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05:16.10brlcadpython /names
05:16.22brlcadalllrighty then
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07:57.31jack-tarzeau: "ksquirrel" is missing in debian+ubuntu
07:57.37jack-wonder why, its a nice one
07:59.27tarzeaujack-: kde software? i avoid all qt/gtk/kde/gnome software
07:59.28jack-let me know if you think we should "found" #packaging-whores on freenode or so :P
07:59.33jack-yeah, kde stuff
07:59.35jack-ok then
07:59.42tarzeauheh, no but did you look at the debian2fink thing?
07:59.49jack-evolvotron is qt too though ;)
07:59.56tarzeaui wasn't able to build evolvotron
07:59.56jack-but it owns..and yes i did
08:00.01tarzeausome qt exceptions are ok
08:00.07jack-hold on a sec
08:00.16tarzeau++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math '-DEVOLVOTRON_VERSION="0.4.0"' '-DEVOLVOTRON_BUILD="0.4.0 (Build options:  Release)"' -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -pthread -D_REENTRANT  -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -DQT_SHARED -DQT_TABLET_SUPPORT -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 -Imoc/ -o dialog_favourite.o dialog_favourite.cpp
08:00.21tarzeaumutation_parameters.h:269: error: extra qualification 'MutationParameters::' on member 'random_function_stub'
08:00.24tarzeaumutation_parameters.h:280: error: extra qualification 'MutationParameters::' on member 'random_function'
08:00.28tarzeaufunction_node.h:136: error: extra qualification 'FunctionNode::' on member 'stubiterations'
08:00.31tarzeaumutatable_image.h:71: warning: unused parameter 'sinz'
08:00.33tarzeaucan you help?
08:00.51jack-hold on :) and lets do that somewhere else, the brlcad folks will mind
08:00.54jack-one sec
08:02.35jack-come join #packaging-whores
09:05.40CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/src/librt/librt.dsp: Add opennurbs_ext functionality to librt
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10:37.48yukonbobcan anybody give me some direction to finding out what "cut direction" means in the dsp primitive?
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11:14.12producemenchtotal newby here, sorry, is there a staffer available?
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11:24.09producemenchanyone home?
11:24.31producemenchI'm looking to set up my brand new BRL CAD on ubuntu
11:24.39tarzeauhey producemench
11:24.47producemenchHiya
11:24.49tarzeauproducemench: i'm working on making official packages for debian and ubuntu :)
11:24.49producemench:)
11:24.54producemenchyay
11:24.59tarzeauproducemench: you get it to build?
11:25.00producemenchI got a .deb
11:25.06Laniakea_tarzeau: do you use brl-cad or do you just port it for debian?
11:25.26producemenchi don't port or use yet :(
11:25.28tarzeauLaniakea_: i just want to make the package first, once it works, i might even use it! for sure
11:25.35producemenchI just got it from sf
11:25.37tarzeauproducemench: from where got you the deb?
11:25.40tarzeauah that one
11:25.43producemenchyep
11:25.46producemenchno go yet
11:26.07tarzeauk
11:26.22producemenchany idea how to get the first command to work?
11:26.59producemenchI used gdebi to install the package but I don't think it's configured right
11:27.44producemenchtarz?
11:29.00producemenchshould I be at the ubuntu forum?
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11:39.04tarzeaui don't know
11:45.42producemench<PROTECTED>
11:45.58producemenchhehe
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11:49.04producemenchwell, I'll try back when I know more about IRC. Good to meet you tarz. Glad you're out there. :)
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13:13.51CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/include/plot3.h: one more consistency cleanup (__ in header protection of vmath.h)
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13:33.25``Erik*yawn*
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15:02.32thing0hey all
15:02.41thing0how is everyone?
15:06.41tarzeaufine thanks
15:10.08thing0that's good
15:21.03CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/include/config_win.h: proper for-scope in MSVC 6.0
15:26.33CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * 10brlcad/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: evaluate HAVE_DRAND48 before calling drand48
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17:31.29poolioShould I have a looksy?
17:49.29tarzeauare there plans to make a cocoa interface (for mac os x, and maybe gnustep) of brlcad?
17:57.32brlcadtarzeau: you mean a non-X11 interface or do you really mean a *cocoa* api interface
17:58.21brlcadyeah, for non-x11, aquatk is the way to go and my tests here seem to indicate that it might actually (finally) be stable enough
17:58.53brlcadbut i've still not been able to get all of mged up in aquatk without some x11 sneaking in (and crashing mged)
17:59.34brlcadthat is still, howver, the "next step" for mged on mac os x
17:59.34tarzeaubrlcad: yeah i really mean cocoa, NS* interface
17:59.39tarzeaubrlcad: because that'd look so much nicer (on mac os x, and gnustep at least :)
17:59.53tarzeaui know it's wanted a lot, but maybe there's a plan, or someone doing it. who knows?
17:59.59brlcadhm, several folks toyed with the idea and even wrote some initial mock interfaces in cocoa
18:00.31brlcadtarzeau: you do realize that aquatk uses the same look and feel, that's not x11
18:00.33poolioHow bout a _good looking_ x11 interface first ;)
18:00.43``Erikmake tk look good
18:00.46tarzeaupoolio: gnustep works on x11!
18:00.50``Erikthen BRL-CAD will look good :D
18:01.15tarzeaupoolio: http://io.debian.net/~tar/screenshots/emacs.app.png
18:01.54``Erikgnustep is such a pain, though, requiring a modified objC compiler and everything :/
18:01.58pooliotarzeau: yes, is there a point to showing me that?
18:02.10pooliojust install osx86
18:04.41brlcadayam uses aquatk iirc: http://ayam.sourceforge.net/ayam-macosx-aqua2.png
18:07.39jack-heh
18:08.14jack-i'll feed you some x11 screenshots, but no aqua stuff in my brlcad package for now ;)
18:08.25jack-leaving out adrt even saves me from sdl
18:08.31jack-so it's purely x11
18:10.32jack-tarzeau: if you run x11 rootless and use a wm like "OroborX"
18:10.44jack-you have pretty much a real aqua interface at least
18:10.54tarzeauok ok
18:11.10tarzeaui like detachable menus
18:11.25tarzeauit's the feel i like about NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP and their free software gnustep clone
18:11.40jack-yeah
18:11.57jack-afterstep was the first wm i really liked when i started
18:12.09jack-just because of that slight nextstep feel
18:13.57pooliough I hate afterstep, and windowmaker.
18:14.40jack-i wouldnt want to use it anymore, but back then i had fun with it :)
18:15.16tarzeauany of you worked with the original of the company NeXT?
18:15.23jack-yup
18:15.30jack-the so called cubes
18:15.35tarzeauyeah :)
18:15.39jack-company of a friend had 3 of them
18:15.40tarzeaujack-: me too: http://gnu.ethz.ch/www.levenez.com/
18:15.58tarzeaui miss the quality, speed and intuitivness
18:16.14tarzeauopenoffice and mozilla (firefox) are just huge monsters
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18:38.38brlcadtarzeau: mged actually has all the hooks in it for detachables menus too with tk
18:38.43brlcadit's just turned off :)
18:38.48tarzeau:)
18:39.13brlcadhad it on for a couple releases, but bob had some motivation for turning it off eventually
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19:02.18tarzeauhehe ok
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20:19.00CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/include/opennurbs_ext.h: Implement getLeaves and depth support on SurfaceTree for trim preprocessing
20:21.38CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: Finish implementation of preprocess_trims, start implementation on trim support methods (count_intersections), since openNURBS leaves the curve intersection routines unimplemented
20:22.54CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: Add delegate implementations of depth and getLeaves for SurfaceTree
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20:33.27RodGallowGlasshttp://www.pastebin.ca/545645 <---- needs <assert.h>
20:40.57``Erikthanks :)
20:41.21CIA-4BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/conv/iges/brlcad_brep.cpp: missing required header (assert.h)
20:50.28RodGallowGlass:)
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20:50.58RodGallowGlassshall i do a cvs update :P
20:51.40``Erikif you want... that last commit was the assert.h fix... it built through on my fbsd box *shrug* :)
20:51.58``Erikand I grepped the dir for other uses of assert() without assert.h
20:52.20RodGallowGlassgood job, faled to do that herfe, but then i rely on my compiler.
20:52.25RodGallowGlassfailed too
20:53.58``Erikcan't always trust the compiler to be as mean as it should be *shrug* :)
20:54.02RodGallowGlassheh not all gcc's are created equeally
20:54.20RodGallowGlass--mean-mode, i wonder...
20:55.01``Erik../../configure --enable-beat-me-whip-me-make-it-hurt=yes
20:55.04``Erik*cough* O:-)
20:55.09RodGallowGlass:)
20:56.29``Erikunfortunately, the cc test autoconf uses fails if you have CFLAGS="-W -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic" :/
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21:14.44RodGallowGlassif that ones female, you can offer "service" (running away really really fast) :)
21:16.33RodGallowGlassso use -Wl,beat-me-with-reporting-every-possible-condition
21:16.43RodGallowGlass:)
21:16.59RodGallowGlassgotta go mow the lawn.
21:18.14``Eriklater
21:37.43yukonbobcan anybody give me some direction to finding out what "cut direction" means in the dsp primitive?
21:39.28brlcadif you see "cadguy" join, he can tell you ALL about cut directions and all the nitty gritty details of the dsp
21:39.46brlcad(he implemented it)
21:40.00yukonbobsounds good ;)
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21:40.45yukonbobI'm _not_ being impatiant, but have you patched that looping-malloc issue with DSPs?
21:40.57yukonbob*impatient
22:49.26brlcadyukonbob: no, not yet :(
22:52.01brlcadtotally distracted yesterday and today with a task
22:53.00brlcadthe "cut" parameter for dsps is basically telling the ray-tracer what to do between the different cell values
22:53.29brlcadthe default is "ad" for adaptive, which means it'll make a smooth surface, interpolating between the values
22:55.01brlcadone of the others is no interpolation, so you see a lot of flat surfaces for each cell
22:55.06brlcadand I forget what the third one does
22:55.13brlcadso it wasn't that important ;)
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23:10.19producemenchdoes anyone mind helping a newbie configure brl-cad?
23:11.00producemenchI was on yesterday, but I didn't know irc very well. sorry if I annoyed anyone.
23:11.10brlcad./configure --enable-optimized --disable-adrt --disable-jove --prefix=/usr/brlcad && make && sudo make install ;)
23:11.37producemenchthanks a bazillion :))))
23:11.40producemenchciao
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