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| 01:00.06 | ``Erik | no, due to idiotic "enterprise management" |
| 01:53.15 | louipc | duude |
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| 03:52.11 | pacman87 | how 'usable' does code need to be for check-in? |
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| 03:53.17 | pacman87 | my hyp crashes in a few places due to poorly stubbed functions (i hope it's just the stubs), but should affect anything else that doesnt' make a hyp |
| 03:53.29 | pacman87 | s/should/shouldn't |
| 03:53.43 | louipc | usable enough so it doesn't break anything else I'm sure :D |
| 03:53.58 | pacman87 | so if it's the only thing that's broken, it's fine? |
| 03:54.23 | pacman87 | trying to balance 'commit early, commit often' with 'dont' break anything' |
| 03:55.15 | louipc | you could just keep a bunch of patches too :D |
| 03:56.49 | poolio | pacman87: branch? :P |
| 03:57.04 | pacman87 | it doesnt break anything else |
| 03:57.12 | pacman87 | it just doesnt always work |
| 03:58.17 | pacman87 | and at this point, i dont think a branch would be more useful than just holding off committing |
| 03:58.57 | pacman87 | unless someone else wants to fill in some stubs, and in that case, g_hyp.c is already there |
| 04:08.36 | andrecastelo | pacman87: g_hyp.c was giving me trouble compiling :B |
| 04:08.57 | pacman87 | what error? |
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| 04:13.43 | pacman87 | https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/hyp.png and https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/hyp1.png |
| 04:17.44 | pacman87 | andrecastelo: what sort of trouble? |
| 04:18.34 | andrecastelo | pacman87: sorry for the delay.. wasn't compiling because of the declarations not in the beginning of the function |
| 04:20.45 | pacman87 | https://webspace.utexas.edu/trv82/www/hyp2.png |
| 04:21.47 | louipc | nice |
| 04:22.09 | pacman87 | that's all hardcoded, unfortunately |
| 04:22.21 | pacman87 | five slices, eight points |
| 04:22.34 | pacman87 | just to figure out how to do it |
| 04:22.44 | pacman87 | now i need to go back and work out the tolerances |
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| 05:31.06 | pacman87 | goodnight all |
| 05:56.23 | brlcad | cya pacman87 |
| 05:59.38 | brlcad | cool, start of a wireframe :) |
| 06:01.17 | brlcad | pacman87: nobody will be using or relying on hyp until you're "done", so as long as it compiles you should be just fine committing as frequently as possible |
| 06:02.57 | brlcad | and if they're petty compilation issues, you'll just learn to spot them as others point them out and/or fix them for you (you should be on the commits mailing list, it helps) |
| 06:08.27 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31210 10/brlcad/trunk/include/conf/Makefile.am: need to remove COUNT during distclean so distcheck will work |
| 06:15.46 | brlcad | starseeker: found a nice site with lots of relevant tidbits: http://resourceguide.eai.org/preservation/singlechannel.html |
| 06:16.31 | brlcad | good reading, lots of things I was saying and then some |
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| 07:00.06 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31211 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: add detailed release notes about the mirror and nirt changes as well as special mention of the cool new tire proc-db. begin 7.12.4 relese steps. |
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| 07:14.23 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31212 10/brlcad/trunk/ChangeLog: svn2cl --break-before-msg --include-rev --revision {2008-04-23}:HEAD --stdout > ChangeLog ... preparing the 7.12.4 release. |
| 07:16.06 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31213 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: make bumping the actual version file happen after changelog step |
| 07:16.28 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31214 10/brlcad/trunk/include/conf/PATCH: bump to 7.12.4 |
| 07:47.54 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31215 10/brlcad/trunk/Makefile.am: make -w is not portable to at least bsd make and I don't see a good way to make it conditional |
| 08:24.32 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31216 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: helps to use frs instructions that actually work |
| 08:29.43 | brlcad | pacman87: that's pretty much case in point by what is meant about frequent commits .. it tells a story, you can see when I'm working, what I'm doing, the good and the bad, but each step being a succint action that is functional |
| 08:30.25 | brlcad | (granted the release process has a lot of small steps, but it holds for most development code too) |
| 08:32.33 | louipc | I'm finding good committing requires some foresight |
| 08:32.52 | clock_ | brlcad: does BRL-CAD have some assembler-optimized parts? Lilke hand-coded assembler for x86? |
| 08:33.05 | louipc | I still need to develop some of that arrrgh |
| 08:33.48 | brlcad | louipc: indeed .. it changes the way you code so that you work in small incremental functional steps |
| 08:33.57 | brlcad | very effective and self-documenting to an extent |
| 08:37.33 | brlcad | clock_: there was at one point, but we tend to avoid getting architecture-specific as that's generally really high-maintenance code with minimal payoff |
| 08:39.37 | brlcad | the 30%-300% gain on some hand-coded assembler that only a couple devs can modify is washed out as soon as there's a new favorite, the algorithm needs to change, the devs change, and that performance is often what you'll have with next year's hardware anyways |
| 08:40.40 | louipc | I'm sure it was worth it in 1980 :D |
| 08:40.42 | brlcad | that said, if someone wanted to work on it, it wouldn't really be prevented/discouraged .. just would have to be entirely conditional with a "clean C" variant for everyone else |
| 08:41.20 | brlcad | nah, even back then the percentage gains were about the same |
| 08:41.34 | brlcad | you were just as likely to have a compiler that optimized better |
| 08:41.46 | brlcad | it really is high-maintenance code |
| 08:42.58 | brlcad | pays off nicely on small routines that perform some small task, but soon as you move up into application logic it really becomes a burden |
| 08:43.20 | brlcad | we could have our math libs in assembler, or the boolean evaluator in assembler, that'd probably pay off nicely |
| 08:43.38 | brlcad | but the areas of values are somewhat niche |
| 08:44.16 | brlcad | wonders if someone(tm) else can update freshmeat with this source release info |
| 08:47.04 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31217 10/brlcad/tags/rel-7-12-4/: tag release 7.12.4 |
| 08:50.42 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31218 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/cvs.txt: include a disclaimer that these guidelines are obsolete and need updating |
| 08:52.29 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31219 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS README include/conf/PATCH): release is tagged, bump to 7.12.5 in anticipation of 7.12.6 next month |
| 08:55.20 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31220 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: give a better example of tagging a release (remote method that should always work), don't mention nonexistent cvspolicy.txt file |
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| 09:10.55 | brlcad | moin d_rossberg |
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| 09:22.04 | d_rossberg | moin moin brlcad |
| 09:22.38 | d_rossberg | is out for lunch |
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| 10:59.20 | brlcad | mm.. breakfast woulda been good |
| 10:59.58 | brlcad | yawns content that the release is posted |
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| 12:44.23 | ``Erik | *yargn* |
| 12:44.56 | ``Erik | BRL-CAD had a couple hand coded assembly files, I think the last couple were removed already... a fast square root solver for a gould and something similar for a vax iirc |
| 12:47.46 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r31223 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/arced.c: strchr needs string.h |
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| 13:57.49 | poolio | mornin' |
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| 15:31.59 | andrecastelo | hey morning |
| 15:42.24 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31228 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/ged.h src/libged/ged_private.h): Moved a few defines from ged.h to ged_private.h |
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| 15:47.05 | andrecastelo | hey ``Erik , check this out : http://rafb.net/p/vpaecY70.html |
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| 16:56.27 | ``Erik | and he's gone again, heh |
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| 21:33.01 | andrecastelo | ok, good evening everyone |
| 21:34.43 | andrecastelo | hi brlcad, ``Erik |
| 21:40.29 | poolio | aloo andrecastelo |
| 21:40.37 | andrecastelo | hey poolio |
| 21:40.44 | ``Erik | oi, andre |
| 21:40.52 | ``Erik | your auto* issues, is that on linux or windows? |
| 21:41.22 | andrecastelo | on linux |
| 21:41.29 | ``Erik | are you on linux right now? |
| 21:41.35 | andrecastelo | i've mounted the windows on it |
| 21:41.37 | andrecastelo | yes |
| 21:41.43 | andrecastelo | i've also tried the bash autogen.sh |
| 21:41.47 | ``Erik | I'm wondering if running "bash autogen.sh" (and making sure it completes correctly) might help |
| 21:41.47 | andrecastelo | same problem |
| 21:41.48 | ``Erik | ok |
| 21:41.58 | ``Erik | brlcad thinks it might be a line end issue |
| 21:41.58 | andrecastelo | let me paste for you |
| 21:42.06 | ``Erik | I saw the rafb.net link |
| 21:42.34 | andrecastelo | yeah, basically the same error -> http://rafb.net/p/xmzEcc13.html |
| 21:42.39 | ``Erik | perhaps if you checked a version out from subversion onto your linux partition (using linux) and tried there? *shrug* |
| 21:42.47 | andrecastelo | hm ok, will do |
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| 21:43.25 | ``Erik | it seems weird to me that it'd fail like that, and the error messages seem... strangely mutilated O.o |
| 21:52.34 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: ok, checkout on its way |
| 21:53.23 | ``Erik | okie, I'm gonna go drive home now :D be back in a bit |
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| 23:31.36 | andrecastelo | hey brlcad, i'm ready to commit the msvc9 changes |
| 23:32.02 | andrecastelo | is there anything i should wait or do first? |
| 23:40.50 | brlcad | howdy andrecastelo |
| 23:41.04 | brlcad | nope, just do it :) |
| 23:41.10 | andrecastelo | hm, ok |
| 23:41.11 | brlcad | presumably run make distcheck? |
| 23:41.30 | brlcad | that'll make sure you add the dir correctly (if *nix) |
| 23:42.20 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03pacman87 * r31233 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/g_hyp.c: Fix hyp's plot() to draw elliptical cross sections and hyperboloids not centered at the origin |
| 23:42.23 | andrecastelo | i'm on windows right now.. but regarding the configure and autogen problems, you were right. When i added the changes manually using linux, they ran ok |
| 23:42.39 | brlcad | figured, seen it before |
| 23:43.07 | brlcad | usually it's windows folks that download a unix zip though |
| 23:59.51 | PrezzKennedy | frantically clicks download on all the files without reading |
