IRC log for #brlcad on 20070419

00:35.37CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/ (10 files in 4 dirs): framework for a spam bot
00:49.49CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: filter checks
02:26.47*** join/#brlcad Twingy (n=justin@74.92.144.217) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
03:11.42CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: host and message filters
03:46.53CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: fixes and a mode to play nice
03:49.54*** join/#brlcad IriX32 (n=mario_du@bas2-sudbury98-1096601189.dsl.bell.ca)
03:59.36IriX32http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos       <--- Serious progress
04:13.47IriX32heh real serious, visit again if you like :)
04:20.39IriX32I don't want you guys being blamed for my shody work, so I adopted 9.9.9 and so on as my version system, perhaps one day I'll be able to really contribute.
04:38.38CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/ircCommands.cpp: prevent a crash if the commands are wrong
04:39.00CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: nice mode is now 3 strikes.
04:50.23CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: reg with nickserv
05:55.54*** join/#brlcad clock_ (i=clock@84-72-88-66.dclient.hispeed.ch)
06:04.17CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: whitespace, and add better verification to the bot
06:04.49CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/IRCClient.cpp: whitespace, and add better verification to the bot
06:17.34CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/ (src/spamBot.cpp vc7.1/spamBot.vcproj): nickserv fixes and making it work in release
06:30.49CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: bug fixes
07:34.19*** join/#brlcad clock_ (n=clock@zux221-122-143.adsl.green.ch)
10:52.28*** join/#brlcad clock_ (n=clock@zux221-122-143.adsl.green.ch)
11:05.11CIA-14BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/util/Makefile.am: typo, missing underscore on RT_LIBS for binfo
12:32.28brlcaddeltazap: you've uncountered a rather annoying bug, but I think I have found a work-around
12:34.22brlcadthe bug is related to having multiply referenced primitives with various transformations
12:34.28clock_brlcad: is it only for referencing primitives or also for combinations?
12:34.28brlcadif you xpush (either before the edit or before the Z), it'll work
12:35.13brlcadclock_: the bug you reported is slightly related, but different issue.. yours was for either primitives or combinations .. multiple references in a single combination
12:35.52brlcadwhat deltazap uncovered should just be for primitives
12:36.51joevalleyfieldbrlcad: does mged -c with the ogl dm work for you on the mac?
12:36.58joevalleyfieldit's crashing my X11
12:38.45joevalleyfieldthe normal mode works fine and is definately using the ogl dm
12:38.45brlcadi don't have a 7.10.0 to test, but 7.8.0 crashes X11 for me
12:38.45joevalleyfieldgreat
12:38.45joevalleyfieldi'm talking about my own tree and was hoping it wasn't my fault :)
12:38.45brlcadso whatever it is has been in there for a while
12:41.02CIA-14BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/BUGS: mged -c, select ogl display manager, crashes X11 -- tested on os x; confirmed at least back throuh 7.8.0
13:00.01*** join/#brlcad p0g0 (n=pogo@madwifi/support/p0g0)
13:07.43clock_brlcad: can't it be easily fixed?
13:10.00brlcadcan't what be easily fixed?
13:10.54clock_the bugs with multiple reference
13:14.17brlcadprobably, hard to say without digging more deeply
13:14.49brlcadit used to work too -- should be a traceable problem
13:16.04brlcadit's also mged-specific
13:16.24brlcadthe engine doesn't particular care -- it does the right thing
13:26.20brlcaddeltazap: more details.. the bug seems specifically tied to doing both the scale edit with the mouse and the follow-up rotation with the command window
13:26.59brlcadso it's actually not at all related to multiply referenced prims.. just some state inconsistency between the gui edit state and the command window's state
13:55.43deltazaphuh, interesting
13:55.48brlcaddeltazap: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1703625&group_id=105292&atid=640802
13:56.49deltazap:D
13:58.24deltazapi have to say, though, i now understand the matrices a bit more
14:13.17deltazapoh, i'll have a model up later today with my supersecret hidden message for the competition tomorrow
14:20.07*** join/#brlcad space_ninja (n=guiden@81-233-49-201-no58.tbcn.telia.com)
14:20.43brlcadheh, nice nick
14:21.01brlcaddeltazap: cool
14:24.43deltazapalso, the projection shader is neatt
14:24.45deltazap*neat
14:57.45*** join/#brlcad cad41 (n=db4e3fb2@bz.bzflag.bz)
14:58.08*** join/#brlcad cad90 (n=db4e3fb2@bz.bzflag.bz)
15:22.55*** join/#brlcad Elperion (n=Elperion@p54875461.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:11.22*** join/#brlcad smallfoot- (i=vc@clamwin/translator/smallfoot)
17:04.30CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/todo.txt: notes on stuff todo later if needed
18:47.30*** join/#brlcad dli_ (n=dli@adsl-75-34-2-126.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net)
18:48.27dli_building brlcad from source messes up installed system tcl/tk libraries. any easy solution? like --prefix=/usr/brlcad/ ?
18:54.33dli_IriX32, I tried --prefix=/usr/brlcad/ , I think brlcad still builds tcl/tk libraries in /usr/
18:54.56IriX32--prefix is for the install
18:55.10IriX32it builds tcl/tk in the brlcad directories
18:55.23IriX32src/other/tcl
18:55.58dli_IriX32, yes, "make install" in that folder
18:56.44IriX32what are you tring to install, the whole thing? just do a make install in thew brlcad root
18:57.09dli_IriX32, " autogen.sh; ./configure <options>; make; make install
18:57.15IriX32yes
18:57.23IriX32use --prefix if you like
18:57.36IriX32if you dont it will default to /usr/brlcad
18:58.10dli_IriX32, everything in /usr/brlcad? I'm worried but messing up /usr/lib64/
18:58.43IriX32should not touch it
18:58.54IriX32everything will be under usr/brlcad
18:59.26dli_IriX32, also, the README file recommends cvs over tar ball. is that still valid?
18:59.30IriX32i have numerous brlcad builds :)
18:59.43IriX32as far as i know yes dli_
18:59.59IriX32tarball=much fun:)
19:00.38dli_IriX32, oh, can I force brlcad to use existing tcl/tk-8.4? so I can expect less library problems
19:01.02IriX32not for the faint of heart
19:01.22IriX32meaning brlcad builds tcl tk for a reason
19:01.31dli_IriX32, thanks
19:01.40IriX32welcome
19:02.11IriX32but they to will be installed in the usr/brlcad dir dli no worries
19:02.15*** join/#brlcad clock_ (i=clock@84-72-88-66.dclient.hispeed.ch)
19:02.32IriX32your system stuff doesn't need to be touched
19:02.51IriX32i dont even set my path, just switch to usr/brlcad/bin and go
19:03.17dli_IriX32, I can set PATH at user base, should be fine
19:03.25IriX32all right
19:04.24dli_IriX32, another question, any chance saying brlcad in a linux distribution?
19:05.03IriX32this i can't answe there are binaries on sourceforge but i haven't visited recently to see
19:06.18IriX32don't know if they are up to date dli_
19:13.10dli_IriX32, just in case, I found I have to patch some tcl/tk Makefiles, in order to "make", the patch: http://pastebin.ca/448580
19:15.00IriX32ahh that doc thing, i worked around it too
19:15.11IriX32*you should file a bug report
19:15.46IriX32i cant cause my system is strange
19:15.49dli_IriX32, you definitely understand this better, please file the bug report
19:16.01IriX32cannot i have a deal in place
19:16.30IriX32its there in activestates stand alone system disros too
19:16.36IriX32distros
19:16.38dli_IriX32, maybe an automake version thing?
19:17.06IriX32happens here to i use automake 8.5 i think
19:17.12IriX321.8.5
19:17.44dli_IriX32, what about 1.9 or 1.10? they both fail ./configure
19:18.04IriX32this i know thsats why i dropped back to 1.8.5
19:18.06dli_while README recommends automake >= 1.9
19:18.32IriX32i go with what works
19:18.40IriX32errr on *my system
19:19.29dli_IriX32, another thing funny, my system is linux, I can see ./configure tests a lot of Windows stuff
19:20.56dli_brlcad, please file the bug report. I go back to work now
19:26.43IriX32dli brlcad has a whole couple of trees for windows compilers
19:40.52IriX32dli... my system is wondows, it tests a lot of unix stuff :P
19:40.57IriX32windows too
19:45.17CIA-14BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_brep.cpp: fix parameter bounding, suppress debug statements. yay! untrimmed breps raytrace!
19:48.18CIA-14BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/proc-db/brep_cube.cpp: change material back to plastic
19:49.17CIA-14BRL-CAD: 03jlowenz * 10brlcad/src/proc-db/brep_simple.cpp: perturb a vertex for testing...
19:52.27IriX32http://www.pastebin.ca/448637   <--- where's ``Erik  ;)
19:56.12IriX3204/18/2007  02:45 PM        15,739,151 mged.exe
19:56.19IriX32:)
20:31.14*** join/#brlcad Elperion (n=Elperion@p54875461.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:03.47CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp:
21:03.48CIA-14libIRC: track hostmasks for masters
21:03.48CIA-14libIRC: help on comamnds
21:03.48CIA-14libIRC: stuff to set options
21:03.48CIA-14libIRC: many changes.
21:15.32brlcadnot impossible
21:15.38brlcadjust highly improbable
21:16.26IriX32i know but i can wish
21:16.30IriX32and ride
21:17.01``Erikwell, if you were a gov't employee or contractor with sufficient privileges and a need to have that bit of geometry, ...
21:17.22``Erikuntil then, enjoy the ktank. :)
21:17.38brlcadheh
21:17.59IriX32ktank is next for the blog
21:18.03IriX32soons this compile finishes
21:18.13IriX32the cube is nice too
21:18.29``Erikdid the hilux get all signed off on?
21:18.41clock_IriX32: enjoy the Ronja, or you can even model missing things
21:18.46``Erikor that old russian heap?
21:18.58clock_like 90mm caliber Ronja or the new Plazmatron holder
21:19.02IriX32clock_ thanks
21:19.06IriX32:)
21:20.00clock_How big gun is a 130mm gun?
21:20.02``Erik90mm and a muzzle velocity of 300,000 km/s, pheersome
21:20.39``Erik?
21:20.43clock_``Erik: the holder weighs 15kg, for the recoil
21:20.53brlcadhttp://pastebin.ca/448580
21:20.58IriX32brlcad i didn't look real close but i think he got by that no such file or directory near the end of the install
21:21.15brlcadpresumably those for loops aren't globbing correctly if his patch really was necessary
21:21.25brlcadbut then that patch will break those that are working right
21:22.10brlcadalso hadn't noticed tcl/tk installing outside of the prefix
21:22.21brlcadseems to stay contained here
21:23.08CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: whitelist add/remove functions
21:26.32IriX32stays contained here too ``Erik
21:26.54IriX32http://irix32.spaces.live.com/photos
21:26.57IriX32ktank
21:27.53IriX32should i render it?
21:28.13IriX32btw this is the unix high on windows version :)
21:29.31IriX32if i compile static against system libs i should be home free right?
21:33.04``Erikfor i in $(TOP_DIR)/doc/*.1; do install $(TOP_DIR)/doc/$$i... install /usr/brlcad/doc/usr/brlcad/doc/poo.1 ; ...?
21:39.18CIA-14BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/Makefile.am: include/conf/DATE is generated, so in builddir
21:44.15IriX32Xwin32 is so good i ight spring for it
21:44.21IriX32might too
21:45.01CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/Makefile.am: autogen says blank lines after / is bad
21:46.34bjorkBSDget a bsd box.
21:46.37bjorkBSDit comes with x ;)
21:46.49IriX32so did cygwin ;)
21:46.58bjorkBSDmmm
21:47.06IriX32didn't want to get married though  ;)
21:47.25bjorkBSDhehehe
21:47.37IriX32:)
21:48.06IriX32rendering it now stay tuned :)
21:48.34CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/src/Makefile.am: or just oldcode may not exist=
21:50.20IriX32+ people
21:52.20IriX32waiting on ray trace complete, may be here a while
22:13.41IriX32emmiting photons, who are you kidding :)
22:14.26CIA-14libIRC: 03jeffm2501 * 10libirc/examples/spamBot/src/spamBot.cpp: when listing the help topics return when done, don't try to find help for a blank topic.
22:15.07IriX32http://pastebin.ca/448850
22:15.56IriX32that sysv5 warning is what was discusssed moons ago?
22:24.10IriX32cp -r brlcad brlcad-7.10.0
22:24.10IriX32crapz sorry
22:40.12IriX32http://pastebin.ca/448885  <---7.10.0 configure no display ? I do have X at least
22:41.45IriX32X11R6 if anybody cares
22:54.20*** join/#brlcad PrezKennedy (n=Matthew@c-69-251-101-137.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
23:11.32p0g0Hi, I've a linux 2.6 kernel, installed the 7.8.4 deb from sourceforge.  Invoking mged wants glibc_2.4, but no such dependency was reported by the deb.  Should I remove the deb, download the source and build?
23:16.39bjorkBSDbest bet
23:16.43bjorkBSDwhat's wrong with 7.10?
23:16.47bjorkBSDyou don't like new things?
23:17.52p0g0bjorkBSD: you asking me- I'm new to brlcad, and a deb is often a much easier thing to install...if it works.
23:18.13bjorkBSDif. ;)
23:19.18p0g0but I've no issue with building it- I gather that's the sage advice then.
23:19.38bjorkBSDindeedy.
23:19.46bjorkBSDthe packages aren't all out yet for 7.10
23:20.21p0g0I'll scurry of to crank up the compiler now... thanks
23:20.29bjorkBSDno problema.
23:22.18IriX32http://pastebin.ca/448936  <--- i know my system is strange but... other configure scripts can figure it out. (that's tcl/tk script they both report that.)
23:25.10bjorkBSD``Erik, are you  the freebsd ports maintainer for brlcad?
23:35.08``Erikjez, I need to fix the patch, cvs is being gooby about deleted files
23:35.09``ErikI also need to fix the tcl detection so'z I can dep on lang/tcl85 and x11-toolkits/tk85 :/
23:38.27``Erik(whyfor?)
23:39.13bjorkBSDoh i was about to take a hand at doing it when i noticed an 'erik' in the Makefile.
23:39.20bjorkBSDmind you, i've never done it before and since you're here ... :D
23:43.22``Eriktake a hand at doing what? a port update? hehehe
23:43.39``Erikhit pointyhat and look for broken ones owned by ports@
23:44.14bjorkBSDyeah.
23:44.29bjorkBSDbut it looks very hairy with it's ski-mask off :-S
23:46.25IriX32it's what's in it's hand you have to be carefull of :P
23:46.39bjorkBSDwhat? it's only an ice-ax
23:46.51bjorkBSDhmm. a sharp edge.
23:46.55bjorkBSD*backs away*
23:47.20brlcadIriX32: we don't do that ar check, that's all in autoconf's hands -- you'd probably need to reautogen using the latest autotools if you're not
23:47.31brlcadbut there's still pretty much nothing we can do about it
23:47.55IriX32ty
23:48.47IriX32http://pastebin.ca/448986  <--- what'd i do now. (7.10.0 again)
23:48.57brlcadp0g0: yeah, there are several issues with that deb -- there's not a full-time debian maintainer, that was contributed
23:49.28brlcadIriX32: no idea, but it looks somewhat hosed
23:49.38IriX32somewhat
23:49.52IriX32urf ill checkout again :)
23:52.04brlcad``Erik: exactly.. i don't see how adding TOP_DIR/doc fixed anything

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.