| 00:01.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03lbutler * 10brlcad/src/rt/main.c: |
| 00:01.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: When complaining about not getting an MGED database, we now accurately report |
| 00:01.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: the name of the program (from argv[0]) being run, rather than pretending that |
| 00:01.37 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: all rtuif programs are called "rt". |
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| 00:04.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/libfb/ (fb_obj.c fbserv_obj.c if_4d.c tcl.c): |
| 00:04.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: revert the libbu memory management changes to libpkg just to be safe. if |
| 00:04.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: someone happens to call bu_semaphore_acquire on a BU_SEM_SYSCALL semaphore, the |
| 00:04.35 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: call will block since libbu utilizes that semaphore internally (and it's |
| 00:04.36 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: expected that callers know this..). |
| 00:07.58 | cad665 | Hello, I am new to BRL-CAD. Just got current from CVS and noticed the visual studio projects |
| 00:08.37 | cad665 | I have made a few tweeks to get it most of the executables, but not all working. What is the status of this? |
| 00:09.53 | cad665 | I was looking to use mged, but it is looking for 'gui' |
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| 00:28.18 | brlcad | cad665: there are some manual installation steps |
| 00:28.31 | brlcad | i'm not sure if they've been well documented yet |
| 00:28.47 | brlcad | but basically you have to install the tclscripts and the binaries that you build before mged will work |
| 00:29.28 | brlcad | mged uses a vast quantity of external plugin-style resources that it tries to find, and without doing this, you get the gui error or a few others |
| 00:38.53 | cad665 | thanks |
| 00:39.17 | cad665 | I noticed that I needed to move iwidgets.tcl. I will look around the makefiles |
| 00:39.39 | brlcad | most of the src/tclscripts directory as well |
| 00:39.54 | brlcad | that's the big one, that's where 'gui' lives for example |
| 00:40.13 | brlcad | the status is that it's about ready to ship out now |
| 00:40.27 | brlcad | but the automatic-build under windows certainly needs more work |
| 00:40.46 | brlcad | there has just not been too many windows developers interested in getting involved to date yet |
| 00:44.27 | cad665 | I have done some porting from *NIX to Win32, but it can be quite an undertaking to port an application this size |
| 00:44.52 | brlcad | the porting is pretty much done |
| 00:44.58 | brlcad | it's mostly polish that's remaining |
| 00:45.08 | brlcad | so that you click, click and have an install, etc |
| 00:45.14 | cad665 | I may be able to help |
| 00:45.33 | brlcad | the nix side is pretty turnkey at this point |
| 00:46.01 | cad665 | I have been working on the FEA application CalculiX, doing that port and built an installer and packaged the HTML help into CHM, etc... |
| 00:46.05 | brlcad | though of few of the packaging systems are still coming on-line, like debian |
| 00:49.25 | brlcad | at this point, there are three approaches to getting a windows build -- there are two studio projects (one vc6, another vc7) or building through mingw/cygwin |
| 00:49.46 | brlcad | the vc6 builds all of the libraries and does an even better automated job than the vc7 project |
| 00:50.08 | brlcad | the vc7 project, though, builds about a 1/4th of the most useful binaries as well |
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| 00:53.32 | Twingy | anyone interesting in laying hardwood? :) |
| 00:53.36 | Twingy | *ed |
| 00:54.02 | brlcad | you probably wouldn't appreciate my technique |
| 00:54.07 | Twingy | heh |
| 00:54.13 | brlcad | involves a nail gun and some glue |
| 00:54.22 | Twingy | oh |
| 00:54.24 | Maloeran | Ahah |
| 00:54.26 | Twingy | I've been using scotch tape, hrm |
| 00:54.45 | brlcad | doesn't involve wood |
| 00:54.56 | Twingy | ah, so you found a loop hole |
| 00:55.18 | Twingy | anti time space wood nailer doodad |
| 00:55.38 | Maloeran | Sure I'm interested to help, you pay the transportation, right? :) |
| 00:55.56 | Twingy | I'll pay you in an mp3 player built by the elbonians |
| 00:56.04 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:56.16 | brlcad | he'll give you his ipod.. :) |
| 00:56.18 | Twingy | ...it's a good deal |
| 00:56.45 | brlcad | that poor poor defenseless ipod.. |
| 00:57.56 | Twingy | it's not engineered to my standards |
| 00:58.34 | Twingy | I should be able to drive my car over it without so much as a scratch |
| 00:58.51 | Twingy | military grade man, military grade |
| 01:01.05 | Maloeran | 642km from Montreal to Baltimore, 8-12 days of bicycle, selling an ipod for food on the way won't be enough |
| 01:01.53 | Twingy | I doubt somone would give you food for it :) |
| 01:02.36 | Maloeran | :) Will you be completing the basement next, or you already passed that way? |
| 01:02.56 | Twingy | I will probably take a break after the hardwood floor |
| 01:03.02 | Twingy | rest for a month |
| 01:03.13 | Maloeran | Right, sounds reasonable |
| 01:03.16 | brlcad | that would be a sweet bicycle ride |
| 01:03.32 | Twingy | 6 weeks on the ceramic floor, 4 weeks on finishing the office, and 2 weeks on the hardwood floor drains you |
| 01:04.29 | Twingy | another 4.5 years and I can sell this place and get my dilbert house constructed |
| 01:06.32 | Maloeran | That's ambitious, brlcad :), I rarely find people willing to join to travel a fraction of that on bicycle... or were you being sarcastic? |
| 01:08.43 | brlcad | no, being serious |
| 01:09.11 | Maloeran | Very nice, I wouldn't mind joining |
| 01:09.20 | brlcad | it would take about two-three weeks I imagine |
| 01:09.39 | brlcad | i believe lance does it every year in two with a group |
| 01:10.29 | Maloeran | It depends if you actually want to stop by some places for a day or two |
| 01:10.43 | brlcad | true |
| 01:10.53 | brlcad | and if there are any breakdowns or injuries |
| 01:11.43 | brlcad | would be easy to rip a muscle without good distance training |
| 01:12.26 | brlcad | at least with a decent pace, i like to keep at least a 20mph pace if not better on flat |
| 01:12.47 | Maloeran | I do 35km daily to go to work at the moment, I wouldn't mind personally |
| 01:12.56 | Maloeran | Right. |
| 01:13.02 | brlcad | ~convert 20 miles to kilometers |
| 01:13.16 | brlcad | sounds about right, do that within an hour |
| 01:13.53 | brlcad | is that 70 a day, or 35 total? |
| 01:14.02 | Maloeran | It's a bit slower due to traffic, but yes. 35km total |
| 01:14.06 | brlcad | 70 is a pretty long commute |
| 01:14.07 | brlcad | ahh, k |
| 01:16.06 | brlcad | i used to have a 50 km route to work and back a couple years ago when I was starting |
| 01:16.09 | Twingy | I think erik makes that many trips to the fridge in a week |
| 01:16.13 | brlcad | that was hard to do more than 2 days back to back |
| 01:16.40 | brlcad | course mostly because I had a horrible seat at the time.. geared for racing not distance |
| 01:16.42 | Maloeran | So 100km total daily? |
| 01:16.55 | brlcad | no 50 total |
| 01:16.59 | brlcad | 25 each way |
| 01:17.26 | Twingy | mal, how far are you from boston? |
| 01:18.07 | Maloeran | 890km |
| 01:18.16 | brlcad | since then i've rode 160km across 2 days easily enough |
| 01:18.17 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:18.21 | Maloeran | 50km daily is fine, but you may arrive rather tired at work |
| 01:18.22 | brlcad | that would be one hard trip |
| 01:18.27 | Twingy | you're closer to baltimore than boston? |
| 01:18.47 | Maloeran | Or so some air traverl website says, yes |
| 01:18.53 | Maloeran | Ack, wrong city |
| 01:18.53 | Twingy | erm |
| 01:19.00 | Maloeran | 356km to Boston |
| 01:19.05 | Maloeran | I thought it didn't make sense too |
| 01:19.06 | Twingy | can you bike that? |
| 01:19.12 | brlcad | yeah, it was fine.. actually wasn't too tired, just my joints couldn't take more than two days before I had to let them recover |
| 01:19.21 | Maloeran | Well sure, give me ~5 days |
| 01:19.34 | brlcad | heh, that's about 200 miles |
| 01:19.35 | Twingy | if you can do it, we could hook you up with room :) |
| 01:19.37 | brlcad | you could do that in two days |
| 01:19.46 | brlcad | depending on the terrain.. :) |
| 01:20.20 | Maloeran | Depending if I don't get completely lost, and so on :), 5 days is playing it safe |
| 01:20.28 | Twingy | 3 days :D |
| 01:20.40 | Twingy | don't you have a gps? :) |
| 01:21.07 | brlcad | Twingy: what's his name is interested too, he's looking into it I think |
| 01:21.09 | Maloeran | I could get that... :) |
| 01:21.15 | Twingy | david? |
| 01:21.20 | brlcad | yeah |
| 01:21.27 | Twingy | well, more the merry :) |
| 01:21.36 | brlcad | not necesarily to bunk, but at least in going |
| 01:21.46 | Twingy | ah |
| 01:21.51 | brlcad | dunno what his plans are |
| 01:21.57 | brlcad | too far out for him |
| 01:22.06 | brlcad | mm.. could bike to boston.. |
| 01:22.15 | brlcad | then i wouldn't get any coding done |
| 01:22.27 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:22.39 | brlcad | can just imagine having a suitcase strapped to my back |
| 01:22.48 | Twingy | and what if the airplane crashes? HUH?! :) |
| 01:22.56 | Twingy | nah |
| 01:23.00 | Twingy | buy your cloths at siggraph |
| 01:23.16 | Twingy | show up to the siggraph mechandise booth all sweaty |
| 01:23.18 | Maloeran | Arriving at Siggraph after a 3 days ride on bicycle with a tent and portable computers strapped on the back sure would be elegant |
| 01:23.19 | Twingy | buy a change of cloths |
| 01:23.33 | Twingy | we can provide computing power :) |
| 01:23.39 | Twingy | you could send encrypted files :) |
| 01:23.41 | brlcad | and then ride home with 50 lbs of proceedings on your back :) |
| 01:23.51 | Twingy | proceedings can be mailed |
| 01:23.59 | brlcad | where's the fun in that |
| 01:24.15 | Twingy | riding to siggraph on a bike isnt fun enough? |
| 01:24.24 | Twingy | you're almost as nuts as I am |
| 01:24.26 | Maloeran | I'm seriously considering it :) |
| 01:24.32 | Maloeran | I'll see when the time comes |
| 01:24.44 | Twingy | talk about die hard siggraph fan :) |
| 01:25.06 | Twingy | "Hey Gordon, just rode my bike here from boston" |
| 01:25.35 | Twingy | I'd prefer hiking over biking though |
| 01:25.39 | Twingy | I can hike 20 miles a day |
| 01:25.52 | Twingy | would take a good 2 weeks advance start |
| 01:25.54 | Maloeran | And you can ride 5 times that easily |
| 01:26.06 | brlcad | 375mi from aberdeen to boston |
| 01:26.06 | Twingy | I'm not a big fan of bike riding |
| 01:26.21 | Twingy | I prefer to not use mechanical devices |
| 01:26.31 | Maloeran | Hiking is slow, I tend to run whenever outside as walking is just too slow |
| 01:26.43 | Twingy | I cannot run more than 8 miles at a span |
| 01:26.53 | Maloeran | Good enough |
| 01:26.56 | Twingy | speaking of which |
| 01:27.00 | Twingy | soon as hardwood floor is done |
| 01:27.06 | Twingy | I'll start my 50 days of running again |
| 01:27.18 | Twingy | by the end of that I'll be able to run 8 miles again |
| 01:27.37 | brlcad | the appalachian trail would get you there |
| 01:27.39 | Twingy | hiking from edgewood to aberdeen would take me like 6 hours |
| 01:27.59 | brlcad | you might want to get started in june |
| 01:28.03 | Twingy | hehe |
| 01:28.14 | Twingy | if I had the leave available |
| 01:28.18 | Twingy | I would do it in a heart beat |
| 01:28.18 | Maloeran | Did you try riding a bicycle lately, Twingy? Really, it's much more pleasant |
| 01:28.30 | Twingy | I rode my bike all the time before I moved to maryland |
| 01:28.40 | Maloeran | Ah nice. |
| 01:28.40 | Twingy | little 15 mile rides |
| 01:28.49 | Twingy | I prefer running though |
| 02:34.19 | tegtmeye | arggg...papers suck. going home:( |
| 02:36.33 | ``Erik | heh |
| 02:36.36 | ``Erik | it's due friday? |
| 02:44.40 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/m4/cache.m4: if the compiler or preprocessor flags we're using for the current configure are different from when we last cached values, invalidate the configure cache. |
| 03:13.32 | ``Erik | that's not smog, that's smug! |
| 04:03.23 | Twingy | http://js.cx/~justin/images/livingroom/floor_08.jpg |
| 05:25.39 | Twingy | damn, tsp is rockin |
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| 05:59.21 | pra5ad | go go i-fund |
| 05:59.46 | Twingy | the lack of g-code references on google is profund |
| 05:59.51 | Twingy | *profound |
| 06:02.33 | Twingy | niehgbors house is going for $342,900 |
| 06:03.35 | Twingy | my house type just sold for $325k |
| 06:03.46 | Twingy | that's $30k more than I paid |
| 06:11.15 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/src/other/URToolkit/tools/ (rlecomp.c rleinterp.c): quell icc warnings |
| 06:15.41 | brlcad | i had/have a copy of the g-code specification around here somewhere |
| 06:22.43 | Twingy | with parameters? |
| 06:22.53 | Twingy | finding without parameters is easy |
| 06:23.07 | Twingy | with parameter grammar is not so easy |
| 06:42.08 | brlcad | beats me |
| 06:42.21 | brlcad | it just was some official specification |
| 06:44.21 | brlcad | it's an ISO standard (like STEP..) |
| 06:48.56 | brlcad | mm.. snippet example on wikipedia |
| 06:48.57 | brlcad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNC |
| 06:51.56 | brlcad | ISO 4342 |
| 07:03.38 | brlcad | is the overview, apparently ISO 6983 is the actual gcode codes |
| 07:03.51 | brlcad | even better example: http://www.dsic.upv.es/~jsilva/cnc/index.htm |
| 07:29.43 | CIA-5 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * 10brlcad/include/raytrace.h: peculiar ifdef WIN32 commenting on three ifree functions for dsp, ebm, and vol primitives, enable them but recommend nobody rely on them till it gets sorted out |
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| 13:55.14 | cad328 | hi |
| 13:56.06 | cad328 | I got some initial install issues.. can anyone help? |
| 13:57.51 | cad328 | I untarred the binary for linux in /usr/brlcad.. performed export BRLCAD_ROOT="/usr/brlcad/" and executed mged |
| 13:58.49 | cad328 | but now when I try to open anything I get: No database has been opened!!! |
| 14:10.32 | brlcad | cad328: what's your exact command line for invoking mged? |
| 14:14.46 | brlcad | for starters, you should not need to set BRLCAD_ROOT |
| 14:15.08 | brlcad | that is only needed if you relocate the binaries to a location that they weren't compiled for |
| 14:16.00 | brlcad | the No database has been opened message should only be given if you start mged without a .g and try to perform modeling commands |
| 14:22.23 | cad328 | Thanks.. tried that out.. and now it starts okay... another little issue |
| 14:22.39 | cad328 | I try to import a .IGES file with iges-g |
| 14:22.57 | cad328 | iges-g -t -N gallery -o gallery-iges.g ../galeria.IGS |
| 14:23.02 | cad328 | and I get a segfault |
| 14:23.28 | cad328 | Number of entities checked: 1670Summary of entity types found: 8 Circular Arc (type 100) 230 Composite Curve (type 102) 516 Line (type 110) 2 Surface of Revolution (type 120) 24 Transformation Matrix (3X4) (type 124) 520 Rational B-Spline Curve (type 126) 112 Rational B-Spline Surface (type 128) 115 Curve on a Parametric Surface (type 142) 114 Trimmed Parametric Surface (type 144) 12 S |
| 14:24.03 | cad328 | I do apologise if I seem rather newbie... it's because I am.. |
| 14:30.03 | ``Erik | is galeria.IGS something that can be shared? |
| 15:16.18 | brlcad | apparently not |
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| 15:49.25 | alrbn | Galeria.iges is something that can be shared |
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| 15:52.50 | alrbn | Hi.. hope this client works better |
| 15:56.48 | ``Erik | okie, unless brlcad sees an issue with your call line, it might be useful for you to go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad and submit a bug report, including info on how you got the source, the kind of machine, the command you ran, attach the file, ... and mebbe crank up gdb and try to get a backtrace :) |
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