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| 02:23.30 | IriX64 | this should say Automagically preparing build ... |
| 02:23.50 | IriX64 | just came to see if .2 is out yet? |
| 02:33.16 | brlcad | not quite yet |
| 02:33.21 | brlcad | keep an eye on TODO |
| 02:33.26 | brlcad | that has the releast stoppers in it |
| 02:34.47 | IriX64 | thank you |
| 02:35.41 | brlcad | i've not seen the first issue in a couple weeks so it might be gone, but the second (bezier) needs to be fixed |
| 02:45.29 | IriX64 | beyond my meager talents, couple more cute pix on the blog irix32 blog |
| 02:46.57 | IriX64 | forgot to enable the gui faceplate mode, ahh well |
| 02:56.30 | IriX64 | facelate gui mode uploaded |
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| 04:22.43 | poolio | sage - shape aggregating genetic engine |
| 04:23.15 | poolio | sewage! |
| 04:23.21 | poolio | shape evolution with a genetic engine |
| 04:23.29 | poolio | I like that one |
| 04:23.36 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:24.46 | poolio | brlcad: any favorite names though ;) |
| 04:26.03 | poolio | man. If I was a user and had to make some call to sewage_* I'd chuckle. |
| 04:26.30 | poolio | I could name all the functions arbitrarily |
| 04:26.41 | poolio | sewage_water, sewage_pipe, sewage_raw, etc... |
| 04:27.22 | yukonbob | sewage_backup, sewage_make, sewage_cleanup |
| 04:27.40 | fgleich | um.... |
| 04:27.47 | poolio | it could happen... |
| 04:30.33 | brlcad | hmm.. etoi |
| 04:30.43 | brlcad | explicit to implicit |
| 04:31.05 | poolio | reminds me too much of atoi |
| 04:31.23 | poolio | Doesn't have the same name as sewage. |
| 04:31.26 | poolio | s/name/ring |
| 04:32.30 | brlcad | something a little less filthy perhaps :) |
| 04:33.31 | brlcad | betoiga => ben's explicit to implicit genetic algorithm |
| 04:34.41 | poolio | kind of like jove |
| 04:34.50 | poolio | geez, naming stuff is hard. |
| 04:35.42 | yukonbob | swis (Swis Is Not Sewage) |
| 04:35.44 | brlcad | and nirt => natalie's interactive ray-tracer |
| 04:35.52 | yukonbob | er...sins |
| 04:36.08 | poolio | yukonbob: Haha. we can be like Gnu :) |
| 04:37.25 | yukonbob | :/ ?what does this code do anyway |
| 04:37.44 | poolio | I'm not sure. Something about genetic algorithms and shapes I think |
| 04:37.50 | brlcad | heh |
| 04:38.16 | yukonbob | yagafs (yet another genetic algorithm for shapes) |
| 04:38.41 | poolio | bogart |
| 04:38.43 | brlcad | there aren't that many to warrant yet another just quite yet ;) |
| 04:38.47 | yukonbob | (because there are _so_ many around) |
| 04:38.50 | yukonbob | heh |
| 04:39.18 | yukonbob | fomgafs (first of many...) |
| 04:41.05 | brlcad | the tool takes a given model (ideally something like voxelized or polygonal data) and it searches for ways to match that shape using primitives and CSG operations .. so in effect, converts a model to an implicit representation (from whatever it was) using a genetic algorithm (which is just a fancy name for the way it searches for the matching shapes) |
| 04:41.50 | poolio | bites: ben's implicit to explicit shapeamalizer |
| 04:42.40 | yukonbob | deconstructor |
| 04:43.21 | brlcad | taflttr -- takes a f'ing long time to run ;) |
| 04:43.29 | poolio | that's for sure |
| 04:44.04 | fgleich | YAY ! |
| 04:44.13 | fgleich | It's done |
| 04:44.40 | brlcad | yay for fgleich (just don't ask him to name the tool) ;) |
| 04:44.48 | poolio | purty: purty undoes ray tracing yay |
| 04:45.18 | poolio | s/yay/yourself |
| 04:45.19 | poolio | haha |
| 04:47.14 | poolio | buses: ben's unpredictable shape evolution software |
| 04:47.16 | brlcad | shaper => shape heuristic analysis pattern enhancement recognizer |
| 04:47.23 | poolio | geez |
| 04:47.25 | poolio | big words |
| 04:48.30 | fgleich | It's taking as long to install as it did to compile |
| 04:48.34 | fgleich | lol |
| 04:48.39 | fgleich | almost |
| 04:49.01 | brlcad | lot of tools, libraries, and data |
| 04:49.13 | fgleich | yep |
| 04:49.20 | fgleich | make benchmark ? |
| 04:49.31 | brlcad | did you build optimized? |
| 04:50.36 | fgleich | no |
| 04:51.00 | poolio | uh oh. grab a cup of coffee :) |
| 04:51.24 | fgleich | is that a problem ? |
| 04:51.29 | poolio | brlcad: I'm off for the night. I'll be back on in a couple of hours to code, or maybe just spend all day picking a name ;) |
| 04:51.40 | brlcad | fgleich: no, not a problem -- but the performance wont' be comparable |
| 04:51.53 | brlcad | poolio: coolio |
| 04:52.32 | fgleich | I might rebuild it later with that enabled |
| 04:52.33 | brlcad | beset => ben's evolutionary shape extraction tool |
| 04:52.52 | brlcad | ohh, i like that |
| 04:53.03 | brlcad | ~dict beset |
| 04:53.26 | brlcad | to attack on all sides, quite appropriate |
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| 12:26.42 | poolio_ | mornin |
| 12:42.57 | elite01 | good day |
| 12:52.05 | poolio_ | how are you kin dsir? |
| 12:53.18 | elite01 | i'm fine, thanks |
| 12:53.33 | elite01 | you too? |
| 12:59.17 | poolio_ | dandy. |
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| 13:23.46 | poolio_ | wow guys. browsing the cvs source tree: src/conv has successive folders "jack" and "off" |
| 13:27.57 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 13:27.59 | ``Erik | we're cool like that |
| 13:32.21 | poolio_ | wtf. my fan has some sort of magnet in it and when I set it next to my monitor my monitor goes crazy |
| 13:41.42 | Laniakea | poolio_: does it go crazy also when the fan is not on? |
| 13:42.03 | Laniakea | ``Erik: that's cool |
| 13:47.29 | poolio_ | Laniakea: Just when the fan is on, so I guess it's not a magnet. I moved it further away and now all is well. |
| 13:47.52 | Laniakea | poolio_: fans usually contain a squirrel cage asynchronous motor, that's the magnetic field from the motor |
| 13:49.26 | poolio_ | wow. I need to learn some electronics :) |
| 13:49.55 | poolio_ | The bearing is also messed up and it doesn't spin true |
| 14:33.36 | poolio | uh oh. I broke code that is not mine. |
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| 16:15.43 | thing0 | 13 hours till plane ride |
| 16:15.45 | thing0 | yay! |
| 16:15.48 | thing0 | beb |
| 16:15.51 | thing0 | brb |
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| 16:48.42 | poolio | I forgot I was on a dual core processor and just wasted an hour debugging crap trying to figure out why there was a race condition |
| 16:48.48 | poolio | d'oh. |
| 16:53.09 | poolio | brlcad: do you have any punching bags in the office? |
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| 17:25.41 | thing0 | hey |
| 17:34.28 | poolio | hello mr. thing0 |
| 17:34.40 | thing0 | hello poolio |
| 17:34.55 | thing0 | I fell asleep when you and brlcad were discussing stuff yesterday |
| 17:34.56 | thing0 | ;) |
| 17:37.18 | poolio | names? |
| 17:37.34 | poolio | I think brlcad settled on beset. I'm personally a fan of sewage although that will never make it into CVS :P |
| 17:38.03 | thing0 | ahh |
| 17:40.22 | thing0 | ok |
| 17:40.25 | thing0 | me sleep now |
| 17:40.32 | thing0 | gotta be on a plane in like 11 hours |
| 17:40.33 | thing0 | hehe |
| 17:40.51 | thing0 | got a training course in 7 hours |
| 17:40.52 | thing0 | argh |
| 17:41.01 | thing0 | cya poolio |
| 17:43.09 | poolio | cya |
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| 18:00.28 | poolio | brlcad: if you ever come back I have a question |
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| 19:12.01 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/conv/iges/brlcad_brep.cpp: fix arc generation bug: openNURBS does not interpret "wrapping" angles |
| 19:15.18 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: fix plot routine to now show edge curves better (still needs refinement, e.g. dynamic sampling) |
| 19:17.14 | CIA-4 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_bezier.cpp: debug and fix bezier clipping (case c) - still needs to be cleaned up and more fully debugged |
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| 19:22.04 | IriX64 | brlcad, what the christ is a bezier? :) |
| 19:23.31 | archivist | a curve through control points |
| 19:23.51 | IriX64 | and this code is going to do that |
| 19:25.12 | IriX64 | are you all mathematitions and computer scientists here? |
| 19:27.28 | IriX64 | cant even spell it sigh |
| 19:27.52 | archivist | I dont like to pigeon hole myself |
| 19:28.09 | IriX64 | life does that for you :) |
| 19:28.26 | archivist | no it doesnt |
| 19:28.42 | IriX64 | waits for an explanation |
| 19:29.05 | archivist | I move from programming to electronics to mechanical depends whats needed |
| 19:29.27 | IriX64 | ah i see if you don't like the pigeon hole your in study for another ? |
| 19:30.26 | IriX64 | must needs study another dicipline if you go about doing that |
| 19:31.06 | archivist | self study/ own library |
| 19:31.16 | IriX64 | similar here |
| 19:32.51 | poolio | and here :) |
| 19:33.07 | IriX64 | waves...hey poolio |
| 19:33.30 | IriX64 | got you name chosen |
| 19:34.03 | poolio | not really. Wasted around 4 hours debugging some of my own god-awful code though. |
| 19:34.23 | IriX64 | not a waste if you got it working :) |
| 19:36.14 | poolio | Got it working but now I'm stuck and need someone who knows certain things. *achem* brlcad |
| 19:36.41 | IriX64 | poke him with a pointy stick :) |
| 19:37.29 | poolio | wait. I thought I fixed it. Why is it still segfaulting? |
| 19:37.43 | IriX64 | blame the 6502 ;) |
| 19:38.06 | archivist | hey the 6502 is the original risc micro |
| 19:38.13 | poolio | brlcad: ahoy! |
| 19:39.07 | brlcad | howdy howdy |
| 19:40.19 | brlcad | I didn't settle on beset, you welcome to keep brainstorming something else .. just not sewage :) |
| 19:40.49 | poolio | mannnnnnn |
| 19:40.59 | poolio | beset was cool though |
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| 19:43.10 | IriX64 | archivist: the 6502 was what usually had to be changed in the atari 400 :) |
| 19:47.09 | poolio | brlcad: get my /msg? |
| 19:48.27 | brlcad | ah, yes -- you can |
| 19:49.02 | brlcad | you can reuse the rtip's iirc, but you'll need separate application structures |
| 19:52.06 | poolio | Might you know how? The way I was thinking about doing it was just recreating rtip |
| 19:52.20 | poolio | and re-running rt_prep_parallel |
| 19:53.18 | brlcad | there is a routine for duplicating rtip's too |
| 19:54.12 | poolio | Also, in g_qa it has a new application structure for evert time the object is raytraced, is that the way it works? ie you can't re-use an application structure and change the ray locations? |
| 19:54.34 | poolio | So duplicate the rtip after reading the database but before getting the object tree? |
| 19:54.55 | brlcad | er, that's not quite what I meant |
| 19:55.43 | brlcad | a single application structure is used for shooting all the rays |
| 19:55.57 | poolio | Sorry for all the stupid questions, I'm just trying to learn my way around |
| 19:55.58 | brlcad | you keep updating the a_ray entry |
| 19:56.43 | brlcad | what you'll probably want to do is get a dbip |
| 19:56.54 | brlcad | with basically is a handle on the .g |
| 19:56.57 | poolio | Ok, but if you change the number of rays, can you still use the same applicaton struct? |
| 19:57.17 | brlcad | then for each model you want, extract an rtip from the dbip (using rt_new_rti(dbip)) |
| 19:57.27 | poolio | ah okay |
| 19:57.57 | brlcad | then do an rt_gettree(rtip, "whatever object") to load/prep that object |
| 19:58.05 | brlcad | sorry, just load |
| 19:58.08 | poolio | do I need to run rt_prep_parallel? |
| 19:58.12 | brlcad | you'll need to run rt_prep to prep it |
| 19:58.18 | poolio | alright cool, thanks |
| 19:58.25 | brlcad | yeah, rt_prep_parallel will work too |
| 19:58.46 | brlcad | take a look at g_transfer in src/gtools |
| 19:58.52 | brlcad | it does something very similar |
| 19:58.55 | brlcad | iirc |
| 19:59.02 | poolio | I'm trying to finish the csg->voxel-like format and ray comparison for today, it's being a pain though. and i forgot i had 2 processors so ... |
| 19:59.09 | poolio | ok |
| 20:00.33 | brlcad | so you still thinking up a name? I'd like to get you working off cvs as soon as possible |
| 20:03.21 | poolio | I haven't been thinking much about it, and my code is so awful I don't want to commmit it yet :) |
| 20:04.39 | brlcad | which is all the more reason why you need to be exposing yourself more ;) |
| 20:04.44 | poolio | oh boy. |
| 20:04.51 | brlcad | open source is all about being open through and through ;) |
| 20:04.57 | poolio | I'm fine with beset, I forget what it stood for but the definition fits the program |
| 20:05.26 | poolio | Ejxpose yourself so people will clean you up :) |
| 20:05.53 | brlcad | nah, everyone wants the tools and wants to see them improve |
| 20:06.01 | brlcad | development "cruft" is natural |
| 20:06.09 | brlcad | it's never "done", never "perfect" |
| 20:06.32 | poolio | Yeah, which is why they'll clean you up |
| 20:06.44 | poolio | well...i suppose |
| 20:07.28 | poolio | I think I'm going to just rewrite this csg->voxel/ray comparison stuff again from scratch. Right now I have just slimmed down the g_qa tool and so the structure no longer fits the program |
| 20:07.49 | poolio | also: should I try to keep it multithreaded? |
| 20:08.09 | poolio | well no...parallel |
| 20:09.23 | brlcad | yeah, try hard to keep it parallel |
| 20:09.48 | brlcad | that'll let me test your tool on considerably faster machines |
| 20:10.03 | poolio | ok. that's what messed up my entire morning, I implemented a link list not with BU_LIST and didnt use and semaphores to lock it down and a race condition developed and it kept randomly segfaulting |
| 20:11.01 | brlcad | fun :) |
| 20:12.41 | poolio | alright, so I'm gonna do a major refactoring/rewrite starting now and hopefully it'll all work out :) |
| 20:16.21 | IriX64 | be sure to put a heatsink on the 6502 ;) |
| 20:17.22 | poolio | No heatsink neccesary, it's bathing in mineral oil. |
| 20:17.39 | IriX64 | heh towel dry then :) |
| 20:29.29 | IriX64 | fgleich: howd you make out with your build? |
| 20:40.44 | fgleich | IriX64: It built fine after I installed all the depends |
| 20:41.14 | IriX64 | now you can do that job you were waiting to do :) |
| 20:41.16 | fgleich | trying to figure out what it needed took a little head scratching |
| 20:41.47 | IriX64 | im lucky just type autogen and do what it says ;) |
| 20:42.04 | IriX64 | err +.sh |
| 20:42.26 | fgleich | I did that too |
| 20:43.02 | fgleich | but, some X stuff was missing and it errored out til I installed what it needed |
| 20:44.00 | IriX64 | i see |
| 20:45.56 | fgleich | have you tried opening up the manual from the help menu command ? |
| 20:46.22 | fgleich | I guess the manual is a seperate download ? |
| 20:46.45 | fgleich | brb |
| 20:49.53 | fgleich | back |
| 20:52.02 | fgleich | Are there some environmental things to set, like BRLCADHOME ? |
| 20:57.00 | IriX64 | the manual is in pdf format too at http://brlcad.org |
| 20:57.43 | IriX64 | so are the tutorials (a must) |
| 20:59.23 | IriX64 | btw what version are we talking? |
| 21:01.28 | brlcad | fgleich: no, there aren't any environment variables to set if you installed it correctly |
| 21:03.35 | brlcad | fgleich: the help menu just tries to invoke a web browser on the html docs in the share folder -- you can open them directly too |
| 21:04.09 | IriX64 | and theres always the man pages flgeich |
| 21:04.19 | brlcad | they should be in /usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.10.0/html/ |
| 21:04.29 | brlcad | yeah, good point |
| 21:04.32 | brlcad | loads of man pages |
| 21:06.18 | fgleich | ok thanks :) |
| 21:07.20 | IriX64 | is it still true that if all else fails they can ask in the channel (if they have patience) brlcad? |
| 21:07.49 | poolio | brlcad: Do I need to use the register keyword in my code? Don't most compilers choose what they want to put in the register and ignore register keywords nowadays? |
| 21:08.49 | brlcad | IriX64: of course, always |
| 21:09.02 | IriX64 | there you go fgleich |
| 21:10.27 | brlcad | poolio: they've always just been hints to the compilers |
| 21:10.46 | brlcad | most all of the popular modern compilers still take those hints into account |
| 21:10.58 | poolio | oh alright |
| 21:11.07 | brlcad | you don't have to use them, it's really just annotating variables that are repeatedly/frequently used |
| 21:17.38 | fgleich | thanks IriX64 |
| 21:17.50 | IriX64 | welcome |
| 21:35.31 | IriX64 | elite01: are you the elite01 I know from Efnet (me as warl0ck) ? |
| 21:35.57 | elite01 | IriX64, don't think so |
| 21:36.14 | IriX64 | sorry same nick so i wondered |
| 21:36.17 | elite01 | i'm not at efnet |
| 21:36.30 | IriX64 | haven't been there for over two years |
| 21:36.45 | elite01 | ah |
| 21:37.12 | elite01 | i don't remember ever having been there |
| 21:37.15 | IriX64 | you were building brlcad last time i saw you, get it to go? |
| 21:38.00 | IriX64 | or were you using it? |
| 21:38.19 | elite01 | hmm i once had some trouble building 7.10 |
| 21:38.30 | IriX64 | must be it |
| 21:38.33 | elite01 | but i was using 7.8 before |
| 21:39.09 | IriX64 | i'm still playing with both, sent my yacht out to manufactur last week :P |
| 21:39.40 | elite01 | whoa :) |
| 21:40.03 | IriX64 | now i have to writew some code to pay for it :) |
| 21:40.10 | IriX64 | err write |
| 21:41.00 | elite01 | hehe |
| 21:41.39 | IriX64 | back to work, thanks for the break and sorry about the mistaken identity |
| 21:41.47 | elite01 | nah no problem |
| 21:41.54 | IriX64 | :) |
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| 21:53.27 | IriX64 | urff my systems taken a hit somewhere along the way, both bwish and mged fail to link with tons of undefined xfunctions references |
| 21:53.59 | elite01 | IriX64, ouch |
| 21:54.03 | IriX64 | but 7.8.4 links, cant figure this out |
| 21:54.11 | IriX64 | yeah |
| 21:55.21 | IriX64 | prefer 7.8.4 do you |
| 21:55.39 | elite01 | nah i generally prefer newer versions |
| 21:55.42 | elite01 | if they work :) |
| 21:56.28 | elite01 | psst - what's the price? |
| 21:57.11 | IriX64 | your promise that you never mention me |
| 21:57.48 | elite01 | do i look like i would? |
| 21:58.05 | brlcad | i think IriX64's plan is to just keep complaining about 7.10 until it magically works for him |
| 21:58.23 | elite01 | IriX64, there was a traitor among us |
| 21:58.49 | IriX64 | did *I mention 7.10 |
| 21:58.55 | elite01 | brlcad, well, if it works, i hereby complaina about 7.10 |
| 21:59.09 | IriX64 | now magic should happen ? |
| 21:59.13 | brlcad | arbitrarily changing the version string in configure.ac doesn't make a 7.8.8 real |
| 21:59.18 | elite01 | in thy name of jah! |
| 22:00.14 | elite01 | now, it's what i'd call tomorrow a minute ago |
| 22:00.23 | IriX64 | still going though |
| 22:00.28 | brlcad | elite01: I'm more than happy to investigate and fix any build system problems -- just nobody has provided a failure report that can be looked into |
| 22:00.31 | IriX64 | the compile i mean |
| 22:00.52 | IriX64 | it's *not your problem brlcad |
| 22:01.10 | elite01 | i think 7.10 built fine here once |
| 22:01.15 | IriX64 | see |
| 22:01.40 | IriX64 | what system elite01? |
| 22:02.07 | elite01 | fedora |
| 22:02.27 | IriX64 | sorta the same i guess unix is unix |
| 22:02.33 | IriX64 | well sorta |
| 22:02.47 | elite01 | what've you got? mac os? :D |
| 22:03.04 | IriX64 | cray-ymp :) |
| 22:03.10 | IriX64 | doubles as a furnace |
| 22:03.46 | elite01 | although i have no idea which model ymp is - cray does sound scary :) |
| 22:04.03 | elite01 | they're building amd64 clusters now, aren't they? |
| 22:04.04 | IriX64 | multi processor |
| 22:04.16 | IriX64 | dunno don't keep up |
| 22:04.40 | elite01 | i've sure got smp as well :) |
| 22:05.09 | IriX64 | heh i have a z80 and am trying to build obn cp/m |
| 22:05.15 | IriX64 | on too |
| 22:05.41 | elite01 | and i thought freedos was exotic |
| 22:06.42 | IriX64 | don't want to abandon 7.10 but may have no choice |
| 22:07.32 | elite01 | hm |
| 22:07.44 | IriX64 | brlcad you say you need a report, I ask now is there a chance ill have a proper tkWinDefault.h file any time soon? |
| 22:08.20 | brlcad | IriX64: if it doesn't build, I usually care, even if the platform is the cause .. I've put a lot of effort towards making the build flexible yet functional for as wide a set of environments as possible, given the package complexity |
| 22:08.23 | elite01 | well, i'd rather leave if i don't want to be late tomorrow |
| 22:08.33 | elite01 | see you soon |
| 22:08.41 | IriX64 | see you elite01 |
| 22:09.17 | IriX64 | brlcad I know its not you people im worried about,for instance mention cygwin to the x11 people what will happen? |
| 22:11.14 | IriX64 | i'm forcing a build right now, but whats the point bwish and mged won't function properly becuase of those undefines in them |
| 22:12.03 | IriX64 | force build is so the rest of the exes will be produced. |
| 22:13.25 | brlcad | yeah, but at this point, I don't even have the faintest idea why it does or does not work |
| 22:13.46 | brlcad | i've only heard random ramblings of various things you do and try, no sense of what actually went wrong _first_ |
| 22:13.59 | brlcad | to determine what needs to be fixed/changed, if anything |
| 22:27.15 | IriX64 | ill try again and pastebin the error |
| 22:32.56 | IriX64 | will take a while have to reconfigure with different cflags and remake |
| 22:35.18 | brlcad | and it needs to be with a pristine copy |
| 22:35.33 | brlcad | no modifications, no flags, nothing |
| 22:35.49 | IriX64 | not even bsd i like that code line |
| 22:35.52 | brlcad | from cvs head preferably so changes can be tested |
| 22:36.03 | IriX64 | all right ill play |
| 22:36.49 | brlcad | it really should work as just ./configure && make to at least give you a successful compile and console-mode mged |
| 22:37.00 | IriX64 | i know |
| 22:37.27 | IriX64 | logged in |
| 22:58.05 | IriX64 | sigh..checking out, how, i never checked in :) |
| 23:23.03 | IriX64 | if i dont edit this thing winsock.h is going to conflict with socket.h, sure you don't want any editing? |
| 23:26.28 | IriX64 | put a dnl in front of winsock.h |
| 23:26.55 | IriX64 | touched nothing else |
| 23:30.46 | IriX64 | ill paste the ./configure summary |
| 23:33.58 | brlcad | no editing |
| 23:34.04 | IriX64 | right |
| 23:34.16 | brlcad | that's where things start getting screwy -- if there's a conflict, it needs to be fixed |
| 23:34.45 | IriX64 | whoa wait you mean winsock? |
| 23:34.51 | brlcad | of course |
| 23:36.25 | IriX64 | I... didn't think you would be interested in that one, most systems don't have both |
| 23:36.44 | IriX64 | but ill paste that error too |
| 23:41.17 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/577579 1st problem (says to report it to you :)) |
| 23:45.10 | brlcad | okay, that there is just a warning and benign, but thanks for pointing it out .. i'm more concerned with errors -- where it actually stops compiling |
| 23:45.15 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/577586 summary. should i start make? |
| 23:45.51 | brlcad | sure |
| 23:46.51 | IriX64 | started itll take a bit but the winsock error is first to be hit |
| 23:56.55 | IriX64 | forgot about tkwindefault.h http://www.pastebin.ca/577602 |
| 23:57.11 | IriX64 | shall i apply my patch and continue? |
| 23:58.30 | IriX64 | patch I use is simply to use tkUnixDefault.h, seems to keep it happy |
| 23:58.54 | IriX64 | that file is asked for in default.h in generic if you want to see it |
| 23:59.56 | brlcad | no, just hold it there and i'll poke |