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| 13:30.28 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Do you have a poll I can put on the website, I am adding a proper one as the poll that was originally there was temporary. |
| 14:00.34 | fleeky-circus | is it possible to do union / difference / intersection stuff in archer? |
| 14:35.22 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Are you wanting all the PDFs to be converted to wiki. |
| 14:35.29 | MinuteElectron | s/./? |
| 17:50.19 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: i added a better poll |
| 17:50.28 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/doc/description.txt: update the full description section so it reads better, shorten the first paragraph, include history, and mention mike. add a 2000-char long description section too. |
| 17:50.35 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/doc/pad_file.xml.in: update the long description |
| 17:51.07 | brlcad | er, not better .. just "a poll", since there wasn't one :) |
| 17:52.05 | brlcad | i wouldn't work on converting the pdf's just yet -- I'd just link to them and refer to them as "books" that folks can download |
| 17:52.12 | brlcad | (not drupal books, just "books") |
| 17:52.25 | brlcad | as they were actually published books |
| 17:53.08 | brlcad | i mean if you want to convert them, that'd be great, but it's a project all in itself as I'm wanting to get them to docbook format so that html and pdf forms can be auto-generated |
| 17:53.58 | brlcad | as for the license, some of the docs are public domain, some are bsd documentation licensed |
| 17:54.56 | brlcad | fleeky: i believe so, but it expects you to already know the mged interface -- if you turn on the advanced interface so you can get the console, I know you can type the mged editing commands that let you perform the CSG -- not sure about the gui |
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| 18:01.34 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Cool. |
| 18:04.16 | MinuteElectron | Funnily some things on the site fix themselves and others destory them. |
| 18:04.59 | brlcad | howso? |
| 18:05.35 | brlcad | fyi, i fixed the poll preview background .. it was white, added a #content .content that fixed it |
| 18:05.54 | MinuteElectron | The footer didn't work properly yesterday, now it does. The navigation bar didn't stretch all the way across the screen the other day now, for some reason, it does. |
| 18:06.04 | MinuteElectron | in IE that is (the stretching) |
| 18:06.13 | brlcad | i noticed that the footer in IE didn't work for me |
| 18:06.27 | brlcad | unless you manually grab the window |
| 18:06.42 | brlcad | you could see the 1px flutter, but it didn't move the footer |
| 18:06.51 | MinuteElectron | It seams to work now. |
| 18:06.56 | brlcad | heh |
| 18:07.37 | brlcad | what's wierd is that it really shouldn't be needed I'd think .. it "should" work just as the last content item with a 100% width |
| 18:08.06 | brlcad | instead of being basically "early" content that is placed at the end |
| 18:08.36 | brlcad | good for now at least, though it would be nice to remove that hack |
| 18:08.41 | MinuteElectron | yeah |
| 18:09.46 | brlcad | i deleted that other user .. hopefully not someone in here |
| 18:10.10 | brlcad | bah, HD is full, can't allocate enough for the VM at the moment to check IE |
| 18:10.18 | MinuteElectron | ouch |
| 18:12.31 | MinuteElectron | Would it be an idea to upload the pdf's to the wiki as a temporary measure then link from the wiki to the pdfs uplaoded to the wiki instead of it being an external link. The current locations could be redirected to the locations on the wiki. |
| 18:13.40 | brlcad | sounds like a great idea |
| 18:13.44 | MinuteElectron | :) |
| 18:14.35 | brlcad | the Doc link could probably go straight to a wiki page that lists all the docs |
| 18:14.45 | brlcad | with a page per doc or something |
| 18:14.57 | MinuteElectron | It currently does if I am understanding you correctly. |
| 18:15.08 | brlcad | ah, so it does |
| 18:16.10 | brlcad | i'm working on the drupal upgrade now, then i'll try to unify drupal/mediawiki user db's |
| 18:16.32 | MinuteElectron | No LDAP? |
| 18:16.48 | brlcad | that's one way to unify them ;) |
| 18:16.58 | MinuteElectron | Oh, right. I see. |
| 18:16.59 | brlcad | i'm going to try |
| 18:23.45 | MinuteElectron | cool |
| 18:24.38 | brlcad | eep, You don't have permission to access /d/admin/logs/updates/settings on this server. |
| 18:26.09 | MinuteElectron | Oh, you can only do that with the root account afaik. |
| 18:26.23 | MinuteElectron | Which is my account unfourtunatley, and there is only one root account. |
| 18:26.43 | MinuteElectron | s/is only/can only be/ |
| 18:28.34 | MinuteElectron | What needs doing? |
| 18:28.35 | brlcad | that's fairly odd, drupal would normally say that in the result |
| 18:28.39 | MinuteElectron | oh |
| 18:28.44 | MinuteElectron | *shrug* |
| 18:28.47 | MinuteElectron | are you logged in? |
| 18:29.38 | brlcad | yep |
| 18:29.58 | MinuteElectron | hmm |
| 18:30.00 | MinuteElectron | odd |
| 18:31.11 | MinuteElectron | brb |
| 18:39.37 | MinuteElectron | backlk |
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| 18:57.06 | louipc | .hiub /3\ |
| 19:44.32 | fleeky | question : i heard that it was planned to make a more user-friendly (idiot proof) ui for brl-cad is anyone working/planning on that in here ? |
| 19:49.54 | brlcad | there has been quite a bit of work in that area, but mostly on the low-level areas that need to change for supporting a new ui |
| 19:50.15 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: PDF indication: icon or text? |
| 19:50.28 | brlcad | icon |
| 19:50.32 | MinuteElectron | :) |
| 19:50.40 | brlcad | :) |
| 19:51.52 | brlcad | fleeky: if you're a dev, you're more than welcome to jump in on the fun ;) it's pretty well understood the limitations of mged and even the improved archer interface |
| 19:52.57 | brlcad | it's more a matter of having enough developer manpower going into the (various) efforts needed, else just waiting for it to happen as it gets worked |
| 21:02.17 | MinuteElectron | ouch, an 18.6MB pdf being uploaded by http. |
| 21:04.11 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Should I upload the example program to the wiki, install a syntax highlighter and paste the source code to a page, or just link to the curent location. Or a combination of the three, personally I would do 1 and 2 - but that is just me. |
| 21:31.43 | brlcad | wouldn't think we'd want to link to anything in the current location if we can get away with it |
| 21:32.00 | MinuteElectron | Ok, makes sense. |
| 21:32.09 | brlcad | importing into the wiki with syntax highlighting would probably look the best |
| 21:32.42 | MinuteElectron | What about the newdb documentation, would be very tedious to import in the wiki (if you want that) and is also very big. |
| 21:37.22 | brlcad | I'll deal with that one, it needs other work |
| 21:42.45 | poolio | allo |
| 21:43.30 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: ok |
| 21:47.29 | brlcad | howdy poolio, how's it going? |
| 21:51.33 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: Once it is ready to go 'live' will the site be moved to brlcad.org or will it forever remain as my.brlcad.org? If the former then something must be done regarding doxygen I think. |
| 21:59.02 | poolio | brlcad: ok except the death of my laptop. i'm thinking of starting up a robotics / genetic algorithms project here :) |
| 22:14.58 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.22 | brlcad | doxygen stuff will completey chane |
| 22:15.40 | brlcad | s/chane/change/ |
| 22:15.43 | MinuteElectron | ok |
| 22:18.21 | brlcad | poolio: cool, sounds like fun :) |
| 22:19.27 | louipc | ooh robotics |
| 22:21.33 | MinuteElectron | brlcad: What about the ARL reports? |
| 22:24.40 | poolio | Yeah, I'm thinking applying GAs to evolution of a proper / speedy gait. Maybe having robots develop a new gate when they're injured/modified/placed in certain circumstances. |
| 22:25.50 | brlcad | MinuteElectron: what about them? |
| 22:26.04 | MinuteElectron | where will they be moved? |
| 22:26.31 | brlcad | I have probably 30-50 reports that relate to brl-cad that are going to go into a publications section somewhere on the site |
| 22:26.39 | MinuteElectron | ok. |
| 22:26.44 | MinuteElectron | sounds good |
| 22:27.08 | brlcad | the three that are up there were just three that a few folks specifically asked for |
| 22:27.22 | MinuteElectron | Oh, right. |
| 22:28.13 | brlcad | drupal's probably more appropriate for them as they're fixed published documents, but the formats vary wildly and I'll need to clean them up some |
| 22:28.56 | MinuteElectron | ok |
| 22:29.10 | MinuteElectron | crickey, a 20MB pdf. |
| 22:34.46 | brlcad | should be |
| 22:35.13 | brlcad | php upload max is set at 128MB |
| 22:35.31 | MinuteElectron | Cool. |
| 22:36.14 | brlcad | don't see a mediawiki limit in the settings file, so whatever the default is |
| 22:37.04 | minute | There is no limit IIRC, we once had a discussion regarding it I think (in one of the mediawiki forums\malinglists\irc channls. |
| 22:38.42 | brlcad | which 20MB pdf are you referring to? don't do anything with the An_Overview one.. |
| 22:39.13 | minute | user group presentations |
| 22:39.21 | brlcad | aah |
| 22:39.22 | brlcad | heh, yeah |
| 22:40.36 | minute | Everything downloaded, now for upload. |
| 22:59.45 | minute | I am too tired to upload these files. Once this one uploads /me is going to sleep. |
| 23:22.34 | brlcad | :) |
| 23:23.28 | brlcad | nice progress, though .. |
| 23:23.58 | brlcad | as soon as the user db's are unified, it could probably go live at this point, even as new data gets added |
| 23:25.43 | minute | cool, thanks. |
| 23:26.48 | minute | Goodnight. |
| 23:34.52 | brlcad | cya minute |