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| 01:31.49 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
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| 03:51.55 | poolio | brlcad: for planar faces of an NMG, is there a way to somehow get an area that encloses the face? I've got a bounding box and a surface normal...can I intersect those to find what I want? (I'm trying to create a rectangular surface that I know is large enough to fit the face, then cut it out using the trimming loops) |
| 04:30.36 | brlcad | poolio: hm |
| 04:30.47 | brlcad | I don't think you have enough information with that approach |
| 04:31.28 | brlcad | not sure why you'd want to make them all rectangular with trimming loops to make the actual surface though |
| 04:32.14 | brlcad | why not make it match it identically and make the trims simply match the edges (i.e. trim nothing like in twisted cube example) |
| 04:36.43 | poolio | Well, the main issue is I'm not sure how to create a surface that way :) |
| 04:38.11 | poolio | Do you just define more control values and it works? I think the issue might be I'm still shaky on the U-V mapping |
| 04:39.13 | brlcad | less src/other/openNURBS/example_brep/example_brep.cpp |
| 04:39.22 | poolio | Heh, I've read through that many times :) |
| 04:40.06 | brlcad | mm, there's a simpler one then too |
| 04:47.33 | brlcad | there it is, example_write/example_write.cpp |
| 04:47.56 | brlcad | that one actually helped me initially understand how uv trimmings worked |
| 04:48.33 | brlcad | that example writes out about a dozen different objects |
| 04:48.43 | brlcad | there are two or three that should be interesting to you |
| 04:48.57 | brlcad | write_trimmed_surface_example() in particular |
| 04:49.28 | brlcad | they create a simple single triangle |
| 04:50.05 | brlcad | with real xyz values so you can see how that would correspond to a given nmg face |
| 04:51.07 | poolio | ah cool, thanks. I'm off to bed but I'll read through it first thing tomorrow |
| 04:51.14 | poolio | was hoping to finish NMG schtuff by the end of thursday |
| 04:51.46 | brlcad | awesome |
| 04:55.39 | brlcad | what I don't know is whether an ON_Mesh would be sufficient since none of the nmgs we have actually need trimmings, write_mesh_example() is much simpler |
| 04:56.46 | brlcad | whether the ON_Mesh it creates will validate as IsSolid() is the question .. I suspect it won't |
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| 10:14.34 | brlcad | mafm: saw your note, but I'll reply via e-mail ;) |
| 10:14.35 | mafm | hi |
| 10:14.49 | brlcad | g'morning |
| 10:14.59 | mafm | are you going to make comments? grrr :P |
| 10:15.11 | mafm | that was a rhetoric artifact... |
| 10:19.59 | brlcad | for what it's worth, you have nothing to worry about for the midterm eval |
| 10:20.59 | mafm | heh, that's good :) |
| 10:21.45 | mafm | I only intended to make an auto-evaluation in advance, specially since I barely interacted with Robert |
| 10:21.52 | brlcad | all four of you have been making steady progress for the most part, good stuff |
| 10:21.59 | brlcad | heh, he goes by "Bob" |
| 10:22.16 | mafm | Silent Bob? :P |
| 10:22.27 | brlcad | think's he'll call him Robert all day today just for fun |
| 10:22.33 | brlcad | yep, bob is pretty silent |
| 10:22.45 | brlcad | he's been working pretty hard on libged |
| 10:22.58 | brlcad | that requires refactoring about 100k lines of code |
| 10:23.07 | brlcad | lots of lots of issues |
| 10:23.08 | mafm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_and_Silent_Bob |
| 10:23.11 | mafm | no offence :D |
| 10:23.44 | brlcad | none taken |
| 10:24.03 | mafm | I mean for him, if he happens to read the logs or something |
| 10:24.36 | brlcad | i've heard of those movies, not one of my favorite directors |
| 10:24.39 | mafm | it's just that the fact of you calling him Bob and the silent thingy, sparked in my mind :D |
| 10:24.58 | mafm | I don't like them either, although most of my friends do |
| 10:25.46 | brlcad | highly doubts bob will know the reference (or read the log, prove me wrong bob ;) |
| 10:25.59 | mafm | so do you work with Bob everyday? are you in ARL buildings? |
| 10:26.14 | brlcad | he's a pretty traditional guy, irc's a bit much for him |
| 10:26.27 | mafm | well, IRC is pretty traditional |
| 10:26.57 | mafm | myspace kiddies don't even know what it means :D |
| 10:26.59 | brlcad | heh, from one perspective I suppose |
| 10:27.56 | mafm | and many ppl (being IM users of gmail, msn etc) gets confused when I tell that I know A or B from IRC |
| 10:28.02 | brlcad | traditional "dev" in the sense he doesn't coordinate/communicate over irc for his dev needs -- he's a face-to-face guy, "maybe" e-mail if you can find an account he's using |
| 10:28.27 | mafm | teh ninja programmer! |
| 10:28.45 | brlcad | hehe |
| 10:29.33 | mafm | if he managed to refactor 100K LoCs mostly in silence, he surely must be... |
| 10:37.29 | brlcad | neat, looks like he just recently passed up john |
| 10:37.38 | brlcad | #3 all-time contributor now |
| 10:38.13 | mafm | where's that? |
| 10:38.33 | brlcad | according to ohloh, he's changed 882k lines of code in brl-cad |
| 10:38.38 | brlcad | ohloh stats site |
| 10:38.52 | brlcad | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3996/contributors?page=1 |
| 10:39.53 | mafm | oh, them |
| 10:40.16 | mafm | them punks don't have mi contributions |
| 10:40.42 | brlcad | you're on page 3 |
| 10:41.07 | brlcad | moving up through the ranks.. |
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| 10:41.46 | mafm | hum, so it works now? it didn't before |
| 10:41.50 | mafm | hi d_rossberg |
| 10:41.51 | brlcad | interesting that andre commits more frequently than you apparently, even though he's more behind on his progress |
| 10:42.00 | mafm | they had problems with caret in rt^3 |
| 10:42.33 | mafm | I think that I made much more than 25 commits, I have more than 10 some day... |
| 10:42.39 | d_rossberg | hi mafm, brlcad |
| 10:42.39 | brlcad | mafm: er, it's been indexing rt^3 for about a year |
| 10:42.48 | brlcad | howdy d_rossberg |
| 10:42.56 | mafm | well, they confirmed that as a bug |
| 10:43.15 | mafm | and there was only the main brlcad/ in enlistments |
| 10:43.59 | brlcad | huh, wonder if someone removed it |
| 10:44.10 | brlcad | because I'd added it a long while ago |
| 10:44.45 | mafm | probably you did, but it was removed because of problems indexing |
| 10:44.47 | brlcad | where was the chatter about the caret? |
| 10:47.04 | mafm | http://www.ohloh.net/forums/10/topics/1706 |
| 10:48.41 | brlcad | thx |
| 10:49.42 | mafm | $ svn log | egrep "^r.* \| mafm \|" | wc -l |
| 10:49.42 | mafm | 74 |
| 10:50.11 | mafm | $ svn log | egrep "^r.* \| mafm \|" | wc -l |
| 10:50.11 | mafm | 75 |
| 10:50.26 | mafm | (before svn update, that it affects for the logs) |
| 10:51.13 | brlcad | yeah |
| 10:51.38 | mafm | so it seems rt/3, not rt^3 :PPPP |
| 10:51.53 | brlcad | fwiw, ohloh also collapses commits if the log messages are identical within a given time window |
| 10:52.07 | brlcad | but yeah, I'd bet it's missing some commits |
| 10:52.21 | brlcad | with so few, should be able to figure out which and could let robin know |
| 10:52.32 | brlcad | he's pretty good at chasing down those problems |
| 10:53.02 | brlcad | we had a handful of issues to sort out when ohloh first went on-line a couple years ago |
| 10:53.43 | brlcad | they'd never indexed a cvs project with a history as extensive as ours, they had a few bugs in their cvs backend |
| 10:53.46 | mafm | http://www.ohloh.net/projects/3996/commits?commit=Update&page=3&query=mafm |
| 10:53.55 | mafm | it seems that it's only my commits since 30th june |
| 10:54.32 | brlcad | well, you haven't committed 50 times since 30th, so it's still missing something :) |
| 10:55.01 | mafm | hmm? |
| 10:55.18 | mafm | I mean that it's only counting the ones after 30th, which must be the 25 |
| 10:55.27 | mafm | being another ~50 before that |
| 10:55.36 | brlcad | ah |
| 10:56.00 | brlcad | could try readding the enlistment |
| 10:56.45 | brlcad | or even just telling robin that much |
| 10:57.31 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r31755 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/BrlcadCore.def: some additional exported functions in BrlcadCore |
| 10:58.00 | brlcad | wonders how long before d_rossberg just ends up exporting everything :) |
| 10:58.47 | mafm | http://www.ohloh.net/topics/1706?page=1#post_6265 |
| 10:59.45 | d_rossberg | :) my initial point was to not export everything |
| 10:59.57 | mafm | wantz to pwn commits |
| 11:00.17 | brlcad | hears "Robert" |
| 11:02.18 | mafm | it would be important for me, but the interviewers don't even know what GSoC is, not what Grid is (they always think of map grids, or UI layouts...) |
| 11:02.36 | mafm | so half the interview goes to explain what I'm really doing |
| 11:02.57 | mafm | so they would clearly won't look at my ohloh stats... :) |
| 11:04.42 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r31756 10/brlcad/trunk/ (misc/win32-msvc/CMakeLists.txt src/conv/patch/CMakeLists.txt): added the patch converters to the CMake build |
| 11:12.07 | mafm | lunch time! |
| 12:06.52 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31757 10/brlcad/trunk/m4/ (Makefile.am ax_boost_base.m4): Adding boost checking macro, configure.ac unchanged (WIP) |
| 12:07.23 | brlcad | neat |
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| 13:19.57 | mafm | hi again |
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| 14:00.09 | brlcad | good lunch? |
| 14:01.01 | mafm | pretty good |
| 14:01.53 | mafm | but now I have these network outages... they're switching (pun intended?) the router |
| 14:08.05 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31758 10/brlcad/trunk/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Added shift-grip functionality to libtclcad's ged object. |
| 14:32.06 | mafm | brlcad: could you briefly describe how to imagine a session where you would model a simples totem of cubes/balls/whatever, composed by ~3 pieces? |
| 14:34.51 | clock_ | in a rpp 0 1 0 1 0 1 ... |
| 14:34.52 | clock_ | then rt |
| 14:36.31 | clock_ | would have to try it actually out and record everything he types |
| 14:37.07 | clock_ | tries to avoid the Graphical Unusable Interface |
| 14:38.11 | brlcad | mafm: I'd start by thinking of it from a read-only perspective, locking down the synchronization of the gui with the command-line (so they are in-fact one in the same), and getting all of the visualization manipulations working |
| 14:38.20 | brlcad | *then* thinking about creating stuff ;) |
| 14:39.05 | brlcad | that is all going to tie into the geometry service framework that is being developed |
| 14:39.28 | brlcad | that will actually manage the actual commands possible (like 'in' and others you find in mged) |
| 14:40.05 | clock_ | can't get it to stay on the display more than split second |
| 14:40.23 | clock_ | mafm: do you also want to see what you've created? Then I am of no help, I can't do that even myself :) |
| 14:42.46 | mafm | clock_: it's for my new project, not mged |
| 14:42.48 | brlcad | otherwise, how I'd forsee that happening is similar to the IOE example where you'd have a content panel on the left or right that would have your primitives, you'd drag them into the view to create them in a stack or use an on-demand command to create them with the keyboard |
| 14:44.31 | mafm | with locking down sync you mean to only update the GUI (and OGRE?) on keystrokes, instead of the usual renderloop of 3D apps? That would make sense for an app like this without animations, I guess |
| 14:45.19 | brlcad | mafm: if you're to the point where you want to start seeing geometry, you should probably hook in libged -- it's already good to go for wireframe and polygonal display |
| 14:46.17 | mafm | the wireframe stuff is already sorted out -- it's just to switch a flag in the renderwindow or camera, already created a command for that |
| 14:46.46 | mafm | and I'm starting to create a geometry, tried with a tetraedron, but no luck showing it |
| 14:48.29 | mafm | so basically, the app would inquiry libged about available primitives, commands |
| 14:48.54 | mafm | then create a panel with the primitives and zone as "sheet" |
| 14:49.18 | mafm | and then allow to apply commands on the objects in the sheet, or via keyboard |
| 15:04.26 | brlcad | mafm: it's not fully sorted out ;) .. I saw the commits |
| 15:08.23 | brlcad | there's various complications given we're dealing with unevaluated CSG |
| 15:08.55 | brlcad | toggling from wire to poly to shaded only works if you already have an evaluated boundary representation (e.g. polygonal) |
| 15:09.07 | brlcad | which we don't always have |
| 15:09.35 | brlcad | so *all* you might have would be a wireframe representation represented as a raw display list of points and segments |
| 15:10.01 | brlcad | needs to be able to manage that in addition to polygonal forms that can be more easily toggled |
| 15:11.57 | brlcad | but yeah, you have it spot on for the rest! |
| 15:12.23 | brlcad | query what's available and display/respond accordingly |
| 15:12.57 | mafm | Oh, I see |
| 15:13.16 | mafm | I'm not sure if opengl can work with non-triangles really |
| 15:13.21 | mafm | or rather, OGRE |
| 15:16.08 | brlcad | it can, it all boils down to display lists in the scene |
| 15:16.34 | brlcad | and even if it couldn't, you could fake it if you absolutely had to |
| 15:20.24 | mafm | yep, I suppose |
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| 15:20.34 | mafm | but a.t.m I can't even show the tetraedron :D |
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| 15:32.57 | pacman87 | my computer doesnt like me anymore |
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| 15:36.06 | brlcad | quick scan, looks like http://www.ogre3d.org/docs/api/html/classOgre_1_1SceneManager.html#Ogre_1_1SceneManagera114 has what you'd need probably |
| 15:37.12 | brlcad | calling Ogre::SceneManager::manualRender() or Ogre::SceneManager::renderObjects() or Ogre::SceneManager::renderSingleObject() |
| 15:37.30 | brlcad | and passing the right container that would just represent a wireframe |
| 15:37.46 | brlcad | otherwise you could turn the wires into pipes and spheres |
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| 15:50.19 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31763 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (pcSolver.h solver_test.cpp): #include cleanup . boost specific includes already in pcNetwork.h not repeated |
| 15:51.30 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31764 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: Added declaration for ged_vrot. |
| 16:01.53 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31765 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/tra.c: Added more view related commands. |
| 16:13.54 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31766 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: Added declarations for ged_mrot and ged_rot. |
| 16:23.24 | mafm | mm, I guess that the conversion is more feasible |
| 16:24.42 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31767 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libged/libged.vcproj: Added files to windows build. |
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| 16:38.59 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31768 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/boost/ (53 files in 22 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:39.02 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: boost::spirit import and other boost updates. Spirit is an object-oriented |
| 16:39.04 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: recursive-descent parser generator framework implemented using template |
| 16:39.06 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: meta-programming techniques. Expression templates allow us to approximate the |
| 16:39.10 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: syntax of Extended Backus-Normal Form (EBNF) completely in C++. Spirit would be |
| 16:39.12 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: particularly helpful in writing the parser for generating constraints from |
| 16:39.17 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: expressions for libpc with its object oriented methodology and particularly |
| 17:11.19 | brlcad | yay for finding spirit++ |
| 17:11.31 | brlcad | was going to suggest that to him |
| 17:11.43 | brlcad | that or good ol' lex/yacc |
| 17:14.25 | prasad_ | good ol' lex yacc |
| 17:14.41 | prasad_ | ply has the best implementation of it |
| 17:14.56 | prasad_ | or should i say most intuitive |
| 17:15.08 | prasad_ | representation |
| 17:21.39 | mafm | w00t |
| 17:21.55 | mafm | I can se my tetraedron \o/ |
| 17:22.11 | pacman87 | congrats |
| 17:23.06 | mafm | first step for creating pr0n programatically :P |
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| 17:51.28 | mafm | brr |
| 17:51.30 | mafm | damn router |
| 18:02.58 | mafm | well, nuff for today, no commits |
| 18:04.58 | mafm | see you! |
| 18:05.04 | pacman87 | farewell |
| 18:05.21 | mafm | same |
| 18:05.26 | mafm | keep up the good work :) |
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| 18:17.58 | poolio | brlcad: for the trimmed circle they aren't specifying the iso (the direction that it trims). When I tried to add in another point and make it trim for a square it's telling me I need to define it...is there a reason for that? (why you don't need to specy for a triangle but do for shapes with more points) |
| 18:18.29 | andrecastelo | hey guys |
| 18:23.32 | andrecastelo | brlcad: i've reworked some stuff, commented a lot of code, set the same color for both hits and misses.. and now it draws two vertical lines |
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| 19:00.37 | andrecastelo | are you there ``Erik ? |
| 19:13.42 | andrecastelo | pokes CIA-60 |
| 19:13.52 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03andrecastelo * r31769 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/viewmlt.c: Commented some parts of code and simplified view_pixel. It shows the silhouette of the image now. |
| 19:14.03 | andrecastelo | thanks CIA-60 |
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| 19:48.43 | pacman87 | wishes there was an option for 'focus follows eyes' instead of 'focus follows mouse' |
| 19:50.39 | poolio | pacman87: that's what tiled WMs are for :) |
| 19:52.31 | pacman87 | i have two code windows side by side, both with tabs. one is for reference, the other one i code in, and too many times i start typing in my 'reference' side instead of the 'code' side |
| 19:53.39 | alex_joni | pacman87: I think there was some experimental "follows eyes" thingie |
| 19:56.08 | pacman87 | alex_joni: i'd still have problems because all my code is in the same window (kdevelop) |
| 20:09.05 | brlcad | poolio: hm, that's interesting about the trimming loop .. dunno other than there may be special code in there for handling triangles where it simply defaults to clockwise or CC orientation |
| 20:09.27 | brlcad | yet in the more generalized case, there is no such default for that class |
| 20:09.42 | brlcad | just a guess, would have to dig through the code |
| 20:14.45 | andrecastelo | brlcad: hey, brlcad, it works now! |
| 20:14.56 | andrecastelo | :D |
| 20:15.39 | poolio | brlcad: It looks like special triangle code...it also fails when the edge is along an edge of the surface... |
| 20:16.06 | poolio | I found some code in Dump() that looks like it calculates the proper trimming direction somehow so I'm using that |
| 20:17.51 | poolio | This is what I've been stuck on (both in the nmg_brep() code and modifying the write_trimmed to write a rectangle): Distance from end of ON_Brep.m_T[2] to 3d edge is 1. (edge tol = 0, trim tol ~ 0). |
| 21:03.20 | poolio | wow. I just spent around 2 hours trying to get the rectangle trim to work and the issue was that I had a 2 instead of a 3. rawr. |
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| 21:34.53 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31770 10/brlcad/trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): doxygen edit: division of libpc into modules |
| 21:37.51 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03homovulgaris * r31771 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (Makefile.am pcParser.h solver_test.cpp): Skeleton Structure for libpc Parser: pcexpression_grammar, Parser class and functor interface defined |
| 21:46.28 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31772 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/wdb_obj.c: Fixed bug in get_new_name() that caused an infinite loop when using the dbconcat command with NO_AFFIX. |
| 21:55.39 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: 03andrecastelo * r31773 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/viewmlt.c: |
| 21:55.41 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: View_pixel() now receives the color from ap->color; Commented the creation and |
| 21:55.43 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: insertion of point_lists and path_lists. It is always creating the path list, |
| 21:55.45 | CIA-60 | BRL-CAD: but it isn't accessible in view_end(), thus creating memory leaks. |
| 22:17.01 | brlcad | andrecastelo: cool! |
| 22:17.06 | brlcad | ... what works? :) |
| 22:17.31 | andrecastelo | brlcad: not much, but it shows the silhouette |
| 22:17.33 | andrecastelo | http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1521/silhouettezu3.jpg |
| 22:17.49 | brlcad | woo hoo! |
| 22:18.15 | andrecastelo | i was having problems freeing the loads of structures that i added |
| 22:18.22 | andrecastelo | i mean, i still am |
| 22:18.55 | andrecastelo | i've added the structs allocation and insertion in the rayhit function |
| 22:19.42 | pacman87 | brlcad: allowing the sketch to be on both sides of the revolve axis complicates things immensely |
| 22:19.53 | brlcad | poolio: if distance from trim coordinate to an end coordinate can mean that you have a uv-3d coordinate mismatch |
| 22:20.23 | andrecastelo | it goes like this - a point_t is in struct point_list, that is inside a struct path_list, which is inside the struct mlt_app |
| 22:20.51 | brlcad | andrecastelo: sounds reasonable |
| 22:21.43 | andrecastelo | yep, but i allocate memory for the path list inside rayhit, if it doesn't exist already.. but despite the checks, it always allocates memory for it |
| 22:21.50 | andrecastelo | there was this huge memory leak |
| 22:26.25 | brlcad | sounds like you need to initialize it to zero/null |
| 22:27.16 | brlcad | andrecastelo: the next step is to probably get flat shading working |
| 22:30.09 | brlcad | for that, you look at each hit, get the surface normal and compare deviation from your light source(s) |
| 22:30.19 | brlcad | use that to color the intensity |
| 22:31.31 | brlcad | pretty trivial step, but that'll give you some shape definition |
| 22:33.19 | brlcad | then maybe add in some basic logic for optional distance falloff just to give you some testable definition |
| 22:34.07 | brlcad | then add shadows so you have to account for secondary rays |
| 22:34.25 | brlcad | at that point you should be just about ready to jump to forward path tracing |
| 22:43.48 | andrecastelo | hm, ok, ok |
| 22:44.06 | andrecastelo | is the shadework system needed? |
| 22:44.32 | andrecastelo | (i mean, struct shadework and viewshade() function) |
| 22:48.33 | starseeker | Grr... where are the irc logs again? |
| 22:48.45 | pacman87 | starseeker: in the topic |
| 22:48.56 | pacman87 | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ |
| 22:49.09 | starseeker | Ah, right - thanks |
| 22:49.38 | starseeker | brlcad: Is there any way we can provide a searchable interface to the IRC logs? |
| 22:53.04 | brlcad | andrecastelo: for you to figure out ;) |
| 22:53.22 | andrecastelo | hm ok ;} |
| 22:53.37 | pacman87 | starseeker: i wrote a script to download the logs, so i can search locally |
| 22:53.44 | brlcad | starseeker: yeah, i've got a placeholder for the logs in my "site map" (on paper) |
| 22:53.54 | brlcad | would love to pretty-print/colorize them |
| 22:54.04 | brlcad | riker's logs are crap for many reasons |
| 22:54.35 | starseeker | Actually, the formatting could be worse - but gzipping them by default and no searchable interface... |
| 22:54.38 | starseeker | arrgh |
| 22:55.14 | starseeker | The best irc log system I've ever seen is ircbrowse.com for #lisp, but it's SLLLOOOOWWWW these days (to the point of un-usability) and it's search has been busted for years now :-( |
| 22:55.15 | brlcad | I could allow that irc logging group that made /. headlines last year in here, they've been asking if we want to be indexed |
| 22:55.28 | brlcad | they provide automatic logging, very nice interface .. mildly intrusive |
| 22:55.38 | starseeker | what group is that? |
| 22:55.52 | brlcad | mm.. i'll have to hunt |
| 22:56.25 | brlcad | they made headlines because they were quitely logging thousands of channels for months before going live without anyone's permission |
| 22:56.33 | starseeker | ouch |
| 22:56.52 | brlcad | they responded to the outcry and removed everyone and made it opt-in instead of opt-out after than happened though |
| 22:57.27 | archivist | irseekbot |
| 22:58.32 | brlcad | yeah, that's them |
| 22:58.48 | archivist | we have one in #mysql atm |
| 22:59.11 | archivist | they dont seem to stay up properly |
| 23:00.22 | starseeker | tries to figure out the irseek search |
| 23:00.35 | brlcad | example: http://www.irseek.com/result.php?keywords=%22BRL-CAD%22 |
| 23:01.01 | starseeker | what if I only want to search within one channel |
| 23:02.42 | brlcad | don't think it has that option directly, maybe add #channel but I suspect that just adds 'channel' as a keyword |
| 23:02.54 | starseeker | yep |
| 23:02.56 | starseeker | meh |
| 23:03.16 | brlcad | ah, I see what you're wanting to do |
| 23:03.42 | starseeker | the ircbrowse search used to allow me to search #lisp for keywords, and specify how many minutes of conversation around the keyword hit to display |
| 23:04.01 | starseeker | has yet to find any system to match it |
| 23:04.33 | brlcad | nods |
| 23:04.54 | starseeker | must be one SOMEWHERE though - if I can find it, would it be an option for us? |
| 23:05.24 | brlcad | mm.. i bet there's a drupal module somewhere.. |
| 23:05.28 | archivist | easy enough to add to a database type logger |
| 23:05.50 | archivist | I should add one to the #mysql bot |
| 23:08.29 | brlcad | hm, looks like there's a bot and cgi:irc as a drupal module, but no irc log pretty-printer |
| 23:08.43 | brlcad | could mod the bot I suppose |
| 23:12.04 | starseeker | This is interesting, although I don't know how mature it is: www.irc-collective.org |
| 23:14.14 | brlcad | woo.. the bot does log |
| 23:14.15 | brlcad | http://drupal.org/project/bot |
| 23:15.44 | brlcad | horrible theme, but an example: http://www.disobey.com/bot/log/drupal-themes |
| 23:16.08 | starseeker | Are the logs searchable? |
| 23:17.29 | brlcad | to store content as a drupal module, it 'should' be searchable like all of the site content |
| 23:17.43 | brlcad | would have to install it and test |
| 23:20.45 | starseeker | really a shame that the irc collective project is inactive |
| 23:21.43 | starseeker | can't help thinking how awesome it would be to have a link to display all the images linked to in the last X hours (obvious problems with nasty links though...) |
| 23:22.27 | starseeker | unbelievable - I don't see ANY apps that mention the type of searching ircbrowse had. I must be looking in the wrong place |
| 23:41.55 | yukonbob | hello, cadheads |
| 23:54.59 | poolio | woot! an NMG cube works :D |
| 23:55.28 | poolio | One line of code changed and voila. I recall thinking about t his bug while coding but I guess I never fixed / documented it. |
