| 01:21.05 | IriX32 | K-tank delivered (sorta) |
| 01:22.32 | IriX32 | photo-shop is really hard ;) |
| 01:22.32 | deltazap | brlcad: quick question, how i can i change the name of a region or primative and all references |
| 01:32.46 | brlcad | erm |
| 01:33.05 | brlcad | there's a command for that.. what's it called.. think it's on the cheat sheet |
| 01:33.10 | deltazap | looking... |
| 01:33.12 | brlcad | mebbie mvall |
| 01:33.30 | deltazap | ah, ok |
| 02:08.47 | CIA-14 | libIRC: 03brlcad * 10CVSROOT/ (disabled checkoutlist): libirc is now migrated over to svn. disable access to everything except to CVSROOT. |
| 02:09.03 | IriX32 | i stupidly thought windows gl would not be picked up. |
| 02:09.21 | IriX32 | your check works :) |
| 02:09.43 | IriX32 | gives me grief with if_wgl.c tho |
| 02:09.54 | IriX32 | so hard coded it off for now |
| 02:10.08 | brlcad | should work of course |
| 02:10.13 | IriX32 | should |
| 02:11.09 | CIA-14 | libIRC: 03brlcad * 10libirc/COPYING: LGPL, test commit |
| 02:12.03 | IriX32 | its in libfb |
| 02:14.43 | CIA-14 | libIRC: 03brlcad * 10CVSROOT/ (avail checkoutlist disabled): oop, file needs to actually be named avail |
| 02:15.49 | CIA-14 | libIRC: 03brlcad * 10libirc/README: test commit |
| 02:16.13 | IriX32 | that was intended for the civilians like me sir :) |
| 02:18.18 | IriX32 | http://pastebin.ca/449168 <--- this one however is just a warning but still... |
| 02:23.38 | brlcad | spurious |
| 02:24.32 | IriX32 | serious :) |
| 02:29.42 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/pkgconfig/ (11 files): quell spurious/bogus warning about datarootdir being ignored |
| 02:40.26 | IriX32 | http://pastebin.ca/449200 < --will this work, not worried about JavaVM at the moment. |
| 02:40.31 | deltazap | brlcad: will a projection project around a curved surface? |
| 02:45.14 | *** join/#brlcad dli (n=dli@adsl-75-34-2-126.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:46.54 | dli | cvs problem, after ./autogen.sh, ./configure found missing Makefile.in |
| 02:47.47 | brlcad | dli: cvs -q update -dP |
| 02:47.49 | IriX32 | forgot fi sorry guys |
| 02:47.58 | brlcad | check for conflicts if you had an existing checkout |
| 02:48.06 | brlcad | deltazap: sure |
| 02:48.52 | dli | IriX32, yes, I removed the original folder, doesn't help |
| 02:49.19 | IriX32 | uh which makefile.in is missing |
| 02:50.32 | brlcad | usually implies either need an cvs update -dP or there's a line missing from configure.ac to generate the Makefile.in |
| 02:51.11 | IriX32 | try ./autogen.sh --verbose |
| 03:20.37 | IriX32 | the things i then do to myself/ |
| 03:25.05 | dli | IriX32, works? |
| 03:25.42 | IriX32 | which? |
| 03:25.55 | IriX32 | got several things happening here. |
| 03:26.20 | dli | missing Makefile.in from cvs |
| 03:27.51 | IriX32 | man cvs does not provide makefile.in's |
| 03:28.04 | IriX32 | generated by autogen |
| 03:28.14 | IriX32 | thats why the --verbose switch |
| 03:35.22 | IriX32 | know your system :) |
| 03:37.30 | IriX32 | heh it woulda worked if i had jni.h ;) |
| 03:43.55 | deltazap | brlcad: if you want to take a look at the challenge for tomorrow, it's up at http://zap.bonzoesc.net/brlcad/challenge.zip |
| 03:44.11 | deltazap | good luck ;) and no cheating by converting the pix files :P |
| 03:44.13 | dli | IriX32, thanks:) |
| 03:44.29 | IriX32 | dli welcome |
| 03:45.42 | IriX32 | btw dli, i'm no expert, just the resident comic :) |
| 03:46.00 | IriX32 | i think ;) |
| 03:48.13 | IriX32 | my presence here goes unnoticed |
| 03:50.14 | dli | cvs -z3 -d ":pserver:anonymous@brlcad.cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/brlcad" update -dP brlcad brlcad |
| 03:50.29 | dli | IriX32, do I pass some ENV to autogen.sh? |
| 03:55.33 | dli | IriX32, config.status: WARNING: Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting |
| 04:00.38 | IriX32 | checking that right now, wait a bit |
| 04:01.33 | IriX32 | a compile and a configure running at the same time, needs patience. |
| 04:05.59 | dli | IriX32, I guess it's automake-version problem |
| 04:06.31 | IriX32 | hmmm x11 does not appear to be functionaly available still? (i did an update mere 15 minutes ago) |
| 04:06.43 | IriX32 | dli wait |
| 04:07.21 | dli | IriX32, using automake-1.10 has no Makefile.in problem |
| 04:08.26 | IriX32 | really? i'm using 1.8.5 and the last update i got fixed it looks like |
| 04:08.36 | IriX32 | cvs update |
| 04:09.01 | dli | IriX32, good, it's building |
| 04:09.07 | IriX32 | good |
| 04:10.06 | dli | IriX32, I updated the tcl/tk doc patch, http://pastebin.ca/449316 |
| 04:10.16 | IriX32 | ty |
| 04:11.01 | IriX32 | man i do not speak make sorry. |
| 04:11.43 | IriX32 | brlcad that last did the trick re dataroot dir thingy |
| 04:12.05 | dli | IriX32, what trick? |
| 04:12.32 | IriX32 | updating after his last commit |
| 04:12.42 | dli | IriX32, no idea |
| 04:14.12 | IriX32 | http://pastebin.ca/449325 <-- summary of plain ./autogen.sh ./configure |
| 04:14.26 | dli | ITCL_LIBRARY=/usr/brlcad/lib64/itcl3.3/ ITK_LIBRARY=/usr/brlcad/lib64/itk3.3/ /usr/brlcad/bin/mged |
| 04:15.05 | dli | good |
| 04:15.30 | dli | I want to build a /usr/bin/brlcad (a script to run /usr/brlcad/bin/brlcad ) |
| 04:15.52 | IriX32 | ? |
| 04:16.24 | dli | IriX32, sorry, to /usr/brlcad/bin/mged |
| 04:16.41 | IriX32 | just set your path |
| 04:17.09 | IriX32 | don't ask me how that's done :) |
| 04:35.41 | dli | IriX32, good, I got cvs running |
| 04:40.19 | IriX32 | dli you said you're using archlinux right |
| 04:46.14 | IriX32 | txUnixMenubu.c in tk/unix is misssing a #include "default.h" watch out for it. |
| 04:48.00 | IriX32 | break time |
| 04:48.23 | dli | IriX32, gentoo |
| 04:48.35 | dli | IriX32, use automake-1.10? |
| 04:48.52 | IriX32 | that fixes it? |
| 04:49.06 | IriX32 | whatever works man |
| 04:49.16 | dli | IriX32, yes |
| 04:49.50 | IriX32 | guess i should upgrade...someday... but if it's not broken you know... |
| 04:51.26 | dli | IriX32, rebuild to double check the building script |
| 05:04.50 | IriX32 | dli, don't follow, autogen works here |
| 05:27.50 | dli | IriX32, I submitted my ebuilds to http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77197 |
| 05:29.40 | IriX32 | good |
| 05:30.07 | dli | IriX32, double checked, it works for me |
| 05:30.37 | IriX32 | good mine always did work |
| 05:31.03 | dli | IriX32, gentoo is still mysterious to me :( |
| 05:31.21 | IriX32 | life is mysterious to me :) |
| 05:34.44 | dli | IriX32, sure, buddha said there are as many worlds like ours as number of sands in the river Ganges |
| 05:35.40 | IriX32 | *I say life is elementary school, how you make out here determines which high school you go to |
| 05:39.23 | dli | IriX32, buddha say everyone has his or her own buddha, and all lives are equal |
| 05:39.58 | IriX32 | but the routes to the final destination are various |
| 05:41.49 | IriX32 | some take the high road some take the rocky road |
| 05:42.10 | dli | IriX32, there's no such "final destination", giving the multiverse world |
| 05:42.55 | IriX32 | ahh i beg to differ, the eternal kingdom is under construction, we're expected to help build it |
| 05:43.56 | IriX32 | someday i'll tell you about my golden dream, and my impossible golden dream :) |
| 05:44.06 | dli | IriX32, you can enjoy your world :) and buddha wants to help everyone |
| 05:44.25 | IriX32 | it's your world too, live it up |
| 05:44.30 | IriX32 | :) |
| 05:45.03 | dli | IriX32, no, since everyone can has a different buddha, not necessarily the same |
| 05:45.39 | IriX32 | all names refer to one being |
| 05:46.14 | dli | IriX32, buddha doesn't see an almighty creator for the multiverse :) |
| 05:46.39 | IriX32 | you saying your buddah |
| 05:48.29 | dli | IriX32, yes, buddha knows there are other buddhas, so, there's no concept of infidel for him. because there's no non-believers, just other buddhas |
| 05:48.44 | IriX32 | was thanking God for something one day, and thought to ask after his day, into my mind pops the word splendacious |
| 05:48.59 | IriX32 | i didn't even know that word existed before that |
| 05:49.04 | dli | IriX32, thinking of God leads to religious wars :) |
| 05:49.13 | IriX32 | not here |
| 05:50.00 | dli | also, God is evil and jealous, he punishes you, if you don't believe him, and only him |
| 05:50.13 | IriX32 | i'm told the secret is to learn to recognize thoughts that are not your |
| 05:50.25 | IriX32 | +s |
| 05:50.52 | IriX32 | well i see hellish high for you then |
| 05:51.49 | dli | IriX32, hehe, buddha says, if there's a hell, I should go there, before everyone else should |
| 06:00.48 | IriX32 | you should study Gods plan |
| 06:02.16 | dli | IriX32, no, I'm atheist :) but interested why people still killing each other in name of God |
| 06:03.28 | IriX32 | in name of God you say, they don't truly beleive in the diety then |
| 06:04.15 | IriX32 | the uso show is now over :) |
| 06:07.15 | dli | IriX32, just watched PBS show, "America at crossroad". Most muslim (on the show) are so scary to me. |
| 06:08.14 | IriX32 | muslims are people too, should not be afraid of people dli, learn their customs, traditions etc |
| 06:08.37 | dli | IriX32, the show reminds me, Taliban destroyed buddha statues in Bamiyan. No buddhist suicide bombers because of that |
| 06:09.38 | IriX32 | if people would communicate, rather than pontificate |
| 06:09.52 | IriX32 | such might not happen |
| 06:10.33 | dli | IriX32, you forgot native European born radicals |
| 06:11.19 | IriX32 | are you here to goad me or do you really want my help? |
| 06:12.24 | dli | IriX32, no, just thinking about the PBS show, maybe, it's biased |
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| 07:53.39 | brlcad | dli: nice work on the ebuild |
| 07:54.15 | brlcad | the problem that it's going to probably run into is just the complications from using /usr/brlcad |
| 07:55.12 | brlcad | some of the core guys are not particularly fond of having another big top-level usr dir ala X11R6 |
| 07:56.34 | brlcad | and to not put brl-cad into /usr/brlcad, e.g. into /usr, means attempting to resolve or deal with about a dozen conflicts |
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| 09:36.17 | clock_ | brlcad: did you say that pipe is defined by points on it's way and curvatures? |
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| 11:32.14 | cad18 | hi all |
| 11:32.40 | deltazap | clock_: yes, it is |
| 11:33.16 | deltazap | the first and last points radiuses don't matter, but everything else does |
| 11:33.25 | cad18 | is brlcad comparable to catia? |
| 11:34.47 | deltazap | cad18: from what i understand, catia is much more indepth into the whole lifecycle of an item. not only does it do modelling, but analysis and CAM, i believe |
| 11:35.01 | deltazap | but, it's also much more $$$ :P |
| 11:35.14 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/ (linkroot.sh Makefile.am): |
| 11:35.15 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: adding an initial script used to create or recreate the symbolic links in an |
| 11:35.15 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: installation root directory where multiple versions are retained. the script |
| 11:35.15 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: currently creates the links in a directory (e.g. /usr/brlcad) to point to some |
| 11:35.15 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: specified current stable version (e.g. /usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.0). more work |
| 11:35.17 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: needed to recreate/relink properly still, but it's a start. |
| 11:42.56 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/HACKING: per e-mail initiated on their end, softpedia would like to be notified when we make releases of brl-cad. particularly for the mac builds, though there is also a linux entry now apparently too. |
| 12:37.34 | p0g0 | Hi-is there a simple list of the dependencies required for brlcad- ./configure reports no x11 or opengl, and the compile bombs with "error:x11/xlib.h" -this being an Xorg v11 system, I'd guess I'm hosed... clues? Manna from on high? |
| 12:38.25 | clock_ | deltazap: and how are the curvatures defined? Using one vector? |
| 12:39.25 | deltazap | nope, just a radius |
| 12:40.01 | joevalleyfield | p0g0, where is your x11/xlib.h |
| 12:40.20 | p0g0 | uhmm- with an Xorg setup, I doubt that I have one. |
| 12:40.29 | p0g0 | Xorg <>X11 |
| 12:40.36 | joevalleyfield | uh |
| 12:40.42 | joevalleyfield | i'm pretty sure you still have one |
| 12:40.44 | p0g0 | I could be very wrong tho |
| 12:40.59 | joevalleyfield | Xorg is just a fork of xfree86? |
| 12:41.03 | p0g0 | ok then I'll just need to locate it and get it into the path |
| 12:41.08 | joevalleyfield | everything is really the same |
| 12:41.15 | joevalleyfield | put it in some CPPFLAGS |
| 12:41.37 | joevalleyfield | CPPFLAGS='-I /path/to/X11dir/' |
| 12:41.59 | p0g0 | ok- then I'd guess all I'll need are the headers/source for Xorg... I'll sort that out |
| 12:42.12 | joevalleyfield | just headers |
| 12:42.27 | joevalleyfield | and libs |
| 12:42.37 | p0g0 | then I'd rerun ./configure to get rid of the no X11 , I'd guess |
| 12:42.45 | joevalleyfield | hopefully |
| 12:43.01 | p0g0 | Ok- I'll fool with that, thanks |
| 12:43.10 | joevalleyfield | np |
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| 16:14.22 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03joevalleyfield * 10brlcad/src/other/ (tcl/unix/tcl.m4 tk/unix/tcl.m4): |
| 16:14.22 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: remove dependency on __private_extern__ when compiling on darwin |
| 16:14.22 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: don't hide module symbols on apple; they aren't hidden on other unix platforms |
| 17:22.57 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03joevalleyfield * 10brlcad/src/other/tk/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:26.20 | joevalleyfield | brlcad, the commit message for that was supposed to be remove dependency on -fpascal-strings when building for aqua |
| 17:30.07 | joevalleyfield | i imagine it's darn near impossible to hack it in |
| 18:02.29 | joevalleyfield | i modified the each of the log messages, maybe something more needs to be done to make the changelog happy? |
| 18:52.13 | ``Erik | Xorg is a fork of X11, usually installed to /usr/X11R6, though I like mine in /usr/Xorg |
| 18:52.22 | ``Erik | --with-x11=/usr/Xorg makes mine all peachy |
| 18:56.55 | p0g0 | ``Erik: tell me more about that-I'm trying to sort out the dependencies in an Xorg (X11R6) setup...I'm not even sure whether the headers I need are to be found in X11-common. I'd appreciate any datum offered. |
| 19:01.35 | ``Erik | for BRL-CAD? xorg-libraries should be enough |
| 19:02.27 | p0g0 | ``Erik: thanks |
| 19:03.55 | ``Erik | p0g0: which os are you using? |
| 19:04.28 | p0g0 | ``Erik: on this box, it's a debian offshoot of SID |
| 19:04.39 | ``Erik | hum, does X launch? can you use like gnome or kde and get a working desktop? |
| 19:05.27 | p0g0 | oh yeah- it's a happy box, kde, kernel 2.6.18 smp, intel p6 3Ghz... |
| 19:06.05 | ``Erik | ok, do you have the xlib dev package? like, um, /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h ? |
| 19:06.35 | ``Erik | (which is what time asked in a case special way) |
| 19:06.47 | ``Erik | "special" heh... :D hockey helmet and water wings, yo |
| 19:07.23 | p0g0 | that's what I lack- I'd hoped to locate a dependency list, but so far I'm just chipping away missing lib by missing lib. |
| 19:07.44 | ``Erik | well, the dep list for BRL-CAD is kinda a non-static thing |
| 19:07.53 | p0g0 | fair enough |
| 19:08.04 | ``Erik | for what you want, you probably need the X dev package, the png dev package, ummm maybe tcl and tk 8.5 |
| 19:08.13 | p0g0 | I should be able to locate the -dev .deb |
| 19:08.24 | p0g0 | ooh thanks |
| 19:08.24 | ``Erik | (notice I'm saying dev package on all of those) |
| 19:08.37 | p0g0 | yes, I appreciate the meaning of that |
| 19:14.28 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03joevalleyfield * 10brlcad/src/other/ (tcl/unix/tcl.m4 tk/unix/tcl.m4): |
| 19:14.28 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: remove dependency on __private_extern__ when compiling on darwin |
| 19:14.29 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: usually MODULE_SCOPE is defined in tclInt.h. Apparently some OSX files |
| 19:14.29 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: don't include it so MODULE SCOPE must be defined as extern where it was |
| 19:14.29 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: previously defined as __private_extern__. |
| 19:41.05 | IriX32 | it says found x11 in /usr/x11r6 but then x11 is not functionally available |
| 19:41.18 | IriX32 | . |
| 19:41.46 | IriX32 | libs are in x11r6/lib |
| 19:41.52 | joevalleyfield | as always, look at the end of your config.log and see why the test program didn't run |
| 19:42.53 | IriX32 | urf ty |
| 19:44.37 | ``Erik | "A net is a series of holes joined together with string" |
| 19:45.22 | joevalleyfield | tubes |
| 19:45.47 | ``Erik | <-- meant an omfg real net, not a network |
| 19:46.09 | IriX32 | _XNewModifiermap <---- undefined reference |
| 19:46.28 | ``Erik | I guess you'll have to use the old modifier map :/ |
| 19:46.33 | IriX32 | heh |
| 19:46.46 | IriX32 | who crafted the new :P |
| 19:46.53 | ``Erik | or search your libraries to see which one defines the symbol |
| 19:47.21 | IriX32 | man x is fraught :P |
| 19:48.08 | IriX32 | suppose i could hard code it on ... but... that wouldn't be in keeping with the spirit of things now would it |
| 19:48.40 | IriX32 | i know i have x i know it finds it. ill set libs myself |
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| 19:50.35 | joevalleyfield | that should work, the source code doesn't appear to rely on XNewModifiermap |
| 19:50.52 | IriX32 | ty |
| 19:52.13 | IriX32 | your fast joevalleyfield, thanks |
| 19:52.50 | joevalleyfield | grep is everyone's friend |
| 19:52.56 | IriX32 | heh true |
| 20:00.53 | IriX32 | jvf trying something |
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| 20:06.55 | IriX32 | never mind will only work if X is up :) |
| 20:09.54 | IriX32 | so... x11_works=yes to the rescue :) |
| 20:12.00 | IriX32 | lets see if libs get set right |
| 20:19.20 | IriX32 | -L/usr/X11R6/lib :) |
| 20:29.43 | IriX32 | ty building |
| 20:35.35 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/conv/iges/ (get_outer_shell.cpp brep.cpp add_face.cpp): correct a typo in documentation |
| 20:36.21 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/proc-db/brep_simple.cpp: correct a typo in documentation |
| 20:37.42 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: Add initial (currently untested) support for trimming |
| 20:42.39 | IriX32 | http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos <--- promised you K-tank last night :) |
| 20:44.21 | b0ef | wasn't there an effort to move BRL-CAD to storing floats in double precision? |
| 20:53.12 | IriX32 | sphere flake |
| 20:57.03 | IriX32 | mmm i mentioned it... better deliver it :) |
| 21:07.32 | IriX32 | complex, very slow to appear |
| 21:29.47 | IriX32 | http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos sphere flake and rendering sphere flake |
| 21:31.04 | IriX32 | you're probably wondering what I'm doing messing around with 7.10 :) |
| 21:50.43 | IriX32 | same blog address , your way combined with my way :) |
| 21:53.42 | IriX32 | if i want a fbserv window i just type exec fbserv 2 /dev/X into the mged command window and ... |
| 22:16.54 | archivist | IriX32, test your link before you publish http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos I get an xml error |
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| 22:23.38 | IriX32 | whoa sorry |
| 22:24.15 | IriX32 | just loaded what you typed, works here |
| 22:24.46 | IriX32 | having bwish issues right now tho |
| 22:26.20 | IriX32 | its there but it can't find go figure, tk8.5.a that is |
| 23:23.16 | brlcad | b0ef: erm.. for which file type? the .g files should be packed in double-precision (it's up to each primitive) |
| 23:23.37 | brlcad | the .asc file format is a bit different, limited only by snprintf settings |
| 23:36.23 | CIA-14 | libIRC: 03brlcad * 10CVSROOT/commitinfo: use the cvs_acls file to read the access rules in the avail file, thanks dtremenak |
| 23:40.05 | dli | brlcad, if we build /usr/, the problem is that some brlcad libraries, librt libbn, libz will be linked into many other packages. |
| 23:56.21 | IriX32 | dli so put it in /usr/local/brlcad (--prefix=/usr/local/brlcad on configure line) |