| 01:34.17 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * r30947 10/brlcad/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:34.17 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: Added support for a variable length byte buffer (bu_vlb). Similar to bu_vls, |
| 01:34.17 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: but not string based (null byte is not special). Anticipated use in librtserver |
| 01:34.17 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: which is scheduled to change its Java return to a simple byte array. |
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| 02:42.36 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30948 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Add options to override the 'd' flag values, in order to have floating point dimensions as input. |
| 02:53.11 | starseeker_ | weird |
| 02:53.31 | starseeker_ | suddenly doesn't get raytraced output of tire, even though it was working before dinner... |
| 02:53.55 | starseeker_ | wireframe's there... |
| 02:54.28 | starseeker_ | decides sleep is in order first, and kicks off a couple fresh builds. |
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| 05:38.15 | yukonbob | evening, cadheads |
| 05:42.40 | pacman87 | hi yukonbob |
| 05:57.34 | yukonbob | what's happening, pacman87 ? |
| 05:57.48 | pacman87 | last week of school |
| 05:57.55 | pacman87 | all the projects are due :( |
| 05:58.17 | pacman87 | finals week is easy compared to this |
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| 06:22.15 | yukonbob | :P -- good luck w/ it all, pacman87 |
| 06:23.20 | pacman87 | thanks. i plan on cranking out some more code this weekend when it's all over and i finally have some time |
| 06:25.34 | yukonbob | very nice |
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| 09:20.58 | BeerSerc_ | hi there. sourceforge is down, whereelse can I get a copy of the amd64 linux binary or source? |
| 09:32.54 | kwizart | BeerSerc_, which distrib ? |
| 10:24.39 | BeerSerc_ | kwizart: gentoo |
| 10:25.14 | kwizart | arf! at least i have a src.rpm where you might take the source from (with some patches) |
| 10:25.41 | kwizart | http://rpms.kwizart.net/fedora/development/SRPMS/brlcad-7.12.2-1.fc9.kwizart.src.rpm |
| 10:26.48 | BeerSerc_ | thank you, I'll try |
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| 10:27.05 | mafm | howdy |
| 10:27.47 | kwizart | BeerSerc_, for the record, do you have a librt.so.1 in /lib64 on your system ? |
| 10:28.56 | mafm | still with problems creating the package kwizart? :) |
| 10:29.21 | kwizart | well, no the package works... but i guess there is still some minors things to fix |
| 10:29.28 | BeerSerc | kwizart: Yes I have |
| 10:29.53 | kwizart | at least I need to see how to deal with glibc librt.so.1 in linux system |
| 10:30.19 | kwizart | and eventully split the package between differents composents... |
| 10:30.25 | kwizart | components |
| 10:31.20 | kwizart | for example, if some files might only be needed on server side for collaborative works... and others needed for workstation side |
| 10:31.34 | kwizart | i don't know brlcad well enought to sort this for now |
| 10:38.35 | BeerSerc | kwizart: I just noticed that there is an ebuild for 7.12 in gentoo's science overlay, so installing it should not be too difficult |
| 10:39.34 | kwizart | BeerSerc, yep... i don't know how they deal with that problem thought... |
| 10:39.50 | kwizart | maybe they still use rpathes |
| 10:40.19 | BeerSerc | which problem is that exactly? I read something about glibc files, but in gentoos bugtracker, there are no bugs related to the 7.12 ebuild at all |
| 10:40.40 | kwizart | that's not a problem specific with 7.12 |
| 10:41.34 | kwizart | i would like to see this ebuild...if there is some patches from their side |
| 10:42.22 | BeerSerc | http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=149864 |
| 10:42.28 | BeerSerc | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77197 |
| 10:47.14 | BeerSerc | ah i found a working sourceforge mirror... so I can use the tar.bz2 ting |
| 10:47.20 | BeerSerc | s/ting/thing/ |
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| 10:51.33 | kwizart | rm librtserver.so |
| 10:51.33 | kwizart | ln -s librt.so.19.0.1 librtserver.so |
| 10:57.04 | kwizart | they build tcl/tk internally ? strange for a gentoo ebuild... |
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| 11:35.27 | brlcad | kwizart: bbiaw to help .. |
| 11:39.51 | brlcad | kwizart: the ebuild doesn't need to use tcl/tk internally, but there is still an issue with itcl/itck from portage iirc (and compiling them out of sync makes the build very unhappy) |
| 11:40.03 | brlcad | wanders off for a bit |
| 11:40.08 | kwizart | ok |
| 11:44.39 | BeerSerc | time for a total noobish question: How can I start brlcad? there is nothing looking like a main binary in /usr/brlcad/bin... |
| 11:51.03 | kwizart | mged ? |
| 11:52.05 | BeerSerc | ah OK. thx |
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| 12:24.17 | louipc | heck sourceforge is down? |
| 12:24.24 | alex_joni | yup |
| 12:24.49 | louipc | heh it always seems like it just when I need to use the damn site |
| 12:25.20 | alex_joni | louipc: maybe it's just all the time, and you only notice it when you need it :)) |
| 12:25.29 | louipc | haha |
| 12:26.07 | alex_joni | google gives 450.000 results for "sourceforge down" |
| 12:26.26 | louipc | http://pastebin.ca/1002814 |
| 12:26.30 | louipc | anyways I'll stick that there |
| 12:26.46 | louipc | don't know if that's been encountered yet or not |
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| 12:46.35 | andrecastelo | good morning everyone |
| 12:50.42 | clock_ | alex_joni: now you have to read through all of them, otherwise people tell you STFW or UTFG |
| 12:51.04 | alex_joni | clock_: sorry? |
| 12:51.33 | clock_ | alex_joni: sarcastic about the STFW acronym |
| 12:51.52 | alex_joni | did I say that? |
| 12:54.23 | alex_joni | clock_: I usually try to keep it more polite (like GIYF :) |
| 12:57.57 | mafm | hi andrecastelo |
| 12:58.43 | louipc | hah I don't know what any of those mean |
| 13:02.54 | clock_ | AATNKWIM |
| 13:03.04 | clock_ | An Acronym That Noone Knows What It Means |
| 13:03.51 | mafm | louipc: that's funny, because in that case is perfectly applicable to you :) |
| 13:05.19 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30949 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Whoopsie, tire thickness needs dztred to be calculated first. |
| 13:19.45 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30950 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (tire.1 tire.c): Add docs for options to specify just width, ratio, or wheel diameter. |
| 13:21.02 | louipc | bwhahah |
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| 14:05.17 | brlcad | sf doesn't seem to be down now |
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| 14:12.55 | brlcad | d_rossberg: how critical are those tcl changes? i fear they'll just get clobbered the next time tcl is updated |
| 14:13.02 | brlcad | (e.g. tcl 8.5.2 is out) |
| 14:13.36 | brlcad | and/or more importantly is there a way to work-around it that doesn't require a mod to tcl |
| 14:19.03 | d_rossberg | brlcad: don't care about this change |
| 14:19.31 | d_rossberg | if you have a new tcl version put it into the repository |
| 14:19.53 | brlcad | i don't plan to anytime soon, there's no pressing need |
| 14:20.21 | d_rossberg | if it's a problem for me i'll look after after it |
| 14:20.22 | brlcad | but just saying that someone might replace it on a whim just for the sake of upgrading (erik has that tendancy) .. didn't know if that'll break the cmake build or something |
| 14:20.29 | brlcad | okay |
| 14:21.37 | d_rossberg | the whole tcl thing is "experimental" for me :) |
| 14:22.23 | brlcad | heh |
| 14:23.55 | brlcad | hrm, anyone recall the name of the apache load testing tool? stfw isn't helping much |
| 14:26.33 | starseeker_ | jmeter? |
| 14:26.54 | starseeker_ | or apache bench? |
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| 14:28.57 | archivist | ab |
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| 14:37.04 | archivist | I couldnt get the full list of bench test tools, the bot is dead in #apache at the moment |
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| 16:47.08 | mafm | bye |
| 17:07.20 | louipc | ahmm |
| 17:14.16 | ``Erik | SILENCE! |
| 17:19.43 | archivist | stop shouting Im trying to sleep |
| 17:34.05 | ``Erik | oh, ok |
| 17:34.14 | ``Erik | grabs a metal trash can lid and starts banging it |
| 17:34.15 | ``Erik | :D |
| 17:34.41 | archivist | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 18:14.21 | ``Erik | thinks he spots starsuckers odd tcl link bug O.o |
| 18:14.47 | ``Erik | pretends it's a cheezburger and stalks |
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| 22:59.46 | starseeker_ | Ah HAH - http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m532f157a |
| 23:00.01 | starseeker_ | or more specifically, libtcl8.5.so => /usr/brlcad/lib/libtcl8.5.so (0xb7799000) |
| 23:00.15 | brlcad | bingo |
| 23:00.16 | starseeker_ | bad BRL-CAD, no system libtcl for you... |
| 23:00.33 | starseeker_ | now, where are you going wrong... |
| 23:00.41 | brlcad | didn't you say it was an --enable-all ? |
| 23:00.45 | starseeker_ | yep |
| 23:00.54 | brlcad | does config.log confirm that? |
| 23:01.12 | starseeker_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.14 | brlcad | (header at the beginning and summary at the end) |
| 23:01.44 | brlcad | oh, wait |
| 23:01.52 | brlcad | you did an ldd on an uninstalled .so |
| 23:02.00 | brlcad | that's not right |
| 23:02.09 | brlcad | you can't do that (and expect correct answers) |
| 23:02.13 | starseeker_ | grr |
| 23:02.24 | brlcad | that's why the binaries run through scripts |
| 23:02.32 | brlcad | those scripts set up the ld library paths |
| 23:02.46 | brlcad | iff you want to run the binary prior to install |
| 23:03.07 | brlcad | if you want to know the true ldd before install, you have to add it to the script |
| 23:03.21 | brlcad | e.g. to src/mged/mged near the bottom before the exec |
| 23:04.18 | starseeker_ | but the compile doesn't get that far... |
| 23:04.44 | brlcad | ah, right failing at comb? |
| 23:04.49 | starseeker_ | yep |
| 23:04.57 | brlcad | then it just amounts to what's on the compile line |
| 23:05.05 | brlcad | add that flag I mentioned to turn on verbose |
| 23:05.12 | brlcad | get the real gcc line |
| 23:05.16 | starseeker_ | --debug ? |
| 23:05.18 | starseeker_ | one sec... |
| 23:05.29 | brlcad | or copy/paste the libtool line and remove the silent option |
| 23:05.38 | starseeker_ | did that, actually... |
| 23:05.48 | starseeker_ | pastebin coming up... |
| 23:06.11 | brlcad | pastebin's getting a fair bit of spam .. someone(tm) needs to turn on recaptcha for it |
| 23:06.19 | starseeker_ | http://pastebin.bzflag.bz/m61107cd0 |
| 23:06.37 | starseeker_ | are we spamming the bzflag irc channel by using it? |
| 23:06.53 | starseeker_ | doubts most bzflag hackers care about brlcad... |
| 23:07.36 | brlcad | presumably there is a libtcl8.5.so in /home/cyapp/cadtoplevel/brlcad/brlcad-build/src/other/tcl/unix ? |
| 23:07.48 | brlcad | no, it's fine to use |
| 23:08.00 | starseeker_ | yes, it's there |
| 23:08.02 | brlcad | I could just as easily make that pastebin.brlcad.org |
| 23:08.10 | brlcad | it's not a symlink to nothing? |
| 23:08.16 | brlcad | it's an actual lib |
| 23:08.27 | starseeker_ | yes, seems to be |
| 23:08.40 | brlcad | then the next step is to check the lib for that symbol using nm |
| 23:09.16 | starseeker_ | goes to find out what nm is... |
| 23:09.19 | brlcad | if it's in there, then you gotta take gcc/ld into a lower level debug mode; if it's not in there, you have to look into tcl's build to find out if it's supposed to be |
| 23:10.41 | yukonbob | waves in |
| 23:10.47 | starseeker_ | I'm looking for libtcl with nm in librt.so? |
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| 23:11.33 | brlcad | nope |
| 23:11.38 | starseeker_ | Is the presence of -ltcl8.5 harmless? |
| 23:11.52 | brlcad | you're looking at the symbols in libtcl8.5.so |
| 23:11.56 | starseeker_ | ah |
| 23:12.10 | brlcad | is the symbol it's failing on actually in that library |
| 23:12.50 | starseeker_ | 00023590 t TclReFree |
| 23:13.41 | brlcad | out of curiostiy, if you move/delete /usr/brlcad/* does it still fail? |
| 23:14.07 | starseeker_ | yep |
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| 23:44.52 | starseeker_ | is out of his depth here... |