IRC log for #brlcad on 20070811

00:19.02dtidrowbtw, Judge Kimball has declared that Novell owns UNIX....
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05:25.23CIA-27BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_ogl.c: there is just one IF_ per interface -- if you don't want the ogl interface, then don't define IF_OGL .. this has nothing to do with IF_WGL
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06:40.50jpjacobsHi! is there someone actually maintaining the .deb of BRL-CAD?
06:44.40brlcadon and off
06:44.46brlcadso, no not really :)
06:45.06MinuteElectronbrlcad: Hi,
06:45.10brlcadhey MinuteElectron
06:45.39MinuteElectronSee my message above :)
06:45.40brlcadI'm not home just yet to attend to a big laundry list of things -- including ldap unfortunately, but have seen some of the backlog
06:46.00MinuteElectronoh ok
06:46.11brlcadldap isn't going to be integrated with the "other projects" if you mean bzflag's ldap plans
06:46.12MinuteElectrondw
06:46.26brlcadonly the other brl-cad services, the four or so main sections
06:46.34MinuteElectronbrlcad: No, I was just wondering whether you had had any success with it yet.
06:47.03brlcadI successfully got it installed, and successfully verified that it installed correctly :)
06:47.11MinuteElectronAhh, OK.
06:47.23MinuteElectronThanks for the info.
06:47.29brlcadproper configuration is going to be a learning experience for me
06:47.36MinuteElectronSame here.
06:47.41brlcadfeel free to give it a try yourself if you want to play with it
06:47.49brlcadyou can educate me later :)
06:47.59MinuteElectron:) ok, I will try.
06:47.59brlcadotherwise, it's near the top of my list when I get back
06:48.20MinuteElectroncool
06:48.23brlcadlet me know if you need access or something, but I think you should be set
06:48.31MinuteElectronyep
06:49.03MinuteElectronbrlcad: Where was it installed to again?
06:49.03brlcadand .htaccess files should be good now
06:49.15brlcadi did verify that was working now
06:49.52brlcadwhich coincidentally broke about a half-dozen other resident sites on the server that had .htaccess files that weren't set up right =)
06:50.24MinuteElectronheh
06:53.15MinuteElectronYay! RewriteRules in .htacces work.
06:53.26MinuteElectronBaffles me why they didn't in httpd.conf
06:56.46MinuteElectronbrlcad: Please can you remind me of the path to the Apache conf files and the LDAP conf files.
08:10.08MinuteElectronbrlcad: Does there currently exist somewhere I can get all of the quotes?
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12:11.17``ErikMinuteElectron: /usr/local/etc/{apache22,openldap}/
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12:14.49MinuteElectron``Erik: thanks.
14:21.28LinuxMafiahi
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15:04.42LinuxMafiahi brlcad
15:04.51LinuxMafiahi ``Erik
15:05.19LinuxMafiais there any way to combine command window and gui window
15:05.35LinuxMafialike command window apear at bottom
15:11.12louipcI can kind of make it look like that with my window manager
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16:00.56LinuxMafialouipc, sorry i was not here , what window manager?
16:01.24louipcI use openbox
16:02.17louipcI can remove window decorations hehe looks pretty neat
16:02.50LinuxMafialouipc, i have it i guess but i need something like kde
16:03.03louipcwhy's that?
16:03.24LinuxMafiakde
16:03.34LinuxMafiais another window manager
16:03.41louipcwell I guess you need something to save window size, position, dimension
16:03.58louipckde is a full desktop environment
16:04.03LinuxMafialouipc, no no i really want to combine them
16:04.06LinuxMafialouipc, yes
16:04.46louipcI'm not a fan of those heh, so I just use a simple window manager
16:05.20LinuxMafialouipc, yeah i am using for my home pc
16:05.34LinuxMafiai know , if i work somewhere i dont need kde
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21:00.10Laniakea``Erik: OpenBSD... any success?
21:13.31LaniakeaGood that you still have those older 7.8.4 etc. files on the sourceforge site so that people who cannot use 7.10.0 can download these.
21:13.34Laniakea(like me)
21:16.48louipcyou can download really old versions can't you?
21:18.12``Eriknot yet, karel, but I committed to configure.ac something that I *THINK* might help
21:36.40Laniakea``Erik: so I should try CVS HEAD again and maybe it will work?
21:39.34``Erikif ya want *shrug* it's a guess on my part, though
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21:56.12``Erikaren't we all?
21:57.20poolioI have a bug where fitness exceeds what is the theoretical maximum, and it takes something like an hour to reproduce ... so I'm having a hard time debugging
21:59.05``Erikthat's where debuggers come in really handy :)
21:59.14``Erikput a conditonal watch on the fitness value
21:59.22``Erikthen explore the program
22:01.23poolio``Erik: well...if it only shows itself after one hour without a debugger...how long is it goign to take with a debugger?
22:02.07``Erikum
22:02.22``Erikabout the same with an extra 'if' when you evaluate fitness?
22:02.41``Erikand you only do it once... then you learn what's going on and fix it... no need to run it over and over and over
22:02.43``Erikand over
22:02.44``Erikand
22:02.44``Erikover
22:02.51pooliowait, what exactly are you saying to do?
22:03.49``Erikrun gdb and type "help condition"?
22:03.56pooliothanks
22:06.36``Erikwhen the expression returns true, the debugger will stop the program and give you a prompt... then you can explore all the variables in the scope, the stack, wlak up frames and look at the variables in all their scopes, evaluate functions right there, ...
22:07.04poolioyeah, I need to learn more about debugging. thanks ``Erik
22:07.17``Erikmight be worth making a 'toy' program to debug to figure out how to use it
22:15.55MinuteElectronDamn LDAP, my puny mind can't take it.
22:16.33``Erikheh
22:16.38``Erikpheer the x509
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23:51.29poolio``Erik: I'm still waiting on gdb to hit the breakpoint :\

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