IRC log for #brlcad on 20070429

00:01.54IriX64this is for the birds, would be asier to re-visit xming i think.
00:02.02IriX64easier too.
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01:31.37CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/conv/g-dxf.c:
01:31.37CIA-22BRL-CAD: Was ignoring return code from db_dirbuild(), allowing execution on currupt files.
01:31.37CIA-22BRL-CAD: Calls to db_dirbuild should always have the return code checked, There are many
01:31.37CIA-22BRL-CAD: instances where this is not done (mostly in the "conv" directory).
02:05.44CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/conv/ (16 files): Added check of return value from db_dirbuild()
02:07.02brlcadwoot
02:10.47CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/conv/ (iges/g-iges.c jack/g-jack.c): Added check of return of db_dirbuild()
02:17.25CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03johnranderson * 10brlcad/src/conv/off/g-off.c: Added check of return of db_dirbuild()
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02:29.36dli_/var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-9999/work/brlcad/src/conv/.libs/lt-asc2g: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
02:31.09IriX64should be in brlcad/lib no?
02:31.39dli_IriX64, it's a compiling error
02:32.24IriX64but its looking for the .so file check .libs in tcl dir
02:33.02IriX64tcl built if you're up to conv
02:35.17dli_brlcad-cvs building error: http://pastebin.ca/463733
02:38.01IriX64what the heck it did 3 ok why sphflake?
02:38.55IriX64maybe libtcl8.5.so ran away from home :P
02:39.37brlcaddli_: k, thx... due to a recent change that builds libtcl shared instead of static, so libtool fails to look in the tcl build dir
02:40.17IriX64my system is weird i can only go by what i know, if you want real help talk to these guys.
02:42.46brlcadthere's supposed to be a fix in configure that compensates, but apparently not working for you
02:44.44dli_brlcad, any option to pass to configure?
02:48.39brlcaddli_: you mean as a long term fix or short term fix?
02:49.13brlcadlong term, it should work as is .. have to figure out what else is needed to make it work
02:49.20brlcadshort term, you can just build static
02:49.33brlcadfor gentoo integration, that certainly won't fly though
02:49.49dli_brlcad, it's an error from buidling bench, I'm trying " --disable-bench ", now
02:50.14brlcadthat won't work :)
02:50.30brlcadbench is just a minimal subset .. and that entire subset is required
02:50.33dli_brlcad, then, I will just wait :)
02:52.10brlcaddli_: another short-term patch -- try adding --disable-shared to the line in configure.ac that says:  ac_configure_args="$ac_configure_args --enable-symbols"
02:52.20brlcadit's near the end of the file
02:52.46dli_brlcad, sounds nasty to me
02:52.56brlcadit's a one-line edit
02:53.22brlcadheck, you can run this to do it for you:
02:54.12brlcadperl -pi -e 's/enable-symbols/enable-symbols --disable-shared/' configure.ac
02:54.30brlcadthen re-run ./autogen.sh and configure/compile normally
02:54.52dli_brlcad, okay, I will add this line with comment, " short term fix"
02:55.04brlcadi mean just to test
02:55.30brlcadfor portage integration, there's still the other things we talked about that need to get fixed
02:56.31dli_brlcad, okay, I will use tell you how the change works
02:56.50brlcadthanks
03:20.48dli_brlcad, no, doesn't help,    ac_configure_args="$ac_configure_args --enable-symbols --disable-shared"
03:21.11dli_/var/tmp/portage/sci-misc/brlcad-9999/work/brlcad/src/conv/.libs/lt-asc2g: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
03:31.54brlcader, something's not right or not a clean build
03:32.27brlcadit's not going to use libtcl8.5.so _at_all_ with --disable-shared
03:33.23dli_brlcad, couldn't be, portage always creates new folder for building
03:39.49brlcadsomehow that wasn't a sufficient edit then
03:49.53smallfoot-brlcad, when will binary win32 release be made?
03:52.30brlcadsmallfoot-: it's all hinging on these last couple remaining build issues in 7.10.1
03:52.38brlcadhopefully early may
03:54.04smallfoot-okie cool
03:54.14smallfoot-build issues?
04:18.53IriX64has to build on my system smallfoot :P
04:25.34brlcadsmallfoot-: dealing with the new tcl/tk and finding scripting resources at run-time are the two issues that need resolving
04:26.41IriX64brlcad: could activestates windows tcl/tk be used, i have successfully installed those in the past.
04:31.31smallfoot-oh
04:32.33IriX64smallfoot, I'm kidding about building on my system :)
04:33.10smallfoot-oh
04:33.46brlcadIriX64: yes, it's sort of required at the moment if you're building the full binary distribution on Windows
04:34.36IriX64maybe ill re-install them then
04:35.30IriX64could happen
06:02.27CIA-22BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: fix recursive configure support for when the recursion goes more than one level deep. add more documentation on example use and vars that can be overridden.
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16:06.52elite01hi
16:07.35elite01why won't puts [expr {1+1}] work in that mged shell?
16:08.14elite01i need to create 80 objects, all aligned in a grid, and want to use 2 for loops for that
16:08.25elite01so i even read the first bits of some tcl tutorial
16:08.30elite01but stuff doesn't really work :/
16:08.46elite01is brlcad's tcl interpreted heavily broken or is it just me?
16:11.58bjorkBSDelite01, doesn't that need a 'puts'?
16:11.59bjorkBSDor something to feed it into?
16:12.23elite01yeah i just tried puts [expr {1+1}]
16:12.31bjorkBSDand it didn't like that?
16:12.31elite01works in tclsh but doesn't in mged :(
16:12.49elite01"Error: extra characters after close-brace"
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16:12.51bjorkBSDoh i just noticed. you did have a puts.
16:13.05bjorkBSDworks here man.
16:13.11bjorkBSDmged> puts [expr {1+1}]
16:13.12bjorkBSD2
16:13.12bjorkBSDmged>  
16:13.26elite01expr 1+1 also works
16:13.28elite01umpf
16:13.34elite01*restarts mged*
16:14.01elite01aah ouch that does hurt
16:14.07elite01well works now
16:14.23elite01looks like i was typing in some expression all the time
16:14.23bjorkBSDwhat was causing the error?
16:14.33elite01at least i guess so
16:14.51elite01well thanks
16:14.51bjorkBSDwhich version of brlcad are you using?
16:15.05elite017.8.4
16:15.13bjorkBSDsee topic.
16:15.23elite01hm too lazy to update
16:15.26elite01as i said, it works now
16:15.36elite01and i promise i will update tomorrow or so
16:15.39elite01:D
16:15.47bjorkBSDthat's fine.
16:15.57bjorkBSDwhat you're using might be adequate for your needs.
16:16.07elite01my needs are really low
16:16.54bjorkBSDdesign of WMDs huh?
16:17.40elite01yeah, don't need too much precision there :)
16:17.45bjorkBSDnah :-j
16:17.53bjorkBSDthey're disposable items.
16:18.09elite01haha
16:23.50elite01bjorkBSD, still there?
16:24.08bjorkBSDno.
16:24.10elite01is "in" supposed to work in a for loop?
16:24.20brlcadelite01: mged shell operates in "glob compatibility mode" by default
16:24.41brlcadyou have to turn on tcl evaluation, or escape the glob characters
16:25.33brlcadi.e. if you want to list all regions in a geometry database, you might "ls *.r" .. tcl has no globbing concept to know what to do with * by default, but mged's shell does
16:25.52elite01ok
16:26.02elite01but * and ? is the only globbing isn't it?
16:26.20brlcadchanging the interpreter mode is pretty simple, it's on the File menu under Tcl Evaluation or you can "set glob_compat_mode" to 0 or 1 to turn it on/off
16:26.29brlcadno, [] are glob chars too
16:26.48elite01aah
16:26.50brlcadhence why puts [expr {1+1}] doesn't work.. that's a character glob set
16:27.01brlcade.g. ls [a-f]*.d
16:27.03elite01ouch :)
16:27.21brlcadsomething like puts \[expr {1+1]\] should work
16:27.31brlcader, typo in there
16:27.38brlcadbut you get the idea
16:27.44brlcadforget what the other glob chars are
16:28.15elite01hmm still doesn't explain why that for loop won't work
16:28.17brlcadif you don't need/want globbing and just want regular tcl shell behavior, you can set glob_compat_mode 0 and it should evaluate
16:28.19elite01wait a miinute
16:29.27elite01http://nopaste.php-q.net/291936 if you'd be so nice to have a look at it
16:29.42elite01coordinates are a bit broken - but the prompt at the end is strange
16:30.55elite01globbing doesn't change it
16:34.19brlcadokay, two issues
16:34.53brlcadone, the linebreaks are significant, particularly to the 'in' command (this holds true for regular tcl shell too)
16:35.01brlcadthat's why it prompts
16:35.06elite01aah
16:35.30elite01so i need to use a few \es
16:35.31brlcadsecond, you probably need to evaluate the command so that the string is expanded
16:35.51brlcadtry, http://pastebin.ca/464602
16:36.33elite01nice, that works!
16:36.35elite01thanks :)
16:36.39brlcadalsok, you're basically creating a pattern that has no transformation, the pattern tool can do that for you too
16:36.52brlcadyw
16:36.55elite01no transformation?
16:37.11brlcadyou're creating a bunch of boxes
16:37.12elite01just a few buttons... like on a telephone or the right side of a keyboard
16:37.49bjorkBSDthe numeric keypad
16:37.54brlcadthat's what I mean, you're making a pattern of objects -- the pattern tool (on the Tools) menu will do this for you fairly easily
16:37.55elite01yes, that one
16:38.02bjorkBSDthey're both keypads ;)
16:38.02elite01ok, thanks again
16:38.18brlcadno problem
16:38.41brlcadand if I'd get around to finish upgrading the clone command, that would do exactly what you're doing with one line ;)
16:38.51brlcadbut it only works for v4 databases at the moment still
16:39.28elite01sounds nice
16:39.44brlcadit's awesome :)
16:42.16brlcadsomething like "clone -i 1 -n 36 -t 10 0 0 -a 6 0 10 0 keypad.btn" would do that entire keypad with all the corresponding translations
16:43.23elite01oook :)
16:43.24brlcadincrement by 1, create 36 copies, translate each by 10 along x and create a new row after every 6
16:44.07brlcadmaybe -a 6 -60 10 0 to reset to the same grid x coord
16:45.06elite01just tell people how to use it :)
16:45.33brlcadit's got integrated help and everything, but yeah -- it's actually one of the easiest and powerful replication interfaces
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17:01.28elite01eek everything's spinning
17:02.16elite01ha! killed it! :)
17:12.48elite01ok, need to bug you again - how do i use the pattern tool? some documentation somewhere>
17:36.19elite01ok seems to kind of work :)
17:36.23brlcadthe documentation on the website covers the pattern tool
17:36.29brlcadvol III iirc
17:36.41brlcadyou stop the spinning with the "0"
17:36.49elite01yup
17:37.02brlcadpressing xyzXYZ in the graphics window sends it spinning
17:37.14elite01what a nice keypad :)
17:37.49brlcadhave to run out, but a screenshot would be nifty ;)
17:39.33elite01http://pastehere.com/?mguetc
17:40.06elite01maybe not a 100% photorealistic - but as i said... requirements are low :)
17:56.46IriX64even the default font... ouch
17:57.40elite01pff
17:58.13elite01now - i want a big region out of those many buttons - like r buttons u glob_aint_work_* :/
17:58.23elite01because i'd need an u in front of each button
17:58.30elite01now, what to do?
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