| 00:01.06 | ``Erik | mebbe the line should've been changed to reflect the true limit of 32k ? |
| 00:01.14 | Twingy | "It seems that Wolfgang Priklopil, the communications technician who kidnapped Austrian pre-teen Natascha Kampusch, relied on a Commodore 64 as his primary machine. Interestingly this is presenting some problems to the Austrian computer forensics people. Major General Gerhard Lang of the Federal Criminal Investigations Bureau told reporters it would 'complicate investigators' efforts' and would be difficult to transfer the files to m |
| 00:01.14 | Twingy | odern computers 'without loss.' Could this be the latest in the criminal world's security strategy? Can we expect to see Spectrums, Archimedes, and Atari STs turning up in police investigations soon?" |
| 00:01.41 | ``Erik | heh |
| 00:02.04 | ``Erik | damnit, twinky, what'd we tell you about kidnapping preteens? |
| 00:02.30 | ``Erik | (and c64 or sx64?) |
| 00:02.44 | Twingy | I aint looking |
| 00:03.14 | ``Erik | you dredged up an sx64 back in your apt, I dont' remember seeing a c64 :) |
| 00:04.23 | dtidrow_work | Twingy: you have an sx64? I so wanted one of those back when I was in college |
| 00:04.29 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/BUGS: more details on the bizarre -s64 bug |
| 00:04.41 | Twingy | says the sophomore who buys a sports car during a war on oil |
| 00:05.13 | dtidrow_work | I oughta fire up the old Indigo I have and see if it still runs |
| 00:05.14 | Twingy | dtidrow, a co-worker from my last employer gave it to me |
| 00:05.15 | ``Erik | I'm special hurrrrrr |
| 00:05.43 | dtidrow_work | haven't turned it on in years |
| 00:05.49 | Twingy | I have wheel of fortune |
| 00:05.52 | ``Erik | I thought the war was on tar, that's used to make roads, not fuel cars |
| 00:08.44 | dtidrow_work | that reminds me - did you guys see this: http://www.physics.uq.edu.au/pitchdrop/pitchdrop.shtml |
| 00:45.40 | Maloeran | Mmhm, neat |
| 00:46.32 | dtidrow_work | watching paint dry is nothing compared to watching pitch drip :-) |
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| 01:23.24 | ``Erik | glass does the same thing *shrug* |
| 01:43.11 | IriX64 | glass of? ;) |
| 01:43.55 | IriX64 | perhaps he prefers bottle of? :) |
| 01:49.09 | ``Erik | no, like, window panes |
| 01:49.11 | ``Erik | fucktard |
| 01:49.12 | ``Erik | :) |
| 01:49.47 | IriX64 | hrmph, only if yoyu're a woman will I accepts that. :) |
| 01:50.34 | IriX64 | windows can't afford any more pain ``Erik :) |
| 01:50.42 | IriX64 | pains too |
| 01:51.33 | IriX64 | smokity break. |
| 01:52.18 | Maloeran | ``Erik, it's more interesting when it's at room temperature :} |
| 01:53.35 | ``Erik | mal: windows at room temperature are fluid... if you look at a hundred year old window pane, it's thicker at the bottom than the top |
| 01:55.49 | Maloeran | Woah. I see, I really didn't know that |
| 02:03.38 | IriX64 | unless its plexiglass. |
| 02:05.23 | IriX64 | did you people ever look at the files I sent to ftp.brlcad.org some time ago? |
| 02:30.33 | ``Erik | no. |
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| 16:02.38 | mauryzyo | hello everybody |
| 16:02.56 | mauryzyo | I have a problem in the installation of brl-cad |
| 16:03.12 | mauryzyo | is there anybody that could help? |
| 16:05.54 | mauryzyo | is it possible to install brl-cad in the Applications directory? |
| 16:08.21 | Maloeran | What operating system would that be? Compiling from source or installing binaries? |
| 16:11.27 | ``Erik | "Applications" directory is very much a mac thing, afaik |
| 16:12.19 | mauryzyo | I have mac osx |
| 16:12.20 | ``Erik | you should be able to install brlcad anywhere you have write and execute permission, so /Applications is ok, but brlcad does not have a bundle, so it's not friendly to how finder works... |
| 16:12.46 | mauryzyo | erik... no problem |
| 16:13.00 | mauryzyo | I can install it where you want |
| 16:13.17 | mauryzyo | but I don't know how |
| 16:13.17 | mauryzyo | I have the file .pkg |
| 16:13.26 | mauryzyo | I have run the .pkg |
| 16:13.32 | mauryzyo | then I go to terminal |
| 16:13.40 | mauryzyo | and I go to /usr |
| 16:13.52 | mauryzyo | and there there is the brlcad folder |
| 16:13.53 | mauryzyo | ok |
| 16:14.01 | ``Erik | export PATH=$PATH:/usr/brlcad/bin |
| 16:14.04 | mauryzyo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.05 | ``Erik | then you can run "mged" |
| 16:14.15 | ``Erik | you MIGHT need to be running X11.app |
| 16:14.24 | mauryzyo | I have x11 |
| 16:14.49 | mauryzyo | but... if I go to /usr/brlcad/bin |
| 16:14.56 | mauryzyo | ther eis not a file mged |
| 16:15.01 | ``Erik | mebbe it's mged.sh |
| 16:15.05 | ``Erik | ? |
| 16:16.09 | mauryzyo | when I go to /usr/brlcad/bin |
| 16:16.16 | mauryzyo | I write ls -i |
| 16:16.29 | mauryzyo | it tells me that there are no files |
| 16:16.32 | mauryzyo | nothing... |
| 16:17.19 | ``Erik | :o |
| 16:17.43 | mauryzyo | I don't understand where the problem is |
| 16:17.46 | ``Erik | sounds like maybe the pkg is broken? was it really a pkg, not just a dmg with a directory to drag? |
| 16:17.53 | mauryzyo | if I made mistakes during the installation process |
| 16:18.08 | mauryzyo | a pkg |
| 16:18.20 | ``Erik | hrm, brlcad would be the guy to talk to about that |
| 16:18.39 | ``Erik | if you lurk long enough, he'll look at irc again *shrgu* |
| 16:20.48 | mauryzyo | erik.. |
| 16:21.07 | mauryzyo | could you give me the right link and I retry to reinstall it? |
| 16:21.24 | ``Erik | right link? I always build mine from source... |
| 16:21.47 | ``Erik | if you want to do that, http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/brlcad/brlcad-7.8.2.tar.gz?download |
| 16:22.17 | ``Erik | then untar it, go into the dir, run "./configure && make && make install" |
| 16:22.30 | ``Erik | then go have a nice cup of coffee and read the morning paper, cuz it'll take a while |
| 16:22.58 | mauryzyo | ok Erik I download it |
| 16:23.12 | mauryzyo | and then please assist me during the installation |
| 16:23.22 | mauryzyo | I need this program absolutely |
| 16:23.23 | mauryzyo | :-)))) |
| 16:24.06 | ``Erik | <-- just gave you the q&d 'how to install', plus the source package has a file named INSTALL |
| 16:25.29 | mauryzyo | ok |
| 16:25.42 | mauryzyo | but it is one day that I try... |
| 16:25.55 | mauryzyo | I have downloaded it now |
| 16:28.26 | mauryzyo | sorry but... |
| 16:28.29 | mauryzyo | x11 |
| 16:28.40 | mauryzyo | is a windows server? |
| 16:28.54 | mauryzyo | Do I have to install it in my mac osx? |
| 16:29.25 | ``Erik | yesh, the X windowing system, unix for graphics... if you have tiger (10.4), it should be on your install dvd |
| 16:30.11 | mauryzyo | ok |
| 16:30.23 | mauryzyo | I have seen that I already have this program |
| 16:30.30 | mauryzyo | in the Applications folder |
| 16:30.37 | mauryzyo | I never used if before |
| 16:30.44 | mauryzyo | now... |
| 16:30.56 | mauryzyo | I downloaded the file you gave to me |
| 16:31.02 | mauryzyo | I opened it |
| 16:31.18 | mauryzyo | and there is a folder brlcad-7.8.2 |
| 16:31.28 | mauryzyo | I hope all is ok |
| 16:31.40 | ``Erik | go in there, and run "./configure" |
| 16:32.14 | mauryzyo | ok |
| 16:32.17 | mauryzyo | with x11? |
| 16:32.28 | mauryzyo | Do I open x11 before? |
| 16:32.28 | ``Erik | either an xterm or a Terminal.app |
| 16:32.32 | ``Erik | it doesn't matter at this point |
| 16:32.38 | mauryzyo | ok |
| 16:32.46 | ``Erik | <-- likes xterm more than Terminal.app :) |
| 16:33.01 | mauryzyo | I open the Terminal |
| 16:33.16 | mauryzyo | I go to the folder brlcad-7.8.2 |
| 16:33.28 | mauryzyo | and I run |
| 16:33.29 | mauryzyo | ./configure |
| 16:33.38 | mauryzyo | I write ./configure |
| 16:34.15 | ``Erik | lots of text scroll, I hope |
| 16:36.54 | mauryzyo | I did |
| 16:36.55 | mauryzyo | configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 16:37.26 | ``Erik | ooh, you need the developer kit installed, get it from your install dvd, sorry hehehe |
| 16:38.37 | mauryzyo | what? |
| 16:39.06 | ``Erik | "xcode" |
| 16:39.12 | mauryzyo | It is too much difficult for me |
| 16:39.17 | mauryzyo | to install this program |
| 16:41.54 | Maloeran | The package for OSX binaries out of the sourceforge files doesn't work? That's what you used, right? |
| 16:43.09 | ``Erik | apparently brlcad/bin was empty, alexis... *shrug* |
| 16:44.11 | Maloeran | Just making sure he used the official package and not some other, but I don't suppose there are dozen package management systems on OSX as on Linux |
| 16:45.01 | ``Erik | well, there's a few big mechanisms on mac... the pkg system, the bundle drag&drop way, the 'installshield' and 'installit' third party apps... :/ |
| 16:46.49 | ``Erik | installing... |
| 16:47.06 | ``Erik | hm |
| 16:47.10 | ``Erik | I see a very full /usr/brlcad/bin |
| 16:47.21 | ``Erik | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.30 | ``Erik | /usr/brlcad/bin$ ls | wc -l |
| 16:47.58 | ``Erik | /usr/brlcad$ du -s . |
| 16:47.58 | ``Erik | 176144 . |
| 16:48.31 | ``Erik | yeah, works for me, the pkg is ok... *shrug* mebbe you need to rm -rf /usr/brlcad and try the pkg again? |
| 16:50.48 | ``Erik | alexis: do I get to see pretty pictures on friday? :D |
| 16:51.10 | Maloeran | Won't be very pretty yet, but sure :) |
| 16:51.44 | Maloeran | It's a lot more work than one could think, I'm writing this raytracing pipeline to handle dynamic geometry with multiple graphs already |
| 16:51.56 | Maloeran | No point in doing anything less to see the code being thrown away later |
| 16:52.34 | ``Erik | okie, coo' |
| 16:53.22 | Maloeran | I haven't really looked into this "convenience library" stuff, mm.c still needs fixing, plus I'll be reusing some code ( old libfrti ) for multiple demos |
| 16:53.55 | Maloeran | If you are ever incredibly bored, setting an autoconf/automake/libtools framework for this stuff would be appreciated ;) |
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| 19:06.55 | ``Erik | heh |
| 19:07.33 | ``Erik | ohyeah, btw, because you used make style behaviors instead of autoconf style behaviors, your program only compiles on linux... |
| 19:07.37 | ``Erik | :D |
| 19:14.50 | Maloeran | Feel free to pinpoint problems more precisely, I don't have fbsd around at the moment |
| 19:15.35 | ValarQ | IriX64: foo |
| 20:39.18 | IriX64 | ValarQ: fo is Gods function :) |
| 20:39.24 | IriX64 | foo too |
| 20:40.55 | ValarQ | :p) |
| 20:41.41 | ValarQ | IriX64: lightened your desktop yet? |
| 20:41.51 | IriX64 | ValarQ: which .g file is yours? |
| 20:42.05 | IriX64 | and no i havent its still pretty heavy:) |
| 20:42.14 | ValarQ | no .g file is mine |
| 20:42.33 | IriX64 | push of a button it all goes away anyway :) |
| 20:43.49 | ValarQ | http://arda.no-ip.org/fancydesktop.png |
| 20:43.57 | ValarQ | my new fancy desktop :) |
| 20:45.50 | IriX64 | you're good. |
| 20:46.03 | IriX64 | im not that advanced yet. :) |
| 20:46.44 | IriX64 | XL? |
| 20:47.01 | ValarQ | XL? |
| 20:47.13 | IriX64 | forgot the name of that package. |
| 20:47.22 | ValarQ | XGL? |
| 20:47.23 | IriX64 | XGL? |
| 20:47.27 | IriX64 | heh |
| 20:47.28 | ValarQ | :) |
| 20:47.39 | ``Erik | mal: libdl is very linux. |
| 20:47.39 | IriX64 | havent got that yet. |
| 20:47.42 | ValarQ | XGL/Compiz to be more precise |
| 20:47.52 | IriX64 | thankyou. |
| 20:48.20 | IriX64 | does it cause you're knuckles to bleed? |
| 20:48.29 | ``Erik | hrmmmm |
| 20:48.30 | ``Erik | with gnome? |
| 20:49.04 | ``Erik | and I guess that's irssi, not bx? |
| 20:49.05 | Maloeran | Erik, POSIX 1003.1-2003 describes dlclose(), dlerror(), dlopen(), and dlsym(). |
| 20:49.12 | Maloeran | What's specific to Linux? |
| 20:49.21 | ``Erik | mal: yes, and sane systems, since it's a POSIX set, put it in libc |
| 20:49.49 | ``Erik | glibc used to have it in libc.so, too, but they broke it out |
| 20:49.52 | ValarQ | IriX64: not yet |
| 20:49.58 | Maloeran | Oh well, then it's just the automake stuff which needs fixing |
| 20:52.21 | ``Erik | in configure.ac, use the search-libs to find the function, and set DL to whatever is returned, then AC_SUBST and add @DL@ when dl* is needed :) |
| 20:53.19 | ``Erik | libtool has some shtuff for that, too |
| 20:53.42 | ValarQ | IriX64: http://arda.no-ip.org/brlcadshot.png |
| 20:55.34 | clock_ | good ole chopper |
| 20:56.47 | ``Erik | Mi-28 |
| 20:57.05 | ``Erik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-28 |
| 20:57.07 | ``Erik | :D |
| 20:59.34 | IriX64 | transparent? how cool is that coolness? |
| 21:00.45 | IriX64 | ``Erik... one word gag me with a spoon :) |
| 21:01.52 | IriX64 | XGL...good stuff ValarQ:? |
| 21:02.13 | IriX64 | is source available? |
| 21:05.28 | ValarQ | yes |
| 21:05.46 | IriX64 | where? one i found is for suse. |
| 21:06.26 | ValarQ | i use the portage overlay for gentoo |
| 21:06.49 | IriX64 | all specific tho right? |
| 21:07.00 | ValarQ | what? |
| 21:07.39 | IriX64 | all specific to an os? is a platform independant version of the source available like brlcad? |
| 21:08.52 | ValarQ | i guess it depends pretty hard on OpenGL and unix sockets (it's X after all) |
| 21:09.01 | ValarQ | but it should work on any system |
| 21:09.17 | IriX64 | so whos code should i borrow:) |
| 21:09.47 | ValarQ | i believe freedesktop got the cvs repo |
| 21:10.10 | ValarQ | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fXgl |
| 21:10.50 | IriX64 | thwy have 5 components where's the beef:) |
| 21:11.22 | ValarQ | it's gonna be pretty much work to set it up from source on your own... |
| 21:12.31 | IriX64 | tell me about it. (sticky note applied to ValarQ's forehead...remind Irix64 of this in a month ) :) |
| 21:14.02 | ValarQ | heh |
| 21:16.59 | IriX64 | just so we're comparing apples with apples, gentoo=gnu64? |
| 21:17.51 | IriX64 | or are we back in gnu32? |
| 21:20.31 | IriX64 | btw you should rotate that helicoptor ValarQ. |
