| 03:06.24 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33251 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/edsol.c: Too many controls for the need on hyp - reduce to what is needed |
| 03:22.33 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33252 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/db.h include/wdb.h src/conv/asc2g.c): Make asc2g aware of hyp, add includes needed for this to work |
| 03:36.53 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33253 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/tedit.c: Add ted support for hyp |
| 04:45.16 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33254 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/mirror.c: Add support to mirror for hyp |
| 04:47.15 | starseeker | blinks - apparently eto doesn't have analyze implemented either? |
| 05:03.45 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33255 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/anal.c: Stub out analyze for the hyp. Volume and area calculations for this sucker look like they may prove a real challenge. |
| 05:04.48 | starseeker | notices the tgc doesn't have a general surface area calculation either |
| 05:05.41 | starseeker | declare victory for now - looks like analyze in general needs some though and TLC - should its functionality live elsewhere? |
| 05:09.22 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33256 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Add proc-db for creation of optical lenses using rcc and epa primitives by solving the lensmaker's equation. |
| 05:10.12 | starseeker | finally bites the bullet and updates the NEWS file |
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| 05:13.00 | CIA-6 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r33257 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS TODO): Add support for editing hyp primitives to MGED. |
| 05:17.06 | starseeker | zzzz |
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| 11:15.48 | mafm | hi folks |
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| 12:37.59 | brlcad | howdy mafm |
| 12:42.01 | mafm | still fighting with my bosses |
| 12:42.03 | mafm | :) |
| 12:42.12 | mafm | I go to lunch now, to try to recover |
| 12:42.24 | brlcad | sorry to hear that.. |
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| 13:51.06 | mafm | back |
| 13:51.12 | mafm | so how're you brlcad |
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| 14:19.46 | brlcad | mafm: pretty good |
| 14:20.09 | brlcad | feels bad for the torture starseeker is presently going through |
| 15:23.55 | mafm | documentation? |
| 15:24.01 | mafm | I haven't been paying much attention |
| 15:37.20 | mafm | brlcad/trunk/src/mged/anal.c -- oh, I see the pain now |
| 15:37.46 | mafm | (under Modified Paths :) ) |
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| 16:27.34 | brlcad | mafm: heh, not exactly related, but funny nonetheless :) |
| 16:42.59 | mafm | :) |
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| 17:32.13 | Lint_Trap | hullo, anyone around? |
| 17:32.31 | archivist | wrong question |
| 17:33.05 | archivist | in irc just fire off a question and wait for an answer |
| 17:33.44 | archivist | some low traffic channels can take a few hours for an answer |
| 17:35.21 | Lint_Trap | okay: can anyone with experience with BRL-CAD as well as one (or many) of the expensive solid modeling apps give me a brief rundown of what the learning curve will be like for someone migrating from said expensive, gui-based apps? Specifically, I learned all my solid modeling on Pro-Engineer. |
| 17:36.28 | archivist | as a Solidworks user I would say steep until a nice gui comes along |
| 17:38.17 | Lint_Trap | I've done some 2d stuff in autocad that was all from the command line. do you think that would be comparable? |
| 17:38.25 | archivist | yes |
| 17:38.53 | archivist | and no as its solids |
| 17:39.13 | louipc | there is some functionality missing in command line too |
| 17:39.31 | louipc | you can't edit sketches |
| 17:39.36 | archivist | and I have not touched Autocad in a LOT of years (release 2) |
| 17:40.00 | louipc | yeah the whole modelling approach is different with solids too |
| 17:40.18 | louipc | I'd say that would be the biggest learning curve |
| 17:40.31 | louipc | CSG vs Brep anyways |
| 17:40.38 | archivist | have a play see what you think |
| 17:40.46 | Lint_Trap | in pro/e: you perform extrudes and revolves a lot. However, most are based on "internal" sketches. |
| 17:41.33 | louipc | yeah in BRL-CAD you work with 3d objects from the start. cubes, spheres, etc... |
| 17:43.30 | Lint_Trap | is it feature based modelling? |
| 17:44.10 | louipc | features like bosses, holes, etc? |
| 17:44.28 | louipc | there's nothing like that in brl-cad |
| 17:44.34 | louipc | you've got to do it all manually |
| 17:44.39 | Lint_Trap | hmm, okay |
| 17:44.44 | louipc | using cubes, spheres, cylinders, etc |
| 17:44.56 | louipc | subtract a cylinder from a part to make a hole :D |
| 17:45.02 | Lint_Trap | easy enough |
| 17:45.46 | Lint_Trap | for example, say I was doing an I-beam. In BRL I would not be able to draw the cross-section and extrude it, I'd have to create a rectangular prism and subtract 2 rectangular prisms from it |
| 17:46.03 | louipc | you can do that nowadays |
| 17:46.30 | louipc | the extrude |
| 17:46.40 | louipc | there's brep support |
| 17:47.06 | louipc | but the sketch interface ain't that great |
| 17:47.54 | Lint_Trap | is the sketch interface command line? |
| 17:49.48 | louipc | no it's GUI only |
| 17:50.00 | louipc | that's one thing I don't like about it haha |
| 17:50.24 | Lint_Trap | seems strange... may as well play on the strengths, right? |
| 17:50.25 | louipc | autocad command line made for quick work of sketching in my experience |
| 17:50.52 | Lint_Trap | exactly. once you were good, it was faster for many tasks |
| 17:51.22 | Lint_Trap | thanks for you help |
| 17:51.44 | louipc | yep. |
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| 19:13.52 | brlcad | louipc: you can edit sketches, there is a sketch editor |
| 19:13.57 | brlcad | it's just a little painful |
| 19:14.16 | brlcad | heh, and from release 2 .. we're not too far away :) |
| 19:15.05 | brlcad | ah you mentioned the sketch interface, cool |
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| 19:34.20 | starseeker | spooky |
| 19:34.32 | starseeker | and brlcad were just discussing sketch |
| 19:53.51 | mafm | bye, folkz :) |
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| 21:25.57 | IriX64 | http://www3.sympatico.ca/mario.dulisse2/cvs.tar.gz <--- windows cvs client (command line driven) |
| 21:33.25 | IriX64 | brought up mged in 7.11 it goes looking for tc.tk copied tclinit to tc.tk and it comes up fine, gui has a problem though |
| 21:39.54 | IriX64 | gonna try my hand at 7.14.0, wish me luck :) |
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| 22:14.47 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/mCPrbx89.html <---- are these pastebins still allowed |
| 22:15.04 | IriX64 | the copy at the bottom is my way of getting around it |
| 22:15.07 | IriX64 | :) |
| 22:17.43 | IriX64 | cept the copys not right |
| 22:17.52 | IriX64 | :) |
| 22:38.59 | IriX64 | im not literate in cpp is this solver_test and vm_test needed for the build to be successfull? |
| 22:41.42 | IriX64 | i dummied out solver_test by providing a dummy exe file to keep make happy and did the same for vm_test, but am i going to need those at runtime? |
| 22:47.27 | IriX64 | not sposed to dummy them out :) |
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