| 00:27.54 | IriX64 | yay install time :) |
| 00:39.40 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/A19g2W87.html <--- install time blues |
| 00:57.28 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/7.14.1.png <---with a little persuasion it came up, this is off svn. |
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| 02:29.23 | redvsblue | troubleradio.net :D |
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| 12:43.33 | claymore | mornin all! |
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| 13:38.00 | brlcad | mornin' claymore |
| 13:40.56 | claymore | brlcad: hai! How was t-day? |
| 13:49.34 | ``Erik | mmmm, poussière de café |
| 14:05.10 | mafm | hi |
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| 15:14.17 | joevano | doh, no brlcad here either :/ |
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| 15:34.57 | claymore | that was strange |
| 15:35.22 | claymore | :/ |
| 15:47.00 | claymore | kick CIA-4 |
| 15:47.11 | claymore | kicks CIA-4 |
| 15:47.11 | CIA-4 | ow |
| 15:47.21 | claymore | okay, just checking. |
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| 16:10.31 | claymore | did bzflag.bz hiccup? |
| 16:11.40 | ``Erik | eh? |
| 16:12.05 | ``Erik | ooh, looks like it got rebooted |
| 16:14.14 | claymore | bummer. |
| 16:15.46 | ``Erik | happens to the best of them... only 104 days uptime before that one, though :/ |
| 16:17.00 | joevano | claymore, ``Erik : it did not reboot.. file system is full (/usr) |
| 16:17.19 | joevano | bzflag.bz reports 499 days up |
| 16:18.22 | ``Erik | erm, |
| 16:18.26 | joevano | ah.. that is just a news message :/ |
| 16:18.58 | ``Erik | heh :) |
| 16:19.05 | joevano | thats why I came looking for brlcad here, he wasn't in #bzflag |
| 16:19.17 | joevano | fired off an e-mail to him |
| 16:20.44 | joevano | i freed up a little space but those were just some old bzflag wiki backups |
| 16:21.03 | ``Erik | and it was an impolite reboot, it fired off fsck's |
| 16:21.16 | joevano | yeah |
| 16:23.37 | ``Erik | given that I'm consuming 48m on /usr, I think I'll opt out of cleaning up :D |
| 16:34.21 | claymore | Space hog! |
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| 16:38.55 | ``Erik | so now we can pick on brlcad for rebooting the machine without warning! :D and doing it without umounting the drives |
| 16:38.58 | ``Erik | :D |
| 16:39.43 | brlcad | did no such thing |
| 16:40.05 | claymore | has a space 80 gig'er if ya need it :P |
| 16:40.43 | ``Erik | notes that the 'other' machine took a similar reboot a little over an hour before bz |
| 16:41.01 | ``Erik | I wonder if someone is wandering the datacenter flipping power switches off and on again |
| 16:43.54 | clock_ | 99/win 14 |
| 17:05.53 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r33258 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/ (Makefile.am load.c load_MySQL.c): break MySQL loader stuff out into its own file |
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| 19:20.06 | IriX64 | try... my site/7.14.1-round2.png :) |
| 19:20.54 | IriX64 | why does mged started in mged mode crap out if a select is done on the share directory? |
| 19:23.03 | louipc | what's mged mode? |
| 19:23.13 | IriX64 | gui mode :) |
| 19:23.25 | IriX64 | classic is mged -c |
| 19:23.30 | louipc | normal mode then? |
| 19:23.34 | IriX64 | yes |
| 19:23.38 | louipc | or default rather |
| 19:23.43 | IriX64 | right |
| 19:23.45 | louipc | thinks classic should be default |
| 19:23.49 | louipc | :D |
| 19:24.02 | IriX64 | afraid to learn new ways :) |
| 19:24.26 | louipc | you're opening a .g file from a shared directory? |
| 19:24.46 | IriX64 | no trying to open the share dir |
| 19:25.23 | IriX64 | status access violation like the dir is locked or something, but ill find the critter |
| 19:25.24 | louipc | because it's not a .g file that's why :D |
| 19:25.42 | IriX64 | share.g interesting thought :) |
| 19:28.39 | ``Erik | alias mged='mged -c' |
| 19:29.33 | ``Erik | doesn't understand what irix means by "a select is done" |
| 19:29.54 | IriX64 | mouse cursor on share dir and then left click |
| 19:30.05 | ``Erik | oh, 'open with' on a data file? |
| 19:30.17 | IriX64 | share is a dir not a data file |
| 19:30.22 | ``Erik | if it's a directory, it'll fail because you can't open a directory as a file on most os's |
| 19:30.52 | IriX64 | cmon now i had it working on 7.12.6 and below |
| 19:31.16 | IriX64 | changed my os tho wonder if i buggered something |
| 19:31.19 | ``Erik | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/d7d0c30df |
| 19:31.52 | ``Erik | um, what did it do on 7.12.6 and below? I should've failed (I wonder if someone fixed fruity behavior since then?) |
| 19:32.47 | IriX64 | opened the directory |
| 19:33.01 | IriX64 | this is from the gui ``Erik |
| 19:33.13 | IriX64 | comes up in gui mode |
| 19:33.51 | IriX64 | navigation of the file open button is whats being questioned here |
| 19:34.02 | ``Erik | ahhh, you mean you pull up the 'open file' dialog, select a directory, then click open to go in, opposed to doubleclicking it? |
| 19:34.11 | IriX64 | right |
| 19:34.41 | IriX64 | could be a platform thing |
| 19:34.52 | ``Erik | ok, that one may be a legitimate grievance |
| 19:35.00 | IriX64 | ahh |
| 19:35.10 | ``Erik | I just tried it on my mac and it just sits there when I click open, doesn't go into it or crash or anything |
| 19:35.31 | IriX64 | heh ill buy a (insert your machine here) :) |
| 19:35.40 | ``Erik | the guy who's been doing that stuff isn't in today, though (being post-turkey trauma day and all) |
| 19:35.54 | IriX64 | heh ok :) |
| 19:36.08 | ``Erik | hrm, 8-core mac pro with 16g ram, a 30" and two 23" cinemadisplays? d'no if you wanna |
| 19:36.20 | ``Erik | it's an awesome piece of hardware, but I wouldn't buy one myself |
| 19:37.08 | IriX64 | you just scared me a way that mist you see is me raising dust :) |
| 19:38.18 | ``Erik | a bit over 10k I think? |
| 19:38.58 | ``Erik | I just bought a new macbook, didn't go with the pro, a little more power for a lot more price :/ |
| 19:39.32 | IriX64 | my system isn't complaing of obsolence yet :) |
| 19:40.35 | ``Erik | my home server is a 650mhz p3 with 128m ram, my old laptop was a g3 700mhz with 650m ram... it was about time :) |
| 19:41.00 | claymore | ``Erik: How does wow run on the new machine? |
| 19:41.03 | ``Erik | I have an 850mhz athlon tbird with 384m ram that just needs a new cpu fan |
| 19:41.06 | IriX64 | complained that it needed more geritol than you had did it :) |
| 19:41.08 | ``Erik | awesomely, dave |
| 19:41.36 | ``Erik | even with all the updated graphic stuff in the new expansion that almost doubled system requirements |
| 19:42.05 | ``Erik | irix: prep-h, I do horrible abusive things to my servers O:-) |
| 19:42.31 | IriX64 | heh long as they say "yah master" i don't complain :) |
| 19:43.01 | louipc | it just sits there for me too |
| 19:43.13 | louipc | linux |
| 19:43.26 | IriX64 | ahh ill keep looking |
| 19:43.50 | IriX64 | tried to build termlib, cursor.c has issues i can't understand |
| 19:52.03 | mafm | bye |
| 20:06.43 | IriX64 | my loadavg is showing, gottta go ;) |
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| 20:27.42 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/oDXOsL61.html <---- louipc what do i do with it :) |
| 20:31.28 | IriX64 | took out everything but ${EXEEXT} :) |
| 20:38.08 | IriX64 | trying it now sigh :) |
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| 20:46.24 | IriX64_ | louipc tell them it configures with tclsh now not 85, should compile fine. |
| 20:47.39 | IriX64_ | course i have been known to speak to soon :) |
| 20:51.20 | IriX64_ | good job, builds now. |
| 20:51.40 | IriX64_ | wonky eh, louipc ;) |
| 20:52.37 | IriX64_ | if anybody asks, i did ./autogen.sh |
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| 21:36.30 | IriX64_ | http://rafb.net/p/WCgmfF56.html <--- louipc looksee > |
| 21:37.23 | IriX64_ | had to get creative with the prefix, farkles... |
| 21:40.53 | IriX64_ | tell *nix to put the bat away now :) |
| 21:42.25 | Ralith | Elapsed compilation time: 44 minutes, 15 seconds |
| 21:42.28 | Ralith | that must have been painful |
| 21:42.35 | IriX64_ | im patient |
| 21:42.55 | IriX64_ | error free run man |
| 21:44.41 | IriX64_ | sigh another 3/4 hour wait |
| 22:11.17 | louipc | hah takes me a good 2hr to build brl-cad |
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| 22:55.35 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/VLcBVn69.html <--- wonky indeed louipc |
| 22:57.25 | IriX64 | is it because of my path? |
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| 23:16.26 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/shot.png <--- persuaded it to install and this is the extent of my artistic capabilities :) |
| 23:26.49 | ``Erik | no way |
| 23:26.58 | ``Erik | holy crap, a mork&mindy marathon on scifi |
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| 23:29.21 | frozeniron | never seen it |
| 23:29.29 | frozeniron | looks interesting, tho |
| 23:31.26 | ``Erik | was a popular show int he late 70's, early 80's |
| 23:31.33 | frozeniron | wow, robin williams |
| 23:31.43 | ``Erik | is old :( |
| 23:31.56 | frozeniron | no, i grew up w/out a tv |
| 23:32.46 | frozeniron | someone gave me a commodore64, and i could not even use it |
| 23:33.54 | ``Erik | well, obviously, the first things you do are |
| 23:33.54 | ``Erik | poke 53280,0 |
| 23:33.54 | ``Erik | poke 53281,0 |
| 23:33.54 | ``Erik | then it's pimped, riced out, yo |
| 23:33.55 | ``Erik | (turns the background and border black) |
| 23:34.17 | ``Erik | with a disk in, you do load "$",8 to bring the disks directory into memory, then list to see it |
| 23:34.47 | ``Erik | or load "*",8 to load the first thing ont he disk into memory, usually followed by 'run' if it has the basic stub (or is a basic program) |
| 23:35.07 | ``Erik | :D thems was sweet machines, I did a little code poking on a coleco adam (z80 cp/m) before upgrading to the good old c64 |
| 23:35.36 | ``Erik | shuts up and installed vice on his laptop |
| 23:39.44 | frozeniron | yes, but you needed a tv to make it work |
| 23:40.27 | frozeniron | stupid newbie question... |
| 23:40.31 | ``Erik | the c128 had a d15 rgb plug |
| 23:40.49 | frozeniron | yeah, but i got a 386 instead |
| 23:40.50 | ``Erik | I think it was d15... was required for 80 column mode |
| 23:40.58 | frozeniron | correct |
| 23:41.41 | ``Erik | with the 387, the 386 was far more of a number cruncher than the c64/c128, but the multimedia on the commies stomped |
| 23:42.11 | frozeniron | i used it to play descent. that was all dos was good for |
| 23:42.17 | ``Erik | doom2 |
| 23:42.23 | ``Erik | wolf3d |
| 23:42.51 | frozeniron | doom |
| 23:43.06 | frozeniron | then i got a 486 so i could install linux |
| 23:43.14 | ``Erik | I'm gonna keep jacking my jaw until you ask your question, btw |
| 23:43.24 | frozeniron | o, rite... |
| 23:43.27 | ``Erik | 386 could support linux iirc, though I first tried linux on a 486 |
| 23:43.31 | frozeniron | old times... |
| 23:43.45 | frozeniron | i am working thrugh the gmed tutoiral... |
| 23:43.48 | ``Erik | redhat 2.0, slackware 3.0... ended up adopting dilinux for a while |
| 23:43.48 | frozeniron | mged |
| 23:44.10 | frozeniron | slackware 96-suse-gentoo (gentoo now) |
| 23:44.24 | ``Erik | <-- fled to fbsd after doing kernel development |
| 23:44.25 | frozeniron | how do do dimension lines? |
| 23:44.38 | frozeniron | or make something like a conventional print |
| 23:44.53 | ``Erik | um, we don't have any real dimensioning... if you know your object, you COULD theoretically make sketch objects alongside the real geometry |
| 23:44.55 | frozeniron | i had to do a screenshot and fix it in openoffice |
| 23:45.01 | ``Erik | or post-process it |
| 23:45.20 | frozeniron | post process? |
| 23:45.40 | ``Erik | yeah, crank it up in OOo or gimp and add the lines and text... |
| 23:45.41 | frozeniron | i feel that there would be great use in having that built-in |
| 23:46.02 | ``Erik | yeah, we agree, but historically the focus has been CAE, not CAD, and the paid work is all CAE related |
| 23:46.08 | frozeniron | yes... only problem is that the exported pic was only screen res |
| 23:46.21 | frozeniron | true |
| 23:46.33 | frozeniron | if i was a programmer, i would help |
| 23:47.08 | frozeniron | i am taking a print-reading class in school, and learning a bit about gd&t |
| 23:47.25 | ``Erik | um, it's on our long 'project vision' list, but *shrug* we have mebbe 3.5 developers and someting like 5-10 years of work demanded by the people who sign the checks |
| 23:48.35 | ``Erik | and it's a nontrivial effort for an open source developer to learn the package, much less contribute a major work like dimensioning :) |
| 23:48.59 | frozeniron | true, but worthwile |
| 23:50.15 | ``Erik | damn, this schtick is just painful :( |
| 23:50.24 | frozeniron | i really like what i ? |
| 23:50.44 | frozeniron | i like what i see so far from brlcad |
| 23:51.04 | frozeniron | o, morg&mindy? |
| 23:51.45 | frozeniron | my idea was to have a seperate application that can read the db, |
| 23:51.54 | frozeniron | then add all of the features there |
| 23:52.32 | frozeniron | think that would be better than cluttering the interface with something that not everyone would use |
| 23:53.48 | frozeniron | the end result would be that i could have prints, 3d renderings, and maybe cam stuff like g-code, tool paths, etc |
| 23:54.36 | frozeniron | all saved without a specific resolution |
| 23:55.23 | frozeniron | except of course rendering |
| 23:55.43 | frozeniron | awww... |
| 23:57.48 | frozeniron | i would like something to go between brl-cad and emc2 (open source cnc controller for machine tools) |
| 23:57.56 | ``Erik | hrm, we have "archer" which is an experimental gui |
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| 23:58.31 | frozeniron | archer at command line produces blank window |
| 23:59.05 | frozeniron | i will need to investigate |
| 23:59.06 | ``Erik | there's been talk about a g-gerber converter (twingy wrote gcam to satisfy his needs, no relation to BRL-CAD other than social... http://gcam.js.cx ) |
