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| 08:21.01 | toxygen | brlcad: thx for hints |
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| 09:49.09 | brlcad | well that should take care of the space problem |
| 09:49.32 | brlcad | server was accummulating nearly 400GB/day in backups and logging data |
| 09:49.37 | brlcad | moreso backups |
| 09:49.52 | brlcad | er, s/GB/MB/ |
| 09:51.02 | brlcad | maxing out just before the beginning of a month (e.g. now) when the mysql backups get rotated .. was using nearly 12GB just for one db alone |
| 10:01.13 | archivist | at least you have backups, it #mysql its amazing how many do not "how do i get my data back?" |
| 10:01.20 | archivist | it/in |
| 10:07.53 | brlcad | yeah, it's all good .. it was just a big excessive for that one db |
| 10:08.41 | brlcad | changed it's profile so it'll only backup every three days now, so it'll only use about 3GB in a given month for the level 0's before they're condensed to a level 1 monthly |
| 10:08.51 | brlcad | er, level 0 monthly |
| 10:09.02 | brlcad | daily to monthly |
| 10:09.12 | brlcad | it's late/early, I know what I mean at least :) |
| 10:13.32 | archivist | we often recomend replication which can be used as a continuous backup (hot slave) and then backup the slave |
| 10:14.02 | archivist | a mysql nicety |
| 10:16.48 | brlcad | yeah, that would be a nice thing to do for the server in germany |
| 10:16.59 | brlcad | maybe after the migration completes |
| 10:18.21 | brlcad | that's been part of the idea since that server's entire purpose is to (eventually) be a semi-hot-swap backup for bz should it be needed |
| 10:19.24 | brlcad | like to perform an OS upgrade, just update DNS, backup server is on-line responding while old is worked on picking up where it left off |
| 10:19.58 | brlcad | hoping to get fully symmetric backups for that (and not just mysql), maybe pipe dream but still tbd depending on the effort |
| 10:27.51 | brlcad | toxygen: you're welcome -- how're things working out? were you able to get the cy data file imported and ray-traced? |
| 10:39.53 | brlcad | toxygen: I saw the .g you uploaded... that sure doesn't look right to say the least. their format may have changed, I'll see if I can play with your data files this weekend |
| 10:40.18 | brlcad | is there any difference between 1, 2, and 3? |
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| 13:04.58 | toxygen | brlcad: thank you very much |
| 13:54.52 | ``Erik | hummm, my rdbms's are all single instnace dealies, I have the backign files marked "no-backup", and my nightly backup script does a database dump into a file before running dump |
| 13:55.50 | ``Erik | chflags nodump on bsd, um, linux uses some like chattr command with cryptic letter codes iirc |
| 13:56.18 | ``Erik | nodump on the files that shouldn't be backed up saves a LOT in space :) |
| 14:08.14 | brlcad | I backup offsite, I have absolute no space problems there -- the problem was local mysqldump backups where there are dailies for the current month and monthlies for all prior months |
| 14:08.49 | brlcad | the mysql backups were what has been filling the disks .. one of the db's has a ton of data |
| 14:09.09 | ``Erik | ah, I overwrite my sql dump file |
| 14:09.11 | brlcad | even with a ton of data, that just all goes offsite without a problem |
| 14:09.52 | ``Erik | still no point in moving a lot of the larger unnecessary files, like the binary mysql files when you have ascii dumps handy *shrug* |
| 14:09.53 | brlcad | offsite is at home, I can just buy extra TB as I need it |
| 14:10.15 | ``Erik | speaking of, I should probably buy another disk, I'm getting crunched again |
| 14:12.14 | brlcad | probably would be, but I don't really worry about it -- I just have it sync the entire fs, /dev and all, periodically |
| 14:12.46 | brlcad | more practical (to me) than running dump as the files are just sitting on the remote and can be reviewed/restored really easily |
| 14:13.23 | ``Erik | ah, I tend to dump and pipe through bzip2, so I have a good history |
| 14:13.33 | ``Erik | I've had people whine that they over-wrote a file a week ago and need the old version b ack |
| 14:15.15 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30152 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/ (10 files in 5 dirs): these files don't exist in tk8.5.0 |
| 14:16.20 | brlcad | was stashing configure and a few other gen'd files intentional? |
| 14:16.43 | ``Erik | no |
| 14:17.25 | ``Erik | cleaning things up now |
| 14:17.26 | brlcad | and yeah, I really don't care about those whiners, their low-level f'ups are their own issues .. I just care about easy non-invasive data-preserving high-level backups |
| 14:17.39 | brlcad | k |
| 14:19.10 | ``Erik | svn holds things different, so my old cvs fu doesn't work the same |
| 14:19.26 | alex_joni | brlcad: seen rsnapshot? |
| 14:19.28 | brlcad | toxygen's .g file with an ARS is either taking hours to prep or is stuck in an infinite loop .. 3 hours and counting now |
| 14:19.55 | ``Erik | O.o interesting |
| 14:20.37 | brlcad | alex_joni: no I hadn't, that is a bit interesting.. and familiar *ahem* |
| 14:21.30 | brlcad | but only tinglingly interesting.. that would safe size on the remote, but that's utterly low on the list of things that need improving |
| 14:21.54 | ``Erik | yeah, need to do server migration first O:-) |
| 14:22.16 | brlcad | just having a full fs copy is what is needed 9/10ths of the time a file/dir needs restoring |
| 14:22.23 | brlcad | yeah, maybe with new server, give it a go |
| 14:24.02 | ``Erik | I'd say "it's ok, she'll come back next time you're asleep", but knowing you, it's probably a code dream |
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| 14:29.59 | brlcad | heh |
| 14:39.23 | alex_joni | brlcad: it saved me getting to know rsync & co.. setup was painless (on a new install) |
| 14:47.41 | ``Erik | <-- is a luddite, likes dump/restore :( |
| 14:48.04 | ``Erik | (and 'interactive restore' is nice) |
| 15:06.39 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30153 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/ (load.c load.h slave.c): begin abstracting the load path |
| 15:54.26 | brlcad | howdy Maloeran |
| 15:54.52 | Maloeran | Fine fine, I'm presently in Venezuela, it's a bit tricky to stay connected on a regular basis |
| 15:55.10 | Maloeran | Since a laptop is worth about an year's income here, it's not something you want to take out too openly, and wireless internet networks don't exist |
| 15:55.49 | Maloeran | I'm also trying to commit a huge piece of code and Survice's CVS server keeps throwing me "waiting for cvs's lock in ..." |
| 15:56.15 | Maloeran | How are things in your region of the universe? |
| 16:05.51 | ``Erik | hah, greetings, mal |
| 16:06.59 | ``Erik | ("the dead" is already plural, no s... english sucks) |
| 16:07.34 | Maloeran | Oh. :) I'm more busy with learning spanish these days |
| 16:07.58 | Maloeran | Grah, stupid cvs lock thing |
| 16:08.14 | Maloeran | All right, I'm off to climb a 5000m mountain |
| 16:08.29 | ``Erik | later, dude, don't fall off :) |
| 16:08.35 | Maloeran | :) *waves* |
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| 17:12.02 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30154 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/component.c: use the adrt.h mesh defines instead of libcommon/adrt_common.h |
| 17:13.00 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30155 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libcommon/Makefile.am: don't build libcommon |
| 17:23.37 | brlcad | Maloeran: va bien, que haces en Venezuela? por que estas alli? vacciones? |
| 17:28.31 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30156 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/Makefile.am: don't use libcommon |
| 17:30.08 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30157 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/rtarea.1: separate names with a newline |
| 17:33.23 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30158 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/configure: remove generated configure |
| 17:53.57 | ``Erik | oh, heh |
| 17:54.02 | ``Erik | I got a bunch of stuff in tk that I svn rm'd |
| 17:54.09 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30159 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (28 files in 7 dirs): use libbu's memory management routines |
| 17:55.23 | ``Erik | sync |
| 17:55.23 | ``Erik | ls |
| 17:55.26 | ``Erik | bahhh |
| 18:00.44 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30160 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libutil/image.c: allow the save_ppm func to build (used in isst) |
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| 18:28.50 | ``Erik | uh |
| 18:29.08 | ``Erik | wow |
| 18:43.57 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30161 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtie/tie_kdtree.c: fixed a couple random crash bugs, improved memory manage messages, etc |
| 19:10.14 | Maloeran | brlcad, ya que trabajo a distancia, viajo un poco para ver el mundo. Vivir aqui esta mas barato que Montreal, includido los tickets de avion |
| 19:10.57 | Maloeran | I begun learning spanish a month ago ( but very intensively ), I'm amazed by how easy it is to learn a language |
| 19:12.10 | ``Erik | I know in US highschools, spanish is "the easiest" foreign language class and french is historically thought of as "the hardest" |
| 19:12.35 | ``Erik | (though japanese and chinese are showing up more and more, and the different writing systems add a dimension of complexity) |
| 19:12.47 | Maloeran | I don't think the spanish grammar is really easier than french, they are somewhat similar actually |
| 19:13.50 | Maloeran | It's amusing how they use certain tenses which, in french, are exclusively found in elaborate litterature... and vice-versa |
| 19:14.08 | ``Erik | both have distant ties to latin *shrug* |
| 19:14.35 | Maloeran | Bah, I'm really tired of these CVS lock errors |
| 19:14.48 | ``Erik | moreso than english, which has heavy influences from german and gaelic |
| 19:15.07 | Maloeran | I think that whenever I ctrl+c a cvs commit, because I forgot to add a file or whatever, the cvs server gets stuck because some "lock" file was not removed |
| 19:15.10 | ``Erik | someone probably has to shell into the cvs server and remove the lock files manually |
| 19:15.13 | Maloeran | And I have to yell at Survice until things work again |
| 19:15.42 | ``Erik | fire code? or rayfarce? |
| 19:16.02 | Maloeran | Rayfarce, we are supposed to ship some binaries to Disney soon |
| 19:16.19 | ``Erik | you should put it in the BRL-CAD repository, well maintained, accessable, using subversion now... :D |
| 19:16.20 | ``Erik | *duck* |
| 19:16.38 | Maloeran | Eheh :) |
| 19:17.48 | Maloeran | That's really a stupid bug if the cvs server can not handle a broken connection, a ctr+c or whatever else |
| 19:23.52 | Maloeran | Die cvs, go join your friends autoconf and libtool and die! |
| 19:24.16 | ``Erik | heh |
| 19:26.15 | Maloeran | Rayfarce is pretty much Linux, BSD and Windows only now |
| 19:28.37 | Maloeran | With 3000 lines of amd64/SSE3 assembly among other things... :) |
| 19:28.41 | ``Erik | obviously :D |
| 19:28.51 | ``Erik | and I imagine windows requires cygwin, not mingw32 |
| 19:28.59 | Maloeran | Ah no, it runs in mingw32 |
| 19:29.02 | ``Erik | otherwise autoconf/libtool would be hugely beneficial |
| 19:29.04 | ``Erik | :) |
| 19:29.06 | Maloeran | With pthreads-win32 |
| 19:29.56 | Maloeran | It also uses its own "cpuconf" tool which probes the processor to get the size of the caches, the cache width, instruction timing, etc. |
| 19:30.15 | Maloeran | cache line width, that is |
| 19:30.28 | ``Erik | hm, I thought windows (nt4.0 and later) had a pthread implementation (but not exposed in any headers, and with minor name munging) |
| 19:30.57 | Maloeran | Ah possibly, I just used pthreads-win32 |
| 19:31.36 | ``Erik | <-- still waits to see it go open source :) vagually recalls something in some contract somewhere about that ... O:-) |
| 19:32.37 | Maloeran | True, Lee and Mark agreed on something else in the end |
| 19:33.13 | ``Erik | hehehe, but that was verbal, so the paper over-rides it... :D |
| 19:34.22 | Maloeran | Eh well. It could be fun to get into some parternship with Disney on this |
| 19:36.04 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30162 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (master/Makefile.am slave/Makefile.am): rename isst_{master,slave} to adrt_... since it's now generalized |
| 19:36.26 | ``Erik | meanwhile I'm stuck with this O.o :D |
| 19:37.01 | Maloeran | Aw :) |
| 19:37.47 | Maloeran | The CVS change log I had written is so huge, I just want.. to... commit... |
| 19:44.57 | ``Erik | heh, later dude :) |
| 20:03.49 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30163 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/slave/load.c: now approaching critical ugliness |
| 21:08.17 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30164 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/librt/dg_obj.c src/mged/rtif.c): |
| 21:08.21 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: get/check the exit code of the process so that rt doesn't just say it completed. |
| 21:08.27 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: have it report that it failed if the return status is non-zero. mods include |
| 21:08.31 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: the calls for windows so needs some testing. implemented in response to user |
| 21:08.41 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: confusion over failed rt runs that die early or never start and having mged say |
| 21:08.45 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: they completd. |
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| 21:09.15 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30165 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 21:09.19 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: make openNURBS a build requirement, so we have to either build it or use a |
| 21:09.29 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: system openNURBS library now .. will need to test/fix compilations on other |
| 21:09.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: platforms but this does hopefully fix some of the linux build problems john was |
| 21:09.41 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: seeing on ubuntu. |
| 21:52.33 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r30166 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/Makefile.am: update dependancy |
| 21:55.26 | brlcad | tclcad depends on blt? |
| 21:55.36 | brlcad | oh, Blt_Init maybe? |
| 21:56.10 | brlcad | in that case, also depends on tcl, tk, itcl, itk |
| 21:57.05 | ``Erik | those're handled recursively I think |
| 21:57.35 | ``Erik | adding blt fixed the compile error (make clean ; cd target ; make depends all) |
| 21:58.20 | brlcad | ah, k |
| 21:58.25 | brlcad | just curious |
| 22:01.14 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30167 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: parker has made mods to the intensity handling for ghosted images, the main display no longer displays the extra/premature/misleading menu options (Edit, Steps) |
| 22:02.12 | ``Erik | heh |
| 22:02.14 | ``Erik | pimp my cad |
| 22:14.36 | CIA-31 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r30168 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: parker also added/ported several missing framebuffer tools including those needed by archer. includes bw-pix, bwmod, pix-bw, pixmatte. probably others. |
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