you want to document |
| 22:06.45 | IriX64 | brl-cad used to use it |
| 22:07.09 | IriX64 | i think the switch is still there in ./configure |
| 22:07.20 | sporty | uh... but what have heppened with doxygen |
| 22:07.31 | IriX64 | replaced |
| 22:07.47 | IriX64 | html docbook and pdf i think |
| 22:07.59 | sporty | i have compiled gcc-3.4 and can not compile qt-opensource-edition |
| 22:08.16 | louipc | doxygen is really for documenting libraries |
| 22:08.30 | IriX64 | thanks |
| 22:08.43 | sporty | IriX64: what is a size of current brl-cad's linux package? same 12 mb? |
| 22:09.05 | IriX64 | the source is arounf 40-45 bz2 ed |
| 22:09.11 | IriX64 | around too |
| 22:09.45 | IriX64 | check sourceforge the project page they have binaries |
| 22:09.51 | sporty | no! i have 7.10.2 which is 12 mb in size, .bzip2 |
| 22:10.18 | IriX64 | no idea then i don't run linux |
| 22:10.31 | sporty | oh my god! i need... about 15 usd to download it! |
| 22:10.40 | louipc | 7.14.0 is 41M in .tar.bz2 |
| 22:10.51 | sporty | IriX64: do you run irix on 64-bit? |
| 22:10.52 | louipc | the source |
| 22:10.56 | IriX64 | ah your on a dialup |
| 22:11.11 | sporty | no, on gprs |
| 22:11.16 | louipc | sporty: ouch |
| 22:11.28 | brlcad | sporty: forget about putting a lang in there unless you hear something from starseeker as to otherwise.. just translate the body text |
| 22:11.28 | IriX64 | my nick has nothing to do with what os i use |
| 22:11.45 | sporty | brlcad: ok |
| 22:12.54 | sporty | brlcad: starseeker has told he will have to edit it, anyway - but i will have deleted lang from few last files - so all thw files will be clear |
| 22:13.54 | sporty | brlcad: what is "rubber band"? is it related to David bowie or iggy pop? |
| 22:14.13 | sporty | or zizy top? |
| 22:14.28 | sporty | or aa bottom? :) |
| 22:14.42 | brlcad | it's a marquee |
| 22:15.05 | sporty | ah! |
| 22:15.10 | sporty | aha! |
| 22:15.22 | sporty | i almost thought the same |
| 22:15.54 | sporty | i have called it "rubber gangsters" |
| 22:16.22 | sporty | "rubber gang" to be true |
| 22:18.22 | brlcad | IriX64: doxygen is for *code* documentation and hasn't changed in plan |
| 22:18.29 | brlcad | it's still what is being used |
| 22:18.37 | brlcad | docbook is for the end-user documentation |
| 22:22.13 | sporty | brlcad: what is a price of such a 'simple' cars as e.g. cheap sedan, new, there in u.s.? |
| 22:22.31 | IriX64 | sorry, i remember a --enable-doxygen in 7.6.2 :) |
| 22:22.59 | brlcad | depends, but anywhere from 10k to 30k |
| 22:23.12 | sporty | IriX64: it seems it exists in 7.10, but there's also a default value |
| 22:23.12 | brlcad | cheap is very observer-dependent |
| 22:23.39 | sporty | brlcad: i mean e.g. ford ....ah well the most cheap? |
| 22:24.21 | sporty | like 8999$ ? i want to buy a car for 300$ |
| 22:24.28 | brlcad | well I gave a range |
| 22:24.35 | brlcad | so the cheapest is one ends of that range |
| 22:24.46 | sporty | which is 15-20 years old |
| 22:24.58 | sporty | ok... |
| 22:26.02 | brlcad | you said new |
| 22:26.19 | brlcad | cars cost a whole lot more than $300 to make them in materials alone |
| 22:26.28 | sporty | brlcad: it is a macabre for me... |
| 22:27.32 | sporty | i will buy a set of car+some gasoline + snowboard and bmx for warm (> -20 celsius) days |
| 22:27.32 | brlcad | there is financing and used cars for cheaper |
| 22:28.38 | sporty | brlcad: ok... i will 'edit' the cars in a way i like. i wish i can buy lots of epoxy resin - it's a rare thing here |
| 22:31.56 | sporty | ok, i will go to see "two and a half men" at tv. i want to finish all the files (about 60) today, with no any additions as lang="ru". |
| 22:32.05 | sporty | i'm quitting |
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