| 00:03.43 | ``Erik | how when where what huh? |
| 00:05.42 | deltazap | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.42 | deltazap | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.46 | deltazap | make[2]: *** [pkgIndex.tcl] Trace/BPT trap |
| 00:05.46 | deltazap | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 00:05.46 | deltazap | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 00:05.59 | brlcad | deltazap: what version os x is this? |
| 00:06.01 | ``Erik | so a hackintosh |
| 00:06.07 | deltazap | latest |
| 00:06.20 | brlcad | it's trying to run btclsh if I had to guess |
| 00:06.29 | deltazap | 10.4.9 |
| 00:06.38 | brlcad | hrm, ppc or intel? |
| 00:06.42 | deltazap | ppc |
| 00:06.56 | brlcad | do you have your own autotools installed? |
| 00:07.00 | ``Erik | (do I need to crank up one of my g4 hackintops?) |
| 00:07.04 | brlcad | or something like fink in your path? |
| 00:07.22 | deltazap | macports, that's it |
| 00:07.33 | brlcad | ./autogen --version reports what? |
| 00:07.37 | brlcad | er, ./autogen.sh |
| 00:08.43 | deltazap | Found GNU Autoconf version 2.59 |
| 00:08.43 | deltazap | Found GNU Automake version 1.6.3 |
| 00:08.53 | deltazap | then a warning about libtoolize |
| 00:09.06 | deltazap | and GNU Libtool 1.5 |
| 00:10.19 | ``Erik | what's the warning? |
| 00:12.08 | deltazap | libtoolize does not appear to be available. blah blah glibtoolize was found which means you may have a non-standard or incomplete GNU Autotools install |
| 00:12.14 | brlcad | yeah, that's fine |
| 00:12.33 | ``Erik | just means you're using hte apple supplied libtool instead of one in macports :/ |
| 00:13.11 | deltazap | isn't that how it should be? |
| 00:13.16 | brlcad | which "should" be a good thing |
| 00:13.21 | brlcad | as the latter is untested |
| 00:13.24 | ``Erik | *shrug* I use the macports one, brlcad uses the apple one I think |
| 00:13.28 | brlcad | though either "should" work too |
| 00:13.44 | ``Erik | but I MOSTLY use fbsd, the mac is just a pretty xserver |
| 00:14.14 | ``Erik | so'z my mac setup is... mimicking fbsd |
| 00:14.24 | kwizart | updated build log http://kwizart.free.fr/fedora/6/testing/brlcad/build.log Backtrace... |
| 00:16.17 | brlcad | ewwww |
| 00:17.03 | kwizart | also a libtool problem (i'm running fc6 on x86_64) |
| 00:17.06 | kwizart | ? |
| 00:17.22 | brlcad | no |
| 00:17.56 | brlcad | btclsh is crashing on your system inside tclcad_auto_path() inside bu_brlcad_data() inside snprintf() ... |
| 00:23.16 | brlcad | it's possibly related to a bug in Tcl 8.5, there were a couple that we had to directly patch |
| 00:24.02 | kwizart | my system bundle tcl 8.6 (but not found) the system version can be forced ? |
| 00:24.21 | kwizart | Does this will help ? |
| 00:26.14 | brlcad | er, que? |
| 00:26.23 | brlcad | where you get 8.6 from? |
| 00:27.10 | brlcad | all the external deps can be forced |
| 00:27.16 | kwizart | oups no it was 8.4 sorry! |
| 00:29.41 | brlcad | yeah, that won't work so well |
| 00:29.41 | kwizart | can i uses 8.4 ? or it won't be enought ? |
| 00:29.41 | brlcad | the crash itself doesn't make sense though |
| 00:29.41 | brlcad | unless the stack has been stomped on before we get to tclcad_auto_path() .. which is entirely possible and would be a tcl 8.5 bug |
| 00:30.37 | brlcad | deltazap: for you, there's a relatively simple workaround |
| 00:31.16 | brlcad | go to src/other and each src/lib* dir and run sudo make install |
| 00:31.47 | brlcad | then you should be able to (re)complete make |
| 00:34.50 | deltazap | alright, i'll have to try that here in a bit |
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| 01:35.01 | deltazap | brlcad: didn't work |
| 01:43.32 | brlcad | deltazap: erm.. shouldn't be exactly the same? |
| 01:43.49 | deltazap | well, yes, ssame BPT trap |
| 01:45.27 | brlcad | yet you now have installed all the libs? |
| 01:45.48 | deltazap | yup, went to each directory and did the make install |
| 01:46.12 | deltazap | each lib* directory, that is |
| 01:46.25 | IriX64 | deltazap do a make clean first then make and then make install |
| 01:47.04 | deltazap | after the installation of the libs? |
| 01:47.13 | brlcad | no no |
| 01:47.16 | brlcad | don't do that |
| 01:47.16 | IriX64 | for the installation of the libs |
| 01:47.19 | ``Erik | "every time you masturbate, god kills a kitten" |
| 01:47.29 | IriX64 | whatd i say? |
| 01:47.36 | brlcad | deltazap: what's the error now? |
| 01:47.56 | brlcad | pastebin from the last libtool line on if you would |
| 01:55.40 | deltazap | bah, pastebin is erroring for me |
| 01:58.43 | deltazap | alright, i'm going to retry this |
| 01:59.52 | brlcad | ~pastebin |
| 01:59.55 | ibot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 02:00.01 | brlcad | use one of the others that work ;) |
| 02:00.16 | deltazap | oh, didn't know that there were others |
| 02:05.57 | deltazap | anyways, i did a make clean and now am making from the src/other and then each lib* directory |
| 02:11.20 | brlcad | the important trick is to install the libs before running btclsh |
| 02:11.43 | brlcad | alternatively, if you have a lot of disk space, you can just add --disable-shared to the configure line and build everything static |
| 02:19.08 | deltazap | since i'm not too familiar with build systems, any reason it's building it in that order and causing that error? |
| 02:24.44 | IriX64 | has to be built in the order people submitted the code :P |
| 02:30.03 | brlcad | deltazap: that's a mac-specific build/libtool issue -- libtool fails to locate the (uninstalled) libraries that the binary it's trying to run is using |
| 02:30.19 | brlcad | in this case src/bwish/btclsh is the binary it's trying to run |
| 02:30.26 | brlcad | if you run it directly, you should see the error |
| 02:30.56 | brlcad | if you install those libraries before running the binary, it should work |
| 02:31.46 | deltazap | ok, i misunderstood the first time around |
| 03:41.36 | deltazap | http://pastebin.ca/434005 - same song and dance |
| 03:42.04 | deltazap | this time, i had done the make installs for all of the libs and then ran make |
| 03:45.47 | IriX64 | Making all in tclscripts |
| 03:45.50 | IriX64 | so? |
| 03:46.55 | deltazap | fails with the same error |
| 03:47.12 | IriX64 | *what error thgats all thats posted. |
| 03:47.39 | deltazap | it's at the bottom of the pastebin link |
| 03:48.59 | IriX64 | _TkStatePrintProc <--- it cant find that symbol in your tcl lib |
| 03:49.24 | IriX64 | thats a function |
| 03:49.59 | deltazap | it should be he tcl library bundled with the source |
| 03:50.25 | IriX64 | try your system tcl use --without-tcl |
| 03:51.02 | deltazap | "i have a bad feeling about this..." |
| 03:51.22 | IriX64 | configure will tell you if it cant find a system tcl/tk |
| 03:52.49 | IriX64 | --without-tk should be used too tho ... just to stay compatible rev wise |
| 03:53.22 | deltazap | should i flag anything else? |
| 03:57.37 | deltazap | well, configure didn't say anything, just says that it's going to build tcl and tk |
| 03:59.27 | IriX64 | must not have a system tcl lib then? |
| 04:00.22 | deltazap | guess not |
| 04:05.49 | IriX64 | you could try hunting for that function |
| 04:06.07 | IriX64 | leave the _ off |
| 04:06.13 | IriX64 | the search string |
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| 12:26.27 | kwizart | hello! |
| 12:26.40 | kwizart | i'm searching why system tcl aren't found! |
| 12:26.52 | kwizart | buiding brlcad 7.10.0 |
| 12:31.53 | clock_ | How can I enter a slanted cylinder? |
| 12:32.18 | clock_ | i. e. a cylinder whose circular faces were moved in a shearing fashion |
| 12:32.43 | clock_ | I would just like to enter the circular faces |
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| 13:18.30 | brlcad | kwizart: requires tcl 8.5+ |
| 13:18.55 | brlcad | clock_: that's a tgc |
| 13:19.09 | brlcad | truncated general cone |
| 13:19.40 | kwizart | well that's what i have in devel... |
| 13:20.03 | kwizart | (Fedora 7 |
| 13:20.37 | brlcad | the config.log script should say why then |
| 13:20.48 | kwizart | ok |
| 13:27.01 | clock_ | mged: ERROR: NULL union tree pointer, file db5_comb.c, line 106 |
| 13:27.10 | clock_ | is that an indication of bug in mged? |
| 13:27.18 | clock_ | After I imported a (probably invalid) ascii database |
| 13:27.59 | kwizart | brlcad, does the configure script is supposed to search for .la file ? (we don't bundled them prefering pkgconfig but tcl uses an old sh %{_libdir}/tclConfig.sh script to help to find it's configuration...) |
| 13:28.20 | kwizart | pastbin the config.log (look a little empty) |
| 13:29.53 | kwizart | http://www.pastebin.ca/434546 |
| 13:30.06 | brlcad | clock_: it's "bad behavior", and a borderline bug -- if you can post the inputs and it's reproducible, it would be worth seeing |
| 13:30.46 | brlcad | in general, bad input readily results in bad behavior when it comes to mged :) |
| 13:30.49 | kwizart | ac_cv_env_CPPFLAGS_value='-I/usr/local/include ' is bad it should be /usr/include but most header are found |
| 13:31.06 | clock_ | brlcad: I want to machine generate a combination in ascii database |
| 13:31.17 | clock_ | do the newlines have a different meaning than spaces? |
| 13:31.37 | brlcad | kwizart: /usr/include is a default search path, /usr/local/include is just an additional |
| 13:31.45 | clock_ | put {turn.c} comb region no tree {u {l cyl.s {1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1}} {u {l cyl.s {0.309016994375 0.951056516295 0 0 -0.951056516295 ... |
| 13:31.48 | clock_ | is that wrong? |
| 13:32.30 | kwizart | ok* |
| 13:32.31 | brlcad | kwizart: something else is wrong there.. error: /bin/sh misc/config.sub /usr/share/config.site failed |
| 13:34.01 | kwizart | hum i've try gnu make and failling a BuildRequires : gnustep-make |
| 13:34.17 | kwizart | does it will help to have a gnu make ? |
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| 13:43.51 | brlcad | kwizart: shouldn't .. though I've only tested gnu and bsd make |
| 13:54.27 | ``Erik | bsd make gets pukey when building out of dir |
| 14:13.31 | ``Erik | tazering that gnome |
| 16:06.34 | clock_ | brlcad: I made a thread from stacked sheared cylinders |
| 16:08.50 | ``Erik | swank |
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| 18:04.27 | deltazap | it built it built! |
| 18:05.20 | deltazap | but now make benchmark and make test fails! :D |
| 18:08.45 | brlcad | clock_: picture? |
| 18:08.54 | brlcad | deltazap: eep :) |
| 18:09.30 | deltazap | just for the fun of it, i ran automake.sh first, then configure with almost-everything and optimize on and jove disabled |
| 18:11.19 | deltazap | it compiled without the bpt trap error, but now test and benchmark fail |
| 18:11.48 | clock_ | brlcad: the only picture I had was in the framebuffer of my graphics card |
| 18:16.07 | clock_ | OVERLAPb: depth 0.00000mm\ |
| 18:16.18 | clock_ | If the depth is 0.00000mm, isn't that called no overlap? |
| 18:19.35 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Added attr and make_name commands. Other minor mods. |
| 18:20.45 | clock_ | I wonder whether the thread code will not be able to be included because it's under GPL, because I don't give a signed paper of some kind, because noone has time to include it or because it's not polished enough or because it's not of imporance for BRL-CAD ;-) |
| 18:22.19 | brlcad | if it'd be any, it'd be because of the first reason |
| 18:22.27 | clock_ | ;-) |
| 18:22.33 | clock_ | or all combined together ;-) |
| 18:22.39 | brlcad | and that's just a precision printing problem on the overlap.. it must be really tiny |
| 18:22.54 | clock_ | what is precision printing? |
| 18:23.14 | clock_ | you mean in the ASCII database? |
| 18:23.16 | brlcad | not having time is a function of perceived importance/impact |
| 18:23.16 | brlcad | sort of the same thing |
| 18:23.33 | brlcad | and nobody has been asked to sign anything |
| 18:23.57 | clock_ | you said I would have to sign a paper saying that I give off the rights to BRL, didn't you? |
| 18:24.03 | brlcad | i mean telling you that the overlap is 0.00000mm thick is a precision printing issue |
| 18:24.18 | clock_ | aha so the overlap actually exists? |
| 18:24.28 | brlcad | yep, it's just < 0.00000mm |
| 18:24.35 | clock_ | well I can give you the database which prints the overlap so you can see if there is an overlap or not |
| 18:24.38 | brlcad | digit-wise |
| 18:24.49 | clock_ | in couple of hours when it compiles and rsyncs |
| 18:24.52 | brlcad | like 0.000001mm |
| 18:26.35 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/helplib.tcl: Added an entry for dm_drawDataAxes |
| 18:28.50 | clock_ | Kafka-esque GPL vs. LGPL :) |
| 18:29.23 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/Display.tcl: Added a units method. |
| 18:31.07 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/Dm.tcl: Added a drawDataAxes method. Also set the default display type to wgl. |
| 18:32.21 | clock_ | brlcad: I want to see the farse when GPLv3 comes out |
| 18:32.55 | brlcad | farse? |
| 18:33.44 | clock_ | Oh sorry, a farce |
| 18:33.52 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/QuadDisplay.tcl: Update the units command to return the current units if args is an empty string. |
| 18:34.03 | clock_ | A farce is a comedy written for the stage, or a film, which aims to entertain the audience by means of unlikely and extravagant-yet often possible-situations, disguise and mistaken identity, verbal humour of varying degrees of sophistication, which may include puns and sexual innuendo, and a fast-paced plot whose speed usually increases even further towards the end of the play, often involving an elaborate chase scene. Broad physical humour, |
| 18:34.40 | deltazap | what would cause the test files not to be created? |
| 18:34.57 | brlcad | deltazap: try running: src/rt/rt |
| 18:36.04 | clock_ | Funny to see how the edge detection algorithm in rtedge reacts to the screw with varying degrees of mental breakdown, depending on the angle of view :) |
| 18:40.08 | clock_ | Saying that multiprocessor systems are faster is like sending three family cars to Formula One and claiming we are going to get the 1st place |
| 18:42.28 | deltazap | brlcad: funny, it responds and gives a version, but completely has the same BPT trap error i've been getting |
| 18:45.18 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/tclscripts/lib/View.tcl: Mods to help keep thing in sync wrt units. |
| 18:45.31 | brlcad | deltazap: pastebin please |
| 18:46.49 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/libdm/dm-wgl.c: Set default backColor to yellow. |
| 18:49.19 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/libdm/ (dm_obj.c axes.c): Added support for the drawDataAxes command. |
| 18:51.54 | deltazap | brlcad: http://pastebin.ca/435035 |
| 18:52.17 | deltazap | i had done a make install, so that's why i'm running it from /usr/brlcad/bin |
| 18:52.32 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/src/conv/stl-g.c: Mods to open input file in untranslated/binary mode on windows. |
| 18:54.56 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/include/dm.h: Added declaration for dmo_drawDataAxes_cmd(). |
| 18:56.44 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/doc/html/manuals/archer/Archer_Documentation.chm: Minor tweaks. |
| 19:00.44 | ``Erik | eeks, bob's at it again |
| 19:00.51 | CIA-14 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * 10brlcad/doc/archer_ack.txt: Made a few minor corrections. |
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| 19:53.25 | clock_ | brlcad: the thread: http://ronja.twibright.com/3d/ at the bottom of the page |
| 20:00.55 | clock_ | or tread? |
| 20:01.58 | brlcad | thread |
| 20:02.01 | brlcad | nifty |
| 20:02.28 | brlcad | would be cooler as a sharp thread |
| 20:03.14 | brlcad | think you can get that with the intersection of an offset |
| 20:04.07 | clock_ | what does intersection of an offset mean? |
| 20:04.22 | clock_ | for an intersection you need two things, only one is not enough |
| 20:04.38 | clock_ | and offset is not a geometrical shape, but an abstract category. You cannot intersect with an offset. |
| 20:11.08 | ``Erik | hrmmmmmm, no images on that page use the height and width attributes? <IMG WIDTH=512 HEIGHT=512 SRC="neatostuff.png"> ? |
| 20:17.27 | IriX64 | whats the lowest version if tcl tahat brl-cad supports please? |
| 20:19.49 | ``Erik | 8.8a1 |
| 20:20.10 | IriX64 | errr ok :) |
| 20:20.33 | ``Erik | O:-) |
| 20:20.47 | IriX64 | been there done that am quite insane now ;) |
| 20:21.36 | ``Erik | we don't test against different tcl versions, so I can't give you an answer.... it works with 8.5a5 (that's what's included), it MIGHT work ok with 8.4, in theory it SHOULD work with 8.0, but you know the saying... |
| 20:21.49 | ``Erik | the difference between practice and theory is much greater in practice than in theory |
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| 20:23.19 | IriX64 | or rather have the souvenire hat with my name on it :) |
| 20:23.19 | IriX64 | got it thanks man |
| 20:23.21 | ``Erik | unless you happen to be both a tcl and automake guru, I'd strongly recommend enabling the build of the included tcl. |
| 20:23.21 | ``Erik | (and if it breaks, we're just going to tell you to use the included tcl, ...) |
| 20:32.41 | IriX64 | proper notes scribbled ``Erik :) |
| 20:35.25 | ``Erik | meeeehhhhhhh, gruntwork |
| 20:39.42 | IriX64 | some guy gave me this and said i should be able to detect what version of tcl is being used by the system, but im getting tcl returned error, should this work, bearing in mind im just a novice at tcl http://www.pastebin.ca/435188 |
| 20:42.18 | ``Erik | seems like an awfully silly and error prone way to examine things O.o |
| 20:42.38 | IriX64 | heh wadda i know :) |
| 20:45.21 | ``Erik | tell ya what |
| 20:45.23 | ``Erik | start mged |
| 20:45.37 | ``Erik | in the command window, type in "info tclversion" and hit the big button on the right |
| 20:45.45 | ``Erik | it prints the version right there of what it's omfg using |
| 20:45.53 | ``Erik | or run tclsh and do thesame |
| 20:46.58 | IriX64 | 8.4 but thats the old mged |
| 20:47.13 | IriX64 | still futzing around with 7-10 |
| 20:47.38 | IriX64 | suppose i should build it just to say i did ;) |
| 20:48.15 | IriX64 | was more liking to working on this tcl thingy though |
| 20:49.11 | ``Erik | well, ok, if it's build time, do this |
| 20:49.20 | ``Erik | grep '^TCL ' Makefile |
| 20:49.23 | IriX64 | what do i care if they dont have some sort of tcl they're on their own im not gonna supply one for them |
| 20:49.33 | ``Erik | mine says: TCL = -L${top_builddir}/src/other/tcl/unix -ltcl8.5 -lm |
| 20:52.21 | IriX64 | mine says 8.4 |
| 20:52.33 | IriX64 | thanks for the help ``Erik |
| 20:55.39 | ``Erik | np |
| 21:03.35 | IriX64 | error prone? mmm does that involve horizontal :) |
| 21:05.19 | IriX64 | errands to run back l8r |
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| 23:05.07 | IriX64 | blankety blank..cflags have changed since last run ... of course, i changed them... why not let me know up front stead of at the end :) |
| 23:05.14 | louipc | hurrah |
| 23:05.24 | IriX64 | ? |
| 23:05.47 | b0ef | has any toolkit been decided on for the new interface? |
| 23:05.51 | IriX64 | new connection? or just fixed :) |
| 23:06.28 | louipc | b0ef: I'm curious about that too :D |
| 23:06.59 | IriX64 | unicos i'm told :) |
| 23:08.25 | louipc | unicos? |
| 23:08.29 | louipc | never heard of it |
| 23:08.43 | IriX64 | cray schtuff |
| 23:09.03 | IriX64 | btw welcome back |
| 23:09.26 | louipc | why would they use cray stuff? |
| 23:09.28 | louipc | hah thanks |
| 23:09.40 | louipc | I'm only booted in a LiveCD |
| 23:09.49 | louipc | my disk crashed and I lost my bootloader |
| 23:10.01 | IriX64 | whoa |
| 23:10.11 | louipc | and for some reason the bootloader on my second disk isn't doing anything at all |
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