| 00:02.39 | yukonbob | waves in |
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| 01:09.03 | DevJock | Hello, this is my first time using IRC, please forgive me if I do something stupid. |
| 01:53.17 | starseeker_home | DevJock: welcome |
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| 02:27.26 | DevJock | Has anyone considered making the source code available in a .7z instead of a .zip format? The file size is way smaller. |
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| 02:42.37 | brlcad | hello DevJock |
| 02:43.02 | CIA-12 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r30734 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/tire.c: Rotation looks OK now, but primitives in tread pattern look off - may have sizing wrong. |
| 02:43.07 | brlcad | DevJock: no, I don't think anyone has ever cared much about the format :) |
| 02:43.20 | starseeker_home | plays whack-a-bug |
| 02:43.25 | brlcad | zip is really to appease ignorant windows users that are only familiar with zip |
| 02:44.30 | starseeker_home | is also glad in retrospect he tried a simple tread pattern before trying a complex (real) pattern |
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| 02:48.33 | brlcad | hey pacman87 |
| 02:48.35 | pacman87 | hi |
| 03:00.02 | starseeker_home | brlcad: I'm getting some wireframe behavior I don't quite understand: http://my.bzflag.bz/~starseeker/primitive-oddity.png |
| 03:00.42 | starseeker_home | brlcad: It's quite possible I have the dimensions wrong, but in that case shouldn't both the wireframe and the raytrace be off? |
| 03:01.45 | DevJock | Hi brlcad, I'm using Bersirc IRC and it's nice to talk to you guys |
| 03:05.27 | brlcad | starseeker_home: i'm not sure what I"m looking at in the screenshot |
| 03:05.50 | brlcad | are those arbs? |
| 03:06.19 | brlcad | the black would normally be invalid -- looks like something twisted inside out |
| 03:06.51 | brlcad | otherwise that's a pretty harsh change in normal.. |
| 03:07.28 | brlcad | DevJock: welcome, hope you hang .. irc is more a lifestyle than an activity ;) |
| 03:10.17 | starseeker_home | yes - arbs |
| 03:10.39 | brlcad | my first guess would be that they're twisted or inverted |
| 03:10.42 | starseeker_home | It should be a fairly garden variety arb8 |
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| 03:10.43 | starseeker_home | OK |
| 03:11.10 | starseeker_home | will re-examine how the arbs are drawn - thanks |
| 03:16.22 | brlcad | they'll still draw the wireframe if a face is twisted, but the normals and hits will be screwy |
| 03:18.14 | yukonbob | evening, geeks :) |
| 03:18.57 | pacman87 | we're not cadheads anymore? |
| 03:20.07 | yukonbob | evening cadheads |
| 03:20.23 | yukonbob | how's it going pacman87 :) |
| 03:21.16 | yukonbob | reviewed links after he found out our own clock was involved w/ the development, but it's page navigation is still t3h sux0rs compared to w3m |
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| 03:38.43 | DevJock | I was told that some of the developers use an IDE to work on the source code. Could you guys specify one. I was trying to set up a Code::Blocks project to compile the code, but you weren't kidding about a million lines of code, and I have no idea how to get the Java files to compile. I'm a spoiled windows user with 6 years of C++ development experience in a Visual Studio environment. Any help, advice would be appreciated. |
| 03:43.19 | CIA-12 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30735 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/ (. Makefile.am): ignore and clean up after ylwrap |
| 03:45.17 | brlcad | howdy yukonbob |
| 03:45.37 | brlcad | DevJock: ah, you are the guy from the forum then |
| 03:46.00 | brlcad | the java files are technically optional, you can conceivably ignore them |
| 03:49.01 | DevJock | <brlcad>: yup, that's me from the forum, okay then, I'll ignore the java files for now and just see about getting all the c files into Code::Blocks. Thanks. |
| 03:51.07 | brlcad | sounds good, look forward to hearing how it goes |
| 03:52.11 | brlcad | DevJock: there are also MSVC build files if you still prefer windows ;) |
| 03:52.29 | brlcad | the windows build of brl-cad could also use lots of love |
| 03:56.53 | DevJock | <brlcad>: Well Code::Blocks is supposed to be a cross platform IDE, so I guess if I could get that to work it really would be useful not just to windows users. |
| 03:58.56 | yukonbob | looks-up Code::Blocks |
| 04:00.07 | CIA-12 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30736 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/jove/jove.h: string.h needs to take priority, remove the HAVE_STRINGS_H check |
| 04:14.30 | CIA-12 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30737 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/jove/jove.h: no longer need common.h with HAVE_STRINGS_H removed |
| 04:16.28 | CIA-12 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30738 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/jove/jove.h: oops, revert .. we do still need it elsewhere |
| 04:17.58 | DevJock | Well I was sure was optimistic, I added all the c and h files to my BRL-CAD code project. Attempting to build the code produced alot of errors, the first being "\brlcad-7.12.0\src\adrt\bench\bench.c|28|pthread.h: No such file or directory|". I assume from this wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX_Threads that I will need the pthreads-w32 for windows in order to get rid of this error? |
| 04:19.03 | brlcad | src/adrt hasn't been ported to work on windows |
| 04:21.10 | DevJock | <brlcad>: I assume that I can make like the Java files and for now remove this directory from my project? |
| 04:21.23 | brlcad | should be able to |
| 04:21.51 | brlcad | src/librtserver src/adrt src/external and probably src/other can/should be ignored/removed |
| 04:23.03 | brlcad | that's a lot of slashes |
| 04:23.33 | DevJock | brlcad: Thank you, I will be logging out now and spending a little quality time with this. |
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| 14:49.05 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30739 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/Makefile.am: include wdb_deps for the debianeers. for whatever reason, it's still dropping the deps on the cxx target |
| 15:08.52 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30740 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tab/Makefile.am: eep, make sure script.c isn't a BUILT_SOURCES files if we don't have a lexer |
| 15:09.58 | yukonbob | morning cadheads |
| 15:33.58 | brlcad | morning cadtails |
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| 16:04.44 | yukonbob | heh |
| 16:05.01 | yukonbob | "cdr"'s? |
| 16:12.40 | hippieindamakin8 | hey yukonbob |
| 16:12.57 | hippieindamakin8 | good afternoon |
| 16:16.56 | yukonbob | morning hippieindamakin8 |
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| 16:27.21 | hippieindamakin8 | are u from canada ? |
| 16:27.32 | hippieindamakin8 | Alberta ? |
| 16:28.32 | yukonbob | yes, Canada, but not Alberta |
| 16:28.40 | yukonbob | ?Why would you guess Albera |
| 16:28.46 | yukonbob | *Alberta |
| 16:29.13 | hippieindamakin8 | :P DNS look up says alberta :P |
| 16:29.39 | yukonbob | paste your lookup to a pastebin |
| 16:29.43 | hippieindamakin8 | just wanted ur timezone to wish u :) |
| 16:30.44 | hippieindamakin8 | http://dpaste.com/45813/ |
| 16:31.59 | hippieindamakin8 | shall get back to studies :P |
| 16:32.48 | yukonbob | I think you looked up the info for the ISP, not me |
| 16:34.10 | hippieindamakin8 | ya :) |
| 16:34.32 | yukonbob | my ass in in Yukon Territory, but the computer I'm networked to (and running my IRC client from) is in British Columbia |
| 16:35.14 | hippieindamakin8 | :)) |
| 16:36.32 | yukonbob | utc -7 |
| 16:38.18 | hippieindamakin8 | utc +5:30 or +4:30 durin light saving |
| 16:38.30 | hippieindamakin8 | yeah yukonbob are u good at splines ? |
| 16:38.38 | hippieindamakin8 | i meant the math |
| 16:40.26 | yukonbob | hippieindamakin8: honestly, I don't know -- I'm not a gfx/cad person when it comes to under-the-hood implementation |
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| 16:42.51 | hippieindamakin8 | ohh :) was looking for some texts and reference material for the proofs of the spines and Peano's theorem |
| 16:44.21 | yukonbob | post a question and see what happends, brlcad, ``Erik, and other smart people are monitoring this channel -- maybe repost when you see pacman come back... |
| 16:44.47 | yukonbob | s/see what happens,/see what happens;/ |
| 16:45.09 | hippieindamakin8 | Prove Peano's theorem |
| 16:45.11 | hippieindamakin8 | :) |
| 16:45.32 | hippieindamakin8 | till then i ll give it a try by myself |
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| 17:17.34 | andrecastelo | good afternoon everyone :D |
| 17:23.33 | brlcad | howdy andre |
| 17:23.52 | brlcad | probably quite a long weekend for a lot of folks.. |
| 17:29.22 | andrecastelo | indeed, i'm quite anxious, can't wait for monday. |
| 17:34.48 | andrecastelo | brlcad: did you look at the code?? :D |
| 17:35.31 | andrecastelo | (for the patch) |
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| 18:20.00 | *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad || Channel logs at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || BRL-CAD is participating in the 2008 Google Summer of Code, see http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code || GSoC student selections will be announced on Monday the 21st |
| 19:01.19 | brlcad | has a fix for debian working |
| 19:56.27 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30741 10/brlcad/trunk/m4/patch.m4: (log message trimmed) |
| 19:56.27 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: This should finally (re)fix the Debian and Ubuntu builds. The problem boils down to the Debian devs insisting on modifying default upstream libtool linkage behavior. They |
| 19:56.27 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: do this for performance/relinkage reasons so that rebuilding and installing a base library (like libpng) doesn't necessarily require relinking all callers. They force |
| 19:56.28 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: *off* the addition of dependency libraries on the linker line by setting link_all_deplibs=no which in turn mucks havok with compilation. Their intent seems to assume that |
| 19:56.31 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: all libs are installed before a binary needs to link against them so that recursive linux dynamic link lookups will find everything needed via rpaths alone. So all of the |
| 19:56.34 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: dependencies listed on our (not-yet-installed) libtool archive libraries are stripped off when binaries are linked. |
| 19:56.37 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: This fix reverts the libtool script back to the default "unknown" value for link_all_deplibs. So libtool does properly keep track of the recursive dependency descriptions |
| 19:56.43 | brlcad | stupid nano |
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| 20:49.05 | yukonbob | brlcad: "stupid" debian -- is this libtool shenanigan documented? It seems to have taken a while to figure it out... |
| 21:03.13 | brlcad | yukonbob: actually it didn't take long at all - I just don't use debian, rarely have access to one |
| 21:03.19 | brlcad | happened to have access to one today |
| 21:03.45 | brlcad | but yes, there are at least three debian bug reports that relate to it |
| 21:05.11 | brlcad | alas, there are few big packages that build both libs and bins that utilize LIBADD dependencies |
| 21:13.21 | CIA-20 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30742 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Bob added xclone command to mged for xpushed deep copies. scripted implementation, performs xpush then clone. |
| 21:29.01 | yukonbob | brlcad: bugs like that remind me of the jwz quote: "Browser compatibility problems are nature's way of saying 'stop trying to be so fuckin clever'" |
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