| 00:19.19 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30398 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/unix/Makefile.in: reapply the patch that installs libtcl.so and libtclstub.so, and conditionally installs the manual pages. |
| 00:20.14 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30399 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/Makefile.in: reapply the patch that installs libtk.so and libtkstub.so, and conditionally installs the manual pages. |
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| 03:05.44 | starseeker | Shucks - mythbusters re-busted the Archimedes death ray |
| 03:07.51 | Axman6 | good call |
| 03:08.12 | starseeker | Axman6: What, the rebusting? |
| 03:08.23 | Axman6 | using BRL- |
| 03:08.26 | Axman6 | CAD* |
| 03:08.27 | starseeker | Ah |
| 03:08.30 | starseeker | :-) |
| 03:09.28 | starseeker | Well, it would be an excuse to model a Roman ship... |
| 03:12.31 | louipc | yarrr |
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| 03:14.22 | yukonbob | ninjas operating archimedes deathray vs. a pirate ship (full of pirates, or course) -- two birds with one stone... |
| 03:14.30 | starseeker | In theory, it might actually be really simple to test a death ray setup if you know the properties of the mirrors |
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| 04:36.55 | brlcad | Maloeran: *ping* |
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| 05:52.16 | brlcad | is it possible to compile maxima without Tk ? |
| 05:52.43 | brlcad | the port seems hard-wired to tk84 |
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| 11:33.25 | starseeker | brlcad: Hmm. I think there is a "lisp-only" compile option that could avoid tk. tk should be needed only for xmaxima, so maybe disabling that... |
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| 11:34.07 | starseeker | brlcad: Which lisp are you building with? GCL might make the tk thing more difficult - I seem to recall they have their own bindings... |
| 11:34.19 | starseeker | I recommend sbcl if it's available. |
| 12:55.35 | brlcad | sbcl |
| 12:55.44 | starseeker | steel bank common lisp |
| 12:56.04 | starseeker | Maxima can be built with any of several lisp implementations as a foundation |
| 12:57.30 | brlcad | had four different options |
| 12:57.33 | brlcad | that installed okay |
| 12:57.47 | brlcad | it's maxima itself that has a dep set saying it wants tk |
| 12:58.05 | starseeker | OK. It might not have a disable flag - let me take a look |
| 12:58.59 | brlcad | i'm giving it a go to hack it off by hand |
| 12:59.07 | starseeker | ouch |
| 12:59.33 | starseeker | Don't worry too much brlcad - if it will take a lot of effort it's not that critical |
| 13:00.52 | starseeker | Confound it |
| 13:01.00 | starseeker | they don't have a disable X/tk flag |
| 13:06.32 | brlcad | well if you want to give a manual hacked compile a go, it should work -- all it's listed deps (except tk) are installed |
| 13:06.44 | starseeker | Cool - thanks! |
| 13:07.59 | brlcad | the ports system is in the middle of an upgrade, so things might disappear as they get updated |
| 13:08.09 | brlcad | lemme know if it looks like something is missing |
| 13:08.29 | brlcad | (but basically it's a full upgrade in progress, so even things like autoconf will disappear for a few min) |
| 13:08.57 | starseeker | Will do. My only concern so far is whether the Maxima guys stayed compatible with the 1.0.7 release of sbcl |
| 13:10.14 | starseeker | they may have |
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| 13:27.11 | starseeker | Interesting. The dumped lisp image won't load, but I CAN load the compiled fasl files and start the system |
| 13:27.51 | starseeker | Well, that should work fine |
| 13:28.06 | starseeker | Thanks Sean - appreciate it! |
| 13:28.32 | brlcad | got it working? |
| 13:28.37 | starseeker | Sort of |
| 13:28.59 | starseeker | The dumped lisp core is complaining about incorrect magic number, but I can load the system with a script |
| 13:29.13 | starseeker | eeeek |
| 13:29.42 | brlcad | "don't log out" if you use bash ;) |
| 13:29.46 | starseeker | Is rlwrap on this box anywhere? |
| 13:29.50 | starseeker | right :-) |
| 13:30.12 | brlcad | there it's back |
| 13:30.32 | starseeker | phew |
| 13:30.47 | brlcad | not too bad, none of the superuser accounts use bash |
| 13:30.57 | brlcad | so it would have been recoverable, just a pita |
| 13:31.04 | starseeker | Ah :-) |
| 13:31.52 | starseeker | If we can throw rlwrap on brlcad I think it should be good to go |
| 13:32.11 | starseeker | sbcl doesn't have a readline binding built in, so its default command line behavior is a bit like old style doss |
| 13:32.13 | starseeker | er dos |
| 13:33.19 | starseeker | Major system upgrades are always SO much fun... |
| 13:36.28 | brlcad | rlwrap installed |
| 13:43.12 | starseeker | Sweet! thanks much |
| 13:45.36 | starseeker | (being able to left arrow to fix a formula without erasing it is a nice feature...) |
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| 14:38.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30400 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln: Added breplicator. |
| 14:40.32 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r30401 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Initial check-in. |
| 14:42.06 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30402 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/patch/rpatch.f: ws |
| 14:46.55 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30403 10/brlcad/trunk/src/java/mil/army/arl/brlcad/ (BrlcadGeometry.java BrlcadGeometryServer.java Partition.java): add local variables footer |
| 14:47.07 | ``Erik | wait, what? fortran? |
| 14:47.40 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30404 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/ (footer.sh header.sh): add support for .java files |
| 14:50.15 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30405 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (8 files in 7 dirs): ws style updates for non-C source files that have been processed with indent.sh, making indentation consistent |
| 14:50.37 | ``Erik | what are you updating? the old bz machine? |
| 14:50.41 | brlcad | that's some old billy bob code |
| 14:50.46 | brlcad | yeah |
| 14:50.54 | brlcad | just a few things, not the whole thing |
| 14:51.31 | brlcad | portupgrade actually crashed mid-way, inconveniently leaving three ports deleted |
| 14:51.31 | ``Erik | "portupdate" like to rebuild a lot of stuff |
| 14:51.37 | ``Erik | ugh |
| 14:51.44 | ``Erik | crazy, did y ou pass it the -bu option? |
| 14:52.21 | brlcad | sorry, portmanager |
| 14:52.23 | brlcad | portmanager -u |
| 14:52.23 | ``Erik | <-- usually does "sudo portmanager -u -bu -l" |
| 14:52.47 | ``Erik | that -bu has saved my butt a couple times |
| 14:53.13 | brlcad | I was able to do the repairs before it wrecked any more havoc |
| 14:53.20 | brlcad | I don't really want the whole system to update |
| 14:53.33 | ``Erik | excuse to push the machine migration? :D |
| 14:53.50 | brlcad | just had to at least update the ports tree though, so everything will want to update |
| 14:55.17 | brlcad | did horrible on sh code |
| 15:15.05 | ``Erik | heh, ohloh got on slashdot's front page and got a lot of shit in the comments |
| 15:17.38 | ``Erik | "maybe playing strip poker against the naked robot wasn't such a good idea" |
| 15:18.59 | starseeker | Saw that |
| 15:19.36 | starseeker | I can see why people were uneasy - it's disconcerting to have people making professional judgements on you based on for-free/fun work |
| 15:19.59 | starseeker | Sort of ruins the relaxed atmosphere |
| 15:23.11 | ``Erik | plus loc is a shit metric, we've known that for 30 years *shrug8 |
| 15:23.23 | starseeker | indeed |
| 15:23.45 | ``Erik | probably the best thing microsoft ever did was break ibm's insistence on sloc for pay 25 years ago |
| 15:24.31 | starseeker | Certainly better than their "for non-commercial-use-only" doc releases |
| 15:42.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30406 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ (124 files in 10 dirs): |
| 15:42.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: needs some run-time testing, but apply the style changes to the tcl sources. |
| 15:42.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: indent.sh did surprisingly well at about 90% correctness though it was often |
| 15:42.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: confused by embedded #'s in the sources. seeing other examples, it looks like |
| 15:42.51 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: it's valid to quote the # (e.g. for upvar and #auto) and/or quote stringlists |
| 15:42.54 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: that have embeeded #'s but use {}'s. still needs testing. |
| 15:54.42 | brlcad | maxima is installed |
| 15:55.00 | starseeker | Cool! thank you |
| 16:00.45 | starseeker | Ah, maxima - my brain's math co-processor ;-) |
| 16:01.32 | ``Erik | heh |
| 16:23.13 | starseeker | Hmm - rset var_linewidth 3 doesn't do anything to the model line drawings. Is it another setting? |
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| 16:51.45 | starseeker | Anybody know if there's a way to smoothly zoom as opposed to clicking between large jumps? |
| 16:53.03 | starseeker | nevermind, found the zoom option on the command line |
| 19:41.53 | ``Erik | there's also "size" |
| 20:03.51 | brlcad | starseeker: there's no underscore |
| 20:03.54 | brlcad | run rset |
| 20:25.33 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30407 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (cmd.c cmd.h rtif.c): collapse some duplicate functions |
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| 20:36.32 | ``Erik | hrm |
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| 21:04.13 | starseeker | brlcad: Oh, duh - thanks |
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