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07:07.01Beyond_The_GraveDoes anybody have this installed on ubuntu?
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08:33.44MinuteElectronOh,
08:33.50MinuteElectronI was just about to tell him something.
08:34.19MinuteElectronPrezKennedy: How's it going?
08:35.54MinuteElectroncygwin is annoying - you can only have irssi for windows installed OR cygwin.
08:35.58MinuteElectronanyway, website
09:04.13MinuteElectronbrlcad: What do you think? http://my.brlcad.org/
10:14.53CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: use AC_LANG_PUSH, AC_LANG_POP for going into/out of C++ testing mode
10:17.08brlcadMinuteElectron: when the quote overlaps the search, search goes down instead of causing the quote to wrap..
10:17.37brlcadalso think it needs the bezel to match the style above
10:18.14brlcadmaybe colored background too so that parallels, otherwise the bar is just kinda sitting there
10:19.09MinuteElectronbezel?
10:23.52MinuteElectronI don't understand what bezel means brlcad.
10:28.06MinuteElectronand which bar are you talking about?
10:39.58MinuteElectronThe problem with the footer has been fixed.
10:53.23brlcadbezel is the curve that makes the search box blend with the bar
10:53.35brlcadthere are two on the top bar (one above, one below)
10:53.55MinuteElectronI see,
10:54.02MinuteElectronI was going to do that, I will work on that now.
10:54.11MinuteElectronbrlcad: What about the parallels?
10:54.33brlcadhaving the footer match the header (i.e. something non-black)
10:54.49brlcadotherwise the footer is just kind of out of place
10:54.52MinuteElectronoh, ok.
10:55.01MinuteElectrongreen?
10:55.21brlcadi actually like it black, but it doesn't work well with a black content area, so one of the two needs to change :)
10:55.36MinuteElectronI will experiment.
10:55.47brlcadtry palette colors
10:56.00MinuteElectrondo you have a link for that?
10:56.06brlcadlooking
10:56.59brlcadhttp://my.brlcad.org/~sean/color_palette.png
10:57.08MinuteElectronthanks
10:58.03Laniakeahmm, looks like you are taking the design seriously
10:58.08Laniakeacolours, fonts,...
10:58.15Laniakeahighlights and shadows...
10:58.34LaniakeaI like the colours.
10:58.41brlcadaim towards having a consistent style
10:58.47MinuteElectronok
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12:49.11PrezKennedycrazy nocturnal IRC goers ;-)
12:50.13``Erikhum
12:50.24``Erik4547 vgr's inside of parallels
12:50.58PrezKennedyfor the Mac?
12:52.36``Erikhrm? host is a mac, guest is obsd
12:54.50Laniakea``Erik: now I should download the BRL-CAD CVS and try it on my obsd?
13:26.13PrezKennedythis is the largest collection of mac users ive ever seen!
13:26.14PrezKennedy:-P
13:54.26``ErikLaniakea: it worked fine for me, I actually un-did what I thought may've been a fix...
13:56.26``Erikthis was on a just-updated 4.1
13:59.02Laniakea``Erik: so do I need to update from 4.0 to 4.1?
13:59.50``ErikI d'no, I grabbed 41 *shrug* does it still fail for you on 40?
14:05.14``Erik"velcro sport corset"
14:20.52``Erikoi, hoolio
15:37.15CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/other/libpng/Makefile.am: readme moved with version bump
15:49.52CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/sig/Makefile.am: add DEPS line
15:50.58``Erikoi, hoolio
15:51.01``Erikwoops
15:53.04CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/sig/ (Makefile.am dfft.c): coerce dfft to use bu_getopt instead of the big whileifelseifelseif construct
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16:00.58``Erikhummmmmm
16:01.06``Erikfast eddies? or donnas?
16:19.16PrezKennedyoh man... i want Fast Eddies
16:19.23PrezKennedyWhat's Donnas?
17:40.22``ErikPLACE ON POST
17:40.26``Erikwoops, caps lock
17:40.34``Erikwe went tot he bowling alley instead, beer good *grunt* :)
17:40.58``Erikfast eddies is a lot better than donnas O.o but a lot further away
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17:45.33Beyond_The_GraveDoes anybody have this installed on ubuntu?
17:50.12``Eriknot I... what's the issue?
17:50.22``Erik(heh, kansas city, I was there a few weeks ago)
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18:02.34MinuteElectronOh how I hate incompatible software,
18:03.04Beyond_The_GraveWell, my problem is that I can't get it to run once everything has installed... which program actually runs it?
18:03.30Beyond_The_GraveSorry for the wait
18:05.41Beyond_The_GraveIt didn't make an icon on the menu to run the program...
18:05.59MinuteElectronheh - I don't think it is meant to.
18:06.26MinuteElectronI have never actually compiled it so I wouldn't know.
18:06.53Beyond_The_GraveWell, I was hoping to get help to figure that out...
18:07.47Beyond_The_GraveIt's installed, but when I tried to click on the "mged" like the ubuntu forums said to do it didn't work...
18:08.56PrezKennedytry running mged in bash or something
18:09.10Beyond_The_GraveShould I have stuck with a lower version, cause I'm using the 7.10.2, and I don't know if that's a beta or not?
18:09.53Beyond_The_GraveIt's says the command doesn't exist
18:10.42Beyond_The_GraveWhich one is the one to run brl-cad?
18:11.00Beyond_The_GraveAnd what's up with having to make a path?
18:11.29``Erikthat's a real release
18:11.30``Erikupdate your path
18:11.36``Erikexport PATH=$PATH:/usr/brlcad/bin
18:11.36Beyond_The_GraveHow?
18:11.50``Erikthen you should be able to run 'mged'
18:12.10MinuteElectrontry from the bin folder of brlcad typing "./mged"
18:12.23Beyond_The_GraveIs that brl-cad, or is that one tool?
18:12.28``Erikbut "." might not be int he path, so the subtools (like rt) might not work
18:12.47``ErikBRL-CAD is over 400 'tools'... mged is the fancy gui frontend/modeller
18:12.49MinuteElectronok
18:12.51``Erikfancy, heh
18:13.01PrezKennedyfancy as a freight train!
18:13.12Beyond_The_GraveSo from mged can you use all the other tools?
18:15.06brlcadnot all of them, but several of the more frequently used tools
18:15.37Beyond_The_GraveOK
18:16.19brlcadBeyond_The_Grave: there should also be an mged.sh script or something, I think that's what one of the ubuntu guys did that made the deb
18:16.30brlcadthat might be what you can "just click"
18:17.03MinuteElectronbrlcad: Do you have a few moments?
18:17.07brlcadwhen it installs, it _usually_ is installed into /usr/brlcad by default given the size and number of apps that are actually installed
18:17.35brlcadPrezKennedy: haha
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18:18.21brlcadMinuteElectron: of course, go ahea
18:18.24brlcadd
18:18.29MinuteElectronI have been experimenting with different color combinations.
18:18.38MinuteElectronNon of them work as a block of color.
18:18.47brlcadhmm
18:18.52brlcadbecause of the bar?
18:19.26brlcadi'd only expect the hilights or the shadows to even be feasible, and even then probably would still need to change the bar's color maybe .. "maybe"
18:19.43MinuteElectronNo, when the page is really short the footer takes up most of the page thus meaning the color is very distracting.
18:20.04brlcadi see that :)
18:20.14MinuteElectronIt might be possible to make the footer the same size regardless.
18:20.26MinuteElectrons/might be/is
18:20.27brlcadhm
18:20.41MinuteElectronbut that would cause extra whitespace (actually blackspace)
18:21.17brlcadyeah, what about fixing the footer to the bottom of the window, absolute coords from base
18:21.28MinuteElectronI can do that, one moment.
18:22.54MinuteElectronWhich web browser are you using.
18:23.19MinuteElectronIt works as desired in Firefox, but not Opera - I will debug once a design is finalised.
18:23.48MinuteElectronThe trouble is when you scroll it stays in the same place.
18:24.11MinuteElectronIt doesn't go to the very bottom, only the bottom of the window.
18:24.16MinuteElectronLet me try something.
18:24.32``Erikhehehe http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/If-Only-Id-Been-More-Explicit.aspx
18:29.28MinuteElectronIt works alright now, but the background color is gone.
18:29.38MinuteElectronI will diagnose once I have had dinner.
18:48.43MinuteElectronPart in #defocus - freenode just broke 40k connected users record.
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18:54.58Beyond_The_GraveHow do you get rid of BRL?
18:58.41Beyond_The_GraveHow do you get rid of BRL?
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18:59.42``Erikum
18:59.47``Erikdecrement the first letter by one?
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19:25.50MinuteElectronbrlcad: Have you just done something to the site?
19:27.46MinuteElectronbecause it is broekn due to ldap integration errors
19:50.35PrezKennedyi love Worse Than Failure :-)
19:51.25MinuteElectronyeah
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20:43.58CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/ (4 files in 4 dirs): DEPS updates
21:01.38CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/ (4 files in 4 dirs): DEPS updates
21:31.13CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/ (include/bu.h src/libbu/image.c): make the RGB data buffers unsigned
21:36.36brlcadMinuteElectron: no, I've not done anything
21:36.42brlcadI went from lunch to meetings most of the day
21:36.49``Erikew
21:36.55brlcadinformal
21:37.12MinuteElectronbrlcad: Oh, ok.
21:37.16MinuteElectronWeird.
21:37.21MinuteElectronAnyway.
21:37.33MinuteElectronbrlcad: Can you take a look at the site, have I chosen the right color?
21:37.50CIA-21BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libbu/image.c: explicitely cast to keep osX happy
21:40.19``Erikbrlcad, have you looked at the 74 'off by one' pixels in m35?
21:41.15``Eriknote to self; don't resize pix-fb windows. O.o
21:48.54brlcad``Erik: at one point or another, yes
21:49.03brlcadall floating point fuzz issues
21:49.54brlcadthere used to be two others that had off-by-one consistently, but I believe I just recently fixed them with the tolerance tweaks I added
21:54.00``Erikthe m35 was the only in the benchmark suite that gave me off by 1's, and most of them were glancing hits on toriii
21:54.05``Eriks/i$//
21:54.23brlcadyeah, that's new
21:54.27brlcadlike as of last week iirc
21:55.06``Erikok, mebbe I'll look at it tomorrow
21:56.58brlcadi might be confusing plats too as it's different for plats
21:57.09brlcadbsd matches the vgr ref pretty close because it was running a bsd
21:57.28``ErikI'm building on the mac to see if the diffs are there, I have a pixdiff from an amd64 fbsd box if you want
21:57.50``ErikI think you know the one, it's in /tmp if you're curious *shrug*
21:58.50brlcadiirc, the grazings on m35 are all torus-related
21:59.10brlcadnah, I've seen it before
21:59.27brlcadjust pixdiff m35.pix ../pix/m35.pix | pix-fb -F/dev/Xl
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