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| 02:15.45 | ``Erik | http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=797 |
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| 05:13.56 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: |
| 05:13.56 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: major modification, now supporting projects that don't use one or more of the |
| 05:13.56 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: various autotools (e.g. not using automake, libtool, autoheader, libtool). also |
| 05:13.56 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: now supports projects that have recursive configures that go more than one level |
| 05:13.56 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: deep. |
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| 09:00.19 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: support projects that use the older/deprecated arg-less AC_INIT and instead search for an AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE declaration hopefully instead. also fix a couple missing 'no' typos during manual processing. |
| 09:05.19 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/autogen.sh: some versions of automake report apple's dumb libtoolize problem differently, so try to be more general. |
| 09:05.38 | clock_ | brlcad: does BRL-CAD work on Apple as well? |
| 09:07.09 | brlcad | presume you mean non-mac os x apple? |
| 09:07.53 | brlcad | there have been several ports of brl-cad to older apples running various unices, including the Apple II |
| 09:08.18 | clock_ | I mean modern apple with their mac os x |
| 09:08.27 | brlcad | oh, of course |
| 09:08.34 | clock_ | cool portable :) |
| 09:09.00 | brlcad | it's (arguably) one of the core platforms consistently tested (along with a couple other OSs) |
| 09:09.29 | brlcad | happens to integrate rather well actually |
| 09:10.31 | brlcad | I did the initial port to Mac OS X during the early Pre Beta days |
| 09:12.34 | brlcad | it took me less than a half an hour to get just about everything up and running not including compile time (which was about an hour back then) .. circa end of 2000 |
| 09:14.15 | brlcad | another hour after that, I had smp and multithreading working, and this was all using the old build system -- which was considerly more painful than the one we have now to modify |
| 09:21.21 | clock_ | along with couple of OSes :) |
| 09:22.08 | clock_ | In Linux world it usually works the way that the core developer tests it on the single Linux distribution he happens to have on his desktop and then pronounces it portable |
| 09:22.12 | clock_ | and then in fact it works only on some Linux distros. |
| 09:22.54 | clock_ | Well BRL-CAD is a serious piece of software developed for 30 years by U. S. Army :) |
| 09:23.17 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libbu/stat.c: add bu_same_file() routine to determine whether two file names are indeed the same file or not. presently, the routine falls back to stat() to compare the inode numbers of the files in question |
| 09:23.19 | clock_ | OK 28 years |
| 09:23.28 | clock_ | Actually BRL-CAD is as old as I am :) |
| 09:24.50 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/bu.h: add bu_same_file() declaration so we can use it in places |
| 09:25.53 | brlcad | if you have the readme handy, it shows some of the portability heritage |
| 09:28.38 | brlcad | brl-cad's one of a few pieces of software (mostly limited to compilers, editors, operating systems) that has been "extensively portable" .. predating things like TCP, graphical displays, coding standards (ansi and posix) yet surviving and adapting to them all |
| 09:30.48 | brlcad | there actually used to be checks in the code for "is there tcp/ip networking api facilities available" .. and "does the floating point math behave like a cray 2" |
| 09:38.17 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (include/bu.h src/libbu/stat.c): add the similar routine bu_same_fd() to compare two file descriptors returned by open() |
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| 10:51.01 | Bariton | hi |
| 10:51.10 | Bariton | is it possible to export the framebuffer as image? for example as png? |
| 10:56.31 | Bariton | anybody online? |
| 11:19.05 | Bariton | hey?!?! |
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| 14:08.30 | Maloeran | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6396925.stm - Almost seems fun to play |
| 14:14.33 | brlcad | heh |
| 14:15.10 | archivist | some sad people about |
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| 17:43.54 | lg_ | hi... |
| 17:57.34 | Maloeran | Hi again, brlcad should be able to answer any question you may have this time ;) |
| 17:57.55 | lg_ | ;-) |
| 17:58.21 | lg_ | i will try to describe |
| 18:01.55 | lg_ | basically I was wondering if there is some way to "round" edges |
| 18:02.56 | lg_ | the only way I could figure out so far is to cut away the corner and union a cylinder |
| 18:07.22 | lg_ | in my case, as I want to round edges following rips of a dome (it is for an architectural model), I would have to cut away rings and "fill" with a torus |
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| 18:28.33 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/373296 << anybody know what this is about? |
| 18:34.33 | IriX64 | took silent off, tells me nothing other than its trying to link against it |
| 18:36.44 | IriX64 | awww cmon, I took lgl2 outta the makefile, its still erroring out on it. |
| 18:49.16 | IriX64 | configure finds glenable. |
| 18:50.28 | IriX64 | but opengl is not functionally available. |
| 18:58.47 | ``Erik | lg: you could also build a 'cutter' by intersecting and arb and a cylinder or whatever and use that to difference on your geometry *shrug* but yeah, there is no explicit 'bevel' operation to my knowledge |
| 18:59.32 | ``Erik | if you can do tcl or C, you can do something like a procdb to automate some of that for you, though *shrug* |
| 19:17.30 | lg_ | sorry erik, i am back, my flatmate had been occupying the computer ;-) |
| 19:18.43 | lg_ | i guess manually doing this is easier now, as i do not have that many edges to round |
| 19:20.07 | lg_ | the hard work is to construct all the midpoints and intersections before |
| 19:38.17 | lg_ | see you later, i need a restart now to connect my stupid bluetooth donge, I would like to be able to rotate the view so that I can read the result of labelvert... ;-) |
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| 19:41.36 | brlcad | ahh. just missed em |
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| 20:13.21 | ``Erik | heh, why, was I wrong about something? or is there a clever trick I don't know? :D |
| 20:17.49 | ``Erik | yeah, but I like to at least pretend that I'm right once in a while ;) |
| 20:18.10 | IriX64 | especially if you're right *most of the time ;) |
| 20:20.55 | Maloeran | Mmhm, 80 million rays per second on the very old m1a2. I still remember the first time I broke through 500k, then one million |
| 20:22.04 | ``Erik | different hw, though... |
| 20:24.20 | Maloeran | *nods* Of course |
| 20:24.50 | Maloeran | Had any chance to quickly see if things run on big endian? |
| 20:27.04 | ``Erik | oh, lemme update |
| 20:33.42 | ``Erik | huh, it fails on opteron linux |
| 20:33.45 | ``Erik | "list empty" |
| 20:33.53 | Maloeran | Eh? |
| 20:34.15 | Maloeran | Oh, context creation failed, your $DISPLAY variable again? |
| 20:34.24 | ``Erik | $ uname -m -s -v |
| 20:34.25 | ``Erik | Linux #1 SMP Mon Sep 25 17:24:31 EDT 2006 x86_64 |
| 20:34.37 | ``Erik | ahh |
| 20:35.38 | ``Erik | should the rtgc be endian portable? |
| 20:35.45 | Maloeran | Yes |
| 20:36.44 | ``Erik | ok, with a fresh cache built, it works on g5, but is still yellow |
| 20:37.14 | Maloeran | Darn :), need to look into that bit format code again |
| 20:37.18 | Maloeran | *nods* Right, try that |
| 20:37.36 | Maloeran | So the text printing works on big endian too? Good |
| 20:37.47 | ``Erik | hm, beachballing so far... |
| 20:37.49 | ``Erik | text printing? |
| 20:38.18 | Maloeran | Don't you see text over the viewport? File font00.imtx? |
| 20:38.40 | ``Erik | as I assume you store in something other than network order... |
| 20:39.12 | Maloeran | I store everything in whatever the local machine saves as, but the loading code can read both native and flipped endian |
| 20:39.12 | ``Erik | <-- runs out of dir, didn't link the font map in |
| 20:39.24 | Maloeran | Try with the font file please |
| 20:39.38 | ``Erik | works on the opteron/linux box |
| 20:42.18 | ``Erik | big endian shows text, red and yellow... |
| 20:42.28 | Maloeran | Eheh okay |
| 20:42.42 | Maloeran | And the models still are yellow, neat |
| 20:43.20 | ``Erik | uhhh, hrm |
| 20:43.21 | ``Erik | it stopped |
| 20:43.26 | ``Erik | system load went away |
| 20:43.42 | ``Erik | and rfdemo is beach-balled |
| 20:43.55 | Maloeran | Stopped? Deadlock? |
| 20:44.14 | ``Erik | *shrug* can't tell exactly wat it's doing, but ti's not responsind |
| 20:45.07 | ``Erik | didn't like sigterm, had to sigkill it |
| 20:45.56 | Maloeran | Ahh, it's still yellow because SDL doesn't set the format alpha channel mask member |
| 20:50.12 | ``Erik | hm, that time it didn't lock up :/ |
| 20:50.31 | Maloeran | So there's a lock glitch somewhere |
| 20:56.35 | ``Erik | brlcad, jlo is lookin' for you |
| 20:59.38 | Maloeran | If you ever manage to see that lock happen again, a backtrace would be much appreciated. I would have suggested to enable RF_THREAD_DEBUG to get a clear log, but I guess it's way too rare for that |
| 21:09.06 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/rtif.c: massive cleanup, ws, indentation, rewrite some of the _WIN32 sections so there are fewer duplicate code sections. add a display_error function to report the windows read error via a dialog bog |
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| 21:15.30 | Maloeran | Ah, OSX already has Spin Control and Thread Viewer for that kind of stuff |
| 21:15.44 | brlcad | ``Erik: nah, you weren't wrong -- you do the CSG manually to round edges |
| 21:16.17 | brlcad | there are a couple commands to automatically do this for you for arbs and perhaps cylinders iirc |
| 21:23.13 | brlcad | ahh, here we go.. rcc-tor, rpp-arch, & rcc-cap |
| 21:23.37 | brlcad | all apply a different sort of rounnding |
| 21:57.07 | ``Erik | jason has a class for simd vector math he wants to shove in for nurbs, but wanted to talk to you before making directories for some reason |
| 21:57.26 | ``Erik | (a c++ class... *shudder* be nice if we could de-c++ opennurbs O:-) ) |
| 22:04.13 | brlcad | heh, de-c++ about 200k lines of code? i think not... |
| 22:09.44 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/rtif.c: use bu_same_file() instead of stat() directly to compare whether the saveview script database and the current database are the same file |
| 22:27.05 | CIA-7 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/canon/canonize.1: fact that it uses stat(2) is inconsequential |
| 22:28.06 | ``Erik | hm, the first c++ 'compilers' were preprocessers to generate C code... I d'not what features opennurbs uses |
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| 22:29.09 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/373648 <---- milestone :) |
| 22:29.44 | ``Erik | http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=1671 |
| 22:30.50 | IriX64 | hobbits? they.... |
| 22:30.58 | IriX64 | :) |
| 22:32.32 | IriX64 | xgcc rulz ;) |
| 22:36.31 | IriX64 | do you know how many scripts hardcode gcc in them? |
| 22:38.29 | IriX64 | ``Erik , another angle of havoc, www.spaces.live.com/IriX64 |
| 22:38.50 | brlcad | IriX64: make LDFLAGS=--verbose |
| 22:39.17 | IriX64 | Id be swamped with output :) |
| 22:39.18 | brlcad | see if you can figure out why libpng/libz fail when you enable shared |
| 22:39.41 | IriX64 | told you thats gotta be mine, im not worried bout it for now. |
| 22:39.46 | brlcad | so just compile until it fails with that empty error without it, and then cd src/other && make LDFLAGS=... |
| 22:40.17 | IriX64 | its *not brlcad does the same with apache. |
| 22:40.26 | brlcad | it's not necessarily just yours -- I had some issue with using a shared (system) libz last time I compiled on cygwin |
| 22:41.03 | brlcad | it wasn't the same as your issue, but similar |
| 22:41.12 | IriX64 | ermf ill try it soon as i get this other build attempt out of the way, may be a couple of hours but i will do be patient. |
| 22:45.14 | brlcad | no rush, but it could be informative |
| 22:45.39 | IriX64 | canceled the build configuring now. |
| 22:46.36 | IriX64 | building shared and static as before. |
| 22:51.13 | IriX64 | this is peculiar it wants to build zlib, but i have a system zlib. |
| 22:54.58 | IriX64 | just a second ../../..src/other/libz/libz.la ?????? |
| 22:55.16 | IriX64 | shouldnt that be lo? |
| 22:56.21 | IriX64 | erf why do i do the same with apache tho, still points to me brlcad. |
| 22:56.41 | IriX64 | ill find it later |
| 22:56.58 | IriX64 | right now i want to see -sharedlib test |
| 23:02.41 | IriX64 | libz.la is a link that points to ../libz.la libz.so is a link that points to libz.so.1.1.4 |
| 23:04.28 | IriX64 | ``Erik? using msvc7? I'd be curious to see how that goes. |
| 23:04.33 | ``Erik | cygwin |
| 23:04.50 | IriX64 | ;) |
| 23:06.10 | IriX64 | remember to start with the Cygnus Solutions first and patch your way up :P |
| 23:06.17 | IriX64 | archive. |
| 23:07.30 | ``Erik | cygwin is installed on my xp box, it just doesn't have network connectivity to get the most recent src |
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| 23:12.22 | lg_ | good night out there, here it is one p.m. now |
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| 23:13.24 | IriX64 | crossgcc has a new patch. |
| 23:13.31 | IriX64 | theirs not mine. |
| 23:13.46 | IriX64 | ftp://ftp.cygwin.com |
| 23:23.48 | ``Erik | http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ejvdkuyp/flash/see.htm |
| 23:28.38 | brlcad | heh |
| 23:45.33 | IriX64 | heh indeed. |
| 23:53.30 | IriX64 | http://www.pastebin.ca/373759 <<==== Cassandra dancing :) |
| 23:56.04 | IriX64 | when Cassandra dances, sparcs fly ;) |