| 00:23.27 | IriX64 | ``Erik is windereze gl32 part of every windows system? I can't find any of my kids who have been playing around with it |
| 00:26.39 | IriX64 | which is also the reason btw that i run windows base |
| 00:29.10 | IriX64 | you guys can consider me a test bed, if it succeds here it should be fine everywhere but if it screws up here blame it on my stuff :) |
| 00:31.09 | IriX64 | heh opennurbs going by :) |
| 00:40.35 | IriX64 | http://irix64.spaces.live.com/photos/brl-cad |
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| 03:15.44 | IriX64 | now why on earth does my system do that? meaning i set with-tk and with-tcl and tkconfigure can't find tclsh |
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| 04:12.58 | deltazap | *sigh* |
| 04:21.51 | brlcad | deltazap: sorry for the frustration.. competiting deadlines taking up attention today |
| 04:23.30 | deltazap | that's not a problem |
| 04:23.37 | brlcad | b0ef: no, it's intentionally designed with a front-end and back-end so that there could be a gui written in whatever flavor people prefer |
| 04:24.15 | deltazap | i found out that running ./autogen.sh will clear up the error with the BPT trap, but then it still persists in the programs themselves |
| 04:25.09 | brlcad | principal approach that I'm most expecting/hopeful to work out best is to go with one of the 3D render engines like ogre or irrlicht for front-end graphics management and an opengl-based gui toolkit |
| 04:25.47 | brlcad | deltazap: hmmm.. good to know -- problem with the libtool that is in the source tarball |
| 04:26.18 | brlcad | deltazap: which os again? |
| 04:26.25 | deltazap | OS X |
| 04:26.41 | deltazap | the latest, 10.4.9 |
| 04:27.30 | brlcad | did you try static build? |
| 04:27.35 | deltazap | no, not yet |
| 04:27.39 | brlcad | --disable-shared |
| 04:27.48 | brlcad | that "should" also fix the problem |
| 04:27.53 | brlcad | just uses a lot of disk |
| 04:28.21 | deltazap | how much is a lot? |
| 04:28.32 | brlcad | don't recall the final installed amount |
| 04:28.40 | brlcad | couple hundred MB iirc |
| 04:28.53 | brlcad | it'll need like 2GB to compile, though |
| 04:29.14 | brlcad | iirc |
| 04:33.18 | deltazap | ok, i'll try it tonight |
| 04:34.55 | IriX64 | brlcad here 7.8.4 took just over a gig |
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| 13:00.18 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/libbu/libbu.vcproj: The Tcl path changed and memset.c is no longer with us. |
| 13:08.20 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/libbn/libbn.vcproj: The Tcl path changed. Also, asize.c and number.c have been removed. |
| 13:53.10 | ``Erik | hehehe "I'd like to see Emacs, the microbot, though... It makes toast, does taxes and raises your children, but unfortunately it has the size and weight of a phone book, draws a kilowatt of power and the wheels don't quite reach the ground." |
| 14:07.43 | deltazap | protip: don't do --enable-all --enable-optimize with --disable-cache, you'll wake up with 3 gigs missing and gcc wanting more :P |
| 14:27.29 | ``Erik | hrm, but 3 gigs is, like, nothing |
| 14:27.59 | deltazap | not on my laptop, where i keep it quite full |
| 14:28.19 | deltazap | and my powermac isn't going to fare much better since i keep all of my photography on it |
| 14:29.34 | ``Erik | heh |
| 14:35.53 | ``Erik | $ df -k | awk '{print $2}' | grep -v blocks | xargs | sed 's/ /+/g;s,.*,(&)/(1024*1024*1024),' | bc -l | sed 's/$/ TB/' |
| 14:35.53 | ``Erik | 12.20917387586086988449 TB |
| 14:37.09 | ``Erik | oh, woops |
| 14:37.27 | ``Erik | $ df -k | awk '{print $2}' | grep -v blocks | xargs | sed 's/ /+/g;s,.*,(&)/(1024*1024*1024),' | bc -l | sed 's/$/ TB/' |
| 14:37.27 | ``Erik | 17.05380797106772661209 TB |
| 14:37.37 | ``Erik | one of my raids wasn't mounted, heh |
| 17:22.35 | ``Erik | oh wow, a bug report for some of my software... on a cbm a4000 (604e amiga from '92) running amigaOS O.o |
| 17:23.58 | archivist | Ive noted a few nuts running old stuff in #classiccmp |
| 17:26.39 | ``Erik | well, yeah, nothing wrong with running old hw... but I'm kinda boggled that someone got my software to work there... it was very much designed for *nix, has warts on osX (but kinda runs from the command line), apparently runs from the command line in amigaOS (but not as a callable sub-program from this "yam" thing, which I think is a mail client) |
| 17:28.18 | archivist | they pasted this link today http://www.sentex.net/%7Emwandel/tech/printer.html |
| 17:29.27 | clock_ | archivist: I have a 1-pin dot matrix printer at home, not home built but factory built |
| 17:30.53 | ``Erik | heh |
| 17:31.08 | ``Erik | reading that whole thing, I kept going "why not just make it a plotter", then saw the lnk at the end :D |
| 17:33.18 | archivist | but then in the old days I fitted S100 bus to a commodore pet |
| 18:03.23 | IriX64 | is it *supposed to find both opengl and X ? |
| 18:05.22 | IriX64 | tried --without-opengl, still finds it |
| 18:09.16 | IriX64 | s100 bus I know, s100 on a commodore, I don't know :) |
| 18:10.38 | IriX64 | :) |
| 18:11.11 | IriX64 | this should work, configure claims it's sane :) |
| 18:14.00 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/436737 <---- now what? :) |
| 18:15.31 | IriX64 | don't worry bout tcl.... told you my build system is,err,well....unique :) |
| 18:16.27 | IriX64 | frame buffer came up |
| 18:19.15 | IriX64 | http://irix64.spaces.live.com/photos/brl-cad |
| 18:21.38 | IriX64 | bwahaha it rt'ed havoc |
| 18:24.36 | IriX64 | heh same url :) |
| 18:26.37 | brlcad | IriX64: remember that rule about posting more than five lines if nobody else is talking? |
| 18:26.47 | brlcad | it never went away |
| 18:26.47 | IriX64 | noted |
| 18:27.10 | brlcad | thx |
| 18:27.11 | IriX64 | when can i talk? |
| 18:27.21 | brlcad | pace yourself |
| 18:27.39 | brlcad | when someone else responds |
| 18:27.48 | brlcad | deltazap: heh, eep :) |
| 18:27.50 | IriX64 | now i know... ty |
| 18:27.53 | brlcad | only 3GB? |
| 18:28.06 | brlcad | deltazap: was that with --disable-shared? |
| 18:28.20 | deltazap | last night, yeah |
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| 18:58.24 | dli | can I show sectional view in brlcad? |
| 19:14.27 | brlcad | dli: you mean split views? |
| 19:15.34 | brlcad | if so, on menu Modes -> Multipane |
| 19:20.48 | dli | brlcad, no, I mean to show sectional, cutting part of along a plane |
| 19:20.54 | dli | cutting part off |
| 19:26.52 | brlcad | ah, not automatic |
| 19:27.16 | brlcad | you can create/orient an arb and subtract it |
| 19:27.31 | brlcad | arb or halfspace |
| 19:28.06 | dli | brlcad, oh, that's not bad |
| 19:35.30 | brlcad | allows you to create new top-level objects with various cutaway views too |
| 19:39.50 | dli | brlcad, can I write text labels in brlcad? |
| 19:40.15 | dli | brlcad, or I have to use an image tool? |
| 19:41.40 | brlcad | dli: alas, not really, at least not easily and/or not for more than the wireframe |
| 19:41.56 | brlcad | annotations have long been on our todo and wish lists |
| 19:43.13 | dli | brlcad, add dimension, drafting also, thanks |
| 19:44.00 | brlcad | hehe |
| 19:44.07 | brlcad | yup |
| 19:44.18 | brlcad | dimensioning is related to parametrics |
| 19:45.32 | brlcad | IriX64: nice mug :) |
| 19:47.25 | IriX64 | heh you designed it :) |
| 19:50.58 | clock_ | IriX64: thanks |
| 19:51.11 | clock_ | dli: sectional view can be seen at http://ronja.twibright.com/3d |
| 19:51.15 | IriX64 | welced |
| 19:51.30 | brlcad | IriX64: you should try modeling that moose as a project.. that would be awesome |
| 19:52.34 | IriX64 | remeber feb 21's is an albumn too :) |
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| 20:27.31 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/libbu/basename.c: Needs to include bu.h |
| 20:29.35 | deltazap | clock_: what did you use to get the perspectives of the models? |
| 20:34.04 | clock_ | deltazap: fixed values |
| 20:34.39 | deltazap | straight from brlcad? |
| 20:35.08 | clock_ | deltazap: no I selected myself 5 fixed values of view |
| 20:35.47 | deltazap | and it came out looking like that? |
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| 20:36.32 | clock_ | deltazap: yes |
| 20:36.54 | deltazap | wow |
| 20:36.56 | deltazap | i mean |
| 20:36.57 | deltazap | wow |
| 20:41.03 | brlcad | yay, finally fixed that age-old mged annoyance where the cursor gets in front of the prompt |
| 20:41.26 | ``Erik | w00t |
| 20:41.30 | deltazap | :D |
| 20:41.50 | brlcad | that little bitch was mildly tricky to track down |
| 20:42.08 | clock_ | brlcad: BRL-CAD now entering into the new century? |
| 20:42.11 | deltazap | uh oh, the machine that i was running my static compile on is no longer online |
| 20:42.18 | brlcad | clock_: welcome to 1990 ;) |
| 20:42.39 | clock_ | croydon stapleford |
| 20:42.57 | brlcad | i should have gone home 3 hours ago, but I got to piddling and ended up debugging |
| 20:44.42 | brlcad | deltazap: heh, oops |
| 20:45.24 | deltazap | yeah, it's strange...i hope that we just had a power failure and that it just stayed off |
| 20:45.42 | brlcad | or you filled up the disk, and it can't do anything |
| 20:45.45 | deltazap | hahah |
| 20:46.03 | ``Erik | should still pong under icmp lovin' |
| 20:46.26 | ``Erik | if it's a filled disk.. |
| 20:46.35 | deltazap | it had just finished the configure stage and was waiting for me to start make |
| 20:47.01 | deltazap | or, if i'm really lucky, it just got knocked off wireless |
| 20:47.21 | brlcad | or really unlucky, it just got stolen |
| 20:47.43 | deltazap | hah, i don't know if anyone wants a dual 500mhz powermac |
| 20:47.48 | IriX64 | repossed :) |
| 20:48.02 | IriX64 | err repossesed too |
| 20:48.05 | deltazap | or if anyone could carry the 21" Studio Display CRT very far |
| 20:48.14 | IriX64 | whatever sheesh :) |
| 21:04.26 | ``Erik | heh, a buddy of mine was throwing away like a 486 a long time ago |
| 21:04.42 | ``Erik | he decided he'd have a little fun, so he poured the machine full of cement, let it dry |
| 21:04.53 | ``Erik | left it on his patio, next morning he found it in the neighbors ditch |
| 21:05.16 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:07.01 | deltazap | wow, haha |
| 21:09.53 | deltazap | wait, i just thought about something... |
| 21:10.14 | deltazap | if i'm a mac...shouldn't i leave archer out of my build? :P |
| 21:17.22 | brlcad | archer is actually cross-platform |
| 21:17.36 | brlcad | we've just not made a binary for any platform other than windows yet |
| 21:18.14 | brlcad | unless you buy a linux distro of an older version from survice or something |
| 21:18.37 | brlcad | it should compile .. but it's not going to work at run-time yet on the mac without some build system changes |
| 21:18.42 | brlcad | it's all build system foo |
| 21:19.54 | deltazap | if i disable it in the configure stage, then i won't have to wait as long for a compile to fail :) |
| 21:20.21 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:21.15 | brlcad | cept that there's not an option to disable archer, as it does/should compile everywhere |
| 21:21.22 | deltazap | oh ok |
| 21:21.26 | brlcad | actually archer isn't technically compiled |
| 21:21.37 | brlcad | it's a tcl scripted wrapper |
| 21:27.32 | deltazap | hmm |
| 21:27.33 | deltazap | interesting |
| 21:34.20 | bjorkBSD | yeah that tcl's something isn't she? |
| 21:54.47 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/437130 what's wrong with my system here itclibs are in /usr/brlcad-7.10.0/lib |
| 21:56.01 | IriX64 | is it the fact that i specified --prefix |
| 22:07.09 | IriX64 | even with path set i get that |
| 22:12.20 | ``Erik | archer seemed to work on a fbsd machine, I didn't really dig into it, though |
| 22:25.37 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/437185 on the brifgt side :) |
| 22:25.37 | IriX64 | bright too |
| 23:15.38 | IriX64 | archer works on a windows box too ``Erik :) |
| 23:17.55 | ``Erik | it was designed and built for/on windows... so, uh, that'd be expected |
| 23:22.51 | IriX64 | ``Erik uh yeah, check it http://irix64.spaces.live.com/photos/brl-cad |
| 23:31.32 | IriX64 | :) |
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| 23:53.59 | IriX64 | man.... the farking version number is buggered it installs then as 3.3 rename to 3.2 and the error goes away |
| 23:54.10 | IriX64 | at least on my wacky system |