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| 03:02.59 | IriX64 | yah, but you don't know all the players ;) |
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| 14:23.32 | siggraph | hmm |
| 14:23.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libtclcad/tkCanvBezier.c: |
| 14:23.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: finally rewrite tkCanvBezier to NOT use libtk internal headers (as it was |
| 14:23.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: written as a proper new libtk Canvas type, but hasn't been pushed through the |
| 14:23.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: tcl/tk 'TIP' process). this change should make it feasible to compile this code |
| 14:23.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: without having to have a copy of the Tk sources around .. more testing needed. |
| 14:24.17 | siggraph | justin_: you got a brief mention at one of the courses yesterday from Ingo iirc |
| 14:26.01 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libtclcad/tclcadTkSetup.c: remove old comment |
| 14:26.59 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libtclcad/tkImgFmtPIX.c: removing the asize.c bn_common_* file autosizing functions, consolidating them to libfb. so update the function names to fb_ now |
| 14:39.10 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/config_win.h: windows apparently doesn't have socklen_t defined, so make it an int so that WIN32 hacks can be removed |
| 14:39.42 | clock_ | bor #ifndef socklen_t #define socklen_t int #endif |
| 14:48.52 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libbu/parallel.c: run the provided function single-threaded even if bu_parallel() is called on a system that doesn't have PARALLEL support compiled in |
| 15:01.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/ext.h: don't need to (nor should we) declare worker() here |
| 15:02.37 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/worker.c: reorder functions so that forward declarations are not needed |
| 15:03.53 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (32 files in 9 dirs): |
| 15:03.53 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: refactor the three asize.c implementations (libbn, libfb, & canon) into just |
| 15:03.53 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: one. libbn had the most comprehensive and updated version, but the logic |
| 15:03.53 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: belongs in libfb. so, the bn_common autosizing functions are now consolidated |
| 15:03.53 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: to libfb, refactoring accordingly. |
| 15:20.55 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/fbserv/ (Makefile.am fbserv.c fbserv_win.c): |
| 15:20.56 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: refactor fbserv.c and fbserv_win.c so that there is only one file that |
| 15:20.56 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: supports/contains all of the mods that fbserv_win.c was presuming. this needs |
| 15:20.56 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: testing but is more functionally clean, relying on configure-style tests/defines |
| 15:20.56 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: instead of WIN32 where easily possible |
| 15:33.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: (log message trimmed) |
| 15:33.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: try enabling the automatic detection/compilation of tcl/tk now that |
| 15:33.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: tkCanvasBezier is cleaned up to not use internal Tk headers. probably still |
| 15:33.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: need to work on Tcl autopath issues, but give it a shot. also add a slew of |
| 15:33.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: checks for WGL so that a new framebuffer and display manager interface may be |
| 15:33.26 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: defined on Windows that is separate from the ogl interface. this is important |
| 15:33.28 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: for cygwin/mingw systems where it is possible to use both wgl and ogl style |
| 15:34.20 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/dm-wgl.h: initial dm-wgl.h header for a new 'wgl' interface, separating it from the X11-based ogl interface and cleaning up the code |
| 15:35.11 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/dm-ogl.h: make the 'ogl' interface be X11 OpenGL only. windows is being moved to its own 'wgl' interface |
| 15:38.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/ (NEWS include/light.h src/liboptical/sh_light.c): allow unlimited light samples during ray-tracing instead of a fixed compile-time count (was 128) |
| 15:39.18 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/fbserv/fbserv.vcproj: fbserv_win.c was consolidated into fbserv.c |
| 15:40.14 | ``Erik | dagnabbit, another hchange to configure.ac |
| 15:40.58 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/libdm/libdm.vcproj: |
| 15:40.58 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: use the new DM_WGL interface instead of the former DM_OGL interface so that the |
| 15:40.58 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: latter may also be compiled at the same time (e.g. cygwin/mingw environments) |
| 15:40.58 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: but also to allow the ogl interface to consistently imply just one interface. |
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| 15:44.28 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libdm/dm-ogl.c: update comment to note that the ogl interface is specifically an X11 OpenGL interface (i.e. it's XGL.. might want to rename it to that someday, but oh well). ws |
| 15:45.29 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: libfb now compiles asize.c as it was updated and refactored with the better libbn version. compress.c is not really relevant/useful any longer. |
| 15:46.23 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/liboptical/sh_prj.c: unused/unnecessary ../rt/ext.h header |
| 15:47.13 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rt/ (Makefile.am light.h): the 'local' light.h header was redundant with include/light.h so remove it |
| 15:50.10 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libsysv/ (9 files): remove the obsolete regular expression implementation, there is a src/other/libregex that is more up-to-date. |
| 15:51.46 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/compress.c: remove the obsolete compress.c file .. can be restored from revision history should someone really ever need to revisit compression on such old hardware |
| 15:52.11 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/Makefile.am: install the new dm-wgl.h header |
| 15:52.50 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/misc/win32-msvc7/ (libtclcad/libtclcad.vcproj mged/mged.vcproj): use the DM_WGL interface instead of DM_OGL |
| 15:53.05 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/adrt/libcommon/Makefile.am: removed comment |
| 15:53.52 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libbn/Makefile.am: remove asize.c file -- was refactored into src/libfb/asize.c |
| 15:54.57 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libdm/Makefile.am: add dm-wgl.c to the compilation list based on the WITH_WGL automake symbol being defined by configure -- this allows the wgl interface to be simultaneously compiled alongside the ogl interface |
| 15:55.52 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/rttherm/viewtherm.c: use the main light.h header, not the (now gone) private src/rt/light.h header |
| 15:59.18 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libdm/dm-wgl.c: |
| 15:59.18 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: add an initial implementation of a WindowsGL 'wgl' libdm interface using the |
| 15:59.18 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: former dm-ogl_win32.c code as a basis. remove the XGL sections and add |
| 15:59.18 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: boilerplate checks that makes sure this interface can be compiled alongside the |
| 15:59.18 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 'ogl' interface. expects DM_OGL to be defined in order to get functionality. |
| 16:01.31 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_wgl.c: |
| 16:01.32 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: initial stub of a libfb IF_WGL 'wgl' interface to replace usage of 'ogl' on |
| 16:01.32 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Windows. this is done to support the libdm design intent of interfaces for each |
| 16:01.32 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: style of display manager, instead of piggy-backing on top of 'ogl' and |
| 16:01.32 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: complicating the code with preprocessor WIN32 checks everywhere. haven't |
| 16:01.32 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: updated the names/code yet.. just a stub file. |
| 16:02.13 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: add the new if_wgl.c file, not yet compiled |
| 16:03.39 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/ (20 files in 20 dirs): update the usage of LIBRT from configure to be RT instead so that it is consistent with the other BU, BN, WDB etc library defines, using the LIB prefix mostly on third party or external libraries instead. |
| 16:09.01 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: check for the WITH_WGL symbol from configure to add the WGL cflags |
| 16:09.37 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: oops, typo.. close the macro |
| 16:11.47 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/configure.ac: bah, another.. wgl_link_works, not gl_link_works |
| 16:21.24 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/if_wgl.c: update names, s/ogl/wgl/ |
| 16:22.01 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/Makefile.am: compile if_wgl.c now that it'll check for IF_WGL being defined |
| 16:25.26 | ValarQ | siggraph: changed nick? |
| 16:36.34 | siggraph | ValarQ: hmm? |
| 16:37.58 | ValarQ | or where is that @brlcad fellow? |
| 16:38.08 | siggraph | ah |
| 16:38.15 | siggraph | yes, same fellow |
| 16:38.39 | ValarQ | ok :) |
| 16:38.41 | siggraph | i'm at the annual ACM Siggraph conference this week |
| 16:40.55 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/jack/Makefile.am: g-jack needs his libraries too |
| 16:40.57 | siggraph | for those that have known me on irc for a long time, it's their queue that I'm in and out of rooms, not on-line as much .. busy etc ;) |
| 16:43.14 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/conv/patch/Makefile.am: use RT now instead of LIBRT |
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| 17:24.49 | IriX64 | ``Erik: apologies for last night, I keep forgetting announcements here are taken seriously, should have put a smiley face on that. I'll watch it from now on. |
| 17:32.21 | IriX64 | was just trying to tell you my code generator is coming along nicely ``Erik. |
| 17:33.49 | IriX64 | don't use --host, set the build switch and if a cross compiler is detected it will be used, you know? |
| 17:35.13 | IriX64 | you want my config.log? |
| 17:36.55 | IriX64 | its in config.sub you know, the t90-cray-unicos. |
| 17:38.19 | IriX64 | i've tackled maybe 20% of whats in config.sub. |
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| 17:41.11 | IriX64 | mmm the nmi pin? |
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| 17:41.47 | IriX64 | guess not :) |
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| 17:53.04 | IriX64 | hahah ./jove ==>segmentation fault core dumped |
| 17:53.27 | IriX64 | now how do i get runtime testing? :) |
| 17:53.32 | ValarQ | emerge emacs # :P |
| 17:53.40 | IriX64 | heh yah. |
| 17:54.00 | IriX64 | got a t90 ValarQ? |
| 17:54.24 | ValarQ | no |
| 17:54.38 | IriX64 | heh me either ill just inspect the code. |
| 17:54.44 | ValarQ | i guess you mean one of these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-90 |
| 17:55.13 | ValarQ | i would love to get my hands on one :) |
| 17:55.47 | ValarQ | "125 mm smoothbore gun with ATGM capability" :D |
| 17:56.02 | IriX64 | hahhahah my cross compiler doesn't support *That t90. :) |
| 17:56.08 | ValarQ | aw :( |
| 17:56.17 | IriX64 | nice ride? |
| 17:56.58 | IriX64 | wouldn't rifling it make it go more far more accuratly? |
| 17:57.03 | ValarQ | i don't think so, they usually isn't very comfortable |
| 17:58.26 | ValarQ | we only had 75mm canons where i used to work... |
| 17:59.19 | IriX64 | 75mm , question stands would rifling the barrel help? |
| 17:59.32 | ValarQ | don't know actually |
| 18:00.00 | IriX64 | help on hunting weapons, even arrows these days twist in flight. |
| 18:00.05 | IriX64 | helps too. |
| 18:00.17 | ValarQ | yeah, but here the forces is much bigger |
| 18:00.33 | IriX64 | physics cares little about scale. |
| 18:00.42 | siggraph | IriX64: do you have a backtrace? |
| 18:00.55 | IriX64 | what the core dump? |
| 18:01.01 | ValarQ | IriX64: true, but not necessary the materials |
| 18:01.05 | siggraph | no, the backgrace |
| 18:01.16 | ValarQ | s/necessary/necessarily/ |
| 18:01.17 | siggraph | s/gr/tr/ |
| 18:01.19 | IriX64 | didnt look just tried to run it. |
| 18:01.27 | IriX64 | whats it called? |
| 18:01.31 | siggraph | can you run it in a debugger? |
| 18:01.34 | IriX64 | just a sec ill find it. |
| 18:01.49 | IriX64 | no man its t90 architecture. |
| 18:01.56 | siggraph | and more importantly, is this the latest cvs or some source release? |
| 18:02.13 | IriX64 | something ive worked on. |
| 18:02.35 | IriX64 | from the source tarball 7.6.0 and up to 7.8.2 from sourceforge. |
| 18:03.04 | IriX64 | cant be a backtrace think why. |
| 18:03.30 | ValarQ | IriX64: "The cannon, in the form of the tank gun, has made the transition from smoothbore to rifled, and is moving back to smoothbore." |
| 18:03.35 | ValarQ | IriX64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoothbore |
| 18:03.43 | IriX64 | dont have a t90 debugger man, sorry :) |
| 18:04.07 | IriX64 | really valarq? |
| 18:04.17 | IriX64 | ill look that up right now. |
| 18:07.39 | ValarQ | IriX64: yeah, it seems as they use longer projectiles there is no need for rifled cannons |
| 18:08.06 | IriX64 | they cheat they use fins :) |
| 18:09.11 | IriX64 | like arrows, tell them to use the fins to impart a stability spin and minimize tumbling. |
| 18:10.20 | IriX64 | btw that v10.0.0 is simply what I call mine :) |
| 18:13.53 | IriX64 | this'll be a little while yet, I'm taking a smoke break, be back in a bit. |
| 18:41.45 | IriX64 | ftp.brlcad.org, Brl-Cad-10.0.0.bz2 if you're curious. |
| 18:41.55 | IriX64 | incoming of course. |
| 18:45.20 | IriX64 | I... touch things, you know, to relax, are any of you like that? |
| 18:54.20 | IriX64 | its there. :) |
| 19:19.06 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_metaball.c: |
| 19:19.06 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Drastically improved bounding sphere computation (better center and fit). |
| 19:19.07 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Fix for 'garbage' normals resulting in noisy images in some situations. |
| 19:19.07 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Obey the 'one-hit' flag in the shot routine. |
| 19:21.09 | ``Erik | irix64: do you have the 'file' program? |
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| 19:36.12 | TechNeck | hi guys |
| 19:36.39 | TechNeck | just checking out brlcad for the first time |
| 19:36.43 | TechNeck | pretty useful? |
| 19:44.50 | ``Erik | some people seem to think so, it's been in use for about 25 yrs now... |
| 19:50.12 | siggraph | TechNeck: I like it |
| 19:50.14 | siggraph | :) |
| 19:52.35 | TechNeck | I use freebsd and some different flavors of linux at home |
| 19:52.47 | ``Erik | /usr/ports/cad/brlcad |
| 19:52.48 | TechNeck | work is all windows based |
| 19:53.08 | TechNeck | I'm at work and grabbed the sourceforge windows version |
| 19:53.16 | TechNeck | it's a dll :/ |
| 19:53.58 | TechNeck | Is brlcad just the library? |
| 19:54.01 | ``Erik | no |
| 19:54.06 | ``Erik | I think you need the _devel file? |
| 19:54.22 | ``Erik | or |
| 19:54.23 | ``Erik | no |
| 19:54.27 | ``Erik | you probably need the 7.8.0 one |
| 19:54.32 | TechNeck | is it a working application in itself? or do I have to make one with it? |
| 19:54.39 | ``Erik | it looks a lot meatier |
| 19:54.48 | ``Erik | it's a collection of 400 and something executables |
| 19:54.52 | TechNeck | ok |
| 19:54.56 | ``Erik | 'mged' being the one most people want to use first |
| 19:55.35 | TechNeck | It doesn't replace AutoCAD right out of the box, though, does it? |
| 19:55.51 | ``Erik | it's goal is a little different |
| 19:56.34 | ``Erik | autocad is very much a draft generation system, not a 3d engineering/analysis tool? |
| 19:56.34 | TechNeck | I'm saying, though, we could develop and AutoCAD replacement with this, yea? |
| 19:56.40 | TechNeck | I see it has conversion tools |
| 19:57.07 | ``Erik | well, yeah, it copes with dxf, the draft features are just a bit weaker, I guess, and the UI is a bit different |
| 19:57.44 | ``Erik | <-- not a modeller, is a coder, so not very familiar iwth autocad or the other halfdozen cad type activitites |
| 20:09.35 | ``Erik | sweet |
| 20:11.06 | archivist | I never liked Orcad, I used PCAD |
| 20:14.31 | archivist | My old DOS version of PCAD (cant afford to upgrade) still has stuff that makes me continue using it |
| 20:15.17 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/conv/off/Makefile.am: LIBRT moved to RT |
| 20:18.25 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/remrt/Makefile.am: rtsrv needs libfb |
| 20:22.24 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/liboptical/Makefile.am: sh_billboard.c requires libfb for fb_common_name_size, so add it to the deplibs |
| 20:26.25 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/remrt/Makefile.am: since liboptical now deplibs libfb, we can remove libfb from the explicit ldadd |
| 20:51.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * 10brlcad/src/librt/g_metaball.c: |
| 20:51.42 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Shoot all the way through if ap->a_onehit is not true (opposed to through the first in/out pair). |
| 20:51.43 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Apply the 'stepping' optimization to walking after the first hit. |
| 20:51.43 | CIA-9 | BRL-CAD: Minor cleanup for -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic. |
| 20:55.23 | ``Erik | lots and lots of beer |
| 20:55.24 | ``Erik | :D |
| 21:09.47 | TechNeck | hmm |
| 21:09.55 | TechNeck | looks cool |
| 21:10.07 | TechNeck | crashes when I go to make an extrusion though |
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| 21:28.55 | matt_ezeki_230 | hi guys... |
| 21:37.46 | matt_ezeki_230 | i've a problem with clone function. Let me provide an example: |
| 21:38.07 | matt_ezeki_230 | 1) in a.s rcc 0 0 -2 0 0 4 1 |
| 21:38.22 | matt_ezeki_230 | 2) in b.s rcc 0 -2 0 0 4 0 1 |
| 21:38.43 | matt_ezeki_230 | 3) r ab.r u a.s u b.s |
| 21:39.12 | matt_ezeki_230 | 4) clone ab.r |
| 21:40.00 | Twingy | that's good I guess |
| 21:41.35 | matt_ezeki_230 | db_read(test.g) ERROR offset=424, count=10240, dbi_eof=504 |
| 21:42.20 | matt_ezeki_230 | ERROR: clone internal error, cannot find ab.r for editing |
| 21:42.46 | matt_ezeki_230 | Database read error, aborting |
| 21:43.03 | matt_ezeki_230 | . |
| 21:43.03 | matt_ezeki_230 | . |
| 21:43.09 | matt_ezeki_230 | any ideas? |
| 21:46.11 | Twingy | try converting it |
| 21:46.29 | Twingy | there's a utility to bring it up to the "latest" ver |
| 21:47.52 | matt_ezeki_230 | should I convert command clone? |
| 21:48.10 | Twingy | "command clone" ? |
| 21:49.40 | matt_ezeki_230 | you said "try converting it"... what is "it"? |
| 21:51.01 | Twingy | your file |
| 21:54.59 | matt_ezeki_230 | sorry, I'm a newbie in brlcad but... which conversion should I do to my file (from *.g to...)? which utility should I use to do this and why should a *.g file be a problem? |
| 21:55.38 | Twingy | check the converters directory |
| 22:07.09 | matt_ezeki_230 | which is the converters directory? /usr/brlcad/.....? |
| 22:11.56 | Twingy | then get installed in bin |
| 22:12.02 | Twingy | the src/conv has the list |
| 22:12.14 | Twingy | I'll be back later, I got some stuff going on here |