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| 00:43.11 | IriX64 | greet. |
| 00:44.13 | IriX64 | BrlCad on leave? |
| 00:55.50 | IriX64 | say would any of you be able to runtime test a sparc-sun-sunos irssi? |
| 01:18.09 | IriX64 | checking size of off_t... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross |
| 01:18.11 | IriX64 | compiling |
| 01:18.22 | IriX64 | why don they just make an assumption? |
| 01:22.10 | IriX64 | i set it to 4 (if you have bigger it should still work) |
| 01:25.11 | IriX64 | int. |
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| 17:29.06 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/sh/lines.sh: compute how many lines of the source code are actually blank and don't include those numbers in the totals for a slightly better/invariant approximation |
| 17:30.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/bwish/tcl.c: init array to zero |
| 17:31.50 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_X24.c: avoid crash -- if the interface is null, just return |
| 17:32.54 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/libfb.dsp: use IF_WGL now instead of IF_OGL, as well as if_wgl.c instead of if_ogl_win32.c |
| 17:34.50 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/tcl.c: add support for the new 'wgl' WindowsGL interface |
| 17:35.22 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/mged/Makefile.am: add support for the new 'wgl' WindowsGL interface |
| 18:06.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_metaball.c: |
| 18:06.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Major fixes to bounding sphere generation. |
| 18:06.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Break bigger functions down a bit for reuse and easier reading. |
| 18:06.36 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Draw the bounding sphere in rt_metaball_plot (may be backed out later). |
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| 18:14.37 | ``Erik | hrm |
| 18:18.12 | ``Erik | sean, ya handy? |
| 18:18.43 | ``Erik | (and is what's-his-name there with you?) |
| 19:32.07 | b0ef | is it a goal for BRL-CAD to support a full NURBS manipulation environment with the new interface? |
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| 20:02.14 | IriX64 | brlcad qualifies as a ton of source code :) |
| 20:03.06 | b0ef | does the brl-cad NURBS tools, which are not visible in the editor, support a full range of operations on NURBS? |
| 20:04.04 | IriX64 | define nurbs, i'm a neophyte. |
| 20:04.50 | b0ef | IriX64: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurbs |
| 20:05.03 | IriX64 | ty. |
| 20:06.45 | IriX64 | fer cris sake a wave modeler? |
| 20:07.36 | IriX64 | i'll try it after i get it built again :) |
| 20:09.10 | b0ef | IriX64: the NURBS tools are not accessible with the current editor |
| 20:10.47 | IriX64 | thankyou but you should still be able to run them from mged |
| 20:11.19 | IriX64 | or is that the current editor you're talking about meaning the geometry editor? |
| 20:12.50 | b0ef | yes, you can't manipulate NURBS |
| 20:13.05 | b0ef | you can only import NURBS, but not do anything with them |
| 20:13.07 | IriX64 | but you said nurbs *tools. |
| 20:13.40 | b0ef | yes, there are apparently some NURBS tools in the code, but the are not accessible from anywhere |
| 20:13.59 | IriX64 | try ./tool :) |
| 20:14.05 | b0ef | s/the are/they are/ |
| 20:14.26 | IriX64 | ./tool.exe |
| 20:19.44 | ``Erik | nurb support was a thing that was being worked on and the person like retired or something, so work stopped... thten it was reassigned to someone a few months back, and he worked on it, and then he got assigned to a different project... |
| 20:19.49 | ``Erik | irix, you're a tool.exe. |
| 20:20.34 | IriX64 | try it. (I am gemoetry) :) |
| 20:20.36 | ``Erik | so, nurbs are an incomplete primitive... :) |
| 20:21.31 | b0ef | ``Erik: yes, but is it the goal of BRL-CAD to support extensive NURBS manipulation?;) |
| 20:21.59 | ``Erik | it was the intent a couple times in history... I believe it's a perpetual intent, but when the boss says "quit that, work on this instead"... *shrug* :) |
| 20:22.10 | ``Erik | feel free to code up the rest of the nurbs stuff if you want it that bad :D |
| 20:22.24 | ``Erik | the most recent efforts were moved into a branch in april |
| 20:22.39 | IriX64 | in other words take it up with his boss. |
| 20:22.44 | IriX64 | heh sorry. |
| 20:23.43 | IriX64 | ``Erik? Archer works on my windows box, but the *nix implementation, incomplete? |
| 20:23.47 | b0ef | ``Erik: ;), it's a little out of my scope for the moment, but I just wanted to clarify if it was the goal and it is; thanks |
| 20:24.01 | ``Erik | archer was written for widnows, the idea to port it to *nix is being discussed... |
| 20:24.25 | ``Erik | b0ef: http://brlcad.cvs.sourceforge.net/brlcad/brlcad/librt/g_nurb.c?hideattic=0&view=log |
| 20:24.32 | ``Erik | before the dir reorg :) |
| 20:25.44 | IriX64 | you're a good woman ``Erik. :) |
| 20:27.50 | IriX64 | wonder if he still has lucy van pelt, he founded an industry with that floppy door latch thing. |
| 20:32.00 | IriX64 | time for a breath of air bbiab. |
| 20:54.14 | IriX64 | ``Erik? if i wanted to share some of my stuff, must i go through cvs? |
| 20:57.11 | IriX64 | is ftp.brlcad.org an official brl-cad server? |
| 21:05.23 | ``Erik | uhhhh, share what stuff? |
| 21:06.50 | IriX64 | code both binaries & sorce :) |
| 21:10.30 | siggraph | b0ef: full range of operations except trimmings .. that was very recently being worked on but is incomplete afaik |
| 21:12.38 | siggraph | b0ef: i would say the intent is to eventually add full nurbs manipulation support in the modeling environment, as well as possibly use the nurbs in-memory representation as a means to support b-rep dual representations of implicits to allow for more flexible editing operations as needed |
| 21:13.10 | siggraph | just need someone that's interested enough to make it their own, get knee deep in code, and flesh it out |
| 21:15.45 | siggraph | IriX64: archer is inherintly cross-platform.. but it's currently expecting to be able to load a plugin and that code hasn't been hashed out really |
| 21:16.25 | ``Erik | sean |
| 21:16.31 | siggraph | IriX64: if you have source changes, there are instructions in the HACKING file on making a universal diff and where it can be posted (basically to the sf.net patches tracker) |
| 21:16.42 | ``Erik | still near what's-his-name? |
| 21:16.56 | siggraph | i haven't seen em since tues |
| 21:17.00 | ``Erik | ah |
| 21:17.05 | ``Erik | didja see... my balls? :D |
| 21:17.31 | IriX64 | the.... galls:) |
| 21:18.05 | ``Erik | http://math.missouristate.edu/~erik/niceballs.png hehehe |
| 21:18.24 | IriX64 | still waiting on a reply re the server. |
| 21:19.28 | siggraph | ``Erik: coolness |
| 21:22.41 | IriX64 | more i look at it... maybe the march of the balls.:) |
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| 21:33.50 | b0ef | siggraph: that's excellent to hear;) - this would include hierarchical NURBS as well, right?. (stitching together surfaces of different resolutions) |
| 21:39.20 | siggraph | to properly stitch together surfaces, you really need to be able to trim (some of) them for certain operations |
| 21:39.54 | siggraph | otherwise, you can even mix them with implicits and they'll evaluate correctly |
| 21:42.48 | b0ef | yes, trimming is very important;) |
| 22:05.22 | Twingy | you don't need trimming to stitch together surface |
| 22:06.20 | Twingy | you can do it with knot insertion using a third surface |
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| 22:10.42 | b0ef | Twingy: ah, you're the maintainer of nurbana;) |
| 22:13.27 | Twingy | or lack there of |
| 22:13.41 | b0ef | well, yeah, one day;) |
| 22:13.53 | b0ef | you should publish your paypal account;) |
| 22:14.33 | Twingy | nurbana was a learning experience |
| 22:17.00 | b0ef | you intend to pursue it with BRL-CAD? |
| 22:17.39 | Twingy | given the projects I'm currently involved with (Rocketry, GCAM, House Work) I'm afraid it won't happen |
| 22:18.52 | b0ef | sad; NURBS is really lacking in the free software world |
| 22:19.03 | b0ef | siggraph: have you decided on gtk+ yet?;) |
| 22:19.09 | siggraph | heh |
| 22:19.12 | b0ef | hehe |
| 22:19.20 | b0ef | indeed |
| 22:19.22 | pra5ad | siggraph: try out the full body DDR? |
| 22:19.44 | siggraph | pra5ad: they had that a couple years ago |
| 22:19.56 | pra5ad | is it production quality now? |
| 22:21.16 | Twingy | running a freebsd vm to do all my development on my mac is bliss |
| 22:22.23 | siggraph | pra5ad: pretty much |
| 22:22.37 | siggraph | there was much cooler stuff than that in emerging tech, though |
| 22:22.59 | Twingy | I can embrace apple as my desktop machine of choice |
| 22:23.21 | pra5ad | oh bice |
| 22:23.24 | pra5ad | nice* |
| 22:24.15 | Twingy | all on the same laptop |
| 22:27.49 | ``Erik | does it have a serial port? or do you have a usb/serial converter? |
| 22:28.52 | ``Erik | (or are you driving the programmer on a bsd or winderz box and just generating hex images on the lappie?) |
| 22:29.13 | Twingy | I ordered 2 yesterday |
| 22:29.20 | Twingy | seriolo |
| 22:29.26 | Twingy | $17 a piece |
| 22:29.41 | Twingy | my pair of semitech's are only supports by winbloze |
| 22:30.06 | ``Erik | I bought one a while back supported on winderz and mac, but lacking decent serial devices, haven't gotten it working yet |
| 22:30.27 | Twingy | I'm going to use mine with my garmin etrex |
| 22:30.51 | ``Erik | ooh, yeah, I got a legend with a serial cable somewhere... |
| 22:31.38 | Twingy | I just hope our parallels licenses come in before mine expires in 12 days |
| 22:33.01 | ``Erik | <-- likes shelling into a fbsd box to do dev, would rather avoid being in the same room as all the noise and heat from compiling :) |
| 22:33.57 | Twingy | doesn't work so well when you're in the middle of desert in yuma |
| 22:34.42 | ``Erik | true |
| 22:40.24 | Twingy | I'm saving so much money by eating $3 microwavable lunches |
| 22:40.51 | ``Erik | I spent $25 on eating out last month, heh |
| 22:40.55 | Twingy | I get cranky when I don't eat |
| 22:41.23 | ``Erik | me, too, I even got cranky in channel yesterday hehehehe |
| 22:41.53 | ``Erik | combination of no food, lack of caffeine, and totally wrong documentation |
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