| 00:13.37 | starseeker | yukonbob: Ah :-). I should mention this is my first encounter with Docbook, so I'm feeling my way as I go |
| 00:24.47 | yukonbob | starseeker: what tools are you using to do your work? |
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| 00:36.19 | starseeker | nedit and the docbook website |
| 00:37.55 | thing0 | hey yall |
| 00:39.01 | starseeker | yukonbob: What tools do you prefer? |
| 00:40.42 | thing0 | hehe |
| 00:40.45 | thing0 | I hate all tools |
| 00:40.47 | thing0 | ;) |
| 00:40.48 | yukonbob | starseeker: I'm using xemacs (psgml/xml mode), openjade, jadetex, www for reference... |
| 00:40.52 | thing0 | nothing works how I want it to work |
| 00:40.59 | thing0 | but it takes to much effort to fix them all |
| 00:41.00 | thing0 | ;) |
| 00:41.02 | yukonbob | thing0: you need new tools ;) |
| 00:41.28 | thing0 | yeah |
| 00:41.33 | yukonbob | starseeker: ...dvipdf, xpdf, and some simple homebrew Makefiles |
| 00:41.34 | thing0 | but there is nothing on the market |
| 00:41.41 | thing0 | which meets all my requirements |
| 00:41.44 | thing0 | I am too picky |
| 00:41.46 | thing0 | ;) |
| 00:43.22 | thing0 | why is it so hard to have a customisable right click menu |
| 00:43.32 | thing0 | or be able to reconfigure dialog boxes |
| 00:47.22 | starseeker | Erm. OK, I wonder how different the nxml and psgml/xml mode identing is |
| 00:48.10 | starseeker | yukonbob: I'll try commiting the updated formatting using nXML mode (which has already spotted a couple xml errors for me :-)) |
| 00:48.23 | starseeker | I haven't moved beyond that to trying to process as I go |
| 00:48.43 | starseeker | I'm using the full txt file to guide me |
| 00:52.22 | yukonbob | ?full txt file |
| 00:52.45 | starseeker | The complete conversion of VolII to txt |
| 00:52.48 | starseeker | all in one file |
| 00:52.54 | yukonbob | ahh... |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * 10brlcad/doc/book/VolumeII.xml: |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: Used Emacs nXML mode to update indent, fixed a few problems. Using |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: [Enter] instead of <Enter> for the command notation to avoid the editor |
| 00:53.10 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: seeing <Enter> as a tag. |
| 00:53.11 | starseeker | It sound's like you're ahead of me in the tools game |
| 00:54.44 | yukonbob | if you go jade-route, I can give you my makefile which will save fsck-ing around and streamline the process. |
| 00:54.53 | starseeker | Sounds good |
| 00:55.12 | starseeker | brlcad will probably select his preferred toolset in the end, but it shouldn't matter for the conversion process |
| 00:56.23 | yukonbob | same as I'm using... |
| 00:56.36 | starseeker | OK. How different is our tagging style? |
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| 01:18.54 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * 10brlcad/doc/book/VolumeII.xml: |
| 01:18.54 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: yukonbob spotted that commands should use <command> rather than |
| 01:18.54 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: <literal>. |
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| 01:51.10 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * 10brlcad/doc/book/VolumeII.xml: More markup - 1st formal table. |
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| 04:31.05 | yukonbob | starseeker: you still on? |
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| 08:38.36 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: alt-f to open the File menu collides with alt-f which makes the upper elft pane active |
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| 08:39.58 | Z80-Boy | Plus the normal vectors seem the be calculated wrong for either arbn or cylinder |
| 08:40.35 | Z80-Boy | because I have a cylinder which is smoothly joined to a piece of arbn, and it makes an abrupt change in colour. |
| 08:42.29 | Z80-Boy | Is this allowed to happen? |
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| 09:19.35 | Z80-Boy | Oh, the grid spacing can be set to milimeters and then it is usable! |
| 09:19.41 | Z80-Boy | It was just in a different menu than the grid. |
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| 09:45.33 | Z80-Boy | brl-cad is showing corrupt geometry for me |
| 09:45.58 | Z80-Boy | I have two parts - tee.g and ell.g and a group of them, tee_ell.g where one part is rotated just by swapping and inverting axes |
| 09:46.14 | Z80-Boy | the group is showing the part completely mangled, things protruding which not exists, completely different shape |
| 09:46.22 | Z80-Boy | I checked that the matrix is not weird and made it again |
| 09:46.51 | Z80-Boy | Sometimes mged even hangs when trying to display the group and has to be restarted to display |
| 09:47.27 | Z80-Boy | On the raytrace the protruding thing is missing -> raytrace shows something else than mged |
| 09:49.42 | Z80-Boy | I need someone to try to reproduce it because it doesn't make sense to post a bugreport when it won't happen on a different OS |
| 09:55.01 | Z80-Boy | oh, now brl-cad crashed |
| 09:55.01 | Z80-Boy | seems that brl-cad crashes or hangs every time I open the tee_ell.g in red and change the matrix |
| 10:11.10 | Z80-Boy | Now it doesn't crash or hang, but it doesn't redraw anything - the old drawing remains |
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| 10:15.34 | Z80-Boy | It seems to be caused by a bug in the arbn tranform code |
| 10:15.47 | Z80-Boy | if you take an arbn and mirror the x axis, you get something completely different. |
| 10:18.29 | Z80-Boy | Bug isolated... |
| 10:19.08 | Z80-Boy | Who wants the .g? |
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| 10:26.56 | Z80-Boy | brlcad: I have just sent you the bug isolate to your @users.sourceforge.net address. |
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| 10:27.28 | MinuteElectron | You could just use the sf bug tracker. |
| 10:27.54 | Z80-Boy | "(-) Error - Choose a Group ERROR - No group_id was chosen" |
| 10:28.14 | MinuteElectron | Oh, I see. |
| 10:28.22 | MinuteElectron | You must choose a group I guess. |
| 10:31.41 | Z80-Boy | Wohoo, I changed my 123456 password back to my universal password and SF doesn't complain :) |
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| 10:42.17 | Z80-Boy | MinuteElectron: what version of brl-cad do you have? |
| 10:42.57 | Z80-Boy | MinuteElectron: can you try the file? https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1800148&group_id=105292&atid=640802 |
| 10:45.18 | MinuteElectron | I don't have BRL-CAD. |
| 10:46.54 | MinuteElectron | I would if I had an internet capable Linux PC, but I don't and can't work out how to use my removable hard disk on Command Line Linux. |
| 10:47.41 | thing2 | hmm |
| 10:48.05 | Z80-Boy | thing0: do you have brl-cad? |
| 10:49.27 | thing0 | neg |
| 10:49.37 | thing0 | shitty net connection |
| 10:49.44 | thing0 | will probably install when I get back |
| 10:50.00 | thing0 | cause I have just about had it with commercial CAD ;) |
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| 11:44.31 | Z80-Boy | The arbn doesn't seem to have had much attention by the developers |
| 11:44.43 | Z80-Boy | not only it mirrors badly, but it also calculates the lighting badly. |
| 11:56.36 | Z80-Boy | The sourceforge is extremely slow |
| 11:56.43 | Z80-Boy | transferring data from ssl-analytics.google.com... |
| 11:57.13 | Z80-Boy | Now it shows a bugreport as an empty page |
| 11:58.02 | Z80-Boy | Now it uploaded a file twice... |
| 11:58.07 | Z80-Boy | Ultimate crap... |
| 11:59.18 | Z80-Boy | Firefox: You have chosen to open bad_shading.png which is image/png. It offers save or download, but not display! |
| 12:04.30 | Z80-Boy | So now there are 2 bugreports on sourceforge with screenshots. |
| 12:05.26 | Z80-Boy | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=105292&atid=640802&file_id=246705&aid=1800148 |
| 12:58.27 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * 10brlcad/doc/book/VolumeII.xml: Markup through Lesson 2. |
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| 15:09.04 | Z80-Boy | 38 azimuth 15 elephantion off of front view |
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| 18:20.28 | Z80-Boy | dbconcat segfaults... |
| 18:21.51 | Z80-Boy | ASCII import also segfaults... |
| 18:22.05 | Z80-Boy | very helpful |
| 18:26.24 | Z80-Boy | ls claims to accept -A but doesn't... |
| 21:13.27 | Maloeran | Hey brlcad, just in case you want to compare, this is kind of installation we have in Montreal for bicycles : http://www.rayforce.net/bicycle-lanes-small.jpg |
| 21:14.08 | Maloeran | This really is a bridge exclusively for bicycles and pedestrians. I wasn't kidding when I was comparing with Maryland's lanes... |
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| 22:16.26 | ``Erik | md is too ... populated... bikers take over streets at times, in herds |
| 22:22.20 | ``Erik | boggling that 'candide' was censored and banned as 'obscene' :( |
| 22:22.48 | yukonbob | point your xmms to: http://207.200.96.231:8012 |
| 22:22.51 | Maloeran | It directly attacked religions and theism in rather... sensitive times |
| 22:22.56 | yukonbob | (soma) |
| 22:23.29 | ``Erik | on to frank zappa (willy the pimp) |
| 22:23.46 | ``Erik | mal: it was banned in the 20th century. |
| 22:23.52 | Maloeran | Woah! |
| 22:23.56 | Maloeran | I didn't know that |
| 22:24.33 | ``Erik | upenn keeps an amusing list of banned works in supposed enlightened nations |
| 22:24.45 | ``Erik | canuckia has a good fistful, btw |
| 22:25.09 | Maloeran | Really? I can't imagine anything of the sort being banned here |
| 22:28.32 | ``Erik | http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/banned-books.html |
| 22:29.32 | Maloeran | There isn't much about Canada in there, besides banning "hate speech" books, which I can understand |
| 23:59.32 | starseeker | you've been going all day? |
| 23:59.49 | yukonbob | pretty much -- ~6 hours I guess (!) |
| 23:59.59 | starseeker | eeeep! |
