| 00:21.44 | ``Erik | heh, no, it was cook, sorry :) baking, etc |
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| 01:03.41 | andrecastelo | good evening everyone :) |
| 01:07.17 | pacman87 | hi andrecastelo |
| 01:07.23 | andrecastelo | hey hi pacman87 |
| 01:47.21 | brlcad | howdy guys |
| 01:48.03 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31182 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: nirt -e works once again |
| 02:02.28 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31183 10/brlcad/trunk/ (TODO src/libfb/if_ogl.c): better to be slow and visible than vast without a refresh. haven't found why the buffer isn't refreshing yet, but it at least restores functionality. maybe bob can track it down... |
| 02:06.57 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r31184 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: annotate that bob added a -l option to the dbfindtree command so that it'll return the paths in a list instead of the default pretty-print tree. useful for scripting, presumably something dave loman needed. |
| 02:32.40 | starseeker_ | starts having fun stringing -f and -e flags in sequence onto a nirt command... |
| 02:36.09 | yukonbob | waves in; "Hello, cadheads" |
| 03:55.10 | *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || Channel logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || BRL-CAD is participating in the 2008 Google Summer of Code! The fun begins this week! (May 26th) |
| 04:05.00 | brlcad | thoughts and comments welcome: http://brlcad.org/~sean/BRL-CAD%20Passions.pdf |
| 04:05.56 | brlcad | haven't even proofed it once yet, so I'm looking for big picture feedback, not spelling/comma/grammar tweaks |
| 04:08.12 | brlcad | the intent is global audience, high-level mission/vision/goals with some minimal background information |
| 04:23.25 | starseeker_ | how big will the display holding this be? |
| 04:23.33 | starseeker_ | or rather, how large a poster is it? |
| 04:24.06 | starseeker_ | if it's intended to be read from a distance, that's a lot of text |
| 04:26.20 | starseeker_ | Content wise, I like it |
| 04:26.48 | starseeker_ | gets the sense that about 10 slides of a presentation are living on one page ;-) |
| 04:36.14 | yukonbob | brlcad: it's sexy looking. Nice work. |
| 04:36.52 | yukonbob | Off top of head, the bottom/middle dark block might best be represented with bullets. It reads a bit "wordy" to me |
| 04:36.55 | yukonbob | . |
| 04:39.11 | yukonbob | waves to starseeker_ |
| 04:46.01 | brlcad | it's not for poster/presentation perse -- it's just an informative information sheet |
| 04:46.05 | starseeker_ | waves back |
| 04:46.17 | starseeker_ | Ah - cool |
| 04:46.56 | brlcad | yukonbob: hm, why do you say that? maybe too much jumping out? |
| 04:47.17 | starseeker_ | is brain dead atm - I'll see if I can some up with something coherent tomorrow... |
| 04:47.18 | brlcad | the intent there is to answer the "what is brl-cad" question |
| 04:47.40 | brlcad | no comment is a perfectly acceptible comment too :) |
| 04:47.42 | yukonbob | it just reads really long -- I think it'd be more digestible if the pieces were bite-sized. |
| 04:47.53 | yukonbob | Just that one block, though. |
| 04:48.12 | yukonbob | (although, the top right quote is pretty long-winded too... but what can you do with a quote ;) |
| 04:48.18 | brlcad | care to suggest something more condensed? :) |
| 04:48.37 | brlcad | yeah, the quotes are what they are for the most part |
| 04:48.47 | brlcad | they don't really read well piece-wise |
| 04:49.03 | brlcad | the right one already has a huge chunk cut out, hence the ellipses |
| 04:49.06 | yukonbob | s/,/->/, basically -- I think I might pick a good looking bullet and make a bulleted list of the points that make that long sentence. |
| 04:49.38 | yukonbob | (where "->" == my ascii bullet) |
| 05:08.20 | brlcad | yukonbob: what if it were simply smaller and/or without the fontification? |
| 05:09.04 | brlcad | i'm not sure a bullet list would really look good with the given layout seeing as there's a bulleted list right before it |
| 05:09.26 | brlcad | right now there's also a direct correllation -- four bullets, four sections |
| 05:10.00 | brlcad | could de-emphasize the what is brl-cad, or go for a much shorter version |
| 05:10.01 | yukonbob | brlcad: re: smaller a/o fontification -- perhaps |
| 05:10.25 | yukonbob | or you could simplify the whole works: What is BRL-CAD? |
| 05:10.31 | yukonbob | **AWESOME** |
| 05:10.48 | brlcad | use something like the 80 char version instead of that 512 char version |
| 05:10.49 | yukonbob | (if you don't believe me, you suck) |
| 05:10.59 | brlcad | hehe |
| 05:11.10 | brlcad | I truely did consider getting all punchy in it |
| 05:11.11 | yukonbob | laughs at self... |
| 05:11.30 | yukonbob | it's a _really_ tricky project to capture on a placard |
| 05:11.46 | yukonbob | gets a glass of OJ, too |
| 05:11.56 | yukonbob | anybody want anything while I'm up? |
| 05:12.40 | brlcad | debates caffeinating self |
| 05:15.13 | yukonbob | enjoys a square of 70% cocoa chocolate, passes one to brlcad as a cheap caffeine sub., and/or tasty treat |
| 05:18.14 | yukonbob | also has a vision of the 4 bullets in top-middle square being "pointing fingers", but that's a typographical matter. |
| 05:18.25 | yukonbob | would seem to fit the style |
| 05:23.00 | brlcad | i'll play with that idea some |
| 05:24.22 | yukonbob | just thinks that the current bullets don't do the nice underlines (ie: "<------------>", and the "bow-tie" under "BRL-C" at bottom) justice. |
| 05:24.30 | yukonbob | *BRL-CAD |
| 05:28.13 | brlcad | the <--> was a total afterthought .. it was just a line at first ;) .. and looked better with arrows than without |
| 05:28.52 | brlcad | the main point is actually the one top-front-center |
| 05:31.34 | yukonbob | -_.:Our PassioN:._- ? |
| 05:34.04 | PrezKennedy | you guys deserve 20% raises for the level of dedication |
| 05:36.04 | brlcad | yukonbob: better suggestion? :) |
| 05:37.19 | brlcad | PrezKennedy: gotta just find what you absolutely love doing, and then find someone willing to pay you to do it ;) |
| 05:37.36 | brlcad | absolutely loves working on brl-cad |
| 05:39.07 | PrezKennedy | im pretty happy with what im doing... just not something i wanna do for too much longer... |
| 05:40.19 | brlcad | that's just contentment, gotta find your passion |
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| 05:41.39 | PrezzKennedy | sweet |
| 05:43.26 | yukonbob | brlcad: suggestions for what? |
| 05:44.18 | yukonbob | was clarifying what you meant when you said "the main point is actually..." -- what you meant by "main point". |
| 05:45.32 | yukonbob | likes the poster -- it's good looking, and informative; /me humbly submits those two points as "improvements" (bullets->"pointing fingers", and less-wordy bottom-center, somehow) |
| 05:46.17 | yukonbob | smells the rain coming down -- apropos, I guess, since he's got the 'Stacey Earle' last.fm station on... |
| 05:46.18 | brlcad | yukonbob: ahh, yeah, that bit |
| 05:47.31 | yukonbob | laughs at PrezzKennedy's entrance... "sweet" |
| 05:47.34 | yukonbob | Kramer-like |
| 05:52.22 | PrezzKennedy | nite y'all |
| 05:54.20 | yukonbob | ciao PrezzKennedy |
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| 12:33.26 | andrecastelo | hey good morning everyone |
| 12:48.52 | ``Erik | salutations |
| 12:52.06 | ``Erik | ponders buying a new ibook |
| 13:08.11 | PrezzzKennedy | snap out of it! |
| 13:09.42 | ``Erik | heh |
| 13:10.21 | ``Erik | I have a program I want to run that only works on mac or windows, and I'm not fucktarded enough to tolerate a windows machine, so it comes down to "which mac" :D |
| 13:18.26 | PrezzzKennedy | i tolerate the windows machine because the mac is overpriced and mostly useless without Parallels |
| 13:20.10 | alex_joni | ``Erik: get the Air-version |
| 13:20.12 | ``Erik | heh, useless how? |
| 13:20.33 | alex_joni | no vista crap on it |
| 13:20.39 | ``Erik | and the last ibook I bought was $700, which doesn't strike me as overpriced |
| 13:21.03 | alex_joni | ``Erik: eeePc? or OLPC? |
| 13:21.06 | ``Erik | the current ibook I'm looking at is 1300, which is cheaper than a windows laptop with the same features |
| 13:21.11 | alex_joni | way lower than half that :) |
| 13:21.21 | ``Erik | needs to run world of warcraft, alex_joni :( |
| 13:21.28 | PrezzzKennedy | does it have a 17" screen? |
| 13:21.40 | alex_joni | ``Erik: there's a version you can play with cards |
| 13:21.44 | ``Erik | the one I'm looking at is 13", not a macbook pro |
| 13:22.15 | PrezzzKennedy | i couldnt find a macbook pro with a 17" screen that wasnt less than like $2000 |
| 13:22.47 | ``Erik | the 17" is nice as a "portable" class, but too big for a laptop type, I really liked the old 12" ibook more than the 15 and 17 macbooks as far as size |
| 13:23.05 | PrezzzKennedy | my laptop is my only computer |
| 13:23.07 | ``Erik | you can use a 12" on a plane comfortably |
| 13:23.29 | ``Erik | <-- keeps servers on his lowest floor, sits at laptops exclusively at home |
| 13:23.52 | PrezzzKennedy | plays games that are new... |
| 13:24.03 | ``Erik | <-- thinking a 13" ibook 2.4gz, 2g ram, 160g hdd, dvd burner, plus a keyboard, razer pro mouse and a 20" wide screen lcd |
| 13:24.19 | ``Erik | that should keep me happy for several years |
| 13:24.47 | ``Erik | I prefer to play games that are fun :> I still fire up 'vice' to play games once in a while |
| 13:27.57 | PrezzzKennedy | the new games are quite fun... youll see in 4 years when they finally get ported... :P |
| 13:29.00 | ``Erik | heh, ported to what, mac? or linux? seems mac ports come out fast, and with apples sales screaming up and microsofts down, the critical mass for exclusion seems to be disappearing *shrug* |
| 13:29.16 | ``Erik | I don't play games too much (better things to do), but I enjoy the few I do play... |
| 13:29.29 | PrezzzKennedy | when youre at the bottom the only place to go is up... |
| 13:29.39 | ``Erik | actually, for games, bsd is the bottom |
| 13:29.46 | ``Erik | actually, no |
| 13:29.51 | ``Erik | I bet beos is lower |
| 13:29.52 | ``Erik | :) |
| 13:30.22 | ``Erik | thinks the boy has been drinking the ms gametard koolaid too long :) |
| 13:31.27 | PrezzzKennedy | you're buying from a company that seriously charges $700 for 4GB of RAM and you're telling me im drinking kool-aid? |
| 13:31.48 | ``Erik | heh, ya don't buy the memory from apple, just the base machine |
| 13:32.13 | ``Erik | then ya slap macports on it, shove your own third party memory in, light up the nfs mounts, and go to town |
| 13:33.08 | PrezzzKennedy | what's macports? |
| 13:33.34 | ``Erik | package management system, unix style |
| 13:34.22 | ``Erik | similar in concept to the bsd ports collection, gentoos portage, debian/ubuntu apt |
| 13:34.29 | PrezzzKennedy | gotcha |
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| 13:35.22 | ``Erik | anyways, mac prices are on par with dell, gateway, compaq, etc if you don't approach things too naïvely, in my experience |
| 13:36.28 | ``Erik | like... not exploring third party ram (which is the big sticker from apple, they prey on companies with graphic weenies who need macs, lots of ram, and have no clue how to take the side panel off a mac pro) |
| 13:40.08 | ``Erik | but they don't play ALL the latest games, just most *shrug* so whatever makes ya happy |
| 13:40.24 | Maloeran | From what I have seen, Apple laptops sure are more expensive than Compaq and friends |
| 13:40.43 | ``Erik | pets his $700 ibook O.o |
| 13:40.47 | PrezzzKennedy | the 17" MacBook Pro is twice what I paid for my 17" Pavilion |
| 13:41.01 | PrezzzKennedy | its not twice as nice |
| 13:41.07 | Maloeran | Eheh |
| 13:42.30 | ``Erik | mebbe the winders ones have come down in price |
| 13:42.32 | ``Erik | specs one |
| 13:43.30 | PrezzzKennedy | the processor is a bit better and i think it has an LED screen... but it has the same video card and less memory |
| 13:43.32 | Maloeran | recently brought back 5 laptops from Canada to friends in Venezuela, computers cost 2.5x times as much there |
| 13:44.04 | Maloeran | I would have brought them from Miami but the Best Buy guy said there was a limit of one computer per customer per day for some reason |
| 13:44.24 | PrezzzKennedy | ouch |
| 13:44.55 | Maloeran | Fairly good laptops for ~700$ too |
| 13:45.35 | ``Erik | hrm, I'm crunching on dell trying to find a laptop with the same cpu performance as the crappy little ibook, found one much slower at $1624 |
| 13:46.03 | PrezzzKennedy | which model? |
| 13:46.15 | ``Erik | xps m1330 vs ibook 2.4 |
| 13:46.55 | ``Erik | ok, I found 3 with the same speed, but they all only come in 17" |
| 13:46.59 | Maloeran | Got a link handy for specs on ibook 2.4? Googling |
| 13:47.02 | ``Erik | are are over 2k |
| 13:47.11 | ``Erik | sec |
| 13:47.39 | ``Erik | http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html |
| 13:47.57 | ``Erik | oh, they call them macbook now instead of ibook... (used to be ibook and powerbook, now it's macbook and macbook pro) |
| 13:48.09 | ``Erik | I'm using old fogey terms :( |
| 13:48.22 | Axman6 | very old |
| 13:48.36 | ``Erik | shakes his cane at axman6 |
| 13:48.37 | Maloeran | Ah, that explains why I would not find anything :) |
| 13:49.08 | Maloeran | I don't know, seems fairly ordinary to me |
| 13:50.01 | Axman6 | they're good machines |
| 13:50.17 | Maloeran | The laptops I brought for 700$ seem about as good, except with screens of 15.4" |
| 13:50.29 | Axman6 | macbook pro's are even better. they're fantasitc. i've got a few friends wi8th dells craving a MBP |
| 13:51.13 | ``Erik | but do they have the ability to run WoW as well as a full unix suite? :) do they come with video and music editing software that linux cannot compete with yet? :D |
| 13:51.32 | Axman6 | the dells or the MBP? |
| 13:51.36 | ``Erik | was desperately looking for good open source video editing software, isn't finding any :/ |
| 13:51.48 | ``Erik | mal's laptops |
| 13:51.55 | Axman6 | because OS X is unix, with a native version of WoW... and it comes withiMovie for free ;) |
| 13:52.07 | ``Erik | and garage band |
| 13:52.12 | Axman6 | indeed |
| 13:52.41 | Maloeran | Ah, so MBPs com with a bunch of good and non-unix software, I see |
| 13:52.53 | ``Erik | comes with both, mal |
| 13:52.57 | Axman6 | not free, but iWork dominates office in many ways too. nothing out there beats Keynote |
| 13:52.59 | Maloeran | The hardware is not worth the price but I can not comment on the software |
| 13:53.05 | ``Erik | I do like keynote |
| 13:53.13 | poolio | ``Erik: go for the macbook :) Just keep it off your lap |
| 13:53.18 | Axman6 | the hardware is worth the price imo, it's just so high quality |
| 13:53.26 | Axman6 | there's more than specs to look at |
| 13:53.50 | Maloeran | More than the specs?... :) |
| 13:53.52 | ``Erik | heh, I usually put the laptop on my kitchen table... huge work area with a high precision mouse, picking the thing up is a thing of the past :D |
| 13:53.54 | Axman6 | much more |
| 13:54.21 | ``Erik | yeah, the hardware is solid and if it isn't, apple is usually really good about 'just making things right' |
| 13:54.23 | Axman6 | there's so much attention to detail |
| 13:54.24 | Maloeran | There are 14" laptops for 1000$ with better processors, 3 gb of ram, a real video chip |
| 13:54.26 | PrezzzKennedy | oh yeah i crave a macbook pro too |
| 13:54.32 | PrezzzKennedy | its just twice as expensive as im willing to pay |
| 13:54.54 | Axman6 | PrezzzKennedy: s'what paents are for... >_> |
| 13:54.56 | Axman6 | heh |
| 13:55.00 | Axman6 | parents* |
| 13:55.16 | PrezzzKennedy | ``Erik knows my dad I believe... |
| 13:55.36 | ``Erik | I like my mbp, but it is a bit pricey and more than I need for the near future |
| 13:56.06 | ``Erik | PrezzzKennedy's dad only bought a home computer fairly recently, despite working with them for many years before O.o he's too busy buying movies heh |
| 13:56.07 | Axman6 | mine was pretty pricy, especially considering you can now get a faster one, for $700 cheaper -_- |
| 13:56.18 | ``Erik | I think his goal is to completely pack a whole room with dvd's |
| 13:56.31 | Maloeran | Mmhm :) |
| 13:57.45 | ``Erik | $1299 vs $1999 for... an nvidia video and 2" display... I'll go with the cheap one, it'll do :) |
| 13:58.04 | Axman6 | and IMO, OS X is an excellent OS. i haven't managed to find an thing i needed to do that i couldn't on here |
| 13:58.04 | poolio | ``Erik: If you don't need the speed you can get a last-gen macbook for cheap |
| 13:58.37 | Maloeran | Just looking at the hardware, you can find better for 800-1000$. Of course, if you really wan the software and don't mind the extra cost... |
| 13:58.40 | ``Erik | hrm, is there an online place for those? that's how I got my ibook for 700, but I had to go to the store and ask if they had any left |
| 13:58.42 | PrezzzKennedy | my dad is using my brothers old laptop |
| 13:58.52 | PrezzzKennedy | which is my old laptop... 2 iterations back |
| 13:59.04 | PrezzzKennedy | and my mom is using my old PC |
| 13:59.34 | Axman6 | my mum's using our old 400MHz G3. runs Tiger just fine |
| 13:59.58 | ``Erik | <-- cheap... not quite kermit cheap, but cheap... bought his last laptop in '03, only computer since was the cheap linux minitower from walmart, running fbsd right now... :) |
| 14:00.27 | PrezzzKennedy | my mom was using a celeron 450 mhz |
| 14:00.39 | ``Erik | and the machine I'm running irc on, a friend was gonna throw it out, so I took it... pheer the p2 650mhz 128gb ram might! |
| 14:00.54 | andrecastelo | hey everyone, sorry to bother, but i'm having some issues compiling the code in windows (i was able to compile it before) - http://rafb.net/p/LiVNR651.html |
| 14:01.10 | Axman6 | ``Erik: pfft, that's nothing |
| 14:01.11 | Maloeran | scratches his head thinking how much he paid for his dual-quad-clovertown |
| 14:01.24 | PrezzzKennedy | ran windows 95 for like 10 years |
| 14:02.02 | ``Erik | andre: did you try to clean and re-build? |
| 14:02.10 | Axman6 | 'my router's a 133MHz, 32MB pentium with a 1GB HDD. running OpenBSD 4.2 (because i'm too lasy to uograde) |
| 14:02.27 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: ok, cleaning now |
| 14:02.31 | ``Erik | oh, I bet the new hyp.c wasn't added to your build |
| 14:02.44 | PrezzzKennedy | my router is a 233Mhz 16MB Asus running OpenWRT |
| 14:02.45 | ``Erik | g_hyp.c |
| 14:03.03 | ``Erik | and probably some new .c files in libged that haven't been added |
| 14:03.09 | andrecastelo | oh |
| 14:03.17 | Axman6 | PrezzzKennedy: waaayyy too many MHz :P |
| 14:03.21 | andrecastelo | i'll check the logs |
| 14:03.37 | PrezzzKennedy | it was an $80 router :) |
| 14:03.37 | ``Erik | did you make a miscwin32-msvc9\ copy? |
| 14:03.57 | andrecastelo | yeah, used the latest win32-msvc8 |
| 14:04.14 | Axman6 | mine was a $0 router :) |
| 14:04.22 | Axman6 | and i get to use pf, whooo |
| 14:04.27 | ``Erik | you should make a patch to add the new build dir so other people with msvc9 can benefit :) |
| 14:04.45 | ``Erik | once ya get the build working, that is |
| 14:05.16 | andrecastelo | ok, will do that :) |
| 14:06.40 | Axman6 | anyway, goodnight all |
| 14:06.46 | ``Erik | night, axman |
| 14:08.00 | ``Erik | andre: when .c files are added, we update the Makefile.am to reflect that, but we don't use msvc, so you're on your own to spot new .c files and add them... and since you're the only msvc9 user here, you're now the build maintainer for msvc9 :D congrats :> |
| 14:08.14 | PrezzzKennedy | night Axman6 |
| 14:09.07 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: the msvc9 converts from msvc8 format to the new one, so basically all i do is watch for modifications in the msvc8 build and update the msvc9.. |
| 14:09.47 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: one thing though - the latest .c additions to libged were all added to the msvc8 project, which i converted.. |
| 14:11.38 | ``Erik | hrm, does '__imp__' mean imported? it might be upset about librt not being build correctly? |
| 14:12.03 | ``Erik | rt_ and nmg_ all live in librt |
| 14:12.38 | andrecastelo | i guess if rt is fixed, libged will be built correctly |
| 14:13.07 | andrecastelo | but that's just a guess, the problem might be there too |
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| 14:14.00 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r31185 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/librt/librt.vcproj: let's see what we can break by adding g_hyp.c by hand... |
| 14:15.57 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: mmk, i'll try breaking stuff :) |
| 14:16.49 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r31186 10/brlcad/trunk/HACKING: add a couple directories to the layout information |
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| 15:05.45 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: got this.. http://rafb.net/p/pVfOmB11.html |
| 15:09.58 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: ok, managed to fix and librt built correctly |
| 15:13.46 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: http://rafb.net/p/PK8mUw86.html .. is everything correct? |
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| 18:33.13 | poolio | brlcad: I just read through doc/brep.txt ...yikes |
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| 18:42.19 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31188 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_anim.c: Added better checking of argc/argv to db_parse_1anim(). |
| 18:57.34 | ``Erik | heh, looks like bob beat ya to it, andre :D but yes, the code looks correct to me from a casual glance |
| 18:58.00 | ``Erik | the one thing I'd be concerned about is the shadow declaration of segp that's being removed, I'd have to look closer to see if it's an issue |
| 18:58.09 | ``Erik | basically, um, |
| 18:59.23 | ``Erik | int i = 42; { int i = 13; printf ("%d\n", i); } printf("%d\n", i); |
| 18:59.35 | ``Erik | will print "13\n42" |
| 18:59.47 | poolio | \n :) |
| 19:00.22 | ``Erik | <-- writes "smack ben upside the head" on a postit note and sticks it to his monitor |
| 19:00.26 | ``Erik | when ya getting here again? :D |
| 19:01.08 | poolio | I dunno, I'm set up and ready to go whenever brlcad feels the urge to drag me in :) I'm in no rush to waste that much gas |
| 19:06.55 | poolio | brlcad: so, would you like me to come in this weke or is this the week you're away? |
| 19:23.25 | PrezKennedy | you can see their awesome WWIII building |
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| 19:34.15 | ``Erik | meditates, levitates and waits |
| 19:34.51 | poolio | PrezKennedy: WWIII? |
| 19:35.06 | ``Erik | is that nintendos next console? |
| 19:35.35 | poolio | yuk yuk. |
| 19:35.52 | PrezKennedy | no its those huts you guys work in |
| 19:36.19 | PrezKennedy | unless those have since blown away... |
| 19:36.39 | ``Erik | in the words of the wise sage wooldoor sockbat... WWEEEEEEE |
| 19:36.59 | ``Erik | hey, they're still standing, it's been a while since anyone has sneezed |
| 19:41.46 | ``Erik | what a name, "semen semenov" |
| 19:53.18 | brlcad | poolio: wow.. i'd completely forgotten about brep.txt ..... |
| 19:53.45 | brlcad | next week is the week i'm away |
| 19:54.10 | brlcad | i'll certainly be on-line though, that should be a great week of coding |
| 19:54.17 | brlcad | conferences are usually great for coding |
| 19:54.42 | ``Erik | which conf is it? |
| 19:59.08 | poolio | brlcad: so would you like me to come up this week or can I continue being a bum at home :) |
| 19:59.27 | brlcad | ``Erik: solid modeling |
| 20:00.12 | brlcad | technically ACM SPM and IEEE SMI joint conf., real small conference but directly relevant |
| 20:00.18 | brlcad | only in the US every couple years |
| 20:02.01 | poolio | Where is it? |
| 20:03.17 | brlcad | up in NY this year |
| 20:07.17 | poolio | Ah, that's no fun. They should hold it in some place exotic |
| 20:08.57 | ``Erik | wasn't it in nyc like two years ago? |
| 20:10.07 | brlcad | boston |
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| 20:10.14 | brlcad | at mit |
| 20:10.28 | ``Erik | oh, I thought siggraph was in boston, guess they both were *shrug* :) |
| 20:10.30 | brlcad | before that it was in japan, then before that in england |
| 20:10.41 | brlcad | *those* I shoulda submitted a paper! |
| 20:10.44 | cazpa | Hello |
| 20:10.50 | brlcad | howdy cazpa |
| 20:10.53 | cazpa | not to bad |
| 20:11.28 | cazpa | just saw what brl-cad |
| 20:11.32 | cazpa | about to give it a try |
| 20:11.34 | cazpa | :D |
| 20:11.46 | brlcad | poolio: they do .. but getting oconus travel approved is hell |
| 20:12.09 | brlcad | have to have a damn good reason like presenting a good paper |
| 20:12.21 | brlcad | cazpa: excellent, have fun |
| 20:12.30 | brlcad | there are tutorials on the website, consider them required reading |
| 20:12.32 | cazpa | will do |
| 20:12.37 | cazpa | i will do |
| 20:12.42 | cazpa | im new to solid moderling |
| 20:12.46 | brlcad | big learning curve, but big payoff as you learn |
| 20:13.12 | brlcad | last year solid modeling was in beijing |
| 20:13.13 | cazpa | but i am a mechanical engineer |
| 20:14.26 | cazpa | so hello all |
| 20:17.37 | cazpa | is brl hard to use? |
| 20:22.35 | brlcad | it's hard to learn |
| 20:22.47 | brlcad | but otherwise, no, it's not really hard to use for many purposes |
| 20:23.04 | brlcad | (some things are *really* easy, some are hard, it's a big package) |
| 20:23.49 | cazpa | starts to read the documents |
| 20:24.13 | cazpa | im only looking to use it for simple solid moderling |
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| 20:29.55 | cadguy | http://www.brlcad.org doesn't go anyplace useful anymore |
| 20:30.10 | cadguy | ~cadsrc |
| 20:34.17 | PrezKennedy | do it without the www |
| 20:38.07 | cadguy | yes. I just thought it ought to work *with* the www as well. |
| 20:38.18 | brlcad | ah, responder wasn't set up after migration -- should be better now |
| 20:39.52 | ``Erik | prefix? we don' need no stinkin' prefix |
| 20:43.54 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31189 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/ (Makefile.am dirent.c uce-dirent.h): Use uce-dirent to provide cross platform dirent functionality. |
| 20:44.18 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31190 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: Add dirent.c functions to bu.h |
| 20:45.10 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31191 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/ (nirt.c nirt.h): Add preliminary code in support of -L option for listing available report formats. |
| 20:45.23 | ``Erik | nooooooo |
| 20:45.31 | ``Erik | watches everything rebuild because bu.h got mucked with |
| 20:50.00 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r31192 10/brlcad/trunk/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Added arced to libged. |
| 20:56.36 | andrecastelo | hey good evening everyone |
| 20:57.44 | ``Erik | wb, andre |
| 20:57.48 | ``Erik | and congrats! |
| 20:58.01 | andrecastelo | hehehe thanks |
| 20:58.03 | andrecastelo | but congrats on what ? |
| 20:58.09 | ``Erik | got a few minutes? I want to work with you for the first couple commits you do :D |
| 20:58.27 | andrecastelo | yup, i'm pretty free |
| 20:58.51 | ``Erik | ok, lets add you to the AUTHORS file first, at the end of the 'code contribution' section |
| 20:59.26 | ``Erik | go ahead and add yourself and commit it |
| 20:59.44 | andrecastelo | great, will do :) |
| 21:03.23 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03andrecastelo * r31193 10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: Added André Castelo to the Code Contributions list. |
| 21:03.37 | andrecastelo | great success! :D |
| 21:03.40 | pacman87 | congrats |
| 21:04.02 | ``Erik | ok, looks good, now lets try something a little trickier :D do you have access to a non-windows machine? |
| 21:04.30 | andrecastelo | i have a debian distribution installed |
| 21:04.39 | ``Erik | dual boot, or seperate machine? |
| 21:04.41 | andrecastelo | pacman87: thanks :) |
| 21:04.45 | andrecastelo | dual boot |
| 21:05.01 | ``Erik | ok, uhm, I guess we can do this as a two step process |
| 21:05.29 | andrecastelo | hm, ok, what do you have in mind ? |
| 21:05.55 | ``Erik | commit your misc/win32-msvc9 stuff :D you'll need to edit misc/Makefile.am and configure.ac to add the dirs (and test to make sure you didn't mess up the auto* stuff) |
| 21:06.43 | ``Erik | why, yes, going from the most simple operation you'll do to the most complex just like that, I AM quite evil :D |
| 21:07.26 | andrecastelo | okay |
| 21:09.28 | brlcad | woohoo, congratulations andrecastelo |
| 21:11.03 | ``Erik | btw... after this, if you ever create a directory without brlcad's explicit permission, we'll take turns breaking your fingers :D |
| 21:11.46 | ``Erik | <-- only brave enough to create dir's in src/adrt/ |
| 21:12.01 | andrecastelo | thanks, brlcad :D |
| 21:12.53 | andrecastelo | ``Erik: ok, understood :) |
| 21:13.43 | andrecastelo | do the debian's autoconf and automake tools represent any problem for me to test the modifications ? |
| 21:14.03 | ``Erik | uhmmmm, debians libtool does |
| 21:14.18 | brlcad | notes pacman87 should add himself too |
| 21:14.25 | brlcad | i fixed it |
| 21:14.36 | brlcad | debian compile should work just fine now |
| 21:14.49 | ``Erik | explicitely adding libtcl.la to the necessary links? |
| 21:15.02 | cadguy | q |
| 21:15.17 | brlcad | nope, hack added to m4/patch.m4 |
| 21:15.37 | ``Erik | oh, cool, so the am's are still clean |
| 21:15.46 | brlcad | fixes the libtool script, turns off the link_all_deplibs stupidity |
| 21:16.02 | ``Erik | what should we do about the -w in toplevel Makefile.am? |
| 21:16.07 | brlcad | rather turns it on, instead of off |
| 21:17.04 | andrecastelo | ok, switching to debian |
| 21:17.09 | andrecastelo | brb |
| 21:23.25 | brlcad | yay, patches from dawn |
| 21:33.02 | ``Erik | :o someone commited as root in '86 |
| 21:34.54 | PrezKennedy | :o someone noticed |
| 21:35.47 | ``Erik | svn log . | grep '^r[0-9]' | awk '{print $3}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr |
| 21:35.48 | ``Erik | pheer. |
| 21:38.02 | PrezKennedy | shutdown now |
| 21:38.07 | PrezKennedy | real power in that command |
| 21:38.08 | PrezKennedy | mwahaha |
| 21:38.15 | ``Erik | deltree \y c:\*.* |
| 21:38.19 | ``Erik | erm, /y |
| 21:40.29 | PrezKennedy | print "Farewell files" | rm -rf /* |
| 21:40.34 | PrezKennedy | :) |
| 21:40.40 | PrezKennedy | as root of course |
| 21:40.53 | ``Erik | hehehe, I was about to su nobody :D |
| 21:41.43 | PrezKennedy | I did use Linux there for awhile, so I'm not totally hopeless. |
| 21:42.27 | ``Erik | but... you used linux... so you are hopeless ;) *duck* |
| 21:45.00 | PrezKennedy | has an apple for snacktime and runs |
| 21:45.51 | ``Erik | noms an mbp |
| 21:46.55 | PrezKennedy | seems like a valid warning to put on their boxes... |
| 21:47.04 | PrezKennedy | "Warning: Do not eat" |
| 21:47.25 | ``Erik | warning: causes excessive awesomeness on skin contact, do not consume |
| 21:47.41 | ``Erik | </fanboy> :D |
| 21:53.17 | ``Erik | wanders home |
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| 21:58.20 | andrecastelo | hey ``Erik.. turns out it's going to take a little more time - i didn't configure the distro to mount the ntfs drives |
| 22:05.27 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31194 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/sfiles/ (csv-gap.nrt csv.nrt default.nrt gap1.nrt gap2.nrt): Tweak sfiles for nirt |
| 22:08.05 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31195 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/nirt.c: Add very crude listing ability - shouldn't be using fixed numerical lengths... |
| 22:11.53 | CIA-21 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r31196 10/brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/nirt.c: Whoops - use bu_vls_free for vls structs |
| 22:42.35 | ``Erik | 'sok, andre, brlcad wants to roll a tarball tonight, so it might be better to hold off until tomorrow or day after |