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| 12:52.00 | gioacchino | hello |
| 12:52.28 | gioacchino | anybody can help me ? |
| 12:52.58 | elite01_ | maybe |
| 12:53.07 | elite01_ | i'm no experts, but there are some here - so, just ask |
| 12:53.18 | elite01_ | i'm not even a single expert |
| 12:53.44 | gioacchino | I use brlcad latest version |
| 12:53.51 | gioacchino | I have a prbolem |
| 12:53.59 | elite01_ | what is it? |
| 12:54.09 | gioacchino | mged> exec fbserv 1 /dev/sgip & |
| 12:54.33 | gioacchino | 7.10 version |
| 12:54.39 | gioacchino | when I run |
| 12:54.42 | gioacchino | mged> exec fbserv 1 /dev/sgip & |
| 12:54.53 | gioacchino | it respond no such file or directory |
| 12:54.59 | gioacchino | how to fix it ? |
| 12:55.15 | elite01_ | is there /dev/sgip? |
| 12:56.00 | gioacchino | I not know |
| 12:56.09 | gioacchino | but i use the user guide... |
| 12:56.29 | elite01_ | just check ls /dev/sgip |
| 12:56.37 | gioacchino | I'm a new bie |
| 12:56.37 | elite01_ | i don't have /dev/sgip - i don't even know what it is |
| 12:56.56 | gioacchino | file:///usr/brlcad/share/brlcad/7.8.4/html/manuals/mged/index.html |
| 12:57.34 | elite01_ | hum i just use file->raytrace and it eeh kind of just works |
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| 13:00.05 | gioacchino | a demand |
| 13:00.35 | gioacchino | qhen you click on window when you see your project |
| 13:01.26 | gioacchino | you can only enlarge or contract ? |
| 13:01.35 | gioacchino | or you can make some action ? |
| 13:01.59 | elite01_ | wait |
| 13:02.10 | elite01_ | what window? the one where rendered stuff is in? |
| 13:02.53 | elite01_ | and what do you mean by "some action"? |
| 13:03.49 | gioacchino | window |
| 13:04.30 | gioacchino | the windows where you se your creation 3d |
| 13:05.10 | elite01_ | ok |
| 13:06.16 | gioacchino | you can do any action |
| 13:06.32 | gioacchino | or you can onbly enlarge and contract image ? |
| 13:06.36 | elite01_ | uuh well i can zoom, resize, move objects, all kinds of stuff |
| 13:06.44 | elite01_ | if i just click in the middle, it zooms |
| 13:06.51 | elite01_ | with shift, it moves the viewport |
| 13:08.33 | gioacchino | hum... |
| 13:08.46 | gioacchino | form command line how to save a project ? |
| 13:09.12 | gioacchino | i try with save but when I reopen the project is black |
| 13:10.58 | gioacchino | mged> exec fbserv |
| 13:10.58 | gioacchino | couldn't execute "fbserv": no such file or directory |
| 13:11.29 | gioacchino | I start brl-cad in is folder... |
| 13:11.39 | gioacchino | and fbserv is in the ls |
| 13:12.13 | elite01_ | uhm you needn't save |
| 13:12.28 | elite01_ | just like mged mystuff.g, close mged, do mged mystuff.g, ls - stuff is there again |
| 13:12.33 | elite01_ | no idea why you don't have fbserv |
| 13:12.38 | elite01_ | maybe you need to make install |
| 13:12.50 | gioacchino | mmm |
| 13:12.53 | gioacchino | I have fbserv |
| 13:12.59 | gioacchino | but exec not see it |
| 13:13.38 | gioacchino | I try with all tool in brl folder and it tell |
| 13:13.46 | gioacchino | no such file for all tool |
| 13:13.49 | elite01_ | i guess they have to be in $PATH |
| 13:14.14 | gioacchino | how to add the brl folder to path ? |
| 13:14.25 | elite01_ | have you done "make install"? |
| 13:14.29 | gioacchino | yes |
| 13:14.54 | elite01_ | hmm should "just work" then - will fbserv do something when you just run it in a sh? |
| 13:15.16 | gioacchino | no |
| 13:15.26 | gioacchino | because it is in a folder not in path |
| 13:15.41 | gioacchino | bash: fbserv: command not found |
| 13:15.47 | elite01_ | shows usage info here |
| 13:15.50 | gioacchino | but if I |
| 13:16.21 | elite01_ | maybe i added it myself |
| 13:16.23 | gioacchino | but if I run /user/brlcad/bin/fbserv it ask a port number |
| 13:16.47 | elite01_ | then just do that :) |
| 13:17.15 | elite01_ | or add /usr/brlcad/bin to the $PATH - looks like that isn't done automatically |
| 13:18.37 | gioacchino | how to add ? |
| 13:19.43 | elite01_ | add a line like "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/brlcad/bin" to your .bashrc or .bash_profile or something like that |
| 13:21.28 | gioacchino | it only add this folder or delete the dther folder ? |
| 13:23.02 | elite01_ | only add that |
| 13:23.07 | gioacchino | ok |
| 13:23.14 | gioacchino | I ass it at the bottom |
| 13:23.48 | elite01_ | yeah |
| 13:25.40 | gioacchino | wath the difference fro,m |
| 13:25.57 | gioacchino | X wondow and OGL window? |
| 13:26.10 | gioacchino | because when I start mged from kde menu' |
| 13:26.22 | gioacchino | it ave all menu' but it use X window |
| 13:26.53 | gioacchino | when I run mged from terminal it not have menu but i can use ogl wondow |
| 13:27.00 | elite01_ | uuh sorry, no idea |
| 13:27.56 | ``Erik | X and OpenGL are two different API's... I usually use /dev/X |
| 13:28.12 | ``Erik | why are you trying to explicitely start an FB server? |
| 13:28.34 | ``Erik | when you run 'rt' in mged, it automatically takes care of all that for you |
| 13:28.46 | gioacchino | I am a new bie |
| 13:29.01 | gioacchino | I try to make the cup of manual |
| 13:29.14 | ``Erik | huh, and they say to run an fbserv? odd |
| 13:29.24 | gioacchino | yes |
| 13:29.36 | gioacchino | fbserv before rt |
| 13:29.49 | ``Erik | um, if you have geometry displayed in your graphical edit window (the line drawing), you can run "rt -F/dev/Xl" |
| 13:30.13 | gioacchino | one question |
| 13:30.17 | ``Erik | -F/dev/Xl translates to set the X device as the framebuffer and linger |
| 13:30.24 | gioacchino | whe I run mged from kde menu |
| 13:30.32 | gioacchino | it have friendly menus |
| 13:30.39 | gioacchino | but it not run opengl |
| 13:30.56 | ``Erik | Chances are that opengl will not buy you anything |
| 13:30.58 | gioacchino | how to run it with opengl from kdemenu ? |
| 13:31.10 | ``Erik | it shows wireframe either way |
| 13:31.21 | elite01_ | uhm need to go for a while, see you later |
| 13:31.34 | ``Erik | they're not visible different... filled triangles is on the todo list (called "shaded geometry" at the moment) |
| 13:31.50 | gioacchino | ha |
| 13:31.59 | gioacchino | X and opengl are the same ? |
| 13:32.07 | ``Erik | yeah, it sucks, we need to fix it, but we're fighting mgmt on it :) |
| 13:32.12 | ``Erik | they look the same at the moment |
| 13:32.21 | ``Erik | they just use different subsystems to draw the lines |
| 13:32.28 | gioacchino | I was thinf opengl most powerfull because my videocard support it strongly |
| 13:32.35 | ``Erik | the OGL display is all glBegin(GL_LINE); |
| 13:32.54 | gioacchino | and how to start with menus from terminal ? |
| 13:32.59 | ``Erik | if we had shaded display, you'd be right... but we're all wireframe at the moment, so it doesn't really matter :( |
| 13:33.20 | ``Erik | the menus? you mean the GUI? you have to add /usr/brlcad/bin to your path, then run "mged" |
| 13:33.50 | gioacchino | I try now |
| 13:34.10 | gioacchino | ok now work |
| 13:34.19 | ``Erik | :) |
| 13:34.46 | gioacchino | before I have use ln -s mged on usr/bin but it start without menu' only the visualization winow |
| 13:35.14 | ``Erik | hum, mebbe it couldn't find the right tcl parts *shrug* |
| 13:35.18 | ``Erik | <-- doesn't know |
| 13:35.30 | gioacchino | mmmmmmm |
| 13:35.39 | ``Erik | but there are ~400 programs in /usr/brlcad/bin and a lot of buttons in the gui just run "programname" |
| 13:35.49 | gioacchino | but if I run mged -n the menus isn't |
| 13:35.55 | ``Erik | so you really do need that directory in the path |
| 13:36.08 | gioacchino | I have add the directory inb the path |
| 13:36.46 | gioacchino | thi is echo $PATH/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/brlcad/bin |
| 13:36.50 | gioacchino | thi is echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/brlcad/bin |
| 13:37.00 | ``Erik | ok |
| 13:37.13 | gioacchino | but if /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/brlcad/bin start mged -n the menus isn't |
| 13:37.20 | ``Erik | except you're echoing it |
| 13:37.22 | ``Erik | not exporting it |
| 13:37.47 | ``Erik | unless I misunderstand |
| 13:37.51 | gioacchino | ok I see bash rc |
| 13:38.13 | gioacchino | export PATH=$PATH:/usr/brlcad/bin |
| 13:38.24 | gioacchino | this is the command on bash.rc |
| 13:38.26 | ``Erik | if it's in your .bashrc, you have to log out and log back in for it to take effect for the menu's... or source it in the term you want to run it from |
| 13:38.38 | gioacchino | ok |
| 13:38.46 | gioacchino | I restart x server and relogin |
| 13:38.51 | gioacchino | see you later |
| 13:38.52 | ``Erik | ok, when you do that |
| 13:38.58 | ``Erik | start up an xterm and run "echo $PATH" |
| 13:39.00 | ``Erik | and make sure it's in there |
| 13:39.01 | ``Erik | ok? |
| 13:39.09 | gioacchino | ok |
| 13:39.17 | ``Erik | see you in a minute :) |
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| 13:40.19 | gioacchino | ok Im ready |
| 13:40.59 | ``Erik | then run mged *shrug* :) |
| 13:41.26 | gioacchino | it work |
| 13:41.34 | gioacchino | mmmmmmmm |
| 13:41.40 | gioacchino | is the -n param |
| 13:41.49 | gioacchino | whats -n ? |
| 13:42.04 | ``Erik | on mged? I've no idea |
| 13:42.17 | gioacchino | I see it on manual |
| 13:42.27 | gioacchino | hem |
| 13:42.34 | gioacchino | when I use -n |
| 13:42.51 | gioacchino | the windows is blue and the menu isn't |
| 13:43.08 | ``Erik | oh, 'n' is a synonym for -c |
| 13:43.09 | ``Erik | classic mode |
| 13:43.12 | ``Erik | you don't want that |
| 13:43.23 | gioacchino | ok... |
| 13:43.36 | gioacchino | the manual isnt wery clear... |
| 13:43.44 | gioacchino | and it work partially... |
| 13:43.54 | gioacchino | I can see anly some page |
| 13:43.57 | gioacchino | other problem |
| 13:44.14 | gioacchino | when I complie I must delete some error from makefile |
| 13:44.21 | gioacchino | esample |
| 13:44.27 | ``Erik | from the 7.10.0 source tarball? |
| 13:44.33 | gioacchino | -Lyes/lib |
| 13:44.46 | gioacchino | I must rewrite in -L/lib |
| 13:44.52 | gioacchino | [15:44] <``Erik> from the 7.10.0 source tarball? yes |
| 13:45.15 | gioacchino | and I must disable ADRT |
| 13:45.22 | ``Erik | can you paste the exact error to, uhhh, pastebin.ca or paste.lisp.org or something? |
| 13:45.29 | gioacchino | because isnt the file main.c and anothe file.c |
| 13:45.47 | gioacchino | this request is too hard.. |
| 13:45.57 | gioacchino | because I had fix it |
| 13:45.59 | gioacchino | I try |
| 13:46.12 | ``Erik | re-extract the tarball in /usr/tmp or something and do it there |
| 13:46.19 | ``Erik | then you can delete it once you paste the error... :) |
| 13:47.53 | gioacchino | no I try it |
| 13:48.04 | gioacchino | more than 10 |
| 13:48.28 | gioacchino | and I had redownload the tar.bz2 archive more than 3 |
| 13:48.38 | ``Erik | O.o odd |
| 13:49.41 | gioacchino | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429282 |
| 13:50.49 | gioacchino | the problem with -Lyes/li to-->- L/lib is very hard!!! |
| 13:51.04 | gioacchino | I must fix more than 150 makefile!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 13:51.12 | ``Erik | hum, I'm sure you don't want to be building jove |
| 13:51.19 | gioacchino | on the src folder and subfolder |
| 13:51.33 | ``Erik | it's an obsolete reduced emacs clone |
| 13:51.36 | gioacchino | I wanth build jove |
| 13:51.44 | gioacchino | but it cause problem in making!!! |
| 13:51.50 | gioacchino | ok |
| 13:52.02 | gioacchino | buth jove isn't hard to fix... |
| 13:52.05 | gioacchino | is only 3 file |
| 13:52.12 | ``Erik | for some reason, you're getting "yes" substituted for "/usr/X11R6" |
| 13:52.33 | ``Erik | ohhh |
| 13:52.34 | ``Erik | hah |
| 13:52.41 | gioacchino | I was think |
| 13:52.48 | ``Erik | ok, you did "--with-x11", which is asking for WHERE your X11 is installed |
| 13:52.55 | gioacchino | yes/lib is = /lib |
| 13:53.05 | gioacchino | and I fix with this |
| 13:53.11 | ``Erik | if your X11 is in a normal place, like "/usr/X11R6", then you don't need to give it that flag |
| 13:53.22 | gioacchino | but I not know if /lib is rigth or wrong |
| 13:53.24 | ``Erik | if you do give it that flag, you have to tell it where, like --with-x11=/usr/Xorg |
| 13:53.28 | gioacchino | but it compile |
| 13:53.51 | gioacchino | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 13:53.59 | gioacchino | I'm very studip!!! |
| 13:54.21 | ``Erik | nah, just not used to the perculiarities of automake |
| 13:54.21 | ``Erik | :) |
| 13:54.38 | ``Erik | that should be fixed, though |
| 13:54.51 | gioacchino | but ./configure --help isn't more clear |
| 13:55.49 | gioacchino | now I remake... |
| 13:56.35 | gioacchino | ADRT support wath do it ? |
| 13:57.33 | ``Erik | I'm sure you don't want adrt at this time... |
| 13:58.15 | gioacchino | ok |
| 13:58.37 | gioacchino | Java Developer Kit support wath is teh advantage ? |
| 13:58.43 | gioacchino | I'm a java programmer |
| 13:58.57 | ``Erik | um, it makes a JNI server thing for raytrace queries |
| 13:59.07 | gioacchino | I can create java program with 3d animation ? |
| 13:59.13 | ``Erik | so you can use librt from java, sorta kinda... |
| 13:59.17 | gioacchino | [15:58] <``Erik> um, it makes a JNI server thing for raytrace queries |
| 13:59.28 | gioacchino | now I don't nedd this ? |
| 13:59.48 | ``Erik | well, for USING the software, no... if you want to program in java using its libraries, maybe |
| 14:00.05 | ``Erik | um, look at src/librtserver for the JNI stuff, that's what the jdk thing enables |
| 14:01.47 | gioacchino | and how to fix |
| 14:01.53 | gioacchino | jove tutotrial ? |
| 14:01.59 | gioacchino | I not need it ? |
| 14:02.05 | gioacchino | and wath jove ? |
| 14:02.07 | ``Erik | no, y ou don't want jove stuff |
| 14:03.15 | ``Erik | in talking to the guy who wrote the java interface, there are several unreleased parts, so the jdk thing won't be useful unless y ou want to write the java infrastructure to support it... (if you do, send us a patch!) |
| 14:04.30 | gioacchino | ok |
| 14:04.40 | gioacchino | I study it |
| 14:04.54 | gioacchino | if I fix it I relase the patch |
| 14:05.00 | gioacchino | another question |
| 14:05.20 | gioacchino | because the makefile of jove is wrong on the official release ? |
| 14:05.55 | ``Erik | yeah, it's probably broken *shrug* none of the developers build jove |
| 14:06.33 | gioacchino | thand on the brl-cad istnt a manual to fix it.. |
| 14:06.37 | gioacchino | is very strange!! |
| 14:06.57 | gioacchino | thank's for helping |
| 14:07.12 | gioacchino | now I'm buildng the fixed configure |
| 14:07.43 | ``Erik | cool beans |
| 14:08.20 | gioacchino | wath a param to start it without asking of tipe of winodw ? |
| 14:08.33 | gioacchino | esample: mged -X |
| 14:08.40 | gioacchino | ot mged -ogl |
| 14:09.05 | ``Erik | if it's asking what type of window, that means you're passing it "-c" (or "-n"), and you don't want that |
| 14:09.21 | gioacchino | ok |
| 14:09.49 | gioacchino | I have maked the benchmark |
| 14:09.55 | gioacchino | my machine is very storng |
| 14:10.02 | ``Erik | how many vgr's? |
| 14:10.16 | gioacchino | Benchmark results indicate an approximate VGR performance metric of 5620 |
| 14:10.21 | gioacchino | I have |
| 14:12.34 | gioacchino | asus p5w dh deluxe + 1GB ram DDR2 800Mhz 4-4-2 + intel core 2 duo E6600 2*2,4GHz 8MB cache +nvidia En6600 silent 512MB ddr2 sse2 + linux kubuntu 7.04 |
| 14:12.44 | gioacchino | wath you bench ? |
| 14:13.34 | gioacchino | * wath's your benchmark ? |
| 14:13.36 | ``Erik | I d'no, lemme go build and run |
| 14:15.49 | gioacchino | you go fast ;) |
| 14:15.59 | gioacchino | the making process in long... |
| 14:17.01 | gioacchino | wath's your OS ? |
| 14:18.29 | ``Erik | bah, my copy is broken |
| 14:18.34 | ``Erik | I usually use FreeBSD and MacoSX |
| 14:18.49 | gioacchino | I use linux Kubuntu |
| 14:18.56 | gioacchino | I have only a problem.. |
| 14:19.29 | gioacchino | My remote remote controller(infrarend similar the TV) not work finly with my release of Linux |
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| 14:22.31 | gioacchino | but all the other work fine |
| 14:23.23 | gioacchino | can you trasfer to me some your brl work ? |
| 14:23.36 | gioacchino | I not need the .g file |
| 14:23.43 | gioacchino | only the image rended |
| 14:23.52 | gioacchino | I dont want modify it |
| 14:23.57 | gioacchino | I want only see |
| 14:25.12 | ``Erik | <-- coder, not a modeller.... there're renders of models on the sourceforge page... |
| 14:26.00 | gioacchino | hum ? |
| 14:26.12 | gioacchino | how to render with mged ?? |
| 14:27.25 | gioacchino | and how to save database.g ? |
| 14:30.00 | gioacchino | because on file menu' |
| 14:30.02 | gioacchino | is only |
| 14:30.07 | gioacchino | open and new |
| 14:30.09 | gioacchino | but no save |
| 14:30.45 | ``Erik | it's automatically saved |
| 14:31.46 | ``Erik | and for rendering, click "file", then "raytrace" |
| 14:32.09 | gioacchino | bvut when I reopen the file.g it is black.. |
| 14:32.17 | gioacchino | the file is void |
| 14:32.44 | ``Erik | to get the objects on the screen, you have to "e" them |
| 14:33.00 | ``Erik | like, if you called your object "foo.s", you have to do "e foo.s" in the command window |
| 14:33.10 | ``Erik | you can do "tops" to see the top level objects in the file |
| 14:36.37 | gioacchino | now I understand -n optio... |
| 14:37.05 | gioacchino | with -n it show the object aoutomatical |
| 14:38.38 | gioacchino | mmmmmmm |
| 14:38.47 | gioacchino | I tri to create the cup but not work... |
| 14:38.59 | gioacchino | on the view windows are black.. |
| 14:39.03 | gioacchino | how to see all ? |
| 14:42.00 | gioacchino | other problem |
| 14:42.24 | gioacchino | whuen I close mged from the x icon it not close close only the window |
| 14:42.31 | gioacchino | I must kill it from pid... |
| 14:43.49 | gioacchino | HOW TO SE ALL ? |
| 14:44.03 | gioacchino | e name.s to see a boject |
| 14:44.09 | gioacchino | how to see all object ? |
| 14:45.03 | ``Erik | e them all up |
| 14:45.14 | ``Erik | or group them all into one toplevel object and e that |
| 14:46.47 | gioacchino | mged>ethem all up ? |
| 14:46.57 | ``Erik | no |
| 14:47.23 | gioacchino | mged>e them all up ? |
| 14:48.05 | ``Erik | when I load up, say, ktank.g (in the examples directory) |
| 14:48.06 | ``Erik | mged> tops |
| 14:48.06 | ``Erik | _GLOBAL computer/ g17/ |
| 14:48.07 | ``Erik | air/ engine/ tank/ |
| 14:48.30 | ``Erik | so I would do mged> e computer g17 air engine tank |
| 14:48.57 | gioacchino | you must remember all name... |
| 14:49.08 | ``Erik | the "tops" command shows you the names |
| 14:50.19 | ``Erik | (a file is not a model, it's a database of models) |
| 14:50.38 | ``Erik | oh, and my vgr's... 22909 |
| 14:50.58 | gioacchino | heeeeeeeeeeee ??????? |
| 14:51.05 | gioacchino | wath your pc ???? |
| 14:51.08 | gioacchino | 8 processor ? |
| 14:51.34 | ``Erik | 8 core opteron |
| 14:51.41 | gioacchino | auz!!! |
| 14:52.05 | gioacchino | your is a workstation processor.. |
| 14:52.10 | ``Erik | I have 3 of those, two 4 core opterons, a 12 core itanium2 (altix), .... |
| 14:52.10 | gioacchino | my is a digital home pc |
| 14:52.17 | ``Erik | oh, I sit at a dual g5 mac |
| 14:52.32 | ``Erik | but I do all my work on other machines... *shrug* |
| 14:54.15 | gioacchino | how to move the image after rendering ? |
| 14:54.25 | ``Erik | huh? |
| 14:54.43 | gioacchino | before rendering I can move and rotare image |
| 14:54.57 | gioacchino | now after the rendering it is blocked... |
| 14:55.15 | ``Erik | well, you should see the wireframe moving... you can click "clear" in the raytrace window |
| 14:55.54 | gioacchino | error could not ezecute fbclear no such file or directori |
| 14:57.15 | gioacchino | but fbc clear is in teh brlcad/bin folder... |
| 14:57.23 | gioacchino | and the folder is in the path... |
| 14:57.35 | gioacchino | because it tell me no such file file ?? |
| 15:01.47 | gioacchino | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.00 | gioacchino | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.27 | gioacchino | How to fix this problem ??? |
| 15:12.51 | gioacchino | mged can't use the other program of suite |
| 15:13.00 | gioacchino | it tell no such file or directnry... |
| 15:13.14 | gioacchino | but the brl folder is in the $PATH |
| 15:15.24 | gioacchino | !help |
| 15:26.18 | gioacchino | i HAVE FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 15:26.29 | gioacchino | before the ecoprting $path |
| 15:26.40 | gioacchino | I have add a link to meged no usr bin folder!! |
| 15:26.48 | gioacchino | now I had remoe it and work!! |
| 15:43.33 | gioacchino | the broblem now is |
| 15:43.47 | gioacchino | when I clear it clear all not only rendering |
| 15:43.55 | gioacchino | and when i run |
| 15:44.02 | gioacchino | e name.s |
| 15:44.21 | gioacchino | i don't see anywhere... |
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| 15:48.50 | gioacchino | anybody online ? |
| 16:02.45 | gioacchino | how to save the rendered image in a image format ? |
| 16:02.47 | gioacchino | esample |
| 16:02.53 | gioacchino | png bmp jepg ecce cc |
| 16:05.30 | ``Erik | -o puts it in a pix file, then use like pix-png |
| 16:15.09 | gioacchino | mged>-o out_file_name.png ?? |
| 16:17.56 | ``Erik | rt -o blah.pix myfile.g obj1 obj2 ... |
| 16:18.05 | ``Erik | meh |
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| 17:23.50 | brlcad | gioacchino: turn the framebuffer off |
| 17:24.11 | brlcad | there's a checkbox on the raytrace control panel that will make the rendered image disappear |
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| 17:56.55 | gioacchino | mm |
| 17:57.49 | gioacchino | ok |
| 17:57.51 | gioacchino | it work |
| 17:59.49 | gioacchino | brlcad: noe a question.. |
| 17:59.57 | gioacchino | if I run mged |
| 18:00.03 | gioacchino | from prompt it work |
| 18:00.30 | gioacchino | but if I run it from kde menu' it work but can't use the other suite tool |
| 18:04.36 | gioacchino | now I try to fix it adding the export path at all bashrc |
| 18:05.12 | IriX64 | can try cd /usr/brlcad/bin too then starting it |
| 18:05.33 | gioacchino | I ahave already try but not work... |
| 18:05.43 | gioacchino | I rejoin at 1 minutes |
| 18:05.46 | gioacchino | bye |
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| 18:09.48 | gioacchino | how to export the rendering in a imga? |
| 18:10.12 | gioacchino | es .bmp .png .jpg ecc ecc |
| 18:11.07 | gioacchino | not work.. |
| 18:11.14 | gioacchino | now I try witrh sh script... |
| 18:11.27 | gioacchino | to start brl from kde panel.. |
| 18:18.44 | IriX64 | mmm works with Xming now |
| 18:22.13 | IriX64 | forgot --prefix though, what the heck my windows now has a \usr dir :) |
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| 18:25.45 | IriX64 | anybody wanna write a little directory utility, since quite obviously exec ls won';t work |
| 18:29.09 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 18:29.21 | smallfoot- | try system ls then |
| 18:31.23 | smallfoot- | system("ls"); |
| 18:31.33 | gioacchino | hello |
| 18:31.38 | IriX64 | there's no ls on windows smallfoot |
| 18:32.04 | IriX64 | mmmmm wait a sec |
| 18:32.29 | smallfoot- | system("dir"); //then :p |
| 18:32.42 | smallfoot- | though, the output is different |
| 18:38.42 | IriX64 | now have an ls but at what cost, 2 more dll'd come into play here sigh |
| 18:38.48 | IriX64 | dll's too |
| 18:40.27 | smallfoot- | :( |
| 18:40.35 | gioacchino | how to export in image extension (jpg, bmp,png,gif ecc ecc) a rendering? |
| 18:43.59 | IriX64 | http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos/windowsside |
| 18:45.20 | IriX64 | gioacchino, try sending it out as a pix and use the conversion tools |
| 18:47.14 | gioacchino | wath the conversion tools ? is in the crl suite ? |
| 18:47.51 | IriX64 | should hacve file called pixtorle and stuff like that |
| 18:49.53 | gioacchino | pixtorle file_name.pix ? |
| 18:50.32 | IriX64 | if you run them without arguments they tell you how to use themselves :) |
| 18:51.16 | gioacchino | gioacchino@server:~$ pixtorle |
| 18:51.16 | gioacchino | bash: pixtorle: command not found |
| 18:51.45 | IriX64 | its in bin i think |
| 18:51.56 | gioacchino | I control on the folder.. |
| 18:52.18 | IriX64 | do an ls pix* |
| 18:52.19 | gioacchino | mmmmmmmmmm |
| 18:52.25 | gioacchino | pix-orle |
| 18:52.29 | gioacchino | not pixtorle |
| 18:52.33 | IriX64 | thats better |
| 18:52.47 | IriX64 | i sorta know :) |
| 18:53.02 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/librtserver/rtserver.c: Fixed a memory leak in rtserver |
| 18:55.29 | gioacchino | but it generate file.rle |
| 18:55.39 | gioacchino | not .bmp , jpg gif ecc ecc |
| 18:56.35 | gioacchino | pix-png i try |
| 18:56.46 | IriX64 | thers a whole suite, i think one for each file type |
| 18:57.17 | IriX64 | http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos pick the windows side |
| 18:59.40 | ``Erik | don't use pix-orle, use pix-png |
| 18:59.55 | gioacchino | my pix pn not work... |
| 18:59.57 | ``Erik | pix-png -a file.pix > file.png |
| 19:00.20 | gioacchino | a��V�u�z�������!���9<.e)�����H�Z��ɒ�1E��Z�@������~`Տ�~���y�G<d�y�+P�l�裪� |
| 19:00.21 | gioacchino | it write tihs |
| 19:00.23 | ``Erik | yes, it outputs the png to stdout, cuz it's stupid |
| 19:00.30 | gioacchino | and not createfile.. |
| 19:00.31 | ``Erik | redirect into a file, like I just showed you |
| 19:00.46 | gioacchino | ok |
| 19:00.58 | ``Erik | (that's on my short hit-list of things to fix) |
| 19:00.59 | IriX64 | thanks ``Erik |
| 19:01.23 | gioacchino | gioacchino@server:~$ pix-png -a prova.pix > prova.png |
| 19:01.23 | gioacchino | pix-png: unable to autosize |
| 19:01.24 | IriX64 | :) |
| 19:01.58 | ``Erik | I mean, um, normalize the interface set to a synergistic uniform something something BUZZWORD BINGO |
| 19:02.11 | gioacchino | the outpout isn't a sphere... |
| 19:02.32 | ``Erik | "unable to autosize"? hum, take away the -a and see if it works? how big is the file? O.o |
| 19:03.16 | ``Erik | pix-png kinda expects a square file with the edges being a power of two iirc (256x256, 512x512, 1024x1024...) |
| 19:03.54 | gioacchino | it not tell me anithing but the result is not a sphere is a confuse image I try with a new render... |
| 19:04.16 | IriX64 | like rt -s 512 ``Erik? |
| 19:04.38 | gioacchino | not work... |
| 19:04.55 | gioacchino | it genereted a bad confused image... |
| 19:05.25 | smallfoot- | IriX64: http://rafb.net/p/emOqx494.html |
| 19:05.57 | smallfoot- | IriX64, i found this code on the internets it can list files in the direcotry and stuff like that what you said its like "ls" or "dir" |
| 19:06.30 | brlcad | IriX64: a cd to whatever path only works when "." is in your path (which it should not be for various reasons) .. better to just type the full path if you want to be sure (e.g. /usr/brlcad/bin/mged) |
| 19:07.05 | brlcad | gioacchino: to export a rendered image, you raytrace to a .pix file, and then use one of the pix-* converters (e.g. pix-png file.pix > file.png) |
| 19:07.21 | gioacchino | yes I use this mecanism... |
| 19:07.27 | gioacchino | but it generated |
| 19:07.34 | gioacchino | bud confused image... |
| 19:07.52 | brlcad | pix are raw image files |
| 19:08.01 | brlcad | so if it's not a 512x512 image, you MUST specify the image dimensions |
| 19:08.37 | brlcad | -a if you use standard sizes, but I imagine you used the raytrace control panel |
| 19:08.44 | brlcad | which will be whatever size your window was |
| 19:08.54 | gioacchino | yes I use raytrace control panel |
| 19:09.06 | brlcad | you see the size in the raytrace control panel? |
| 19:09.27 | gioacchino | yes |
| 19:09.30 | gioacchino | now work! |
| 19:09.32 | gioacchino | tanks |
| 19:09.37 | brlcad | type just 'pix-png' with no arguments and you'll see: |
| 19:09.38 | brlcad | Usage: pix-png [-a] [-w file_width] [-n file_height] [-s square_file_size] [file.pix] |
| 19:09.58 | brlcad | so pix-png -w WIDTH -n HEIGHT file.pix > file.png |
| 19:10.01 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.06 | ``Erik | s/^ // |
| 19:11.56 | gioacchino | brlcad: hot to obtain more quality ?? |
| 19:12.03 | gioacchino | I use max resolutio |
| 19:12.06 | gioacchino | 1024*1024 |
| 19:12.16 | gioacchino | but I want more quality |
| 19:12.33 | brlcad | gioacchino: run rt directly on the mged command line |
| 19:12.50 | brlcad | rt -s2345 -o somefile.pix |
| 19:12.58 | brlcad | that will make a 2345x2345 image |
| 19:13.02 | brlcad | saved to somefile.pix |
| 19:13.07 | gioacchino | this is the max ? |
| 19:13.11 | brlcad | noo |
| 19:13.17 | gioacchino | ok |
| 19:13.19 | brlcad | s/2345/whatever you want/ |
| 19:13.22 | gioacchino | ok |
| 19:13.37 | brlcad | might not like going over 16000 .. been a while since I tested the upper limit |
| 19:13.40 | gioacchino | I must run rt form mged>terminal... |
| 19:13.51 | brlcad | you don't have to run rt from mged prompt |
| 19:13.54 | brlcad | you can run it outside |
| 19:14.01 | brlcad | but then you need to specify what view you want |
| 19:15.42 | gioacchino[away] | tanks |
| 19:15.53 | gioacchino[away] | I go ate |
| 19:15.54 | brlcad | cierto |
| 19:16.01 | brlcad | ciao |
| 19:16.11 | gioacchino[away] | sei italiano ? |
| 19:16.16 | brlcad | un po |
| 19:16.20 | gioacchino[away] | vado a cena :) |
| 19:16.24 | gioacchino[away] | che piacere!! |
| 19:16.35 | gioacchino[away] | comuqneu ora mi allontano torno dopo |
| 19:16.39 | brlcad | igualmente |
| 19:18.05 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.11 | IriX64 | smallfoot thankyou, had to call scanit scanit2 though scanit already exists :) |
| 19:18.40 | IriX64 | let me drop it in and try.. |
| 19:19.19 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: Add the TK cpp flags to the if_tk compile |
| 19:20.03 | CIA-22 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_tk.c: PhotoPutBlock seems to take the interpreter as the first arg now? |
| 19:21.52 | IriX64 | mged> exec opendir |
| 19:21.52 | IriX64 | Error: usage: opendir dirname |
| 19:21.52 | IriX64 | child process exited abnormally |
| 19:21.53 | IriX64 | mged> |
| 19:22.07 | IriX64 | heh thanks |
| 19:22.45 | IriX64 | should have used pastebin, forgive. |
| 19:25.50 | IriX64 | http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos <--- the windows side is of interest |
| 19:28.19 | brlcad | IriX64: is the exec opendir supposed to convey something? |
| 19:28.58 | brlcad | that's an external tool, and probably one you wouldn't want/need to run from mged at that |
| 19:31.11 | brlcad | ``Erik: hey, you wanna take a stab at the tcl/tk upgrade? |
| 19:31.35 | brlcad | a6 just came out a few days ago, massive aqua tk fixes |
| 19:32.10 | brlcad | best to pull from cvs though, according to daniel (aqua tk dev), to pick up a build bug fix |
| 19:32.16 | ``Erik | heh, uh, no? :D |
| 19:32.31 | brlcad | fair nuff |
| 19:32.37 | ``Erik | I just want the damn thing to build... I have linux chased down to a runtime link error in db/ |
| 19:33.05 | ``Erik | fbsd has a multiple definition error for tk_close in bwish |
| 19:33.05 | brlcad | you have build issues? I've got good builds everywhere |
| 19:33.10 | brlcad | oh, i hadn't tested tim's latest stuff |
| 19:33.19 | ``Erik | I have breakage on leenewx and fbsd, jra reported issue on linux |
| 19:33.28 | ``Erik | tim's fault? got a tar arn I can borrow? |
| 19:34.07 | brlcad | he removed the tcl/tk --disable-shared from their configure, causes a variety of tcl/tk symbols on a couple plats |
| 19:34.21 | brlcad | that's probably the tk_close issue |
| 19:34.40 | ``Erik | and he's awfully idle |
| 19:34.42 | brlcad | s/symbols/duplicate symbols/ |
| 19:35.17 | ``Erik | oh, I made an obsd 7.10.0 build for clock (without brep) |
| 19:35.28 | clock_ | ``Erik: how? |
| 19:40.11 | smallfoot- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A |
| 19:40.59 | smallfoot- | IriX64, that program in pastebin dont work? |
| 20:07.24 | IriX64 | smallfoot: it works fine thanks, that abnormal exit is due to mged i think |
| 20:07.32 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 20:07.50 | IriX64 | err wait |
| 20:09.41 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/2eYE1B66.html |
| 20:09.52 | IriX64 | not quite sure whats going on here |
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| 20:11.14 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/5IexEY90.html |
| 20:11.26 | IriX64 | works thanks for your contribution :) |
| 20:11.53 | IriX64 | why two passes? |
| 20:14.46 | ``Erik | what's "opendir"? you have an "opendir.exe" file? O.o |
| 20:15.49 | IriX64 | smallfoots contribution to the effort. |
| 20:15.59 | ``Erik | oookie, :) |
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| 20:16.33 | IriX64 | works |
| 20:18.28 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/YSKJp738.html <---- smallfoot lets have a belly laff :) |
| 20:19.00 | IriX64 | thats the way it should always be with dos :) |
| 20:20.13 | IriX64 | if you set your path right, you can exec anything on the system. |
| 20:20.36 | smallfoot- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqLvBUSJucg&mode=related&search= |
| 20:20.57 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 20:22.00 | IriX64 | :) |
| 20:23.51 | IriX64 | http://rafb.net/p/KmYWpf81.html <--- works smallfoot |
| 20:24.51 | IriX64 | smallfoot if i ever give this stuff out may i include your exe? |
| 20:30.05 | smallfoot- | it wasntmy exe |
| 20:30.08 | smallfoot- | i found that on google lol |
| 20:30.27 | IriX64 | ;) thankyou for finding it |
| 20:30.30 | smallfoot- | np |
| 20:30.45 | smallfoot- | actually, i tried some code todo an own, but it wouldnt work, so i was like argh, and googled instead lol |
| 20:30.59 | smallfoot- | so if you release it, then clean it up, obscure it, and change the names of variables, and style and stuff like that lol :p |
| 20:31.24 | IriX64 | you found it it's yours :) |
| 20:31.28 | smallfoot- | hehe |
| 20:31.37 | smallfoot- | yeah, i found it, because you wanted it |
| 20:31.39 | smallfoot- | but its really simple code |
| 20:31.54 | IriX64 | i know but i'm lazy |
| 20:32.14 | ``Erik | O.o stealin' code ain't cool |
| 20:32.34 | IriX64 | was going to modify a disk scanner program but this is better |
| 20:33.33 | IriX64 | going to include ls too thought what the hay 2 dll's |
| 20:35.56 | IriX64 | if it's on google, it's not stealin ``Erik |
| 20:35.56 | ``Erik | heh |
| 20:35.57 | ``Erik | that's like saying that copying something out of the library and claiming you wrote it isn't plaigerism |
| 20:36.05 | IriX64 | who's gonna claim they wrote it i'll gladly give proper credit |
| 20:36.07 | ``Erik | almost all my code is open source, on the internet, findable by google... but I still hold the copyright and get highly upset when people "change some variables" and claim they wrote it *shrug* |
| 20:36.07 | IriX64 | and distribute source if they allow it |
| 20:36.08 | ``Erik | and I've had tht happen to my software before... |
| 20:36.19 | smallfoot- | its not stealing code, its reusing code :p |
| 20:36.26 | smallfoot- | its like 10 lines of code or what? |
| 20:36.38 | smallfoot- | and its all call to standard functions, its like the only way todo it |
| 20:36.42 | IriX64 | changed nothing but what was needed to make it work here, still does and always will 2 pasess |
| 20:36.42 | ``Erik | on the flip side, my code has been incorporated into neat stuff like "icecast" and a "electronic picture" device, they credited me, and it's totally awesome that people are using my code |
| 20:37.18 | IriX64 | ty |
| 20:37.23 | ``Erik | if'n ya find code, it doesn't matter how trivial it is, respect the license and copyright o.O |
| 20:37.38 | IriX64 | of course, I always try to |
| 20:38.06 | ``Erik | <-- mostly going off because of "04:30PM <smallfoot-> so if you release it, then clean it up, obscure it, and change the names of variables, and style and stuff like that lol :p" |
| 20:38.55 | IriX64 | I understand ``Erik. |
| 20:40.35 | IriX64 | how did i get two copies of mged up? :) |
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| 20:41.04 | smallfoot- | aff, got disconnected |
| 20:41.10 | ``Erik | guess you could run it twice, but may get fb conflicts? why would you want to? O.o |
| 20:41.21 | smallfoot- | one time i wrote a database engine, that i based of hello_world.c and SCO sued me :( |
| 20:42.08 | ``Erik | sco'll be delisted soon, then they'll just disappear O.o |
| 20:42.15 | ``Erik | post-love caldera really sucks monkey balls |
| 20:42.15 | brlcad | you can run multiple mged's concern-free -- fb's are allocated sequentially |
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| 21:17.57 | IriX64 | it was an accident :) |
| 21:24.23 | IriX64 | if_tk.c in libfb (tk_close) conflicts with same in dm-tk.c in libdm |
| 21:24.35 | IriX64 | . |
| 21:26.38 | IriX64 | renamed mine in libfb to tkk_close just to get a compile, looks happy so far. |
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| 22:25.01 | IriX64 | just what in samhill is ssampview.exe? |
| 22:25.28 | IriX64 | in src/rttherm |
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| 22:33.39 | ``Erik | viewer for ssamp files |
| 22:34.05 | ``Erik | man rttherm |
| 22:51.23 | IriX64 | ty |
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